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Hello guys.
I know you're all tired of people QQing about battery life, but I've yet to find a thread that addresses my issue.
Anyways, I'm running cog 4.2.2, and recently I've seen a drastic decrease in battery life with no change in the way i use my phone, no new apps, and no new roms. I've calibrated my battery about 5 times now, and the same for rebuilding my batterystats.bin. I used to be able to make it through a full day without charging with battery to spare, now it dies sometime in the evening even after bumping the battery charge several times. I charge it every chance I get (between classes, when I'm adding files to it via usb, etc) and it STILL dies. at one point, I observed that my battery dropped 15% in 30 minutes. I used os monitor to check if any apps were running using a lot of cpu, but nothing uses more than about 1% (most things usually show 0%) except the operating system itself, which is at about 7%. Should I just cave and buy a new battery from amazon, or is there something else I can try, short of flashing a different rom?
iamtheculprit said:
Should I just cave and buy a new battery from amazon, or is there something else I can try, short of flashing a different rom?
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Yes 10 char
maybe your batterystats are ****ed up? i deleted the file once before with sgs tools and then wiped dalvik cache and it for some reason seemed to fix my battery issues, and sped up my system somewhat
Don't bump charge so much. Lithium ion batteries aren't designed to go to 100 so often and over charging can result in decrease longevity of the battery itself. The phone has a feature to prevent over charging. When it's on the charger the second it reaches 100 it will stop charging and let the battery trickle down to 95 or so and starts that cycle over again. Too much bump charging can actually damage the battery.
After deleting the batterystats.bin do you let it go through a few full drain and charge cycles before making a judgement on the battery life?
studacris said:
Don't bump charge so much. Lithium ion batteries aren't designed to go to 100 so often and over charging can result in decrease longevity of the battery itself.
After deleting the batterystats.bin do you let it go through a few full drain and charge cycles before making a judgement on the battery life?
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I realize that, and I can't make it through the day without charging it. I only charge it when it's at less than 10% though.
Also, I have deleted the batterystats.bin and let it go through a full drain and several charge cycles. It didn't help at all.
Also it's worth noting that today I left it on the charger powered off after it reached 100% while powered on. I left it plugged in for three hours, and it never indicated 100% while powered down. It stayed at about 90% full, more or less.
replacement oem batteries are relatively cheap, cause it sounds like you got a lemon. Sorry man.
studacris said:
Replacement batteries are relatively cheap, sounds like you got a lemon. Sorry man.
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For 8 bucks, it's worth a shot. The most perplexing thing is that it won't max out while the phone is shut off. Tell-tale sign of effed up battery?
iamtheculprit said:
For 8 bucks, it's worth a shot. The most perplexing thing is that it won't max out while the phone is shut off. Tell-tale sign of effed up battery?
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Yeah that would raise a big red flag for me.
Try a different rom see if that offers any better battery life, I doubt it but It's completely free to try. Something to mess with while you wait for a replacement. And if it turns out to work then you will have 2 batteries.
simbill said:
maybe your batterystats are ****ed up? i deleted the file once before with sgs tools and then wiped dalvik cache and it for some reason seemed to fix my battery issues, and sped up my system somewhat
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going to try wiping the dalvik cache before I order the battery. Wiped batterystats.bin while I was at it. Maybe it'll help.
I got about 11-12 hours today, but I did nothing but text really. This is after full charge, deleting dal cache, and deleting batterystats.bin and then restarting. I mean I recieved a few pics but I really didn't do anything on my phone today other than that. That's just pathetic, since before I was getting through a full day (8:30-2am roughly) with battery to spare and I was using it a lot more heavily than I did today.
The thing is, that I'm having this issue for a while now. Battery drains extremely fast both on stock, stock + ext4, cyanogenmod, no matter what. Now I decided to install the stable version of Darky 10.1, but it's just about the same... It's like it drops 2-3% percentages in couple of mins (~10m). I'm using my phone at minimum brightness (btw, display uses 9%! only of the battery), no OC/UV, no animations, only 2g, no wifi, no gps, no account sync, so I'm like really trying to get more...
Okay, and here comes the thing: It used up 70% of the battery in less than 5 hours, and the battery stats looks like this:
Android OS 62%
Android system 10%
Display 9%
Cell standby 5%
Phone idle 2%
Dialer 1%
Dead Rider (just a game..) 1%
In my opinion, everything looks great, but the Android OS. Now what the *** is that, that this crap uses 62% and growing ?! PLease help, thanks!
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The thing is, that I'm having this issue for a while now. Battery drains extremely fast both on stock, stock + ext4, cyanogenmod, no matter what. Now I decided to install the stable version of Darky 10.1, but it's just about the same... It's like it drops 2-3% percentages in couple of mins (~10m). I'm using my phone at minimum brightness (btw, display uses 9%! only of the battery), no OC/UV, no animations, only 2g, no wifi, no gps, no account sync, so I'm like really trying to get more...
Okay, and here comes the thing: It used up 70% of the battery in less than 5 hours, and the battery stats looks like this:
Android OS 62%
Android system 10%
Display 9%
Cell standby 5%
Phone idle 2%
Dialer 1%
Dead Rider (just a game..) 1%
In my opinion, everything looks great, but the Android OS. Now what the *** is that, that this crap uses 62% and growing ?! PLease help, thanks!
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Hmmm what apps r u using ? how many apps do u have installed ?
Did u buy ur phone used or from new and if u got it from new did u do the over charging for 16 hours or more ?
android OS is a huge problem for battery drain with a few causes and plenty unknown.
to fix it completely will require some skill full people from a closed source.. Download an app such as juice plotter or similar to find out a cause of the battery drain.
there are things you can do such as undervolting for extra battery life.
But the best thing to do is type in Android OS battery drain, in the search bar and have a good read up. i had this mega battery drain a few weeks back but i have it under control now
94kram01 said:
The thing is, that I'm having this issue for a while now. Battery drains extremely fast both on stock, stock + ext4, cyanogenmod, no matter what. Now I decided to install the stable version of Darky 10.1, but it's just about the same... It's like it drops 2-3% percentages in couple of mins (~10m). I'm using my phone at minimum brightness (btw, display uses 9%! only of the battery), no OC/UV, no animations, only 2g, no wifi, no gps, no account sync, so I'm like really trying to get more...
Okay, and here comes the thing: It used up 70% of the battery in less than 5 hours, and the battery stats looks like this:
Android OS 62%
Android system 10%
Display 9%
Cell standby 5%
Phone idle 2%
Dialer 1%
Dead Rider (just a game..) 1%
In my opinion, everything looks great, but the Android OS. Now what the *** is that, that this crap uses 62% and growing ?! PLease help, thanks!
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Charge your phone till it reads 100%, reboot into recovery and I think in Darky's Kernel under advanced you will see wipe battery, do this, boot your phone and let it charge back to 100%, then unplug your phone, let it die to 0 and charge again.....something weird is happening because it shouldn't be that bad....if the above doesn't work and you can rule out apps possibly you have a bad battery?? To rule out apps, wipe everything and do a fresh install of a stock ROM if it still drops then i would say it's a bad battery, but try what I suggested first (wipe battery stats)
The last maps upgrade causes bettery drain....
how to slove this problem?
Hi!
I have the exact same Problem..some say this is a bug in the gingerbread versions and can only be solved by samsung...is this true? Any ideas?
Well, I've had a pretty big read-up on it, and tested it myself, what's more tried out other things too. So I came to a conclusion, that this is absolutely true. It's said to be enough the 'freeze' the apps that cause this problem, but it's just not true. With frozen, they somehow still did it. So here's what I've done, and it looks like solved (far not as good battery life as 2.2.1, but still, at least acceptable...):
- format internal sd card
- removed the suspicious apps (msyncml, syncml, it depends on your rom, the important is, that it has "sync" it its name, and NOT account sync!)(I also removed Samsung account, and everything **** that I didn't need)
I'm having BUJV9 on right now with newest FuguMod and it looks good.
It does not mean Android OS is using 62% of your battery over the time in question .
Its a measure of what has used the power not the power drain on the battery .
Though useful on a heavy drain as your figures show display off OS using a lot but what time span at the top of your figures ..
I would guess from figures posted you have something working away in the background . A factory reset usually cures that problem .
Or find the culprit .
PowerTutor from the market may help .
jje
I was having the Same Problems with Battery Drain. (Dropped 70% in 6 Hrs.)
It is related to 2 Services on Gingerbread.
Software Update & Samsung Account.
Clear Data and Freeze Programs using Titanium Backup and Your Battery should be back to Normal.
Huge drain on battery SGS i9000 android gingerbread v.2.3.3
I did like some other users have done I quess!?!
I upgraded via KIES from earlier version of android. After upgrade I did a reset to factory settings, but didn't set the "Format USB storage".
I installed a few programs and used the phone for a few days. After short time of usage I noticed that the battery drained really fast. Like 20% within 1 hour or so. Normally 20% battery drainage happens in a day with little use.
Then I thought something must have gone wrong with the last upgrade. Many time the tip is to clear the phone again and this time I set the "Format USB storage". It worked. Now the battery drains about 30 percent during a normal day with little use.
Since I have a backup of everything, I just installed the backup so the phone is back to normal again.
I hope this might lead to solving battery drainage issue for other users or at least and idea of what could be wrong.
First of all, I do not trust this solution, but it work to me
Solution is simple, remove your memory card from the phone
That is all
After check, found that the scan media always running to scan the memory card
This might deal to corrupted card
People say backup the data from memory card, format the card, put back the data
I haven't try format the card
But after my phone remove the card, now already 13 hours, I still have 82% and I did few phone call as well
there is an app by the name of battery calibration...follow instruction from within the app and it should solve the problem of android OS drain .. i shifted from darky 10.1 to MIUI 7.7 and 100% to 30% in 3 hours with normal usage and no wifi .. after this app battery lasted for two complete days ... so try it
There is another MORE SERIOUS BUG in ALL GB ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134741
After full charge in GB, phone start using batteries ONLY instead of CHARGER ONLY like in Froyo and lower version builds.
Samsung folks goofed up BIG TIME by making phone use batteries instead of charger after full charge while stopping the charge cycle. Because of this OS thinks its running on CHARGER (or USB POWER) and shows batteries as full charge when in reality it runs on batteries after full charge and will eventually make the phone dead through full discharge of batteries.
You could test this by keeping the phone connected to the charger after full charge for a prolong period. When you disconnect, based on the usage during that time, the batteries will instantly show lower charge than around 100% (could be close to 0% as well depending on usage after full charge if you disconnect charger before phone going dead at 100% drain).
Did you flashed Darky in 100% battery? The tutorial suggest you to do that. You can try to wipe battery in recovery mode.
Hey everyone i bought One yesterday i updated 4.3 with ota after that unlocked and s-offed now im using " OrDroid 21.0.2" and i have really bad battery drain battery stats says "android system" causing that situation how can i solve that problem any ideas?
adakaya1994 said:
Hey everyone i bought One yesterday i updated 4.3 with ota after that unlocked and s-offed now im using " OrDroid 21.0.2" and i have really bad battery drain battery stats says "android system" causing that situation how can i solve that problem any ideas?
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If your phone is in idle state for a long time, there will be no third party apps running, only android OS, in the background. So, even if you loose 1% battery during the idle state, that will be cause of android OS, that is how it works. So Unless you are getting extremely low battery life, there is nothing to worry.
For example, suppose you left your phone for two hours and it drained 5% battery and Android System drained 80% of it, that means, Android system is 80% responsible for the 5% battery your phone lost, that means 80% of 5%drain=4%drain.
This means, for two hours, to keep your phone in idle state, Android system used 4% of battery. that isn't bad now , is it ?
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If your phone is in idle state for a long time, there will be no third party apps running, only android OS, in the background. So, even if you loose 1% battery during the idle state, that will be cause of android OS, that is how it works. So Unless you are getting extremely low battery life, there is nothing to worry.
For example, suppose you left your phone for two hours and it drained 5% battery and Android System drained 80% of it, that means, Android system is 80% responsible for the 5% battery your phone lost, that means 80% of 5%drain=4%drain.
This means, for two hours, to keep your phone in idle state, Android system used 4% of battery. that isn't bad now , is it ?
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You are right i guess.. :good: I'll give it couple of days and see how battery life is. Not satisfying for now anyway like %10 per hour or even worse.. Thanks for reply :highfive:
adakaya1994 said:
You are right i guess.. :good: I'll give it couple of days and see how battery life is. Not satisfying for now anyway like %10 per hour or even worse.. Thanks for reply :highfive:
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Since it is a new piece, give it a couple of charge cycles. once it stabilizes it will be good
I am litteraly getting about 5 hours of battery, with android system at 32% and android OS at 12%. What is wrong?
why dont you search for an answer in some of the other thousand of battery life threads?
and even with your given information (none) i guess no one is really able to help you.
but the Allrounder-hint seems to be a clean flash of the oos / factory reset to get a better battery life.. ive got at least 7 screen on time
aaronc_98 said:
I am litteraly getting about 5 hours of battery, with android system at 32% and android OS at 12%. What is wrong?
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The way the battery is calculated is different on 7.0 so System and OS will be higher. Also, I'm getting 6+hours SOT so you must have rogue apps draining.
So did anyone else get terrible batterylife with andeoid 10?
I went from 8h SOT to about 5h.
Am thinking of downgrading cause before it was the best phone ive ever had
There isn't 10 for my csc yet
Anybody else confirming bad battery life on 10?
how where you getting 8hours sot... i was getting 6 and now 5 but i do have a lot more idle cause of the quarantine
nekos95 said:
how where you getting 8hours sot... i was getting 6 and now 5 but i do have a lot more idle cause of the quarantine
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Wish I could tell you. All I know is it was the best battery I've seen. Was using it 'normally' and throughout 24 hours I got 7-8 hours battery life always, every single day for half a year. With music streaming for 1-2h, some browsing, location on, bluetooth on, and all apps like facebook, instagram etc. disabled.
Now I get 2 hours 20 mins and its already on 48%. Android 10 was a garbage and I wish I could downgrade without much hassle. I cannot find out what is draining the battery, there is no app. If I account for the apps it has used around 1000mah or less, which is 1/3rd, wihc would put me at around 70% - that would be my old battery life. But there is something else draining 20-30% battery and it is not shown in the battery reports, I am using accubatterry.
I really hate it, now I hate this phone
Battery draining mainly depends on how device is used, means how much CPU/GPU are stressed. Has NOTHING to do with Android OS itself: an OS is a piece of software, nothing else, an OS doesn't consume electric power. It are all the running apps/services - either running in foreground or in background, for example Location Providers & Google Play Services - that drain the battery, as also the activated hardware components like the screen, WiFi, GPS, SIM-cards, BlueTooth, etc.pp. even if device is in standby mode. It are the device's power management settings what control the behavior of Android phones that could affect the system's power consumption, such as adjusting lighting, handling the phone's sleep, and the wake-up, idle, turn-off timing, back lighting or display brightness of the device. It are the device implementers who define the related constants suitable to their devces, it's NOT Google , the developers of Android. With regards to Samsung S10 devices it's worldwide known that it has a very poor power management compared to others.
BTW: Since Android 9, the platform can monitor apps for behavior that negatively affects the battery life of devices.
No matter what you do to your device, it will never stop draining the battery.
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You have no idea what you are talking about and should stop wasting everyones time talking about that
So I simply reset my phone and I am back to 8h SOT and happy again.
3h42mins with 62% of the battery at like 8h usage
And after about 15h usage at 51% with 4h10mins SOT ?
I also got terrible battery life after the 10 upgrade.
What do you mean by reset? How?
Maveric-Romeo said:
I also got terrible battery life after the 10 upgrade.
What do you mean by reset? How?
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A simple factory reset, type reset in your settings in the search bar and do a factory reset.
It will delete everything, so make a backup before