Apps getting closed when phone goes into sleep. - Samsung Galaxy S10 Questions & Answers

I've tried everything I can think of to keep the apps from being closed when the phone goes into deep sleep. Turned off app battery optimizations, turned off "put apps to sleep" turned it on and set it for 7 days. Locked apps in recents and they still get closed. Anyone else seeing this? S10 Plus 12gb here so there shouldn't be an issue. Ideas?

I'm having the same issue. S10 here. Done the same things, Dropbox goes offline, Skype and other apps.

Is this like an overnight issue? Because there's a by default setting that will close all apps at 3 in the morning to optimize the device... If it's not happening overnight then you might want to look into other causes - although deep sleep itself shouldn't have any effect on apps.

Turned off that optimization setting, seems mostly games get closed when going into deep sleep. Really annoying because I have all that ram to spare.

Chengbyarmbar said:
Turned off that optimization setting, seems mostly games get closed when going into deep sleep. Really annoying because I have all that ram to spare.
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Which optimization setting you turned off?

denzel09 said:
Which optimization setting you turned off?
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Everyone I could find. Auto optimization off, adaptive battery off, put unused apps to sleep off

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Why does not Note get into sleep mode?

I have a galaxy note, upgraded to the last version of 2.3.6 (JPLA1).
After upgrade i relized that the battery life has decreased. Then i made a factory reset. However, my phone does not stay in deep sleep mode very long. Actually it stays awake during whole night.
What could be the cause of this problem???
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ardicli2000 said:
I have a galaxy note, upgraded to the last version of 2.3.6 (JPLA1).
After upgrade i relized that the battery life has decreased. Then i made a factory reset. However, my phone does not stay in deep sleep mode very long. Actually it stays awake during whole night.
What could be the cause of this problem???
I have taken screen shots, attached...
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the best although a bit demanding way is to check with BetterBatteryStats,
you could also try disabling not-absolutely-necessary features (GPS, some data syncs etc.) to check which decreases battery consumption,
there's also Autorun Manager with which you can disable unnecessary startup apps (lots of them are set to autorun after device start, some may try to update over the net too frequently)
I wonder what firmware you're on... mine (LB1) shows wifi status on the summary screen as well. my phone used to stay awake all night too, until I started turning off wifi for the night (FYI, I shut down the cell data connection when I arrive home, so it's not on for the night either)
leppo said:
I wonder what firmware you're on... mine (LB1) shows wifi status on the summary screen as well. my phone used to stay awake all night too, until I started turning off wifi for the night (FYI, I shut down the cell data connection when I arrive home, so it's not on for the night either)
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Mine is LA1.
And my wifi is off as well as data connection during the night.
Also i realized something wierd. If i activate 3g, Android OS drains battery more than 70% percent. If i activate 2g, then Android OS drains only 10-15%. DAta connection is on for both. There could be a problem with the LA1 kernel maybe but i am not sure.
From what i've read, while (really) sleeping, the note shouldn't take more than 5%, and that seems normal/logical to me. But in my case, it drains 70% and it seems even in plane mode, i just don't get it...
p107r0 said:
the best although a bit demanding way is to check with BetterBatteryStats,
you could also try disabling not-absolutely-necessary features (GPS, some data syncs etc.) to check which decreases battery consumption,
there's also Autorun Manager with which you can disable unnecessary startup apps (lots of them are set to autorun after device start, some may try to update over the net too frequently)
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+1 betterbatterystats
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Try disabling Fast Dormancy, it does generate wakelocks on my SGN as my network doesn't support the feature.
Dial *#*#9900#*#* and select "Disable fast dormancy".
That's good for reducing some wakelocks anyway.
knightnz said:
Try disabling Fast Dormancy, it does generate wakelocks on my SGN as my network doesn't support the feature.
Dial *#*#9900#*#* and select "Disable fast dormancy".
That's good for reducing some wakelocks anyway.
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If I dial that the phone just dials that number. Did I do something wrong here?
lukabike said:
If I dial that the phone just dials that number. Did I do something wrong here?
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I tried it and it worked as expected. Are you entering the full string (both numbers & symbols) on the default phone dialer?
*#*#9900#*#*
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+1 betterbatterystats
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I installed betterbatterystats but i did not get it very much.
Should i check something or change some of the settings?
or the program does what is necessary by itself?
I think this is not the case because my phone still does not enter into sleep mode.
@knightnz
I disabled fast dormancy. But i like to ask something.
What is fast dormancy?
Edit: I checked my phone now. There left 75% battery after 10 hours less than normal use. Data and 3g is on. However i unchecked "backup my data". I think this made me gain 10 hours of battery life
BadAss Battery Monitor (free)
Press menu and "App sucker". Go to "wake ups" or something like that. Let the phone run in standby for some while before checking. I bet it's an app that won't go to sleep.
I used to get this quite often but I found a way to stop it. Basically when i disconnected the charger when the screen was off the phone always stayed awake the only way to put it back to normal was to reset the cache in download mode. So i tried disconnecting the charger after putting the screen on first ( unlock phone) and it never happened again.
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LordManhattan said:
BadAss Battery Monitor (free)
Press menu and "App sucker". Go to "wake ups" or something like that. Let the phone run in standby for some while before checking. I bet it's an app that won't go to sleep.
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I have installed BetterBatterStats. When i checked partial wakelocks, the higher count is for AlarmManager (Android System). And the higher percentage (0,5%) is for PowerAMP.
Does this mean anything?
May i ask, how many % does your note consume every x hours? Making a report with your kernel/rom would be good, don't you think? Maybe a poll?

No deep sleep -> how to identify the cause?

Hey guys --
I did a search and while there is much discussion of deep sleep problems, there is no clear way I could easily find to identify the cause.
I have CM7.20, the MiRaGe latest build on my NC, with the settings listed in my thread (see the sig). Recently I noticed that it is not entering into deep sleep, indicated by losing ~20% battery while it is asleep overnight in about 8 hrs. Battery results tell me it's "WiFi" taking like 30% of the battery, which seems quite odd, since I had it set to turn off WiFi while the screen off unless connected to the charger.
Any clues on how to identify the problem with deep sleep?
As for usage, I am using my NC 99% of the time with the following apps:
Moon+ Reader (probably 70% of time)
YouVersion Bible app (most of the rest of the time)
Dolphin Browser HD (maybe 2% of the time)
Enhanced Email and MailDroid - very occasionally but they are checking mail on 15 min intervals when wifi is on.
I have a ton of other apps installed but I almost never use them except for these.
Any help on how to determine what is causing the NC to not go into deep sleep will be immensely helpful. I have a 2-week Euro business trip coming up next month and I would really like to solve this before then.
Thanks!
Better Battery Stats might help. Try turning off sync before bed and see if you still lose 20%. If so, it's definitely some app that's the culprit. Grab something that will tell you what program is using data and how much/how often and you should be able to isolate it pretty quick.
mr72 said:
Hey guys --
I did a search and while there is much discussion of deep sleep problems, there is no clear way I could easily find to identify the cause.
I have CM7.20, the MiRaGe latest build on my NC, with the settings listed in my thread (see the sig). Recently I noticed that it is not entering into deep sleep, indicated by losing ~20% battery while it is asleep overnight in about 8 hrs. Battery results tell me it's "WiFi" taking like 30% of the battery, which seems quite odd, since I had it set to turn off WiFi while the screen off unless connected to the charger.
Any clues on how to identify the problem with deep sleep?
As for usage, I am using my NC 99% of the time with the following apps:
Moon+ Reader (probably 70% of time)
YouVersion Bible app (most of the rest of the time)
Dolphin Browser HD (maybe 2% of the time)
Enhanced Email and MailDroid - very occasionally but they are checking mail on 15 min intervals when wifi is on.
I have a ton of other apps installed but I almost never use them except for these.
Any help on how to determine what is causing the NC to not go into deep sleep will be immensely helpful. I have a 2-week Euro business trip coming up next month and I would really like to solve this before then.
Thanks!
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envygreen said:
Better Battery Stats might help. Try turning off sync before bed and see if you still lose 20%. If so, it's definitely some app that's the culprit. Grab something that will tell you what program is using data and how much/how often and you should be able to isolate it pretty quick.
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OK, but it should be turning off wifi, and therefore sync for ALL apps, when it is asleep. Can an app override this setting? That's my guess, is some app is doing this. How can I ID that?
mr72 said:
OK, but it should be turning off wifi, and therefore sync for ALL apps, when it is asleep. Can an app override this setting? That's my guess, is some app is doing this. How can I ID that?
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Like envygreen said use that app to track wakelocks. Even if wifi is off, some app may be applying a wakelock to try to sync.
leapinlar said:
Like envygreen said use that app to track wakelocks. Even if wifi is off, some app may be applying a wakelock to try to sync.
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Alright, I'm on it
So last night I finished charging it and read for a couple of minutes, then put it to sleep to see how it went overnight.
My Wi-Fi sleep policy is set to turn off wifi when the display is off.
When I got up this morning I checked it and it had lost over 10% battery over night, and I checked BetterBatteryStats and I think it is going into deep sleep but maybe not shutting off wifi.
I have attached the screenshots from BetterBatteryStats, and I think I need help interpreting them and finding the cause.
ok, so here I am replying to my own thread... If I am reading this right it seems to be looking like my wifi is on the entire time, not only when the screen is on. Is this the right way to read this? In this case, it looks like "Wi-Fi sleep policy" being set to "When screen turns off" is not actually working... right?
mr72 said:
ok, so here I am replying to my own thread... If I am reading this right it seems to be looking like my wifi is on the entire time, not only when the screen is on. Is this the right way to read this? In this case, it looks like "Wi-Fi sleep policy" being set to "When screen turns off" is not actually working... right?
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It sure looks that way to me too. It says wifi on 8 hours. Did you try toggling the setting a few times? Also you are on Mirage and he may have done something in his tinkering that messed that setting up.
leapinlar said:
It sure looks that way to me too. It says wifi on 8 hours. Did you try toggling the setting a few times? Also you are on Mirage and he may have done something in his tinkering that messed that setting up.
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yeah I did toggle the setting on and off, and in fact before I had it set to "On during sleep if plugged" for a long time, recently changed it, thinking maybe this was the cause.
But it does appear that maybe this is what is killing the battery. There doesn't appear to be any network activity when the screen is off, just looks like the wifi radio is powered up.
Any advice?
mr72 said:
yeah I did toggle the setting on and off, and in fact before I had it set to "On during sleep if plugged" for a long time, recently changed it, thinking maybe this was the cause.
But it does appear that maybe this is what is killing the battery. There doesn't appear to be any network activity when the screen is off, just looks like the wifi radio is powered up.
Any advice?
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Switch to CM7.2 stable?
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Switch to CM7.2 stable?
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Hmm. that seems like an extreme step, but maybe ... wonder how much of the snappiness I will lose.
EDIT: OK I switched to CM7.2 stable. Nice I didn't seem to lose any settings. Let's see how it goes. Thanks for the advice, I'll report back here if it still does the same thing.
Also uninstalled beautiful widgets... figured maybe that could be causing an issue.
Oh, and I probably had a SOD kernel patch applied... perhaps that was the problem too
guess I should change only one variable at a time for a good test, but in reality I just want to get it fixed and not really diagnose it.
I was having a similar problem...what I did was run the V6 supercharger script, granted i am running CM9 atm but it took care of any problems I had with battery life and wifi signal.
Question: does having WiFi on keep the phone from going into deep sleep at all?
I have found that my phone is not going into deep sleep. I checked what is holding wake locks, and the time with wake locks is way less than the time the phone has the screen off, so it appears it is not deep sleeping, even though there are not wake locks.
I have an extended battery, so I get good battery life, but always interested in improving it. But I also have this thought that if I have to turn everything off, and only synch when I turn the screen on, that is not ideal either.
ewingr said:
Question: does having WiFi on keep the phone from going into deep sleep at all?
I have found that my phone is not going into deep sleep. I checked what is holding wake locks, and the time with wake locks is way less than the time the phone has the screen off, so it appears it is not deep sleeping, even though there are not wake locks.
I have an extended battery, so I get good battery life, but always interested in improving it. But I also have this thought that if I have to turn everything off, and only synch when I turn the screen on, that is not ideal either.
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Get CpuSpy free on play store. It will tell you exactly how much deep sleep you are getting.
Having wifi on all the time should not prevent deep sleep. Only when things use it does it come out of deep sleep.
leapinlar said:
Get CpuSpy free on play store. It will tell you exactly how much deep sleep you are getting.
Having wifi on all the time should not prevent deep sleep. Only when things use it does it come out of deep sleep.
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I have CPUSpy Free, and that is how I know I am not getting deep sleep. My challenge now is to identify why.
OK, so it seems that CM7.20 stable definitely fixes things. I didn't flash the SOD fix, so maybe the SOD fix was preventing deep sleep before, or maybe something else in the kang build was preventing deep sleep with wifi on when the screen is on.
However the better battery stats still seems to say my wifi is never actually going off. I am not sure I am interpreting the results correctly. It looks like the wifi is on all the time even though it's set to turn off when the screen is off. But I can let the NC sit on my night stand overnight and lose only a couple of % where it was like 10+% before. I still think my problem was due to some app that updated and not the ROM because the problem started weeks after I last updated the ROM.

Exynos Note 9 screen off battery drain (not entering deep sleep)

Hello!
I've owned a N960F for about 2 months now and recently I'm dealing with extremely high screen off battery drain. Looking at the stats offered by the battery tab in device care I am unable to pinpoint the cause.
Furthermore, accubattery shows very low deep sleep time. Last night it managed to achieve an incredible amount of deep sleep of 0 minutes and drain 12% in just 5h 20 minutes of screen off time.
Screen on time is not a problem, while using the phone the battery usage is normal and I am pleased by it's performance, but it is greatly affected by the screen of consumption.
Does anyone have an idea what might be causing the device to not enter deep sleep mode? Or how to find out what the problem could be that makes it use up so much juice?
Thanks in advance!
Screenshots (the accubattery is from yesterday, while the device care one I screenshot just now):
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...25/Screenshot_20190712-024601_AccuBattery.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...05728/Screenshot_20190712-030220_Settings.jpg
Difficult to tell, possibility is an app in the background preventing deep sleep.
When you use device care and then select battery, followed by settings you get a further screen of options, you may be aware of this.
I have used these settings, it might help.
An alternative approach is to uninstall an app to see if the phone then goes into deep sleep
paul_59 said:
Difficult to tell, possibility is an app in the background preventing deep sleep.
When you use device care and then select battery, followed by settings you get a further screen of options, you may be aware of this.
I have used these settings, it might help.
An alternative approach is to uninstall an app to see if the phone then goes into deep sleep
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I can't seem to pinpoint any app that could cause this problem and my settings were already as shown in your screenshots
jd14771 said:
i found a wierd bug recently. If you're google account has a sync error, like gmail, contacts, messages, ECT.. it will not enter deep sleep.
go to settings>accounts&backup>accounts> Google account>sync account>
Do you see anything with a circle formed by two arrows? those items can't snyc in the background for some reason. usually because the phone has put the app to sleep, optimized it, or restricted background data access. turns out my contacts arent syncing right now, glad i checked.
use this to try and help troubleshoot if you need help.
https://www.unlockunit.com/blog/google-contacts-not-syncing-need/
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this might actually have been it, I found a weird Office account that was not syncing (I don't even remember adding it) and I removed it, I'll update if it has fixed the issue
jd14771 said:
for me, the problem was that my Contacts app was set to non-optimized ect ect... but the googlecontactsbackup app was set to optimized. I didn't even know that apps could have dependencies that show up as other apps. (i installed google contacts to replace samsung's people app).
i went from 1%-1.5% drain per hour, too .5% drain. significant change for me since im already heavily debloated.. thanks for making me look that deep lol. this is why people prefer iphones i suppose.
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Are you debloat with adb and console?
Which apps disabled?
I think that Note 9 exynos have problem with consumming battery in sleep mode.
My N9 always "drain" 3-4 % in night after little debloat but A5 without debloat and with more apps consumming only 1-0% per night.

P30 pro overnight standby drain!!

Hi,
I have a Canadian p30 pro with videotron i have good signal all the time however my battery drain so much overnight its insane! Close to 20% i tried greenify that didn't help... Any suggestions on how to solve this? Im on Emui 9.1 thank you
shahkam said:
Hi,
I have a Canadian p30 pro with videotron i have good signal all the time however my battery drain so much overnight its insane! Close to 20% i tried greenify that didn't help... Any suggestions on how to solve this? Im on Emui 9.1 thank you
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I use EMUI 9.1's own App Launch panel to prevent apps from running in the background or starting up on their own, I get around 3-4% drain overnight on the P30
Settings > Battery > App Launch > Set the apps to manual and turn off the background / auto start switches for any apps using a lot of battery
20%?!? definitely not normal. Mine like 3-4%
*Detection* said:
I use EMUI 9.1's own App Launch panel to prevent apps from running in the background or starting up on their own, I get around 3-4% drain overnight on the P30
Settings > Battery > App Launch > Set the apps to manual and turn off the background / auto start switches for any apps using a lot of battery
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Will give it a try and see what happens! Thank you!
*Detection* said:
I use EMUI 9.1's own App Launch panel to prevent apps from running in the background or starting up on their own, I get around 3-4% drain overnight on the P30
Settings > Battery > App Launch > Set the apps to manual and turn off the background / auto start switches for any apps using a lot of battery
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Lost 12% overnight it seems to have slightly improved but its still alot!!! Any other suggestions?
shahkam said:
Lost 12% overnight it seems to have slightly improved but its still alot!!! Any other suggestions?
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I leave mine connected to WiFi, it uses way less battery than LTE/4G
Also disabled BT and WiFi location scanning in Location Access > Advanced Settings
Disable any apps you don't use that may be running in the background
And weirdly, my battery life improved best when I set the phone battery settings to "Performance mode" which goes against everything it's meant to do, but that's what happened, worth a try with yours for 24/48 hours to test
*Detection* said:
I leave mine connected to WiFi, it uses way less battery than LTE/4G
Also disabled BT and WiFi location scanning in Location Access > Advanced Settings
Disable any apps you don't use that may be running in the background
And weirdly, my battery life improved best when I set the phone battery settings to "Performance mode" which goes against everything it's meant to do, but that's what happened, worth a try with yours for 24/48 hours to test
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Going to give this a try and report back love everything bout this phone but the standby drain is driving me nuts...
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I had S10 plus and I went to sleep it was 99% when I woke up it was around 64% sold it 2 day ago and got the P30 pro , today is my 4th day with it and when I wake up it’s always above 90% leaving bluetooth WiFi all running normal so don’t know what’s happening with you....
Went to bed at 100%, woke up and it was at 99% this morning (11 hours on battery)
shahkam said:
Going to give this a try and report back love everything bout this phone but the standby drain is driving me nuts...
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Try to find the cause in Settings - Battery - Usage and detail of batteryusage. This can sometimes indentify an app causing this.
Sometimes problems are solved by wiping the chache partition. Youtube movie how to wipe cache
_Tinus_ said:
Try to find the cause in Settings - Battery - Usage and detail of batteryusage. This can sometimes indentify an app causing this.
Sometimes problems are solved by wiping the chache partition. Youtube movie how to wipe cache
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So far i have turned off wifi/data when screen goes off and it has helped alot!! I now loose 5-6% overnight instead but wish it was less even then
shahkam said:
So far i have turned off wifi/data when screen goes off and it has helped alot!! I now loose 5-6% overnight instead but wish it was less even then
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Do you have aod (always in disolay) on during the night?
That will drain a few percent also. I personaloy turn off aod between 11pm and 7am.
I was getting quite a bit of drain when I had AOD enabled, so I disabled it and chose to use Double tap to wake instead, however I also debloated through ADB around the same time so could have been a rogue package that I removed..
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I was getting quite a bit of drain when I had AOD enabled, so I disabled it and chose to use Double tap to wake instead, however I also debloated through ADB around the same time so could have been a rogue package that I removed..
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Double tap to wake will use power keeping the screen's digitizer panel active waiting for your taps
I always disable everything to do with keeping any part of the phone awake during sleep, AOD, gestures, taps etc, and with DND enabled until 9am that will kill any notifications waking it up too
Looking at the battery usage overnight, the phone logs only 3-4 very short wake events, one I know is it checking for firmware updates and could be disabled, others will likely be whatsapp/outlook
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Double tap to wake will use power keeping the screen's digitizer panel active waiting for your taps
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Although this is true, it's extremely minimal in my opinion, I go to sleep with my phone on 100% & consistently wake up on 99-98% also I don't have DND on at night so the odd text message or email may come through and wake up the screen
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
Although this is true, it's extremely minimal in my opinion, I go to sleep with my phone on 100% & consistently wake up on 99-98% also I don't have DND on at night so the odd text message or email may come through and wake up the screen
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Good to know, yea I managed to get mine down to 1% drain overnight too, as good as their battery management is for that side of things, it has ruined WhatsApp, no matter what I set to exclude it from power saving options I still only get messages when I wake the phone up myself, sometimes only when I actually open WhatsApp, it's gotten so bad now my gf texts me to tell me she's sent me something on WhatsApp, she can even text me while I am using the phone to tell me that and I still never received anything until I open whatsapp
Seems this problem goes back many years with many previous Huawei devices unfortunately which means there is likely never going to be a fix
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Good to know, yea I managed to get mine down to 1% drain overnight too, as good as their battery management is for that side of things, it has ruined WhatsApp, no matter what I set to exclude it from power saving options I still only get messages when I wake the phone up myself, sometimes only when I actually open WhatsApp, it's gotten so bad now my gf texts me to tell me she's sent me something on WhatsApp, she can even text me while I am using the phone to tell me that and I still never received anything until I open whatsapp
Seems this problem goes back many years with many previous Huawei devices unfortunately which means there is likely never going to be a fix
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I removed a lot of Huawei's preinstalled apps to as I don't really use them, I also had the exact same issue with WhatsApp & Twitter, the way I "solved it" strangely enough was disabling them from settings > battery > app launch & restarting my device, then re-enabling them & restarting again, it's been fine ever since could have just been a fluke but it worked so..
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
I removed a lot of Huawei's preinstalled apps to as I don't really use them, I also had the exact same issue with WhatsApp & Twitter, the way I "solved it" strangely enough was disabling them from settings > battery > app launch & restarting my device, then re-enabling them & restarting again, it's been fine ever since could have just been a fluke but it worked so..
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Yea I've changed that App Launch setting many times without any luck, I found a post from way back in 2012 I think it was saying there were 3 different settings that needed changing to fix the exact same problem that still happens today, needless to say this will be my last Huawei phone, not difficult to whitelist something as widely used as WhatsApp, I mean normal messages works fine and that's a Google app not a Huawei app so no reason another 3rd party app couldn't do the same if they wanted it to
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Do you have aod (always in disolay) on during the night?
That will drain a few percent also. I personaloy turn off aod between 11pm and 7am.
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I do! But dont think that's the culprit for two nights in a row since i enabled tap to wake ive Lost again 15% overnight or more going to disable again i think thats the main culprit
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I do! But dont think that's the culprit for two nights in a row since i enabled tap to wake ive Lost again 15% overnight or more going to disable again i think thats the main culprit
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As I mentioned above I have double tap to wake enabled and lose 1-2% so it can't be that...

Question [Battery Drain ISSUE] S21 Ultra 512Gb/16Gb Exynos, Pics with 3 Different Scenarios in Post , BATTERYEXPERTS HELP!

Hey guys,
So i got my Ultra chunk on Jan 22nd (Italy shipments were early) and been testing it non stop on different scenarios on aprox. 10 charge cycles by now and i want to share some of them to find out which apps are draining it in standby idle and WHY CANT I GET MORE THAT 5.30hrs of SOT...i watch every Exynos battery life test on Youtube and I wonder why i cant get those kind of numbers on my phone... is it because of 512gb/16gb? is it because of apps/settings?
1st scenario NORMAL (before update)(with lots of apps on sleep) :
https://imgur.com/a/WDmsNZK
2nd scenario HEAVY (after the update) :
https://imgur.com/a/S5Etest
3rd scenario IDLE FOR 2.30hrs (after update):
https://imgur.com/a/p34u7WE
4th scenario without SS: There was a scenario where i only used camera for a day with lots of UHD and single take (which is heavy on cpu and takes lot of power and heats up the phone in cold weather) and it was around 20% with around 2hours of SOT and lots of camera time...
PS: also i want to add that i added every app and pic/video from my NOTE 8(which i got 4.30hr of SOT!!) and the app count with aprox~590apps (including system apps) and its only ~200gb after i copied bunch of movies to it. I cleared cached 2times by now, tried putting apps to sleep (around 260 of them) and then tried the same apps on deep sleep and today i deleted all of those to let system do that for me.
WHAT SHOULD I DO?
adamlee2012 said:
Mine lost 2% in 57min of not been used. Definitely not normal. Hopefully Samsung are aware and send an update asap.
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Which storage option and which variant? Exynos or SD?
what's your average SOT time when you're using it ?
Same issue
I doubt it's the 16gb/512gb configuration, and to be honest the first screenshot seems pretty reasonable, as youtuber tests are in perfect conditions and not switching apps or on mobile data.
So few questions:
WQHD/120Hz?
WiFi/5G/4G? If one of the later, what was your signal like?
Are literally all of your apps sleeping? If so that can actually be a drain if you're fully reopening apps that you use regularly. I would deep sleep anything you don't use often and let the system determine the rest
Emoji ap and chrome look like they're using quite a bit of battery considering very little use, have seen problems with chrome eating battery so might be worth finding a replacement.
Also seen smarthings has been said to be causing a lot of issues, but don't know if that's visible drain that gets reported or something that just causes it in the background.
Compared to my S10+, my s21u exynos seems to be closing apps way less aggressively i.e. YouTube Vanced is eating battery in the background unless I fully close it even if not watching a video. Hoping this improves with usage.
When starting from scratch (100%) with no apps open, my drain is like 0.6% per hour on WiFi with tap to make AOD, but seems to struggle to idle that well after use unless manually closing apps
mtm1401 said:
I doubt it's the 16gb/512gb configuration, and to be honest the first screenshot seems pretty reasonable, as youtuber tests are in perfect conditions and not switching apps or on mobile data.
So few questions:
WQHD/120Hz?
WiFi/5G/4G? If one of the later, what was your signal like?
Are literally all of your apps sleeping? If so that can actually be a drain if you're fully reopening apps that you use regularly. I would deep sleep anything you don't use often and let the system determine the rest
Emoji ap and chrome look like they're using quite a bit of battery considering very little use, have seen problems with chrome eating battery so might be worth finding a replacement.
Also seen smarthings has been said to be causing a lot of issues, but don't know if that's visible drain that gets reported or something that just causes it in the background.
Compared to my S10+, my s21u exynos seems to be closing apps way less aggressively i.e. YouTube Vanced is eating battery in the background unless I fully close it even if not watching a video. Hoping this improves with usage.
When starting from scratch (100%) with no apps open, my drain is like 0.6% per hour on WiFi with tap to make AOD, but seems to struggle to idle that well after use unless manually closing apps
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WQHD+ 120Hz
No reception here and i didn't put it on airplane mode but now im starting to do so i got 5.47hr of SOT this cycle
Wifi is 2.4ghz with good reception (not great), i had apps that i didn't use on sleeping (removed them) , then did kinda same selection on DEEP SLEEP (again removed them too) and wanted to system to configure it but now system is not putting anything to sleep so its 0 in all three sections.
i used emoji AR for the first time in that cycle so that's why its there and never appeared after that. Chrome beta makes phone heat up slightly but i like it and can't switch to other browsers because of numerous reasons...
and about smartthings, should i unistall it completly or should i disable something for it?
also i removed facedata and also found that FINGERPRINT SCANNER was on ALWAYS ON so i switched it off too.
deep sleep messed up the apps , should i put the apps on sleep again?
also my animation scales are all set at 0.5x in developer settings could that drain it too?
also i jumped straight from note 8 so i dont know about the tips and tricks that S20 users did, is there a specific set of settings that i should turn off/on?
EDIT: Wanted to add if you have goodlock on your phones too? i have everyworking goodlock mod on my phone from galaxy store ( they're available in store just like US), could one of them cause the drainings?
appreciate the replies !
Antonio1981italy said:
Same issue
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you're in Italy? can we return the phone? what's the return window? i dont know if it's because of IT rom / configuration / operator or other factors
also are you also using WQHD 120hz ?
mtm1401 said:
I doubt it's the 16gb/512gb configuration, and to be honest the first screenshot seems pretty reasonable, as youtuber tests are in perfect conditions and not switching apps or on mobile data.
So few questions:
WQHD/120Hz?
WiFi/5G/4G? If one of the later, what was your signal like?
Are literally all of your apps sleeping? If so that can actually be a drain if you're fully reopening apps that you use regularly. I would deep sleep anything you don't use often and let the system determine the rest
Emoji ap and chrome look like they're using quite a bit of battery considering very little use, have seen problems with chrome eating battery so might be worth finding a replacement.
Also seen smarthings has been said to be causing a lot of issues, but don't know if that's visible drain that gets reported or something that just causes it in the background.
Compared to my S10+, my s21u exynos seems to be closing apps way less aggressively i.e. YouTube Vanced is eating battery in the background unless I fully close it even if not watching a video. Hoping this improves with usage.
When starting from scratch (100%) with no apps open, my drain is like 0.6% per hour on WiFi with tap to make AOD, but seems to struggle to idle that well after use unless manually closing apps
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Sounds like your apps are the problem. Go in the settings and restrict background data and background operation of them.
Google Play Services, Google Backup Transport and Framework are prime suspects.
Clear the data for all three.
Try blocking them with Karma Firewall*.
This disabler may work:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
*Because your on 10 or 11 a lot of diagnostic tools available in Pie aren't available to you... so you need to guess.
Android >10 sucks... nothing like feeling secure and helpless. Woke or was that choked?
karandevilocs said:
WQHD+ 120Hz
No reception here and i didn't put it on airplane mode but now im starting to do so i got 5.47hr of SOT this cycle
Wifi is 2.4ghz with good reception (not great), i had apps that i didn't use on sleeping (removed them) , then did kinda same selection on DEEP SLEEP (again removed them too) and wanted to system to configure it but now system is not putting anything to sleep so its 0 in all three sections.
i used emoji AR for the first time in that cycle so that's why its there and never appeared after that. Chrome beta makes phone heat up slightly but i like it and can't switch to other browsers because of numerous reasons...
and about smartthings, should i unistall it completly or should i disable something for it?
also i removed facedata and also found that FINGERPRINT SCANNER was on ALWAYS ON so i switched it off too.
deep sleep messed up the apps , should i put the apps on sleep again?
also my animation scales are all set at 0.5x in developer settings could that drain it too?
also i jumped straight from note 8 so i dont know about the tips and tricks that S20 users did, is there a specific set of settings that i should turn off/on?
EDIT: Wanted to add if you have goodlock on your phones too? i have everyworking goodlock mod on my phone from galaxy store ( they're available in store just like US), could one of them cause the drainings?
appreciate the replies !
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If you have a WiFi connection and have turned on WiFi calling, you shouldn't need to go into aeroplane mode.
This YouTube video explains the different sleep bins so worth a watch (
), but I would also let it settle for a few days if you're moving everything around every 5 minutes.
If it's saved passwords you are stuck in chrome for, I recommend a manager like bitwarden (works across all devices and browsers).
Good lock and animations shouldn't impact battery too much.
Did you use smart switch? Would always recommend a clean install, at least of settings.
Try charging your phone to full before bed, then seeing how much it drains overnight when asleep and if anything pops up on the battery usage that shouldn't
My battery on my S21 Ultra, 512GB, Exynos model has been outstanding.
When WiFi is on, I turn mobile data off
GPS is off
FHD+ display with 120hz
Adaptive brightness
Mail sync off
I don't play games on my phone, so no games installed.
I'm at 30% battery with nearly 7hrs SOT.
speedyjay said:
My battery on my S21 Ultra, 512GB, Exynos model has been outstanding.
When WiFi is on, I turn mobile data off
GPS is off
FHD+ display with 120hz
Adaptive brightness
Mail sync off
I don't play games on my phone, so no games installed.
I'm at 30% battery with nearly 7hrs SOT.
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Wow, so it's not about the 512gb... great battery!
1.Did you use smartswitch when you started it?
2.how many apps you have approximately? Did you set up secure folder/dual apps
3.did you install any goodlock mods on it?
4.why fhd+? The qhd and fhd has the same batterylife according to phonearena test.
5.is your fingerprint reader set to always on? Do you have AOD on as well?
Appreciate the replies! Enjoy it
mtm1401 said:
If you have a WiFi connection and have turned on WiFi calling, you shouldn't need to go into aeroplane mode.
This YouTube video explains the different sleep bins so worth a watch (
), but I would also let it settle for a few days if you're moving everything around every 5 minutes.
If it's saved passwords you are stuck in chrome for, I recommend a manager like bitwarden (works across all devices and browsers).
Good lock and animations shouldn't impact battery too much.
Did you use smart switch? Would always recommend a clean install, at least of settings.
Try charging your phone to full before bed, then seeing how much it drains overnight when asleep and if anything pops up on the battery usage that shouldn't
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I tried deepsleep before too, it messes up the apps completely unlike the normal sleeping method, so im back to using that. Put 265apps to sleep yesterday. Idle battery drain is almost fixed after turning off aod/fingerprint always on sensor and also deleting smartthings, i dont know which one did that
I used smartswitch at fisrt, but only for moving media and contacts/messages, i didnt move the settings.
Secure folder and dualapps make different googleplay services when you create them which is like having two phones at the same time... I wonder if those are the issues
karandevilocs said:
Wow, so it's not about the 512gb... great battery!
1.Did you use smartswitch when you started it?
2.how many apps you have approximately? Did you set up secure folder/dual apps
3.did you install any goodlock mods on it?
4.why fhd+? The qhd and fhd has the same batterylife according to phonearena test.
5.is your fingerprint reader set to always on? Do you have AOD on as well?
Appreciate the replies! Enjoy it
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I do have goodlock. Only the custom clock mod.
I have approximately around 80 apps installed (including the stock Samsung ones)
FHD+ because if the display is barely distinguishable at QHD as opposed to FHD+, you may as well save as much battery as you can while still having the same experience.
I used SmartSwitch when I initially came from the Oppo Find X2 Pro and that went smoothly.
Fingerprint scanner is constantly active.
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HEY GUYS, i included everyone to get the last feedback from you all:
So i think it's getting better this is from 90% to 2% yesterday to today, with 6.15hrs of SOT and ~19hrs of Batterylife, BTW i ran 3dmark (slingshot) and androbench and tried new games too so it was fairly more than normal usage ;
I disabled AOD and fingerprint always on, deleted Smartthings and cleared Play Services cache also i did put 265apps to regular sleep.
Things that i didn't change were: The wifi was alwasy on, bluetooth was on for the majority of the time too, sync on, WQHD+ 120hz, NFC on, and since there is no reception here i put the phone on Airplane mode i still have my goodlock mods and secure folder stuff there too.
And about the SMART SWITCH, I just want to show you guys that i only moved my media and contacts/messages to the new phone and not the settings.
Check them out:
Good or Bad?
I've found
karandevilocs said:
HEY GUYS, i included everyone to get the last feedback from you all:
So i think it's getting better this is from 90% to 2% yesterday to today, with 6.15hrs of SOT and ~19hrs of Batterylife, BTW i ran 3dmark (slingshot) and androbench and tried new games too so it was fairly more than normal usage ;
I disabled AOD and fingerprint always on, deleted Smartthings and cleared Play Services cache also i did put 265apps to regular sleep.
Things that i didn't change were: The wifi was alwasy on, bluetooth was on for the majority of the time too, sync on, WQHD+ 120hz, NFC on, and since there is no reception here i put the phone on Airplane mode i still have my goodlock mods and secure folder stuff there too.
And about the SMART SWITCH, I just want to show you guys that i only moved my media and contacts/messages to the new phone and not the settings.
Check them out:
View attachment 5206509View attachment 5206511View attachment 5206513View attachment 5206515View attachment 5206517
Good or Bad?
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So I always used tap for AOD (with option for fingerprint sensor to show when AOD turns on) as well as a routine for AOD always on when charging, best of both worlds and its an unnecessary drain in my eyes anyway.
I was worried at the battery life I was getting (had the phone from the 28th) but does seem to be gradually improving. I also removed GSAM and Accubattery so I wasn't constantly checking (and they run quite heavy in the background, like 500mb between them).
The other thing to remember is when people are showing battery of over a day, there's like 7-8 hours where it just idles loses 3/4/5%, so the battery life isn't really much better, so 24 hours of usage with 6 hours SOT really isn't that different to 18 hours with 6 hours SOT
Hopefully the improvements keep coming, honestly I'd delete the battery tracking apps and just use the in built one seeing as there isn't a clear drain from anything, you'll stop worrying and checking it all the time, thus saving more battery lol
karandevilocs said:
HEY GUYS, i included everyone to get the last feedback from you all:
So i think it's getting better this is from 90% to 2% yesterday to today, with 6.15hrs of SOT and ~19hrs of Batterylife, BTW i ran 3dmark (slingshot) and androbench and tried new games too so it was fairly more than normal usage ;
I disabled AOD and fingerprint always on, deleted Smartthings and cleared Play Services cache also i did put 265apps to regular sleep.
Things that i didn't change were: The wifi was alwasy on, bluetooth was on for the majority of the time too, sync on, WQHD+ 120hz, NFC on, and since there is no reception here i put the phone on Airplane mode i still have my goodlock mods and secure folder stuff there too.
And about the SMART SWITCH, I just want to show you guys that i only moved my media and contacts/messages to the new phone and not the settings.
Check them out:
View attachment 5206509View attachment 5206511View attachment 5206513View attachment 5206515View attachment 5206517
Good or Bad?
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I'm running on Pie with the factory load for Device Care. That may work well for you but not on the software I have.
I do best with all power management disabled.
Android Services battery use went nuts with power management enabled... and it got worse not better as the days progressed.
With AOD always on it uses less than 1% @ hour for my 10+ so I leave it on.
mtm1401 said:
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So I always used tap for AOD (with option for fingerprint sensor to show when AOD turns on) as well as a routine for AOD always on when charging, best of both worlds and its an unnecessary drain in my eyes anyway.
I was worried at the battery life I was getting (had the phone from the 28th) but does seem to be gradually improving. I also removed GSAM and Accubattery so I wasn't constantly checking (and they run quite heavy in the background, like 500mb between them).
The other thing to remember is when people are showing battery of over a day, there's like 7-8 hours where it just idles loses 3/4/5%, so the battery life isn't really much better, so 24 hours of usage with 6 hours SOT really isn't that different to 18 hours with 6 hours SOT
Hopefully the improvements keep coming, honestly I'd delete the battery tracking apps and just use the in built one seeing as there isn't a clear drain from anything, you'll stop worrying and checking it all the time, thus saving more battery lol
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i had that AOD option since the beginning and some on the other forums wrote that they had improvements after disabling AOD so i disabled that and fingerprint (which is almost useless since i dont need it to scan constatly when im not gonna unlock with my fingerprint anyways i use my mi band as my smartlock)
also i had to use GSAM since i didn't full charge it to prevent degradation and only charged it to 90% hence why the stats are only for 88% of usage. ill delete it after i get another full usage statics. wish the system battery tracker monitored the battery since UNPLUGGED and not since FULLCHARGE.
my phone is getting better imo, and less 1~2hr less than other guys is kinda acceptable since i know NOBODY has that many apps as me lol and also nobody uses both securefolder and dualapps as much as me too.
i really push my phones to extreme and if this one could get me around 7hr of SOT with my usage ill be happy,
but i still think that a software update is indeed needed for Exynos models
The Exynos model really needs a Firmware Update....
karandevilocs said:
i had that AOD option since the beginning and some on the other forums wrote that they had improvements after disabling AOD so i disabled that and fingerprint (which is almost useless since i dont need it to scan constatly when im not gonna unlock with my fingerprint anyways i use my mi band as my smartlock)
also i had to use GSAM since i didn't full charge it to prevent degradation and only charged it to 90% hence why the stats are only for 88% of usage. ill delete it after i get another full usage statics. wish the system battery tracker monitored the battery since UNPLUGGED and not since FULLCHARGE.
my phone is getting better imo, and less 1~2hr less than other guys is kinda acceptable since i know NOBODY has that many apps as me lol and also nobody uses both securefolder and dualapps as much as me too.
i really push my phones to extreme and if this one could get me around 7hr of SOT with my usage ill be happy,
but i still think that a software update is indeed needed for Exynos models
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Try Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker, that's all I use most times.
I never use the fingerprint scanner.
AOD was never an issue but Goggle Backup Transport, Framework and Google Play Services are.
Those can cause excessive usage when on AOD on my setup. AOD battery usage should be around .6-1% @ hr max.
blackhawk said:
Try Gallaxy Labs Battery Tracker, that's all I use most times.
I never use the fingerprint scanner.
AOD was never an issue but Goggle Backup Transport, Framework and Google Play Services are.
Those can cause excessive usage when on AOD on my setup. AOD battery usage should be around .6-1% @ hr max.
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galaxy labs modules doesn't work on android 11,
also there is no Goggle Backup Transport, Framework in apps, maybe you're on older android/device so the methods are different for different devices and OS versions

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