Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
spears93 said:
Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
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I'm on the same boat (I mean, a similar situation because I'm not in the UK I'm in El Salvador). When I received my phone I started looking for the new UI, but I noticed that I had a very old android build version (I was in September security patch, I received my phone February 11) I started reading about and found out that N960U is the branded version of the note in the US. I wanted to update by Odin to one UI but I was afraid to get my phone carrier locked so after reading a lot more, I found that you can update using the right firmware for the phone (N960U) you don't lose carrier unlock and in my case after installing updates, I don't even have any bloatware.
Now, after this context history, I can tell you that the only thing that will affects is any "radio band enhance" or "carrier feature" and that's because you will not be able to install any UK carrier software to that version because N960U and N960F are different hardware, not just software.
Maybe there is another road block that is about updates, I'm on 9.0 but with January security patch, I have not received any new update. To be hones I'm not sure if there is a new one, so I need to wait to confirm that OTA updates are working for me, if not I will take the time to update by ODIN again haha so that's not something that will drive me crazy, and also related to this I think that N960U android versions are coming faster than I thought, some of my friends with N9600 are still stuck on 8.1
If you want to upgrade go to the following thread, there you will have enough information to update.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/guide-upgrade-oreo-to-pie-one-ui-t3888711
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
spears93 said:
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
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What's the software version that you currently running?
kevindevonwilliams said:
What's the software version that you currently running?
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8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
spears93 said:
8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
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Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
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How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version ?
spears93 said:
How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version
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Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
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So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
spears93 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
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Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
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Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
spears93 said:
Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
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Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
kevindevonwilliams said:
Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
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When I did the S8+ I had to go through a pretty big list to find the BTU firmware so assumed I'd have to do the same for the N9
I might give it a go if I get a chance this week
Seeing as you have the US variant of the Note 9. You may have issues receieving connecting to certain networks outside the US. As most US Networks use a different LTE band from the EU/UK
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http://www.theandroidsoul.com/andro...dule-samsung-htc-sony-motorola-manufacturers/
Google announced the Android 5.0 Lollipop a couple of days back and we’re already hearing news from various Android manufacturer partners for their Android 5.0 Lollipop update schedule. Major companies like HTC and Motorola announced their update plans right after a few hours of Google’s announcement, while Sony took a day to announce its update plans.
Just to be clear, the source article states that Samsung has NOT announced any plans to update to Lollipop, and the article goes on to speculate what those dates might be "based on past update cycles". So any of the dates are nothing more than pure guesses anyway. And the "date" given for the S4 Active would be a guess for the non-branded version supplied directly by Samsung. Anything that might or might not come for an AT&T version would come many months later, if at all. Just to be clear. Personally, while it would be fantastic to get Lollipop, I'm not holding my breath...
^_^
didn't get my kitkat update yet and you guys are talking about lolipop .... how sad am i !?
same here no update still on 4.2
I don't know about ota update, but people use official kitkat around 6 months. Install update via odin and job is done.
MiZoSpaDe said:
didn't get my kitkat update yet and you guys are talking about lolipop .... how sad am i !?
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You're just gonna skip directly to lollipop. No trouble.
You can install the kitkat update from any country it will work I did it as I know that my country will be listed
How to upgrade
Yeah! Can you tell us how you upgrade? Cause I cant upgrade to KK yet, and Lolipop i almot here?...
You should download the firmware from sammobile and it will explain you how to do it
5.0.1 come
It came.. NEE
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It came.. NEE
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Wait---you received "Lollipop"? If so, care to share some links?
Nevermind----It looks like a slim chance. I'll be sticking with my trusty Optimus pro for now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-i9295-5-0-1-android-lollipop-update-t3044134
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It came.. NEE
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Isn't that the Finland release for the international model, i9295 ?
mahferer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-i9295-5-0-1-android-lollipop-update-t3044134
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Yeah and if you actually read that, that release is for the i9295, not the i537. Don't confuse people
Is here only for i537?
Don't confuse your own..
mahferer said:
Is here only for i537?
Don't confuse your own..
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Lollipop has been available for the international model (i9295) for months, it's called Cyanogenmod 12. The only people in this forum unable to use lollipop are those with the U.S. model (i537). Along with the fact that the title of that thread you linked to has the actual model number in its title (and the firmware build number does too), I'm not entirely sure what rebuttal you just failed to articulate, but I'd wager it's inaccurate.
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Lollipop has been available for the international model (i9295) for months, it's called Cyanogenmod 12. The only people in this forum unable to use lollipop are those with the U.S. model (i537). Along with the fact that the title of that thread you linked to has the actual model number in its title (and the firmware build number does too), I'm not entirely sure what rebuttal you just failed to articulate, but I'd wager it's inaccurate.
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Firstly, this thread never implied its about the us variant i537, so his rebuttal was very accurate.
Secondly, The official Lollipop release only came a couple of days ago for the i9295, which is clearly what the OP of the thread begun talking about. Many people in this forum were unable to use lollipop as not many people count a port of Cyanogenmod stable enough to use daily.
Hope that helps you understand this thread better =)
any danger from manual update?
Hi friends. Sure most of you knows about the official 5.0.1 update for S4active which released for nordic countries on sammobile.
I am sill on 4.2.2 in Saudi arabia. My question is : should i update manually to kitkat firstly befor i install lollipop? And is there any dangers for updating my phone to this European update?
Attached my phone info and the update info
GS4 Active to Lollipop OTA
delphimon said:
Just to be clear, the source article states that Samsung has NOT announced any plans to update to Lollipop, and the article goes on to speculate what those dates might be "based on past update cycles". So any of the dates are nothing more than pure guesses anyway. And the "date" given for the S4 Active would be a guess for the non-branded version supplied directly by Samsung. Anything that might or might not come for an AT&T version would come many months later, if at all. Just to be clear. Personally, while it would be fantastic to get Lollipop, I'm not holding my breath...
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I have an unlocked AT&T GS4 Active that I'm currently using through MetroPCS. I still have an AT&T sim card. If I put the AT&T sim card back in the phone, would I have the ability to get the Android 5.0 update? I assume the answer is No as the AT&T sim is not provisioned, but would the sim allow me to get the update over the air? Do all carriers look at the make, model, build # and carrier of all devices to make sure the phone is compatible? I'm assuming if this doesn't work, rooting is the only way. Also, since I have service through MetroPCS, will they update to Lollipop once available or does my model number, SGH-i537, make them think I have AT&T ( and will not update software for the phone )?
Does having an unlocked phone prevent software updates specifically when the phone was made for one carrier only ( AT&T Active )?
Will MetroPCS automatically push software updates to all their customers or to just those that have an approved device from Metro?
David182 said:
I have an unlocked AT&T GS4 Active that I'm currently using through MetroPCS. I still have an AT&T sim card. If I put the AT&T sim card back in the phone, would I have the ability to get the Android 5.0 update? I assume the answer is No as the AT&T sim is not provisioned, but would the sim allow me to get the update over the air? Do all carriers look at the make, model, build # and carrier of all devices to make sure the phone is compatible? I'm assuming if this doesn't work, rooting is the only way. Also, since I have service through MetroPCS, will they update to Lollipop once available or does my model number, SGH-i537, make them think I have AT&T ( and will not update software for the phone )?
Does having an unlocked phone prevent software updates specifically when the phone was made for one carrier only ( AT&T Active )?
Will MetroPCS automatically push software updates to all their customers or to just those that have an approved device from Metro?
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You need to have an active AT&T sim card to get the update automatically. MetroPCS nor any other carrier will never provide updates to an AT&T phone. This is similar to asking if Honda will upgrade the engine of your Ford truck, it's never going to happen. Your only option is to update the phone manually using the guides provided in this forum.
Devo7v said:
You need to have an active AT&T sim card to get the update automatically. MetroPCS nor any other carrier will never provide updates to an AT&T phone. This is similar to asking if Honda will upgrade the engine of your Ford truck, it's never going to happen. Your only option is to update the phone manually using the guides provided in this forum.
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I just got off the chat with Samsung and they said the latest update for our device should be out in the next couple of days. Samsung is way slower than the carriers. I have an unlocked Note 8 running the ATT firmware. Will this update wipe my device or put me back to the unlocked carrier firmware?
Thanks for the info. I'm on the same boat. Hope they roll out soon!
It is crazy that we get it last. I mean, Samsung has to provide the update to the carriers, then the carriers tweak the update for their own devices, then they deploy it. Why aren't we getting it first?!
MarineSSGT0629 said:
It is crazy that we get it last. I mean, Samsung has to provide the update to the carriers, then the carriers tweak the update for their own devices, then they deploy it. Why aren't we getting it first?!
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I know I thought the same. I don't think I will be buying another unlocked carrier phone anymore. Not worth it. Right now I have the ATT firmware running on my Unlocked carrier version. So I still ended up debloating the OS.
What's best way to add carrier firmware? Sprint added there version of volte and unlocked version doesn't have it and I don't think it will get it
vincey2kr1 said:
What's best way to add carrier firmware? Sprint added there version of volte and unlocked version doesn't have it and I don't think it will get it
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You probably wont get it unless you flash the carrier firmware. Here is a link to the thread on how to: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884
Not sure if i should stick with the AT&T updates stock or go and flash the International U1 verison of it. Which is doing better performance wise and getting updates ? Which one is most likely to get pie first ? Thanks.
Raz12 said:
Not sure if i should stick with the AT&T updates stock or go and flash the International U1 verison of it. Which is doing better performance wise and getting updates ? Which one is most likely to get pie first ? Thanks.
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I was originally using the Oreo ota leaks but then decided to switch to the U1 firmware. You loose WiFi Calling and Volte but you also gain an unbranded boot screen, no bloat and also the built in spam protector. I've had better performance and battery life using the U1 firmware vs the leaked ota updates. But it'll probably be different for everyone.
No updates yet still on September patch. Not sure how fast or slow they are :/
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I was originally using the Oreo ota leaks but then decided to switch to the U1 firmware. You loose WiFi Calling and Volte but you also gain an unbranded boot screen, no bloat and also the built in spam protector. I've had better performance and battery life using the U1 firmware vs the leaked ota updates. But it'll probably be different for everyone.
No updates yet still on September patch. Not sure how fast or slow they are :/
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so you think i should stick with U1 ? not got to AT&T ? I mean you would think AT&T would get oreo since it's based on that one.
Raz12 said:
so you think i should stick with U1 ? not got to AT&T ? I mean you would think AT&T would get oreo since it's based on that one.
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I think you misunderstood me me my bad. The AT&T firmware is Oreo. The U2 firmware is Oreo too it just doesn't have the blostware and boot logo. But you loose wifi calling, volte and possible slow to a updates.
Before I installed the AT&T Oreo leak I was using the stock AT&T firmware and disabled all the bloat and got pretty much the same battery life as I do on the U1 firmware. I'm thinking of going back to the official mostly for the faster ota updates. But you could try it and see how it works for you. I hope I was able to help.
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I think you misunderstood me me my bad. The AT&T firmware is Oreo. The U2 firmware is Oreo too it just doesn't have the blostware and boot logo. But you loose wifi calling, volte and possible slow to a updates.
Before I installed the AT&T Oreo leak I was using the stock AT&T firmware and disabled all the bloat and got pretty much the same battery life as I do on the U1 firmware. I'm thinking of going back to the official mostly for the faster ota updates. But you could try it and see how it works for you. I hope I was able to help.
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thanks bro it did help. i'm prolly going to go back to AT&T instead since the otas seem to be faster and i think pie is coming to at&t first right ? and how did you know what to delete with the bloatware ?
I would advise that you always install the OS updates via OTA. That way you will always get the latest OS update for your device. I wouldn't recommend installing the OS that is release for a different model of your device. As there is a chance that you could brick it.
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thanks bro it did help. i'm prolly going to go back to AT&T instead since the otas seem to be faster and i think pie is coming to at&t first right ? and how did you know what to delete with the bloatware ?
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I use a thing called Sabs that includes a built in package disabler. It takes a little setting up which you can find guides on. But it's worth it.
iceepyon said:
I would advise that you always install the OS updates via OTA. That way you will always get the latest OS update for your device. I wouldn't recommend installing the OS that is release for a different model of your device. As there is a chance that you could brick it.
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Gotcha well yeah imma prolly go back
The_Keeper86 said:
I use a thing called Sabs that includes a built in package disabler. It takes a little setting up which you can find guides on. But it's worth it.
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Thank you! Will be going back tomorrow. I can Odin back to any firmware right?
So I bought an N960U and I absolutely love it but it's never gotten an update since I bought it in September so I'm curious as to why it hasn't, what firmware I am, what can I update to and will I lose Samsung pay at all?
I've attached some photos of the software version and such.
N4Solomon said:
So I bought an N960U and I absolutely love it but it's never gotten an update since I bought it in September so I'm curious as to why it hasn't, what firmware I am, what can I update to and will I lose Samsung pay at all?
I've attached some photos of the software version and such.
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Your device is running a version of firmware that was never official for Sprint. That's why you're not getting any updates. Grab SamFirm and download the latest real build. It will be ARJ9 right now.
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/SPR/SM-N960U/version.xml
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Your device is running a version of firmware that was never official for Sprint. That's why you're not getting any updates. Grab SamFirm and download the latest real build. It will be ARJ9 right now.
http://fota-cloud-dn.ospserver.net/firmware/SPR/SM-N960U/version.xml
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Thank you.... Looks like I was running a mixture of Sprint and AT&T which is just weird
Hello guys
I m new here and i want to ask you a question about the note 8 pie update,i live in algeria and i have a sprint note 8 n950u crriere unlocked,for some reason i didn t get OTA update to pie android my first question is why i didn t get pie because of the location mean i m not in usa my second quetion if i update my phone by odin will i loose the signal sense i v bought this phone with android 8 unlocked.
Thank you for your help in advance :fingers-crossed:
Try using smart switch app on PC and phone when connected it should search for latest update out for your model, ie , if its available and your provider does not send out
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chriss_russell said:
Try using smart switch app on PC and phone when connected it should search for latest update out for your model, ie , if its available and your provider does not send out
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Thank chriss i ll try this out nd come back to you with the result
By the way my phone will not be locked again right?
Nah
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You should be able to still receive the OTA update for your device regardless of your location. I am currently using the Korean variant N950N in Hong Kong and I am able to get the OTA OS updates for my device.
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You should be able to still receive the OTA update for your device regardless of your location. I am currently using the Korean variant N950N in Hong Kong and I am able to get the OTA OS updates for my device.
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The difference is he's using a carrier branded device with a non-US SIM card in it.
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The difference is he's using a carrier branded device with a non-US SIM card in it.
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That shouldn't matter. As my N950N is a LG U+ branded unit and I have a HK SIM card in it. I can still get OTA updates without any issues.
So i should wait ?
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That shouldn't matter. As my N950N is a LG U+ branded unit and I have a HK SIM card in it. I can still get OTA updates without any issues.
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Unfortunately it DOES matter on the US variants. If he doesn't have a US SIM in it, then he won't get the OTAs.
Pie is trash in note 8 be happy your on oreo
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Unfortunately it DOES matter on the US variants. If he doesn't have a US SIM in it, then he won't get the OTAs.
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So if i update using odin will i lose signal?
If you update you will lose many great things that's the note 8 had .imo the note 8 is not built to run on one ui.i bet you regret it if you update.i had to roll back from the update to oreo and it was a nightmare using Odin as I'm not technical and am terrible with computers.just really happy my note 8 is back to normal oreo performs amazing on note 8 and looks good .one hi looks trash with the new layout
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Unfortunately it DOES matter on the US variants. If he doesn't have a US SIM in it, then he won't get the OTAs.
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Not my experience.... I am using a N950U1 with a Dutch SIM for 9 months now and I have received all OTAs without any issues...
OnnoJ said:
Not my experience.... I am using a N950U1 with a Dutch SIM for 9 months now and I have received all OTAs without any issues...
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Apples and oranges. The N950U1 is the factory unlocked u branded version and updates are controlled by Samsung. The OP has a Sprint branded N950U, and OTAs would be pushed by Sprint.
Try downloading Samsung Kies onto your computer. Connect your device to your PC and use that to update the OS on your device.
The OP could just flash the N950U1 firmware to his device then he would likely get the OTA updates. But he won't on the N950U. They are the same exact device hardware-wise, just different firmware.
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Unfortunately it DOES matter on the US variants. If he doesn't have a US SIM in it, then he won't get the OTAs.
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I have the U1 Snapdragon (US version unlocked) and I am in Mexico using a Mexican SIM and I am getting all the updates just as everybody does.
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I have the U1 Snapdragon (US version unlocked) and I am in Mexico using a Mexican SIM and I am getting all the updates just as everybody does.
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That's why I said the OP could just flash the U1 firmware and get updates. As long as he's on the carrier branded firmware he won't get them.
Thank you for the confirmation that U1 works out of the US with a foreign SIM!
So I find this interesting, I have a N950U1 with 8.0 on it and I have been getting security updates. But I haven't received the 9.0 update. I am in the US on the Sprint network. Now I did buy the phone as a referb through an Amazon re seller, is there something else that I would need to check to see why I am not seeing the 9.0 update?
This is my first go around with an unlocked phone so this is a some new territory for me.
-Robert
RobAGD said:
So I find this interesting, I have a N950U1 with 8.0 on it and I have been getting security updates. But I haven't received the 9.0 update. I am in the US on the Sprint network. Now I did buy the phone as a referb through an Amazon re seller, is there something else that I would need to check to see why I am not seeing the 9.0 update?
This is my first go around with an unlocked phone so this is a some new territory for me.
-Robert
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What is the security patch you have? I have the same model and before the pie update I was on March patch and funny thing, I recieved the update first week of April and still have the March update but with android Pie.