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And I've spent the past 1-2 hours reading around 50-ish threads and several hundred posts, and while I'm sure I already know the answer to this question I'm still going to ask it outright.
The specifics:
AT&T XT1058 pure stock Moto X running Android KitKat 4.4.4 as up to date as possible.
Is it rooted? NO
Is the bootloader unlocked? NO
Now, based on those two facts, and after reading all about SunShine (which is pretty awesome so thanks for that one, jcase and the crew that developed it), it seems if I want root then my only potential option at this point in time is "The Chinese Guy" if he's still in business to get a proper bootloader unlock which of course opens this device up entirely to whatever I might care to do.
Honestly the only reasons I care about root access would be for Titanium Backup (since I did purchase that in the past so it's like if I can't make full use of the app itself (because it requires root access to really do everything it's capable of doing) the money was more or less just given away for nothing, and a few other apps that require root level privilege (ES File Explorer root access, a few Wi-Fi tools, that's about it).
Of course, having the fully unlocked bootloader would let me play around with ROMs, kernels, and whatever I damned well please.
So the actual question I hinted at with the beginning of this post is:
For the moment, am I correct in the belief that my only option at all at this time meaning today and into the immediate foreseeable future to do anything with this device is "The Chinese Guy" ... if I want to be able to do more things with the device?
This is my second Moto X, the first one was the trial offer I took advantage of for a penny and I did enjoy the device while I had it, so when I got the chance to get one for free earlier today (traded a laptop for it that was also given to me) I jumped at it.
I understand that with 4.4.4 on it I can't roll back to any previous version, sadly, and that since SunShine requires root to even test the device (the temp root thing, ain't happening) that's a dead end leaving "The Chinese Guy" again as the only potential.
Just looking for a confirmation, that's all.
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Yes, on the XT1058 from ATT with 4.4.4 on it, that is the latest rom/update, you can't downgrade (without risk of bricking the phone) and the China Middleman is the only hope of unlocking your bootloader and/or rooting. (to be clear, I mean the China Middleman doesn't actually root your phone, but once bootloader unlocked you will be able to root)
And yes, having an unlocked bootloader is the only way to flash any rom that isn't the stock Moto rom for the ATT XT1058.
And yes, Sunshine wont work since you can't even temp root 4.4.4.
I am not aware of any new root processes for 4.4.4 with locked bootloader coming, or ways to make Sunshine work on 4.4.4. If something newer is coming, it either wasn't announced yet, or I missed the announcement.
That being said, since it sounds like you got this phone used, rather than new.. who knows what the original owner did to it.. If it was someone who followed these boards, there is a SLIGHT chance they were trying to be tricky, and upgraded only parts of your phone to 4.4.4. Boot into FastbootAp/Bootloader mode, and check the version (second line from the top). If it is 30.B7, you're fully on 4.4.4 and you are stuck. If your bootloader is not 30.B7, then you might have a chance to downgrade your rom safely, and then use sunshine (post the version if its not 30.B7)
Thanks for the info, and yes the bootloader is 30.B7 (2014-06-23). Oh well... it is most definitely used but still in excellent condition (just some cosmetic scrapes and scuffs on the rubberized corners of the back cover). It's a good phone, a solid one, so I'll hang on to it for the time being, just need to get the carrier unlocked for use with T-Mobile but that'll be after the first of November.
It's a Moto X for free, I suppose I really shouldn't complain.
Just hit up jcase on IRC, who makes Sunshine. He's currently working on supporting XT1058 with 4.4.4 -- I have the same one, with the same bootloader. Wait a bit. Looks like he usually publishes stuff every few months. I think we may have an early Christmas gift. Well, it will cost us $25, though.
If he's able to do it then I'll look into it at that time, I may just offload this for a profit, not really sure at the moment. The camera is really depressing, was just outside taking some images here in downtown Las Vegas because we have this huge music festival this weekend (www.lifeisbeautiful.com) and the picture quality is just utterly abysmal - I tried the latest updated Motorola Camera app, Focal, Google Camera, and several others and they all just can't make the actual physical camera do anything decent. Exposures are always wrong, focus is seemingly permanently soft, there's no sharpness at all to most anything regardless of the lighting conditions, etc.
I could ramble on forever but, again it was free so I guess I'll shut up.
I had no idea that I posted something illegal my bad
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I used the Chinese guy to unlock, and haven't looked back. I still run Stock w/ Root, and was worth the $45 to not worry about it anymore. If your gonna keep it, get the unlock code.
Well that Chinese middleman isn't responding to contacts by anyone at the moment so that's a dead end and this one was built on 11-11-2013 so he'd probably not be able to get me one anyway. I just got the carrier unlock code last night and used it without issues. I put it on craigslist along with the Motorola Skip I had and never used, maybe someone will want it. It's still a great phone, but for me, the lack of being able to root it or most anything else makes it basically not something I really need these days. I have a "dumbphone" that works fine and has done so for many years.
Thanks for the info and suggestions, peeps...
Hi folks, I'm looking at getting a Simple Mobile brand Moto G6 (specs line up with the ALI version, not the Play or Plus) through Best Buy for my wife since it is quite a bit cheaper than the normal price ($130 right now), and I'm expecting it to be preloaded with Simple Mobile's crapware which is part of why I'm looking at firmware for replacement.
It doesn't say what the exact model of the Simple Mobile phone is, but it's labeled "SMMTXT1925DG3P5P" and since it is being marketed in the USA, I would assume that it's the XT-1925-6. I could be wrong about that.
After speaking with a Best Buy rep at the store, it seems that the SIMple Mobile version of phones are locked to their service for the first 6 months, after which they give you a code to unlock the phone to be used as normal (quite the annoyance).
This leads me to a few questions:
Is the G6 ALI firmware listed here on XDA the unlocked version of the firmware?
I don't see any explicit version list that the 'stock' firmware is for. Does it work with the XT-1925-6?
If so, would using that firmware be the correct course of action for replacing the Simple Mobile brand firmware, or would there be a better solution?
Any input is appreciated.
Just FYI, I have experience with other (older, circa 2012 - 2015) android phones and devices rooting and flashing replacement ROMs, so not a complete novice at this kind of thing but out of the loop for a while.
Also - I had posted this a few days ago in the firmware thread, but lacking any response I thought this might be a better place to ask about it.
Best buy deal:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/simple-...?skuId=6288014
Previous post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...&postcount=185
Forum admins: Please remove my previous post "SIMple Mobile Moto G6 [ALI] questions", as the title was not descriptive of what I'm trying to do and I didn't see any way to delete it myself.
BA20020 said:
Hi folks, I'm looking at getting a Simple Mobile brand Moto G6 (specs line up with the ALI version, not the Play or Plus) through Best Buy for my wife since it is quite a bit cheaper than the normal price ($130 right now), and I'm expecting it to be preloaded with Simple Mobile's crapware which is part of why I'm looking at firmware for replacement.
It doesn't say what the exact model of the Simple Mobile phone is, but it's labeled "SMMTXT1925DG3P5P" and since it is being marketed in the USA, I would assume that it's the XT-1925-6. I could be wrong about that.
After speaking with a Best Buy rep at the store, it seems that the SIMple Mobile version of phones are locked to their service for the first 6 months, after which they give you a code to unlock the phone to be used as normal (quite the annoyance).
This leads me to a few questions:
Is the G6 ALI firmware listed here on XDA the unlocked version of the firmware?
I don't see any explicit version list that the 'stock' firmware is for. Does it work with the XT-1925-6?
If so, would using that firmware be the correct course of action for replacing the Simple Mobile brand firmware, or would there be a better solution?
Any input is appreciated.
Just FYI, I have experience with other (older, circa 2012 - 2015) android phones and devices rooting and flashing replacement ROMs, so not a complete novice at this kind of thing but out of the loop for a while.
Also - I had posted this a few days ago in the firmware thread, but lacking any response I thought this might be a better place to ask about it.
Best buy deal:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/simple-...?skuId=6288014
Previous post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...&postcount=185
Forum admins: Please remove my previous post "SIMple Mobile Moto G6 [ALI] questions", as the title was not descriptive of what I'm trying to do and I didn't see any way to delete it myself.
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1.to be brutally honest with you Don't come on here thinking because you have rooted a few phones from 3-5 years ago you get what's going on. Root methods have changed since then especially for these phones the root for any g6 model is a little Advanced and there alot of junior members come on here thinking because they rooted a phone once they don't have to read anything in the guide then they wind up bricking there phone. 2. As long as it can be bootloader unlocked you should be able to flash the firmware for your device as long as you can 100% confirm it is the ali device but also if your flashing a firmware not made specifically for your phone you run into the risk of bugs and possible bootloop. 3. There different variants of the xt1925 some are like xt1925-1 or the Verizon model is xt1925-12 the tracphone version however is just plain xt1925. 4. Your best bet is either buying the g6 unlocked or wait 6 months to have it sim unlocked tbh
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1.to be brutally honest with you Don't come on here thinking because you have rooted a few phones from 3-5 years ago you get what's going on. Root methods have changed since then especially for these phones the root for any g6 model is a little Advanced and there alot of junior members come on here thinking because they rooted a phone once they don't have to read anything in the guide then they wind up bricking there phone. 2. As long as it can be bootloader unlocked you should be able to flash the firmware for your device as long as you can 100% confirm it is the ali device but also if your flashing a firmware not made specifically for your phone you run into the risk of bugs and possible bootloop. 3. There different variants of the xt1925 some are like xt1925-1 or the Verizon model is xt1925-12 the tracphone version however is just plain xt1925. 4. Your best bet is either buying the g6 unlocked or wait 6 months to have it sim unlocked tbh
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Thank you for the words of caution. I am extremely careful when it comes to modding my devices, and there have been a couple times when I decided against it for no other reason than I couldn't get thorough enough information and details about what I would be trying to do.
I will be purchasing this G6, I will check what model it is when I get it, and I will consider just keeping it on the Simple Mobile plan for 6 months if I think there's any likelihood of having issues with the replacement firmware. I've also been reading a bit about issues that people have been having with modding the bootloader just to get TWRP installed or bricking their phones, so I'm getting the picture that these aren't the easiest to work with. I will continue reading and try to be as prepared as possible if and when I decide to start in on the G6.
They aren't the hardest device to mod. @ninjakira has a great guide but I forget if it is for the G6 or 6 Play. Since he didn't reference it, I'm assuming it's for the G6 Play. When you get the device, feel free to post back for help on deciphering whether or not the device is truly an Ali. I suspect it is, but you will be helping out the community so that we can help future members that might get the SimpleMobile variant.
Now on to Simple Mobile, I hate tracphone with a passion. More so Simple Mobile then all the others. I will say I used Straight Talk for many years without any major problems. SimpleMobile was a nightmare. They lied to me multiple times about issuing a refund. They blocked the device, initially, from being used on another Tracphone service, and it wasn't even due to the 6 Month policy. I don't know their exact policy but the 6-month rule was never even brought up. Eventually, I had to go through Tracphone Corporate to get my refund. I also had issues with reception, but maybe it was device related. I didn't use the device long. It was a cheap ZTE prepaid just to get me by until I had the funds for a proper upgrade. I will never ever use Simple Mobile in anyway shape or form. The only reason I used them was because of the prepaid devices I looked at, it had the best specs.
Side note: Your links don't work. I guess you copy and paste the links from somewhere other than your address bar. Wherever you copied the links from, they were truncated (the ...) already. So you pasted the truncate url instead of the full url.
My guide is more or less a cleaned up and somewhat simplied one for the Moto g6 play, but from what I've read from the regular g6 thread it was similar to how we needed a patched boot.img and fstab file to turn off for encryption and dm verity but since magisk 16.7 all that's needed anymore is a patched twrp and then installing magisk which patches the boot.img and everything else needed to turn off force encryption and dm verity. As long as you take the time to fully read the guides you should be successful in achieving root on any of the Moto g6 variants though. Android 8 really is the game changer on all this and partly the reason it's harder to get custom roms going though because of all the new security updates. So once the devs become more well acquainted with Android 8 as well as gsi ( generic system images) and a/b partitions we should see a general improvement on custom rom development for all phones including ours like we have seen with Android 7 and below.
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Now on to Simple Mobile, I hate tracphone with a passion. More so Simple Mobile then all the others. I will say I used Straight Talk for many years without any major problems. SimpleMobile was a nightmare. They lied to me multiple times about issuing a refund. They blocked the device, initially, from being used on another Tracphone service, and it wasn't even due to the 6 Month policy. I don't know their exact policy but the 6-month rule was never even brought up. Eventually, I had to go through Tracphone Corporate to get my refund. I also had issues with reception, but maybe it was device related. I didn't use the device long. It was a cheap ZTE prepaid just to get me by until I had the funds for a proper upgrade. I will never ever use Simple Mobile in anyway shape or form. The only reason I used them was because of the prepaid devices I looked at, it had the best specs.
Side note: Your links don't work. I guess you copy and paste the links from somewhere other than your address bar. Wherever you copied the links from, they were truncated (the ...) already. So you pasted the truncate url instead of the full url.
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Thank you for the warning about Simple Mobile. I will avoid them if at all possible, but first I would like to see what I can do with this phone when it arrives.
As for the links, I had copied and pasted a large portion of the original post to this one, and looks like it messed up the links. Let me try that again:
Best Buy - Simple Mobile - Moto G6 (not play or plus) Blue - 3GB RAM / 32GB Storage, new for $130:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/simple-mobile-moto-g6-blue/6288014.p?skuId=6288014
And for my other post that I linked to, it appears to have been deleted as this discussion superseded it.
I have received the phone, and it appears to be a XT-1925DL. This obviously complicates things.
This website seems to equate the 'DL' version to XT-1925-10 and gives an outline for getting TWRP setup on it:
http://androidbiits.com/root-motorola-moto-g6-xt1925-10-xt1925dl-blaine-easily/
Most of the stuff I'm seeing here on XDA is for 1925's 2 - 6.
Advice?
What did you end up doing with the phone? Did you get it unlocked?
DL is bootloader locked, for TracFone, Straight Talk, and other postpaid services
I bought my note 9 back in December when my note 4 finally because useless as a phone (Mic didn't work 90% of the time even after I replaced the mic/buttons/etc daughterboard ) and ever since it's been harassing me to update.
The main concern I have is whether this will affect my ability to root the phone in the future. Right now (or last I checked) I know there is no way to root the note 9 (though the main reason I root is for tethering, which, while a bit more clunky with WiFi tethering broken, PDANet is handling alright for now --- though after past mishaps I also worry the update may break it). Are we to the point where firmware even matters or is it still "There is no practical means of rooting visible in the future" so it doesn't matter?
And... if it does matter for possible future rooting is there any way to permanently hide the notification?
Thanks in advance!
You most certainly can root the Note 9 (I have one sat next to me at the moment) but you may not be able to root your Note 9. Which model do you have?
Which ever version it is though, if it isn't currently root-able then it's very unlikely to be in the future. Should a vulnerability be found in an older version, you could just flash that version on to the phone with Odin anyway.
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You most certainly can root the Note 9 (I have one sat next to me at the moment) but you may not be able to root your Note 9. Which model do you have?
Which ever version it is though, if it isn't currently root-able then it's very unlikely to be in the future. Should a vulnerability be found in an older version, you could just flash that version on to the phone with Odin anyway.
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Mine wasn't rootable for some time I think, it's the Sprint/USA variant with 128gb (I think snapdragon...? it's getting early at this point and both memory and Google are failing me at finding the model number) which has locked bootloaders. Of Course this might be for the best since I'm being forced to lease-to-own the phone (I get my "upgrade discount" only as a month service credit over the length of the lease... so paying outright or even just paying it off early means I lose $250 --- or whatever % is left based on how early I pay it off) and I assume my warranty will remain until the end of the lease period. and as of right now its not a huge problem since the #1 reason I root is for tethering (which is working for the most part over PDANet) I'm mostly OK with the carrier stock settings (and there's enough storage that removing carrier bloatware isn't as dire as it used to be)
Glad to hear downgrading is so easy now, I'm still used to "welp once you upgrade that's it, there's no going back!" and it has just spent the last ~30 minutes installing 4 updates, though it was (hopefully) worth it since the last one was the Pie upgrade (not to mention my OCD is no longer triggered by that annoying notification...)
FunkyHuawei has taken kind of a weird turn recently, starting with a total conversion from a 'credit' system to a subscription model. They released info about this on the 10th, on their Twitter account:
https://mobile.twitter.com/FunkyHuawei
A monthly fee... Hmm, I wonder why. Could it be that their new workaround to get 'root' on the Mate 20 Pro is a very fragile hack that doesn't actually unlock the bootloader, and can (and will) be disabled with *ANY* kind of update - be it firmware or otherwise? Yeah, that is what else they announced - that they have a working hack to 'kinda' get root on the Mate 20 Pro. It is detailed here:
https://funkyhuawei.club/root
A few things to note from this:
1) They seem to only be able to do it for 3 distinct models: LYA-L29, LYA-L09, LYA-L0C. Yay for Canadians, I guess?
2) They can (or will) *only* perform this service over remote control of your computer, via TeamViewer. That kinda makes me cringe, for too many reasons to list. It doesn't mean it is necessarily shady, but if given the option I would rather not go down that road.
3) The service is PRICEY. Even though they only announced it three days ago, the 'opening sale' is over after today, and will normally cost $190 USD. (It is on 'sale' at the moment for $165). This is pretty damned expensive, given the, er... 'transient' nature of the hack - and the obvious reliance on the subscription model as a result.
4) They are a little vague about this one, but even though they have also come up with a way to flash any firmware to any phone, even if the OEM bootloader unlock is grayed out, this hack seems to only work with specific versions of firmware. In other words, they are likely going to do a downgrade and they certainly aren't going to promise future proof. This... Isn't good.
5) They clearly state that any changes to anything will break the hack, and that is on YOU. In other words, they are hinting that even with the new subscription model you would need to pay full price for them to perform this remote service every time. Not only that, they are not responsible for anything going wrong, even during their initial attempt. That is standard practice for this kind of thing I guess, but at that price?
I can't see myself going for this. It sounds too flakey to be worth it. Honestly it looks like we just have to hold out hope that someone brute forces the encryption on the algorithm used to generate the bootloader unlock codes, or a solid working hack to get around it. FH is charging this kind of money because they are betting that there will never be any other way to get 'root' on a Mate 20 Pro, even though this smells a lot like the tethered jailbreaks for the iphones that were so fragile they could break if the wrong app was executed never mind rebooting the phone.
To anyone who goes this route, let us know how it works out. It sounds like once successful (and if you never flash the firmware) you ARE able to install a working SU/Magisk onto the phone yourself. They go out of their way to say that they will flash a TWRP recovery to the phone if you wish, but they won't put any root on it themselves. Again, probably a legal thing more than anything else.
I wish Huawei would just sell us bootloader unlock codes.
I think there's no discussion because of what you've already outlined and that, based on their recent track record, no one really trusts them.
The reason they'll only do it over Team Viewer is because they don't want to give you the tools in order to 1) force you to go back to them when it gets reverted by an update and 2) to stop the tools getting shared. If they connect to your PC then they can download what they need from their servers (securely using authentication) run it then clean up after themselves so as not to leave anything behind.
As you say, they're relying on there being no alternative and that M20P owners become desperate enough to go this route but I can't see that many going for it.
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The reason they'll only do it over Team Viewer is because they don't want to give you the tools in order to 1) force you to go back to them when it gets reverted by an update and 2) to stop the tools getting shared. If they connect to your PC then they can download what they need from their servers (securely using authentication) run it then clean up after themselves so as not to leave anything behind.
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Hmm, that sounds exactly like what they would do. We need someone to go through this and pull off a bit of a hack of their own and keep all the software/data they download onto your computer. I wonder how paranoid they are, surely they don't go so far as to run tools that wipe the free space left when they delete their own stuff? Meh, this sounds like kind of a flaky hack - so far. I don't have a problem with them charging for a good service but $200 is a LOT for something that can't survive basic firmware upgrades.
I am glad no one is talking about this, because they are a piece of crap. They only want to steal our money. 100$+ for crap hack... Ahahah.
Funkyhuawei are nothing but scammers.
Yes, Just scammers, First of all, we should not promote them on XDA.
Fully agree with what is written in the previous post and I would never go to this service.
What remains is to point at the real source of all this, namely Huawei and their refusal to allow bootloader unlocking. Why in all heavens is it not possible for them to do it like many other companies do? In the light of all this I sadly state that the Mate 20 Pro was my first and last Huawei phone !
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Fully agree with what is written in the previous post and I would never go to this service.
What remains is to point at the real source of all this, namely Huawei and their refusal to allow bootloader unlocking. Why in all heavens is it not possible for them to do it like many other companies do? In the light of all this I sadly state that the Mate 20 Pro was my first and last Huawei phone !
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There's always One Plus where you pay $700 for a $300 phone with an upgraded processor and have to use custom ROMs that always have bugs because Oxygen is an ineptly coded train-wreck.
Strange how nobody seems to mind that XDA has been shilling for One Plus for years.
But at least you can unlock the bootloader, right?
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There's always One Plus where you pay $700 for a $300 phone with an upgraded processor and have to use custom ROMs that always have bugs because Oxygen is an ineptly coded train-wreck.
Strange how nobody seems to mind that XDA has been shilling for One Plus for years.
But at least you can unlock the bootloader, right?
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You can always use a downgrade file that funkyhuawei customer service told you would work and have thay file brick your phone and be told 'its your fault the file didnt work' after paying out 150 in unlimited passes and bootloader unlock codes.
But you can always use your huawei warrenty and get a battered device returned to you right?
$190 for a "root but not root" solution is just daylight robbery. I dont think FH are welcome here anymore...
Ive done a paypal dispute. Sent paypal proof of huawei repair. Proof of email exchanges from funky that shows his files caused the damage. Hopefully will win but you never know.
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Ive done a paypal dispute. Sent paypal proof of huawei repair. Proof of email exchanges from funky that shows his files caused the damage. Hopefully will win but you never know.
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Just a quick update, I will have to look into it but I will pay FH $500 if they can install malware onto my pc that hijacks all my banking information as long as they can make my phone stop with the WORST AUTO-BRIGHTNESS NIGHTMARE EVAR. Like, seriously... Really?
Really?!
In my opinion a scam and scammers never last long, that's the story of funky huawei...good thing I didn't pay them for anything, day light robbers,
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In my opinion a scam and scammers never last long, that's the story of funky huawei...good thing I didn't pay them for anything, day light robbers,
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My paypal dispute failed. Even after proof of broken phone, repair, and being forced to purchase a bootloader code just to use my unlimited pass (bootloader was already unlocked he wouldnt switch my pass). Oh well
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My paypal dispute failed. Even after proof of broken phone, repair, and being forced to purchase a bootloader code just to use my unlimited pass (bootloader was already unlocked he wouldnt switch my pass). Oh well
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ok are you still within your 90 day paypal protection ?, if you are write them an email detailing everything and tell them their decision is against paypal buyer protection. You did not receive the level of service you were shown on funky (scammer) website and than your phone got messed up as well that's enough to appeal, try it and see what they say. Happened with me on a eBay purchase, they decided in favour of the seller, I wrote them they refunded me the full amount. Hope this helps, cheers.
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ok are you still within your 90 day paypal protection ?, if you are write them an email detailing everything and tell them their decision is against paypal buyer protection. You did not receive the level of service you were shown on funky (scammer) website and than your phone got messed up as well that's enough to appeal, try it and see what they say. Happened with me on a eBay purchase, they decided in favour of the seller, I wrote them they refunded me the full amount. Hope this helps, cheers.
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Itd 180 days protection. Yes I have been messaging them further screenshots etc to try get the decision overturned.
Edit paypal are replying with the same message at every turn now.
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Itd 180 days protection. Yes I have been messaging them further screenshots etc to try get the decision overturned.
Edit paypal are replying with the same message at every turn now.
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ohh ok, I guess I got lucky than, try sending an email to someone higher up, might help, worth a try mate,
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ohh ok, I guess I got lucky than, try sending an email to someone higher up, might help, worth a try mate,
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Do u have an email add for anyone higher up?
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Do u have an email add for anyone higher up?
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send you a private message, cheers.
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send you a private message, cheers.
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Was unable to post it privately but heres what I said.
After 3 days spent trying to rebrand/dual sim change my phone, I've come to the conclusion that it is just a total con. Here's my experience of it.
Firstly, this will not work with android/emui 9 handsets. Not only doe FH not make you aware of this, they go as far as to suggest it will. From their instructions:
1. Install HiSuite version 9.0.2.301 -- It must be this version.
Link here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f6mzk6Ya9Jm6lRt3U8atJaJLVGgKisW6
2. Run FHHiSuiteInstaller.exe as administrator (right-click and choose Run As Administrator)
NOTE: The tool will not work unless you are logged in with credits or a pass!
If it fails make sure you're logged in with credits or an active pass, and you are not using a VPN or a proxy.
3. Select the update you want to install on FunkyHuawei's site.
Instructions for 'Incompatible Phones' - EMUI 8 and below phones which have been upgraded to EMUI 9:
1. Follow steps 1 - 3 above
2. Uninstall HiSuite 9.0.2.301
3. Install HiSuite version 5.0.2.301 from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OPeu3s-Np_7uZndVEBkzBZTYC1Bayl14/view
4. Connect your phone to HiSuite normally (not in Fastboot mode)
5. Use the 'Update' function to install firmware via FunkyHuawei.
After spending a day and a half pulling my hair out trying to get my phone working and then downgraded to android/emui 8, I was finally in a position to attempt this again. I chose fw CLT-L29 8.1.0.159(C432), the match to my CLT-L09 8.1.0.159(C782) fw. I used the above instructions, everything looked like it was going okay, rebooted and it was still a CLT-L09 (C782) fw, just a different version. And to add insult to injury, the bootloader is now locked again with no way to unlock. And of course, FH doesn't want to know when things don't work as theyre meant to.
This is a total waste of time and money.
Are you sure you didn't miss a step?
aka.petteri said:
Are you sure you didn't miss a step?
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Absolutely not. I was at it for 3 days. I could've reverse engineered it quicker ffs.
Finally somebody understands how scummy FH is.
This has become a known issue now. I even tried to get a refund off PayPal for the agg they caused and because they didn't offer any actual support or help. Had to find it out myself. They still haven't updated the website despite me telling them the problem. Works eventually but not before days of research and aggravation
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I got a refund from PayPal, FH didn't ever bother to answer PayPal's investigation because they knew they f****d up.
As for the OP, I am really sorry for you, now that you can't unlock your bootloader again, you need to replace your phone's motherboard (I suppose).
Your bootloader relocked because you didn't read properly. That is advised on the site I'm afraid. Switching to l29 dual sim will change imei. That's why I just did strsight swap to l09 C432 you'll probably find the error was yours here in selecting the correct region code and model
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Funky are crooks.
The fact that they offer a paid for, premium service means that is an agreement between yourself and them and there are certain things they have to adhere to, like forewarning about major irreversible changes to your device.
Because they alter the device and make it into a state that can no longer be unlocked (bootloader) this means their service is flawed, not only that but the multitude of people who paid for it is insane.
They didn't even warn people about it. Maybe they do now but that wasn't always the case.
In all fairness, get a refund. They can't argue, PayPal will back you 100%
What they've done is fundamentally unlawful.
I'm really surprised that they haven't been taken to a small claims court.
Don't pay them a penny.
dladz said:
Funky are crooks.
The fact that they offer a paid for, premium service means that is an agreement between yourself and them and there are certain things they have to adhere to, like forewarning about major irreversible changes to your device.
Because they alter the device and make it into a state that can no longer be unlocked (bootloader) this means their service is flawed, not only that but the multitude of people who paid for it is insane.
They didn't even warn people about it. Maybe they do now but that wasn't always the case.
In all fairness, get a refund. They can't argue, PayPal will back you 100%
What they've done is fundamentally unlawful.
I'm really surprised that they haven't been taken to a small claims court.
Don't pay them a penny.
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I did mine a few months ago now and there were warnings about changing to dual sim causing future problems hence I avoided that. No doubt they need to put up more info re limitations of their tools though and advice on how to proceed though
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blufreak said:
I did mine a few months ago now and there were warnings about changing to dual sim causing future problems hence I avoided that. No doubt they need to put up more info re limitations of their tools though and advice on how to proceed though
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Wasn't always there and believe me it should be extremely obvious. In fact they should be warning everybody.
I would be very annoyed if I'd paid for that and got shafted.
Oh I was pissed and gave them a mouthful when they stopped replying soon as I actually paid and needed help. Thankfully I'm stubborn and ocd and managed to read and research enough to get round it safely and I'm now C432 would never recommend them tho. Not sure if any the others out there are any better
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blufreak said:
Oh I was pissed and gave them a mouthful when they stopped replying soon as I actually paid and needed help. Thankfully I'm stubborn and ocd and managed to read and research enough to get round it safely and I'm now C432 would never recommend them tho. Not sure if any the others out there are any better
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I did the guide i rewrote on here. Worked perfectly..
Dual SIM no but I didn't need it..
There's another user who followed the same process but it went completely wrong. And he actually did get dual IMEI's
No idea how it's possible and I obviously haven't seen it but he had no reason to lie. Think I've still got his messages somewhere.
To confirm, he did not use the funky method.
I saw someone else followed a guide and it went south badly but from recollection I think the one I refer to actually selected for l29 but the process didn't complete, only enough to screw the imei. Just doing region code wouldn't touch imei. Unfortunately user error can occur and zero support doesn't help at all.
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blufreak said:
Your bootloader relocked because you didn't read properly. That is advised on the site I'm afraid. Switching to l29 dual sim will change imei. That's why I just did strsight swap to l09 C432 you'll probably find the error was yours here in selecting the correct region code and model
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There's always one.
Many thanks dladz and aka.petteri. I've lodged a claim with paypal now. It should be interesting to see if FH defends themselves.
Read my previous replies, I had issues with them and put a PayPal request in as well, but I read enough elsewhere prior to doing it to know imei wouldn't be affected unless tried change to dual aim. I'm just saying what they're also likely to say, as it's about the only warning it gives on the site
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Stop using FunkyHuawei. Problem solved
aka.petteri said:
I got a refund from PayPal, FH didn't ever bother to answer PayPal's investigation because they knew they f****d up.
As for the OP, I am really sorry for you, now that you can't unlock your bootloader again, you need to replace your phone's motherboard (I suppose).
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dladz said:
Funky are crooks.
The fact that they offer a paid for, premium service means that is an agreement between yourself and them and there are certain things they have to adhere to, like forewarning about major irreversible changes to your device.
Because they alter the device and make it into a state that can no longer be unlocked (bootloader) this means their service is flawed, not only that but the multitude of people who paid for it is insane.
They didn't even warn people about it. Maybe they do now but that wasn't always the case.
In all fairness, get a refund. They can't argue, PayPal will back you 100%
What they've done is fundamentally unlawful.
I'm really surprised that they haven't been taken to a small claims court.
Don't pay them a penny.
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blufreak said:
Read my previous replies, I had issues with them and put a PayPal request in as well, but I read enough elsewhere prior to doing it to know imei wouldn't be affected unless tried change to dual aim. I'm just saying what they're also likely to say, as it's about the only warning it gives on the site
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My imei didn't change. My phone still works as it did before attempting the changes. Its just that the changes didn't apply and to add insult to injury, my bootloader is locked again without any chance of ever being unlocked.
Intrestingly, FH is now saying they cannot supply bootloader unlock codes, and has no idea when, if ever, they will be able to offer this service in the future. This certainly seems like they were getting the unlock codes directly from Huawei and now that Huawei no longer supplys the codes, neither do they.
Any good dual-sim conversion tutorial here to follow? I don't want to use FunkyHuawei anymore.
I am curious how much the unlock codes will cost. Last time a single code was 129$ haha
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My imei didn't change. My phone still works as it did before attempting the changes. Its just that the changes didn't apply and to add insult to injury, my bootloader is locked again without any chance of ever being unlocked.
Intrestingly, FH is now saying they cannot supply bootloader unlock codes, and has no idea when, if ever, they will be able to offer this service in the future. This certainly seems like they were getting the unlock codes directly from Huawei and now that Huawei no longer supplys the codes, neither do they.
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So they basically sold your a service which rendered your device into s state that cannot be altered and they can't help any further because they're weakly binded to Huawei?
Did you get a refund? Sorry man I'd be taking them to small claims court for a new phone.
That's terrible.
Paid for "service" so much changes when it's an actual seller / buyer transaction. They haven't sold what they advertised. And it's borked your phone. Lol.
Have a word.