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I honestly think it is far too sensitive. I just got my X today and I set it in my passenger seat to drive. The active display turned on about every 4 seconds because of the tiny bumps from driving. With the IR sensors turned on the display is turned on every time I set down my phone. I emailed Moto about making some kind of sensitivity setting. What do you guys think?
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I honestly think it is far too sensitive. I just got my X today and I set it in my passenger seat to drive. The active display turned on about every 4 seconds because of the tiny bumps from driving. With the IR sensors turned on the display is turned on every time I set down my phone. I emailed Moto about making some kind of sensitivity setting. What do you guys think?
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I wouldn't worry about it. It barely uses any power when it turns on because amoled. If it was an LCD screen, you bet I would be complaining
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I wouldn't worry about it. It barely uses any power when it turns on because amoled. If it was an LCD screen, you bet I would be complaining
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I'm not really worried about battery life so much as it just annoys me to see my screen constantly turn on. Well, partly.
I made it like the 2013 version. Shut off the hand motion sensors so now it only responds to movement of the device. MUCH better on battery
Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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2nd that, if I could turn off the movement sensor I would also. The gesture sensor works pretty great, the movement sensor is too sensitive.
Yeah, mine blinks on and off all the time regardless of notifications or not. Received an update the other day for the sensors and it didn't change anything.
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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I totally agree. IR only and no movement would be great. I have IR turned off right now and I wish it didn't annoy me to have both on. I paid for these fancy new IR sensors and I'm not even using them.
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Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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I know what you're talking about, the screen does flash if you have a notification. I can obviously tell I don't have one, just take your phone and tap the corner of it or set it on your couch and then sit down, your active display will turn on.
jdubya42 said:
I know what you're talking about, the screen does flash if you have a notification. I can obviously tell I don't have one, just take your phone and tap the corner of it or set it on your couch and then sit down, your active display will turn on.
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If you are worried about the phone activating the screen too frequently - I think having it upside down will prevent that. The active screen doesn't turn on when in a pocket, and I think that could also be said for being upside down on the car seat next to you.
jasoraso said:
If you are worried about the phone activating the screen too frequently - I think having it upside down will prevent that. The active screen doesn't turn on when in a pocket, and I think that could also be said for being upside down on the car seat next to you.
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I didn't think about that. Thanks for the suggestion.
I just got the phone last week and it’s always had a screen protector on it. I know many have issues with the proximity sensor covered but I don’t get how the phone should work. All my other phones turn off the display as you put the phone to your ear and on again if you move it away to look at something or end the call. The Nexus 6 just stays on until the screen time out and then I have to tap the power button to get the screen back.
I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?
Also, the Ambient display setting says it will turn on the display when you pick up the phone or get notifications. Never worked. ???
Bad phone, software or setting?
Thanks.
P.S. Why in God’s name are the volume buttons and to a lesser extent, the power button, dead center of the phone? I hit them every flipping time I pick it up. Is there a way to disable the volume buttons when the screen is off?
Tanquen said:
I just got the phone last week and it’s always had a screen protector on it. I know many have issues with it covered but I don’t get how the phone should work. All my other phones turn off the display as you put the phone to your ear and on again if you move it away to look at something or end the call. The Nexus 6 just stays on until the screen time out and then I have to tap the power button to get the screen back.
I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within inches or so and jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?
Also, the Ambient display setting says it will turn on the display when you pick up the phone or get notifications. Never worked. ???
Bad phone, software or setting?
Thanks.
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my suggestion would be to take your screen protector off. when you pull away from thd phone, the screen should pop on, but it not doung that for you. over the past 8 months or so, ive been reading about this same issue. and its always fixed by raking off the screen protector. im fuessing that your screen protector is covering one of your sensors.
Understood but:
"I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
Can someone without a screen protector on chime in with naked sensor readings?
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Understood but:
"I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
Can someone without a screen protector on chime in with naked sensor readings?
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Readings the same.
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Understood but:
"I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
Can someone without a screen protector on chime in with naked sensor readings?
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your phone has its own proximity sensor thats being blocked by your screen protector, probably. im telling you that of the very many that have been reporting thus issue, have no more issue when they remove the screen protector. its worth a try, isnt it?
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your phone has its own proximity sensor thats being blocked by your screen protector, probably. im telling you that of the very many that have been reporting thus issue, have no more issue when they remove the screen protector. its worth a try, isnt it?
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His screen is staying on tho. Usually with screen protector it stays off.
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His screen is staying on tho. Usually with screen protector it stays off.
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for most ppl it stays off, a few that ive read stay on non stop.
for example.. if it doesnt "see" your face get close, it wont turn off the screen.
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for most ppl it stays off, a few that ive read stay on non stop.
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Kewl. He needs to make sure ambient display is on in display settings. Also the buttons are in middle of phone so you can reach them holding phone normally.
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... its worth a try, isnt it?
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Yea, but the protector would not be usable afterwards and it was really hard to get it on clean and lined up and the sensor readings are the same. I thought the folks that had problems had stuck or sporadic readings.
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for most ppl it stays off, a few that ive read stay on non stop.
for example.. if it doesnt "see" your face get close, it wont turn off the screen.
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Mine can be toggled on and off with the power button, never gets stuck. It just acts like the proximity sensor mode during a call never activates. It only powers off after the normal screen timeout if you are still on the phone. The sensor does see me and sets the value the zero.
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Kewl. He needs to make sure ambient display is on in display settings. Also the buttons are in middle of phone so you can reach them holding phone normally.
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It’s on, even tried toggling it.
The buttons should be higher. I understand you can’t reach the power button on larger phones if on top of the phone but putting the volume at the center of gravity is crazy. It’s actually noticeably difficult to hold the phone without it dipping when grabbing it lower and that’s after training myself to grab it lower. I still forget and grab it in the middle like any brick sized object. I'm old, hands weak.
I have read here, somewhere, that the proximity sensor does not have a variable output. It's either off or on, so to speak.
Larzzzz82 said:
I have read here, somewhere, that the proximity sensor does not have a variable output. It's either off or on, so to speak.
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Probably yes but everyone who had a screen protector without a sensor cut out had to change it for one with a sensor cut out.
This is step 1. Even if this isn't the cause, it will cause problems later.
You say not variable. Sure on or off. That said, a protector can limit how close the "close" reference can be identified at.
Step 2 is a factory reset.
Unfortunately, can't troubleshooting without doing these steps.
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I have read here, somewhere, that the proximity sensor does not have a variable output. It's either off or on, so to speak.
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That is my understanding also and someone posted above that they have the same readings from the sensor without a screen protector. They did not say but I’m assuming their phone works as it should when on a call. Again: "I installed a proximity sensor app (Proximity Sensor Finder) and it seems to work fine though I don’t know what the readings would be without the screen protector covering it. It shows 5.000305cm until my hand gets within two inches or so and it jumps to 0. The app says some sensors are discrete so seems ok and the readings are very consistent and fast. So why is the screen not turning off?"
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Probably yes but everyone who had a screen protector without a sensor cut out had to change it for one with a sensor cut out.
This is step 1. Even if this isn't the cause, it will cause problems later.
You say not variable. Sure on or off. That said, a protector can limit how close the "close" reference can be identified at.
Step 2 is a factory reset.
Unfortunately, can't troubleshooting without doing these steps.
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I know, I know. I’ve read that many have had issues with screen protectors but I thought the folks that checked saw that the proximity sensor readings were also bad. Mine seem to be just what the phone would want to see.
I will take it off at some point and I guess I’ll be the first to verify that even if you use an app to monitor the proximity sensor readings and they look normal the protector can still cause an issue or it is something else.
I did find that the Ambient display will not work without screen lock turned on.
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I did find that the Ambient display will not work without screen lock turned on.
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True, because it needs a lock screen to display it.
The screen worked as it should randomly the other day. Only on the one call. I pulled the phone away to look at something and it turned the screen on. Put it to my ear and what do you know, it turned the screen off. Not worked again so far and I ran the sensor app right after the call and it showed just what it always has, zero. Anything close to the phone you get a zero every time, right away. The phone app just ignores the zero reading.
I am thinking about buying a Nokia 7 Plus but one thing is really bugging me.
I am currently using the OnePlus 2 which has a Notification LED and I have gotten quite used to it and I'm not very happy to give it up. The Ambient Screen might be an alternative for me but one thing about it is bugging me. It takes advantage of the face that OLED screen don't use any power to display black. But the 7 Plus uses an LCD.
So how much of a battery issue is using the Ambient Screen with this phone?
the Nokia 7 Plus does not have a always on display. the screen lights up if you get a message or pick up your phone
Yes like what they guy above said and the battery usage is minimal at best
You will get used to live without that led. It took couple days to get used just take phone to hand and it'll show you your notifications.
vahtmestar said:
You will get used to live without that led. It took couple days to get used just take phone to hand and it'll show you your notifications.
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I agree. I do not miss led notification that much either. I used to have Huawei P10 before with a tiny led which was in fact unusable in daylight anyway, therefore I find picking up this Nokia phone to hand shortly more than I liked the crappy led on P10.
Is it any specific movement of the phone that will make the screen come on? Does it happen when walking for instance with the phone in your pocket?
yes, the phone needs to lay down on a table frist and you need to lift it up. The screen lights up then.
I doubt this happens when the phone is in your pocket.
Tequila.CZ said:
yes, the phone needs to lay down on a table frist and you need to lift it up. The screen lights up then.
I doubt this happens when the phone is in your pocket.
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It happends. When I grab it from pocket it turns ambient screen on.
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Is it any specific movement of the phone that will make the screen come on? Does it happen when walking for instance with the phone in your pocket?
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if you walking without somersault then ambiend is not activated
is need specific movement, from desk pick up to face, or from pocket to hand, in fact needed moving about 90 degress
The phone uses the proximity sensor with the ambient display, so if phone is in pocket, then it won't be activated unless you pull it out of your pocket, and it doesn't need any specific movement, any movement will trigger it on
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[...]uses the proximity sensor[...]
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you're right... then is also possible walk with somersault
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it doesn't need any specific movement, any movement will trigger it on
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but this is not true, if you take out phone from pocket/case with movement only in one axis, then ambient is not activated...
Does it have the feature like the moto display, where you can wave above the screen to make ambient display light up and show notifications without touching the screen?
No it doesn't unfortunately – and this feature was borrowed from Nokia on the glance screen introduced in the WP8 era. I was too looking for a comeback on my Nokia 7 Plus.
On a side note – any possible hack to have this ambient display always on? My Lumia 1020 has an LCD screen and has glance screen that can be configured to be always on, so it's not technically impossible. It just consumes more battery, but I like to see the notification status and the clock at a glance without having to touch or hover anything.
Disinto said:
any possible hack to have this ambient display always on?
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wait to end(?) of august for P upgrade, in P DP4 this feature is already native (btw:i have DP4, but not enable this, then not know what this drain battery)
did anyone notice the Always on Display dims, but doesn't turn off when turned face-down or put in your pocket?
Yes and looks as though that is how it will always be now. I read an article about how they did proximity sensor on this phone. The process sensor causes a white light to blink when it's on so it is only used when on a call.
Wait ... So the ALWAYS ON display is on ALWAYS and that's a problem??? Hmmmm
Try Gravity Screen.
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Yes and looks as though that is how it will always be now. I read an article about how they did proximity sensor on this phone. The process sensor causes a white light to blink when it's on so it is only used when on a call.
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This is bull s h i t! WTH!!
Yea, I was looking into this. The "behind the glass" proximity sensor isonly on when in calls etc. You'l see it's on by the flashing white dot near the battery icon when in a call etc. All other times it seems it's off. So AOD is always on as it doesn't use the proximity sensor any longer.
Really stupid on their part.
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Yea, I was looking into this. The "behind the glass" proximity sensor isonly on when in calls etc. You'l see it's on by the flashing white dot near the battery icon when in a call etc. All other times it seems it's off. So AOD is always on as it doesn't use the proximity sensor any longer.
Really stupid on their part.
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I agree, Also I used the lift to call when in a persons sms thread in the stock messages app, now that does not work either because of this.... I can't find an option to turn it on. Never had an option on my prior galaxys as it just worked...
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Wait ... So the ALWAYS ON display is on ALWAYS and that's a problem??? Hmmmm
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Yes because I want it always on WHEN I CAN SEE IT, not when it's in my pocket.
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Have you tried it for this case?
This sucks... Only way I understand this it's that they decided that AOD and proximity sensor always on consume almost the same amount of battery.
I cover the proximity sensor on s9+ and turn off AOD in 30sec and then i try that on my s10+ and nothing happened and for now i turn it off because is all the time active.
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My phone doesn't arrive until tomorrow so I have no report but, I am wondering if anyone has noticed accidental screen on in pocket or seen a setting to prevent. Older Galaxy phones had a setting to prevent this which relied on proximity sensor.
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My phone doesn't arrive until tomorrow so I have no report but, I am wondering if anyone has noticed accidental screen on in pocket or seen a setting to prevent. Older Galaxy phones had a setting to prevent this which relied on proximity sensor.
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Accidental touch is still an option on the S10, i have mine enabled but it never turns AOD off. It doesn't work like before. I'm hoping they can fix this as its getting on my nerves that I have to keep disabling AOD when leaving in my bag else it'll stay on wasting battery for nothing.
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So basically if I use a wallet folio case then then AOD doesnt turn off when I close the cover?
What would be causing this?
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So basically if I use a wallet folio case then then AOD doesnt turn off when I close the cover?
What would be causing this?
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Probably need to be connected with proximity sensor but this time is under the screen who knows.
I just ran the Samsung inbuilt test *#0#* , there is no test under Sensors for the proximity sensor for this model, if I'm not mistaken other Galaxy devices did have this specific sub test under Sensors test menu
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I feel there is no proximity sensor in this phone..
Becuase while i am on call , even though the screen is touched to my ear , it will light up randomly as i am walking and turning.
Is that function managed by accelerometer and gyroscope as in new redmi phones ?
The autobrightness is also acting weird for me in some cases .
aj7400 said:
I feel there is no proximity sensor in this phone..
Becuase while i am on call , even though the screen is touched to my ear , it will light up randomly as i am walking and turning.
Is that function managed by accelerometer and gyroscope as in new redmi phones ?
The autobrightness is also acting weird for me in some cases .
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It doesn't do so for me but yes if I move my face when talking the screen turns on but then goes back off immediately. It seems that proximity sensor is managed by the accelerometer combined with ai just like it was in my old OnePlus 7Pro. However, I could be totally wrong!
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It doesn't do so for me but yes if I move my face when talking the screen turns on but then goes back off immediately. It seems that proximity sensor is managed by the accelerometer combined with ai just like it was in my old OnePlus 7Pro. However, I could be totally wrong!
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While on call I tried to use another phone`s camera to search for proximity sensor ( it is ir based , so camera picks it up).
But couldnt find it
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While on call I tried to use another phone`s camera to search for proximity sensor ( it is ir based , so camera picks it up).
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So then, my suspicions are right..It's accelerometer+ai
I think it uses the camera too. If you try unlock the phone with the selfie camera covered, it will try to prevent it.
Likewise, if you make a call with your phone placed flat on a surface, you can get the screen to turn off by covering the camera.
adamlee2012 said:
Yes it has one. It's near the light sensor... They are both under the display.
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I dont think it has .
Even when i am on call , phone just touching my ear , it randomly lets the screen turn on .
Also as far as i remember , always on display in the previous generations used to turn off when the phone was in pocket ( or screen was covered)
But here , the aod always remains on regardless if phone is in pocket or outside .
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I’ve just tested mine during phone call. It’s definitely there… I’ve seen it.
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Yes you are right. It has an ir based one like note 10,20, s10, s20...
Samsung probably is wondering if they should make it invisible with no indicator. That tiny flashing circle has caused more commotion than a midget hooker in the playpen. Every new model provokes this same discussion... talk about a fixation
Using the camera sensor be prohibitive because of power consumption. It would still need an IR emitter to work properly. Net zero gain... and a lot of added complexity at best.
You can test the light sensor with CPU-Z, cover the space to the right of the front camera, that's also what triggers display dimming no matter what adaptive brightness settings you have.
my S20 FE does the same thing on calls. super irritating... i wonder if Samsung will correct the SD card slot omission mistake on the S22. they did the same thing with the S6 and fixed it on the S7
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You can test the light sensor with CPU-Z, cover the space to the right of the front camera, that's also what triggers display dimming no matter what adaptive brightness settings you have.
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The light sensor is there , itried with cpuz , but i feel the proximity sensor does not work properly .
It wakes up the screen during calls