Is it still true that the Exynos modem doesn't support CDMA networks? Every international s10 model I find shows GSM only in the spec sheet.
Low_Key_Slaps said:
Is it still true that the Exynos modem doesn't support CDMA networks? Every international s10 model I find shows GSM only in the spec sheet.
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Nope.
That's the reason why Samsung still uses Snapdragon cause the exynos they make doesn't support cdma
Actually, I think the newest Exynos chips do support CDMA at least in part. I'm not sure it's fully supported but the weird relationship between Qualcomm and Samsung probably has something to do with it. Samsung actually makes the chips for Qualcomm so they sort of feed each other.
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Can these roms be used for some Us variants. The specs seem the same.
How can you say the specs seem to be the same when they are COMPLETELY different? The only thing the same is the ram & LTE but even the LTE bands are all different... The US variant only has Dual Core Snapdragon when the I9305 is a Quad CORE Exynos
Different different and Yehh ummm DIFFerent
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How can you say the specs seem to be the same when they are COMPLETELY different? The only thing the same is the ram & LTE but even the LTE bands are all different... The US variant only has Dual Core Snapdragon when the I9305 is a Quad CORE Exynos
Different different and Yehh ummm DIFFerent
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There are US variants of the M3, especially for T-Mobile. Calm down.
So your saying there are I9305 being sold in the US on Plans? I am sure US t-mobile has the 1900 band but thats not LTE, I wouldnt think they would sell these on a contract knowing the LTE wont work.. Unless there is a whole new version with Exynos Quad/2GB ram and runs on the american LTE? Which one is this?
I have heard of someone in america using the I9305 but it was the European/Australian Variant. And there is the I9305T which is Telstra Australia Variant and another European company has there own model the I9305N... But yeh I never heard of America having there own Model of the I9305.
Edit: when the op mentioned At&T it triggered the snapdragon thought lol which i know are pretty different, and it is why i said they were, And I was calm by the way I seem to use caps when i want to emphasize words
I noticed on the specifications list that the international LTE version has some of the same LTE bands as the Verizon LTE version. Would the international LTE version of the S2 be at all usable on Verizon's network?
Which variant? I don't remember seeing any international variants with LTE B13 support. In any case, there is no CDMA in the international variants and I strongly doubt you could use them on Verizon.
Is B13 the one Verizon uses in the U.S.? I was just looking at the one on amazon listed as "international LTE". I didn't realize there were multiple versions of that. I also got the impression from reading around here that Verizon's LTE was more or less the same as everyone else's because CDMA just isn't capable of the modern band width requirements. That was a long time ago though and I may have misunderstood.
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Is B13 the one Verizon uses in the U.S.? I was just looking at the one on amazon listed as "international LTE". I didn't realize there were multiple versions of that. I also got the impression from reading around here that Verizon's LTE was more or less the same as everyone else's because CDMA just isn't capable of the modern band width requirements. That was a long time ago though and I may have misunderstood.
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Yes, B13 is Verizon's main LTE band in the US.
You say main as if there are others. Does Verizon use other bands too? At all?
In certain areas Verizon also supplements coverage with bands 2 and/or 4. Eventually they are also expected to deploy on band 5.
Thank-you for repeatedly taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
I live around the Baltimore area so I imagine they might have need to supplement with the additional bands around here. The international Tab S2 being sold on Amazon does support bands 2, 4, and 5. No 13 though. So assuming Verizon has deployed band(s) 2, 4, or 5 in the area the question remains: Would the international Tab S2 receive LTE service? Someone must have tried it by now.
Have any other "international" samsung devices been able to receive Verizon service in the US?
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Thank-you for repeatedly taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
I live around the Baltimore area so I imagine they might have need to supplement with the additional bands around here. The international Tab S2 being sold on Amazon does support bands 2, 4, and 5. No 13 though. So assuming Verizon has deployed band(s) 2, 4, or 5 in the area the question remains: Would the international Tab S2 receive LTE service? Someone must have tried it by now.
Have any other "international" samsung devices been able to receive Verizon service in the US?
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What you are trying to do is just a bad idea unfortunately. Even if you could activate it (which I doubt you could in the first place), the supplemental bands are high frequency bands and you may well run into situations where you won't have any coverage at all because you couldn't pick up band 13 (which is a low frequency band that penetrates into buildings much better than bands 2 or 4).
Why not just buy the Verizon model?
That is very helpful and insightful info. Thank-you.
For my purposes the tablet will be used mostly for entertainment purposes. I have a galaxy S4 (mdk bootloader) phone for serious communication needs. I was just thinking that there may be a performance advantage if I could swap the sim card from my S4 into the tablet and get internet (where available on bands 2, 4, 5) directly from LTE rather then from the wifi hotspot on the S4. I figured it may not work all the time but if it did some of the time it would justify buying the device with capability, all else being equal.
I would absolutely buy the verizon model if it wasn't boot-loader locked. It sounds like noone has been able to hack a ssmsung/verizon device for the last few generations so I'm not holding my breath.
(The info you've been giving will also be handy when it comes time to replace my & wife's S4 phones which will probably be in the next year.)
Oh, ok, I see, your issue is with the bootloader. Yeah, that's a problem.
I am also using an S4 on a CDMA carrier (Sprint). Planning on getting a Nexus 5X soon. It's nice in that unlike Samsung and their plethora of variants of the same device for each country, there is just one Nexus model for all carriers in the US, and it's also unlocked right out of the box.
Just got my N950F/FD
Put my sim in and only connects on 4G
Used LTE discovery and it sees the LTE. But the icon on top does not turn to LTE.
Mobile settings also does not have option for LTE, only 4G/3G/2G
Went in to T-mobile today to have the sim card replaced with no success, still stays at 4G
Anyone have same problem or any suggestions?
Thanks!
Baseband Version: N950FXXU1AQHB
Build Number: NMF26X.N950FXXU1AQI3
Not sure where that model is from though if it's a import they typically only say 4g. That's lte in other countries. Best to look at network status and see if it says your connected to lte network.
criptix said:
Not sure where that model is from though if it's a import they typically only say 4g. That's lte in other countries. Best to look at network status and see if it says your connected to lte network.
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Indeed, my Samsung Tablet S2 LTE international model shows only 4G on the USA T Mobile network, but its actually connected to LTE. For some reason in USA they use LTE symbol whereas the rest of the world notes it at 4G.
Im assuming like most other things, its all about making things sound bigger and better LOL
Thanks so much for the answers! I Will have to do a speed test... connection sucks at my apartment! LoL
Look in settings> about>SIM status. That will tell you. See mine for example.
T-Mobile 'Gigabit' LTE support?
Does anyone know if this specific Note 8 model, SM-N950F, supports the new 'gigabit' LTE promoted by T-Mobile and Qualcomm? Supposedly, only the S8 family, including Note 8, and the latest LG flagship support this gigabyte spectrum; but since the N950F has the international chipset by Samsung (Exynos?) compared to the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset in the other models, will this still work? If anyone can verify
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Does anyone know if this specific Note 8 model, SM-N950F, supports the new 'gigabit' LTE promoted by T-Mobile and Qualcomm? Supposedly, only the S8 family, including Note 8, and the latest LG flagship support this gigabyte spectrum; but since the N950F has the international chipset by Samsung (Exynos?) compared to the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset in the other models, will this still work? If anyone can verify
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did you figure it out. I am planning to get the same phone and want to use it with t-mobile
agr.prashant said:
did you figure it out. I am planning to get the same phone and want to use it with t-mobile
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Turns out the international model runs on Samsung’s own Exynos processor, NOT the Qualcomm Snapdragon which does support gigabyte LTE, at least in the States on the T Mobile network for now
after watching Pocket Now's video on the Note 9's LTE speed, it got me excited. Excited til I realized their unit is a snapdragon 845 and the Exynos will have its own benchmarks.
Anyone have any idea how the Exynos version compares?
didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
Mine is an exynos version on 3uk and I recorded 73.2 down and 42.2 up. Upload speed is 4 times my home broadband speed
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i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version.
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It's not.
My Exynos Note9 result
entropism said:
It's not.
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you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
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My Exynos Note9 result
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what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
Updated test
For a comparison, here's my Note8 Exynos model result.
Tested in the same location last week before my Note9 arrived.
The test's were done at almost the same time last week and today
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didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
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the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
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the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
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i'm about 5 miles from there and getting 51mbps on an unlocked version with ATT as the carrier.
this is seriously pissing me off.
i'm going to exchange my unlocked one for an ATT branded one.
screw unlocked, carrier branded it is going forward
Unlocked US version on AT&T, pretty poor signal strength here at work, but still phenomenal speeds considering.
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you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
LTE/modem speeds are hard to test as the actual speed vary mostly from the network towers, how many connected users yours have, how much they download, the signal strength and so on.
For a real tests a lab is needed and from there are the stated measurements from the manufacturers. The exynos model is good.
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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
Exynos ee Coventry
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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
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Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
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Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
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CSC changes automatically depending on what SIM you have installed.
my question is:
what are the substantial differences between the exynos version and the snapdragon version?
I am italian, and I don't want the exynos model because battery life and reception are worse than the snapdragon version.
the cheapest way to have a snap version is to take a Chinese one, sm-g9730, and I'd like to know from those who understand more than me what the differences would be compared to a European s10.
thank you so much
This should help get you started;
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&s=compare&ids=14833.14844.14890
Hi, thanks for the reply. Besides the hardware differences, are there any relevant software differences?
For example, the galaxy store, or the store of themes or other software limitation.
The main one I can think of is Samsung Pay.
There are varied experiences from across the community. Some people able to get it to work in regions not intended for their device whereas others are not.
Galaxy Store and Themes will work irregardless of where you are located. Rooted or not.
As for choosing the Snapdragon over Exynos, it appears you actually lose a network band in Italy (Band 32 - 1500). See attached image.
Band 32 is a downlink which means you're losing faster download capabilities by choosing Snapdragon.
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The main one I can think of is Samsung Pay.
There are varied experiences from across the community. Some people able to get it to work in regions not intended for their device whereas others are not.
Galaxy Store and Themes will work irregardless of where you are located. Rooted or not.
As for choosing the Snapdragon over Exynos, it appears you actually lose a network band in Italy (Band 32 - 1500). See attached image.
Band 32 is a downlink which means you're losing faster download capabilities by choosing Snapdragon.
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is this band missing on both the Chinese and US versions?
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is this band missing on both the Chinese and US versions?
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Yes. Only available on the Exynos. If your Carrier doesn't utilize this band, you're not losing anything.
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Yes. Only available on the Exynos. If your Carrier doesn't utilize this band, you're not losing anything.
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my carrier,vodafone, uses this band for "4.5G", but honestly 4G + is already quite fast and 4.5G where I live I've never seen it (my current phone supports it)
axorazor said:
my carrier,vodafone, uses this band for "4.5G", but honestly 4G + is already quite fast and 4.5G where I live I've never seen it (my current phone supports it)
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Fair enough. You'll now need to decide if you can live with or without the potential benefits of faster downloads.
I have one last doubt. some users of an Italian forum have questioned whether the g9730 is able to correctly aggregate band 20 to hook up the 4g plus.
someone in possession of a samsung s10 / s10 + / s10e HK / Chinese could test if the phone aggregates band 20 when it is in 4g +?
there is an app in the play store, network cell info lite, when you open it in the first panel there is an indication of the aggregate bands.
thank you