Stick with international ? or AT&T Stock ? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Not sure if i should stick with the AT&T updates stock or go and flash the International U1 verison of it. Which is doing better performance wise and getting updates ? Which one is most likely to get pie first ? Thanks.

Raz12 said:
Not sure if i should stick with the AT&T updates stock or go and flash the International U1 verison of it. Which is doing better performance wise and getting updates ? Which one is most likely to get pie first ? Thanks.
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I was originally using the Oreo ota leaks but then decided to switch to the U1 firmware. You loose WiFi Calling and Volte but you also gain an unbranded boot screen, no bloat and also the built in spam protector. I've had better performance and battery life using the U1 firmware vs the leaked ota updates. But it'll probably be different for everyone.
No updates yet still on September patch. Not sure how fast or slow they are :/

The_Keeper86 said:
I was originally using the Oreo ota leaks but then decided to switch to the U1 firmware. You loose WiFi Calling and Volte but you also gain an unbranded boot screen, no bloat and also the built in spam protector. I've had better performance and battery life using the U1 firmware vs the leaked ota updates. But it'll probably be different for everyone.
No updates yet still on September patch. Not sure how fast or slow they are :/
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so you think i should stick with U1 ? not got to AT&T ? I mean you would think AT&T would get oreo since it's based on that one.

Raz12 said:
so you think i should stick with U1 ? not got to AT&T ? I mean you would think AT&T would get oreo since it's based on that one.
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I think you misunderstood me me my bad. The AT&T firmware is Oreo. The U2 firmware is Oreo too it just doesn't have the blostware and boot logo. But you loose wifi calling, volte and possible slow to a updates.
Before I installed the AT&T Oreo leak I was using the stock AT&T firmware and disabled all the bloat and got pretty much the same battery life as I do on the U1 firmware. I'm thinking of going back to the official mostly for the faster ota updates. But you could try it and see how it works for you. I hope I was able to help.

The_Keeper86 said:
I think you misunderstood me me my bad. The AT&T firmware is Oreo. The U2 firmware is Oreo too it just doesn't have the blostware and boot logo. But you loose wifi calling, volte and possible slow to a updates.
Before I installed the AT&T Oreo leak I was using the stock AT&T firmware and disabled all the bloat and got pretty much the same battery life as I do on the U1 firmware. I'm thinking of going back to the official mostly for the faster ota updates. But you could try it and see how it works for you. I hope I was able to help.
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thanks bro it did help. i'm prolly going to go back to AT&T instead since the otas seem to be faster and i think pie is coming to at&t first right ? and how did you know what to delete with the bloatware ?

I would advise that you always install the OS updates via OTA. That way you will always get the latest OS update for your device. I wouldn't recommend installing the OS that is release for a different model of your device. As there is a chance that you could brick it.

Raz12 said:
thanks bro it did help. i'm prolly going to go back to AT&T instead since the otas seem to be faster and i think pie is coming to at&t first right ? and how did you know what to delete with the bloatware ?
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I use a thing called Sabs that includes a built in package disabler. It takes a little setting up which you can find guides on. But it's worth it.

iceepyon said:
I would advise that you always install the OS updates via OTA. That way you will always get the latest OS update for your device. I wouldn't recommend installing the OS that is release for a different model of your device. As there is a chance that you could brick it.
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Gotcha well yeah imma prolly go back
The_Keeper86 said:
I use a thing called Sabs that includes a built in package disabler. It takes a little setting up which you can find guides on. But it's worth it.
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Thank you! Will be going back tomorrow. I can Odin back to any firmware right?

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Carrier Unlocked Update! N950U1

I just got off the chat with Samsung and they said the latest update for our device should be out in the next couple of days. Samsung is way slower than the carriers. I have an unlocked Note 8 running the ATT firmware. Will this update wipe my device or put me back to the unlocked carrier firmware?
Thanks for the info. I'm on the same boat. Hope they roll out soon!
It is crazy that we get it last. I mean, Samsung has to provide the update to the carriers, then the carriers tweak the update for their own devices, then they deploy it. Why aren't we getting it first?!
MarineSSGT0629 said:
It is crazy that we get it last. I mean, Samsung has to provide the update to the carriers, then the carriers tweak the update for their own devices, then they deploy it. Why aren't we getting it first?!
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I know I thought the same. I don't think I will be buying another unlocked carrier phone anymore. Not worth it. Right now I have the ATT firmware running on my Unlocked carrier version. So I still ended up debloating the OS.
What's best way to add carrier firmware? Sprint added there version of volte and unlocked version doesn't have it and I don't think it will get it
vincey2kr1 said:
What's best way to add carrier firmware? Sprint added there version of volte and unlocked version doesn't have it and I don't think it will get it
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You probably wont get it unless you flash the carrier firmware. Here is a link to the thread on how to: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884

[Question] How to debrand AT&T to unlocked firmware

Hey Guys,
I tried searching unsuccessfully for some answers on flashing stock unlocked firmware. I want to debloat and receive updates straight from Samsung and not AT&T. Do you guys now of any guides floating around? Or which firmware to flash (SM-N950u1) <-- Unlocked firmware?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I used this guide to flash my AT&T Note8 to Stock Unlocked Firmware https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884
Pretty straight forward and afterwards no AT&T bloat. I even get better battery life.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I used this guide to flash my AT&T Note8 to Stock Unlocked Firmware https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884
Pretty straight forward and afterwards no AT&T bloat. I even get better battery life.
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What security patch are you on? Do you get OTA updates or do you have to manually update? Do you get LTE and LTE-A signals?
ShrekOpher said:
What security patch are you on? Do you get OTA updates or do you have to manually update? Do you get LTE and LTE-A signals?
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I'm on the August security patch only because I'm still debating on if I want to root or not as the newest security patch kills the possibility of root. As for OTA updates, there was one released a month or so back and I was able to update to it with no problems. As for LTE and LTE-A which I assume is LTE+? I get both with the same if not better speeds and signal strength.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I'm on the August security patch only because I'm still debating on if I want to root or not as the newest security patch kills the possibility of root. As for OTA updates, there was one released a month or so back and I was able to update to it with no problems. As for LTE and LTE-A which I assume is LTE+? I get both with the same if not better speeds and signal strength.
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Do you know if the unlocked software is updated to the newest patch yet? I'm trying to figure out which version gets the updates first.
ShrekOpher said:
Do you know if the unlocked software is updated to the newest patch yet? I'm trying to figure out which version gets the updates first.
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Carrier gets updates first ... XAA update has Nov patch

Guides on changing CSC on N960U?

Basically as the title suggest, I'm looking for guide on changing the CSC on my 960U VZW variant. There was one for my 950U and I was wondering if it would essentially be the same process?
What are you wanting to change it to?
Mr. Orange 645 said:
What are you wanting to change it to?
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Trying the change CSC to XAA/XAA/VZW, preferably.
denson9874 said:
Trying the change CSC to XAA/XAA/VZW, preferably.
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Are you just trying to get the unlocked firmware? So you don't have the Verizon bloat?
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Are you just trying to get the unlocked firmware? So you don't have the Verizon bloat?
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Trying to get to the 960U leaks without the bloat. Currently enrolled in U1 beta program but I need WiFi calling
denson9874 said:
Trying to get to the 960U leaks without the bloat. Currently enrolled in U1 beta program but I need WiFi calling
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Well unfortunately it's not possible with Verizon. If you're on the U1 firmware, then you have bloatfree firmware. Plus as you said you can stay on the official beta. If you need WiFi calling, you'll have to install the carrier firmware and flash the leaked builds. But of course that brings the bloatware. You can uninstall or disable a of it, but you'll be left with the Verizon boot animation.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Well unfortunately it's not possible with Verizon. If you're on the U1 firmware, then you have bloatfree firmware. Plus as you said you can stay on the official beta. If you need WiFi calling, you'll have to install the carrier firmware and flash the leaked builds. But of course that brings the bloatware. You can uninstall or disable a of it, but you'll be left with the Verizon boot animation.
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Understood may not be all that bad to just stay on U1, especially being that WiFi calling would be my only benefit, other than being flash happy with leaked builds lol. Thanks boss
denson9874 said:
Understood may not be all that bad to just stay on U1, especially being that WiFi calling would be my only benefit, other than being flash happy with leaked builds lol. Thanks boss
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Anytime!

T-mobile Note 9 - Anyone got Pie yet?

Looking to see if anyone on T-mobile has Android Pie 9.0 yet, the official download. That, or does anyone know when it'll come?
JOSHSKORN said:
Looking to see if anyone on T-mobile has Android Pie 9.0 yet, the official download. That, or does anyone know when it'll come?
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Nope. Probably within the next month I hope.
In the US, officially not yet. I think Verizon was the first one to update the Note 8 to Android 8... I'm not sure how quickly T-MOBILE updated their phones
JOSHSKORN said:
Looking to see if anyone on T-mobile has Android Pie 9.0 yet, the official download. That, or does anyone know when it'll come?
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Just for reference,the Note 8 on T-Mobile didn't get a stable build until May '18 (April '18 version got pulled,buggy).
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-36189
Since the Pie update isn't even on T-Mo's radar yet,I'm guessing we're looking at an equally long wait:
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates
KOLIOSIS said:
Just for reference,the Note 8 on T-Mobile didn't get a stable build until May '18 (April '18 version got pulled,buggy).
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-36189
Since the Pie update isn't even on T-Mo's radar yet,I'm guessing we're looking at an equally long wait:
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates
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Guess I'm going to have to switch this thing back to U1 furmware.?
Jammol said:
Guess I'm going to have to switch this thing back to U1 furmware.?
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I have the U1 device and upgraded to Pie using the same.method that is posted on the how to upgrade to Pie thread. I'm using T-Mobile for my service and everything works fine. If you do not want to ant to wait for the OTA then just follow the guide.
Jammol said:
Guess I'm going to have to switch this thing back to U1 furmware.?
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Why not use the u version leaked by att? Csa7 is fully supporting TMobile and works great.
dottat said:
Why not use the u version leaked by att? Csa7 is fully supporting TMobile and works great.
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Does it lock you into that firmware branch like the Note 8 was with the leaked Oreo builds?
Jammol said:
Does it lock you into that firmware branch like the Note 8 was with the leaked Oreo builds?
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Nope. No bootloader update yet for the note 9 so you are safe to downgrade back to Oreo or even over to u1 firmware if you'd like.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
dottat said:
Nope. No bootloader update yet for the note 9 so you are safe to downgrade back to Oreo or even over to u1 firmware if you'd like.
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Sweet business!??
I now have something to do if work is dead tomorrow. Thank you for the info.
dottat said:
Why not use the u version leaked by att? Csa7 is fully supporting TMobile and works great.
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Do you know if you lose any T-mobile features?
Namely Wi-Fi calling?
Jace B said:
Do you know if you lose any T-mobile features?
Namely Wi-Fi calling?
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You don't lose anything. Everything works.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

N960U1 in the UK

Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
spears93 said:
Hi all,
I bought an unlocked note 9 from eBay which arrived today. I got it set up and went to begin installing a different firmware to be able to get the one UI update - only to find out it's a N960U1! I'm in the UK so was expecting/hoping for a N960F.
It's all working, calls work, I've pulled over 3GB of data today all nice and fast, texts working etc. If I was the 'average user' I wouldn't know that it's not a UK one...
My question is, am I likely to hit any road blocks? As long as the radios all work I can't imagine there being any and the play store has all the apps I use available. I'm just wondering if I'm at any advantage/disadvantage?
Thanks
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I'm on the same boat (I mean, a similar situation because I'm not in the UK I'm in El Salvador). When I received my phone I started looking for the new UI, but I noticed that I had a very old android build version (I was in September security patch, I received my phone February 11) I started reading about and found out that N960U is the branded version of the note in the US. I wanted to update by Odin to one UI but I was afraid to get my phone carrier locked so after reading a lot more, I found that you can update using the right firmware for the phone (N960U) you don't lose carrier unlock and in my case after installing updates, I don't even have any bloatware.
Now, after this context history, I can tell you that the only thing that will affects is any "radio band enhance" or "carrier feature" and that's because you will not be able to install any UK carrier software to that version because N960U and N960F are different hardware, not just software.
Maybe there is another road block that is about updates, I'm on 9.0 but with January security patch, I have not received any new update. To be hones I'm not sure if there is a new one, so I need to wait to confirm that OTA updates are working for me, if not I will take the time to update by ODIN again haha so that's not something that will drive me crazy, and also related to this I think that N960U android versions are coming faster than I thought, some of my friends with N9600 are still stuck on 8.1
If you want to upgrade go to the following thread, there you will have enough information to update.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/guide-upgrade-oreo-to-pie-one-ui-t3888711
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
spears93 said:
Awesome, nice one dude
I used Odin on my previous S8+ to be able to install the one UI beta and that worked fine. Though it did come with a couple of apps that were a part of that carriers firmware (three UK)
I'm aware that the F uses an exynos processor whereas the U is Snapdragon and have seen a couple of guides already. Though they use AT&T firmware and, from what I've seen, have bloatware that would literally be useless to me.
I'll have a look at the guide you linked.
I'd like to have one UI again, but can happily live with the Samsung experience UI if I had to.
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What's the software version that you currently running?
kevindevonwilliams said:
What's the software version that you currently running?
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8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
spears93 said:
8.1 with Samsung experience 9.5
Build number ends ARL1
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Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Option1:
You can flash the Pie beta since you're running U1, there isn't an official release of Pie as yet.
Option2:
You can switch your device to the U firmware and flash the latest OTA however you would have to manually update each time because you won't be getting an update automatically.
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How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version ?
spears93 said:
How come the U firmware wouldn't get OTAs?
My S8+ was flashed to get the beta and that received OTA updates.
If I'm to go onto one UI I'd want it to get OTA updates still. If that means waiting for an official release then so be it
On a different note, I installed an app to get the FM radio working today. Can't do that with the UK exynos version
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Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Because on the U most OTA comes from the carrier (ATT & VZW) while the rest comes from Samsung.
U1 all updates come from Samsung but U1 updates are months behind.
Advantage of running U firmware is you always get to be on the latest OTA as one is available.
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So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
spears93 said:
So correct me if I'm wrong but to simplify what you're saying:
The U gets the latest updates sooner but comes with carrier bloat
The U1 gets non bloated updates but Samsung doesn't release then until months later?
I'll leave it and wait if that's the case. I'd be more bothered about having bloat than One UI
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Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
kevindevonwilliams said:
Well yes the U comes with bloatware but the amount varies according to carrier, but since you're in the UK. Your CSC will read as XAA/XAA so therefore I doubt you would have any bloatware.
I know this because I myself had own a US device while using in the UK.
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Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
spears93 said:
Right, I'm with you, thanks.
My current carrier software version version is XAA/XAA and theres no bloat so I know what I'm hunting for now
Cheers for your help mate
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Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
kevindevonwilliams said:
Right so even if you switch to U firmware it would still remain XAA/XAA because that would be the default CSC code for Unbranded for American model. F model is normally XEU or BTU
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When I did the S8+ I had to go through a pretty big list to find the BTU firmware so assumed I'd have to do the same for the N9
I might give it a go if I get a chance this week
Seeing as you have the US variant of the Note 9. You may have issues receieving connecting to certain networks outside the US. As most US Networks use a different LTE band from the EU/UK

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