Android Pie RAM management - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Is it an improvement on Oreo or worse? I have read that it's worse on some other phones.
I never found the Note 8 on Oreo to have particularly great RAM management to say that it has 6GB of RAM (which at launch was pretty good).

I have been using Pie on my N950N and I think ram management is more or less on par with Oreo.

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RAMDISK possible??

Our Oneplus 3T comes with a whopping 6GB of RAM. And for an average person the average RAM usage is about 3GB, leaving 3-2GB of RAM free. My idea/question is to the developers, that is it possible to treat RAM as a disk? That is can we treat part of it to store apps that are stored in the internal storage? The advantage is that we will get blazing fast performance because the apps will be in RAM itself(and average speed of RAM in GBps as compared to that of UFS which is in MBps). I know 3T is already fast, but it will be an amazing feature.
In theory it's possible, but it will likely never be done because of the huge disadvantage that anything on it would be lost upon rebooting. Also, disk caching already happens and I/O isn't always the bottleneck, so the performance gains wouldn't even be as great as you're thinking.

RAM management

My only criticism with the N8 is RAM management. I moved from the Xperia XZ with 3GB of RAM and purposefully went for a device with 6GB because of reloads. Yet my N8 reloads the sites and apps in question every bit as much. I read that he N8 had much better RAM management with Nougat, is this so?*
My N950F 128 GB model almost never reloads, it only reloads when I execute device maintainance, which clears ram and all cached non essential stuff
I'm on Nougat and mine reloads after opening just two other apps briefly, or one app when using it extensively. Having 6 GB of RAM has had no improvement in this regard over the phones I've had with 2 gb of RAM.
I wish we could dedicate a certain amount of RAM to a few of our most used apps.
I never understood how the phone could use nearly 3.5 gigs of ram for background processes.
It would appear that there is no benefit when using a phone with 6GB versus a phone with 3 or 4GB. What a shame. A massive waste of multitasking possibilities.
You guys do realize free ram is wasted ram on android....
Since android 5.0 Ram management has gotten so much better..So what if you only have say 1 gb free Thats a good thing you are utilizing what you got...Nothing beats a good reboot once every couple days clear it out.Ram managers are a waste of battery...
https://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Good article on RAM and what's stored and used in it.
TheMadScientist said:
You guys do realize free ram is wasted ram on android....
Since android 5.0 Ram management has gotten so much better..So what if you only have say 1 gb free Thats a good thing you are utilizing what you got...Nothing beats a good reboot once every couple days clear it out.Ram managers are a waste of battery...
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That doesn't explain why my 6GB N8 reloads just as badly as my 3GB Xperia XZ. It holds hardly anything in memory before reloading/refreshing. I love the phone but specifically got it for the RAM which in my experience is kinda for show. It doesn't improve anything.
Well, I agree with you being so upset about YOUR particular note 8 behaving as a 3 gb ram device or worse, but my device reloads only sometimes, not all the time, I usually have some 800-1000 mb of free ram, in device maintainance I have some 60 apps unmonitored and 194 to always sleeping untill I run them
Use eternal process lock.. Its an xposed module.. It will lock the app and it will not be killed.
winol said:
Well, I agree with you being so upset about YOUR particular note 8 behaving as a 3 gb ram device or worse, but my device reloads only sometimes, not all the time, I usually have some 800-1000 mb of free ram, in device maintainance I have some 60 apps unmonitored and 194 to always sleeping untill I run them
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It doesn't reload all the time, it just reloads the same apps with the same frequency that my Xperia XZ did. It must be down to Android ram management rather than the amount of RAM itself.

Question New weekly changes on latest 21.7.21 CN/Xiaomi.eu Rom

Have you guys tried the new SWAP on WEEKLY 21.7.21 rom?
It supposed to decrease 5º celsius under load and decrease throttling and battery consumption.
CHANGELOG
System
New - Xiaomi.eu recovery ROM for Mi 11 Lite 5G (renoir)
New - Enabled "Memory extension (SWAP)" feature [Snapdragon 888/870/865 devices]
System launcher
Fix - Uninstalling apps using drag-and-drop was not working in drawer mode
EDIT: from what i gather it's supposed to increase your RAM by creating Virtual RAM using your UFS3.1 Storage, also decrease/use around 3gb of storage space like windows pagefile.
xwonic said:
Have you guys tried the new SWAP on WEEKLY 21.7.21 rom?
It supposed to decrease 5º celsius under load and decrease throttling and battery consumption.
CHANGELOG
System
New - Xiaomi.eu recovery ROM for Mi 11 Lite 5G (renoir)
New - Enabled "Memory extension (SWAP)" feature [Snapdragon 888/870/865 devices]
System launcher
Fix - Uninstalling apps using drag-and-drop was not working in drawer mode
EDIT: from what i gather it's supposed to increase your RAM by creating Virtual RAM using your UFS3.1 Storage, also decrease/use around 3gb of storage space like windows pagefile.
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It actually does not increase your ram and is only used if you are out of ram, Considering the vast majority of phones have anywhere from 6GB - 12GB ram and the average user in all actuality uses no more than four, this is just a useless gimmick that will take up space on your sd card/internal storage and won't give you any performance boost whatsoever.
Back in the day, when phones only had 1-3GB ram, we would root our phones and use these swap files to help with opening files and running apps, but that isn't necessary in today's smartphone world.
jim262 said:
It actually does not increase your ram and is only used if you are out of ram, Considering the vast majority of phones have anywhere from 6GB - 12GB ram and the average user in all actuality uses no more than four, this is just a useless gimmick that will take up space on your sd card/internal storage and won't give you any performance boost whatsoever.
Back in the day, when phones only had 1-3GB ram, we would root our phones and use these swap files to help with opening files and running apps, but that isn't necessary in today's smartphone world.
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I dont think so cause its only for snap 865 870 and 888 and all smartphone with these cpu have 6gb+
xwonic said:
I dont think so cause its only for snap 865 870 and 888 and all smartphone with these cpu have 6gb+
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Its built in to all MIUI, but only benefits phones with four or less GB of ram. Let me ask you, your phone has 12GB or ram and the average user only uses 4GB ram, how is this going to benefit you in any way?
How Much RAM Does a Smartphone Need?
Every smartphone needs memory, but just how much RAM does a smartphone actually need to work properly?
www.makeuseof.com
jim262 said:
Its built in to all MIUI, but only benefits phones with four or less GB of ram. Let me ask you, your phone has 12GB or ram and the average user only uses 4GB ram, how is this going to benefit you in any way?
How Much RAM Does a Smartphone Need?
Every smartphone needs memory, but just how much RAM does a smartphone actually need to work properly?
www.makeuseof.com
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You need to understand how it works. It merely creates a swap file on your internal storage and with the amount of ram flagship phones have (the Mi 11 Ultra has 12GB), it will never, ever be used, but it will take up space on your internal storage, that you could use for other more important things, like pictures, videos, music, games, etc...
Well definitely is not a feature for flagships,
xNAPx said:
Well definitely is not a feature for flagships,
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Not a feature for any phone with greater than 4GB ram.
Indeed

Question Need recommendations for Note 10 pro 8gb vs 6gb

Hey, i am planning to purchase Redmi note 10 pro. Should I go for 8gb ram or 6gb ram variant?
Is 6gb ram varient enough for fb, whatsapp, content consumption? (Not gaming much)
Although this device has wide range of custom rom support. Is there any benefits for having 8gb ram while using custom rom in future?
sure, 6gb is more than enough. eventhough a lot of unused apps are still cached, i got 700mb free
First of all, you can go with 6GB RAM if do not play much games! And I suggest you to buy Redmi Note 10 Pro, because I am using this device myself.
Overall the device is loaded with great features.
But due to MIUI lagging issue, I moved to Pixel-UI. And I also use G-Cam for the highest resolution images.
As a high expectation user, I must say that, use the Redmi Note 10 Pro with Pixel-UI and G-Cam for the highest performance and smooth using.
And yes, with the 6GB of RAM variant is enough for medium use like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.

Question Spesn, very slow and laggy. Any fix?

Previously I was using Samsung A 70 and note 11 is like two times slower in general performance. Everything feels worse. UI responsiveness, animations, app loading, app performance etc.
Yes, it's 4 GiB ram for Xiaomi and 8 GiB for Samsung. But I don't expect it would matter so much especially since it never uses more than 70% of those 4 GiB (with swap disabled).
I tried to use MIUI.eu but no real difference. Is it really all down to ram or it's defective piece?
After few months I got so feed up that I went back to Samsung and now it feels like real upgrade. Any tips?
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