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How to make the best photos ?

Hello from France
I would like to know how to make the best photos?
I'm not a professionnal. I would like to be sure to have the best photos when i press the button without changing anything
For the moment i have choose 10mx pixels and disable IA, only that
I'm a little suprise about the size of photos. Beetween 2Mo-3Mo so half less than my Samsung S7
3648*2736 P20 Pro - > 4032*3024 Samsung S7 (12Mo pixels)
A better compression ?
Really thanks
I have called Huawei and a technician told me to choose 40mpixels! I maybe it was an Samsung spy !!!!!:laugh:

for me, i just switch it to auto and on the AI, seems to be doing it's job correctly so far, and if the AI detects wrongly, i'll just dismiss the scene by clicking on the "x" beside the scene name

I also suggest leaving AI on, it does a fantastic job in many scenarios, producing quality pics you just wouldn't capture without. It also reduces hand shake to get sharper photos. Just dismiss it when the shot you want to capture doesn't look right rather than disable it completely.

I think it depends on your taste. The AI is boosting colours quite a bit ( which I really like), for some this might be too much. In 10 mp mode there is also a lot of sharpening going on, just take a 10mp picture of some clouds. They are so cleary structured, I love it. But again some say its to much. 40 mp will give you the picture more straigt from the sensor(which is a good sensor) which some people prefer. For me its 10mp but i will occasionally switch to 40mp just to compare. Also try the Night Mode in various situations(even some where it is not too dark) it is amazing.

Depth vs. Bokeh Mode

Can somebody explain the difference between taking a picture in the standard "Photo" or "Pro" mode with Depth turned on vs. taking a picture in Bokeh mode? Is there and advantage of one over the other. Also, does capturing Depth have any effect for editing the RAW files in Lightroom? The camera processes pictures much faster with Depth turned OFF. So what I'd like to know is if there is any point in capturing Depth for regular everyday pictures (scenery, random family pics, etc.) in Photo or Pro mode vs. using Bokeh mode when I want that background blur effect.

I am rather confused by this too. According to the manual Bokeh is if you know you will want to change the focus area after taking the shot and Depth mode is for creating "a sense of depth and perspective". I suspect the depth images contain a lot more information than the Bokeh ones so will give you the potential for more impressive results. I just took test images in both modes of the same scene and actually the Bokeh image was the larger file (11MB versus 6.9MB), but I believe the depth mode data may be heavily compressed.

I have this phone and i am verry happy with this phone.i buy the phone on 15 march
But when i start the phone the first time there was a update.after the update i start the camera but i bever Find the bokeh modus on the camera app.is this function gone after the update ? Sorry my englisch is ferry bad .

Hi, you have to go into the camera app and select Bokeh mode from the list of modes about a quarter of the way up from the bottom (left to Pro). Depth mode is different and is activated from within the camera in Pro mode from the options at the top. Its the item to the right of the "hamburger". Hope that helps!

Thank you ferry much.
I have camera app 91.9.1160.53
And i still cant find bokeh .
I found a newer version of the app and try to install it.
IT was version 91.9.1170.61
When i open the app i can see bokeh.
Butt the app crashes when i choose bokeh.
I removed the update.
Do you Nokia 9 users have the same camera app version ?
Greetings

look at the camera settings and select mode management. Maybe it is switched off there?
I have the same version as you and I see it

If the camera app crashes, you should charge the battery. It's a known bug.

Oke thanks ,gonna try IT out
This is how mode management looks like
https://ibb.co/HrZcwph

The difference is that Bokeh Mode puts the fake bokeh into the RAW file and you cant undo it anymore, right?

The biggest difference is... Don't use Bokeh, just enable Depth and set your focus manually. Bokeh is basically just a quick point-and-shoot version that tries to identify the target. Manual depth editing allows full control over it after the picture is taken. Just use the Depth editing.

Harfainx said:
The biggest difference is... Don't use Bokeh, just enable Depth and set your focus manually. Bokeh is basically just a quick point-and-shoot version that tries to identify the target. Manual depth editing allows full control over it after the picture is taken. Just use the Depth editing.
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This , just use Depth, works much better.
Bokeh mode on Nokia 9 is horrendous most of the time, it blurs some parts and leaves other parts unblurred (seems like the help Google provided did NOT include machine learning blurring lol).

HDR Problem

So coming from a photographer-background i feel that the camera on the P30 Pro is a bit heavy on the HDR. Meaning that it doesn't recreate blacks very well, and in some shot's where shadows would be better left natural, it gives it too much HDR. (Sorry the bad English)
Is there a way to adjust/turn off HDR on this camera?

I believe if you turn off the AI and shoot in auto it shouldn't apply any HDR - but I don't know this to be true.

It's somewhat difficult to get away from the HDR look since when you shoot in Auto mode at 10mpix it utilizes pixelbinning which will kinda look like HDR where highlights are pulled down and shadows are lifted. The only way to get around this is to use a third party camera application or to shoot RAW, and i do recommend you shoot RAW anyways to get away from the heavy overprocessing, noisereduction and sharpening.
/ Magnus

Use pro mode.

Thanks for the reply guys. But I don't have the time to shoot pro and RAW all the time when it comes to smartphone-photos. The phone is for taking quick shots for Instagram-stories and such.
If I want to get a proper shot I pull out my Nikon D800. But there should be an option to adjust the level of HDR in photo mode, turning off "AI" doesn't change much, sadly.

TordFuglstad said:
Thanks for the reply guys. But I don't have the time to shoot pro and RAW all the time when it comes to smartphone-photos. The phone is for taking quick shots for Instagram-stories and such.
If I want to get a proper shot I pull out my Nikon D800. But there should be an option to adjust the level of HDR in photo mode, turning off "AI" doesn't change much, sadly.
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Use pro mode without changing any setting you will be fine.

Just surfing comparisons online and this video shows it goes both ways. Sometimes the P30 Pro pulls out the shadow detail, other times the 6T does:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wevRTMspBIM

This is also bothering me, I turned off the AI on my previous P20 Pro, and this wasn't a problem. But now on the P30 Pro, even if I turn off the AI sometimes photos come out as horribly overprocessed to the extent that the photos can't even be fixed by post processing. The effect is very similar to heavy HDR (or glike going overboard with the Google Photos' Pop effect)

GCam 6.1 for Huawei P Smart (2018)

Hello everyone! Before starting this article , I would like to say that this Gcam port doesn't belong to me. There are multiple developers that worked on this , i'm here just to share the link and my experience with it.
"Story" :
Anyways , I've had my P Smart for a year now, And I mostly bought it for the camera.
After using it for about 7 months , I really saw how poor the processing is on the stock camera app. So I decided to look at some solutions to my problem.
One of the main problems with the stock camera for me was the "Portrait Mode" and "Wide Aperture". They were really bad on EMUI 8.0 and they are just as bad on EMUI 9.1. And well, Here is Gcam to solve the problem
My experience with it:
I've been using this Gcam port for a while and I can say that it is amazing.
Things that work really well:
-HDR,HDR+, the zoom is waaay better
-Portrait mode works like a charm and looks very good (only works on humans, not objects)
-Video Recording (also you can easily stabilize the videos from the Google Photos app)
-Photo sphere
What doesn't work:
-Night Sight
-Slow-mo
-Panorama
-Taking a photo with no HDR
What kind of works :
-RAW ( has a really weird green tint on the pic)
Photos:
All of these photos were taken with the stock camera (Emui 9.1) and Gcam
1)Stock Camera, Normal mode, No zoom
2)GCam , HDR+ enabled, No zoom
3)Stock camera , Normal mode, Full zoom
4)GCam , HDR+ enabled ,Full zoom
As you can see , the dinamic range is way better on GCam
VERY IMPORTANT!!
Settings before you use it!
The default settings are wrong. You first need to go to "More" then "BSG settings" and then set the saturation as you like , otherwise the photos look dead
And well , here is the link Just like I said , THIS MOD DOESN'T BELONG TO ME!
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/MGC_6.1.009_MI8_V1a.apk
Like this post if this helped ya , Have a nice day

I've been using this for a long while got it from honor 9 lite forums. Here are the settings that I use. Front camera isn't very good though always makes lights pink and even rear camera sometimes does it but I try to fix it in snapseed.
If you do have good settings for front cam let me know!

KasraMC said:
I've been using this for a long while got it from honor 9 lite forums. Here are the settings that I use. Front camera isn't very good though always makes lights pink and even rear camera sometimes does it but I try to fix it in snapseed.
If you do have good settings for front cam let me know!
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Well , the saturation settings don't really matter , it's about preference,
But I think it's some sort of glitch from the app itself, and to avoid the glitch , you always have to focus on the point where is the most light. here are my setting tho , and an example of the pink tint on my p smart

I cannot seem to get video to work, everytime I try the app just closes. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

onedial said:
I cannot seem to get video to work, everytime I try the app just closes. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
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Disable "stores videos efficiently"

Question #HELP! Blurry photos with 1x

Hi, I noticed today that when I take photos with 1x, it seems like lack of focus.
With wide camera, 3x, and 10x, the results are fine and sharp. Just the main 1x is the problem.
Note: I used manual focus with Pro mode
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Anyone has this issue? Any idea how to fix it?
Things I have done:
- factory reset, clear camera cache.
I am running One UI 4 Beta 1.
Samsung S21 Ultra Snapdragon 5G

Shaky hands?

babyboy3265 said:
Shaky hands?
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I don't think so, if it's the case, the pro mode will also produce blurry one. It only happens with indoor photo.
I have turned off scene optimizer & focus enhancer as well.

You may have a too dark room to take photos

tessut said:
You may have a too dark room to take photos
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It's 12 PM and the light is everywhere. Not sure why the pro mode and 4:3 did better details tho?
Do you think my unit is faulty? Did factory reset and still the same

Brace the phone to eliminate cam shake.
Make sure it's getting a AF lock.
Where you too close?
Compare the shooting settings from the pro vs photo auto whatever mode in the photos exif data.
Not every shot is a keeper...

blackhawk said:
Brace the phone to eliminate cam shake.
Make sure it's getting a AF lock.
Where you too close?
Compare the shooting settings from the pro vs photo auto whatever mode in the photos exif data.
Not every shot is a keeper...
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Not sure. I see a similar thread below talking about the same thing.
Short story he got his phone repaired by Samsung.
Issue with focus on camera 1.0x
Hello ! This weekend , i find an issue on my S21 ultra.. With the 1.0x camera , the back of the photo is always blurry... With 3.0x or 0.6x no problem ! I try to touch my screen for the focus but same problem... my mother have the same phone and...
forum.xda-developers.com

Sky33 said:
Not sure. I see a similar thread below talking about the same thing.
Short story he got his phone repaired by Samsung.
Issue with focus on camera 1.0x
Hello ! This weekend , i find an issue on my S21 ultra.. With the 1.0x camera , the back of the photo is always blurry... With 3.0x or 0.6x no problem ! I try to touch my screen for the focus but same problem... my mother have the same phone and...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Could be... but a couple blurry shots can happen.
Make sure the lense cover plate is clean as that can skew the AF.
Try clearing the cam data and the system cache.

blackhawk said:
Could be... but a couple blurry shots can happen.
Make sure the lense cover plate is clean as that can skew the AF.
Try clearing the cam data and the system cache.
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I think it is okay now. I switched the full resolution and format my phone. I'll let you know if it happens again

Sky33 said:
I think it is okay now. I switched the full resolution and format my phone. I'll let you know if it happens again
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blackhawk said:
Could be... but a couple blurry shots can happen.
Make sure the lense cover plate is clean as that can skew the AF.
Try clearing the cam data and the system cache.
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No. It happens again.
Hmm there are actually people also having this problem.
S21 ultra 5g 1x camera auto focus issue.
So I'm on vacation in Arizona and was trying to take photos at the grand canyon. Normal 1x camera is stuck won't focus, pictures come out blurry. All other camera lenses work great. What is the problem, spent a lot of money on this phone for the camera and when I need it, it doesn't work...
us.community.samsung.com

What's the resolution of the resulting photos? That doesn't look like blur, but more like low resolution.

daniel_loft said:
What's the resolution of the resulting photos? That doesn't look like blur, but more like low resolution.
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Just took the full resolution, they are 1800x4000.
The only difference is the main camera is blurry, while the other cameras work well, sharp fine photos

Even if you put your phone in one spot and you are not holding it in your hands the photos from the main cam still come up blurry?

@Sky33 what you are sharing there are screenshots which is not ideal. In order to clear the situation up let's do the following:
0. Disable location saving in the camera app.
1. Pick a well lit scene (at least as lit as a cloudy mid day) with a well defined object (the sky or a wall won't do) that is at least 2 m from your phone. Most of the times indoor lighting is not enough, except maybe for a very bright kitchen light.
2. Place your phone on an object (preferably on a tripod) or make you're holding it very still (you have to be in a confortabile position yourself).
3. Frame the photo with the above object close to the middle and force the camera to focus on it by tapping the screen on the object.
4. Take a picture with the auto mode.
5. Switch to pro mode and repeat points 3 and 4. Be careful to have approximately the same framing.
6. Upload the original photos to a file sharing service (Google Drive, One Drive, mega.nz, etc.) and share them here. Do not use a photo sharing service as that might compress the pictures. Do not remove any EXIF data from the pictures.
In case I wasn't clear enough please point it out. I'm not in the best environment to write.
Let's see what comes out.

daniel_loft said:
@Sky33 what you are sharing there are screenshots which is not ideal. In order to clear the situation up let's do the following:
0. Disable location saving in the camera app.
1. Pick a well lit scene (at least as lit as a cloudy mid day) with a well defined object (the sky or a wall won't do) that is at least 2 m from your phone. Most of the times indoor lighting is not enough, except maybe for a very bright kitchen light.
2. Place your phone on an object (preferably on a tripod) or make you're holding it very still (you have to be in a confortabile position yourself).
3. Frame the photo with the above object close to the middle and force the camera to focus on it by tapping the screen on the object.
4. Take a picture with the auto mode.
5. Switch to pro mode and repeat points 3 and 4. Be careful to have approximately the same framing.
6. Upload the original photos to a file sharing service (Google Drive, One Drive, mega.nz, etc.) and share them here. Do not use a photo sharing service as that might compress the pictures. Do not remove any EXIF data from the pictures.
In case I wasn't clear enough please point it out. I'm not in the best environment to write.
Let's see what comes out.
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Note: I used manual focus with Pro mode
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Take into account the differences in iso, shutter speed, exposure and AF point between the 2 modes.
On my N10+ I will use manual mode when automated mode fails. Usually because of an AF lockon issues.
These micro lense systems have no adjustable aperture so no aperture priority mode, the most useful mode to have when shooting.
That sucks.

blackhawk said:
Take into account the differences in iso, shutter speed, exposure and AF point between the 2 modes.
On my N10+ I will use manual mode when automated mode fails. Usually because of an AF lockon issues.
These micro lense systems have no adjustable aperture so no aperture priority mode, the most useful mode to have when shooting.
That sucks.
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I came from N10+ and didn't have this issue. Usually just open camera, point, and shoot, and will definitely get those fine results.
I guess this is a new normal for me :/

Sky33 said:
I came from N10+ and didn't have this issue. Usually just open camera, point, and shoot, and will definitely get those fine results.
I guess this is a new normal for me :/
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Return it if not happy.
If anything it should be better than the 10+'s AF.
I got a second new N10+ 2 weeks ago because both Samsung latest and Android 11 didn't thrill me.

Sky33 said:
Note: I used manual focus with Pro mode
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That is peculiar. Have you a different photo app?

Sky33 said:
Note: I used manual focus with Pro mode
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Sorry for my late response but I've been rather busy lately.
I kept on looking at the two sets of pictures and I must say there are some interesting things happening there. I assumed that the objects in focus are the boxes of Crunchies and the chair on the grass, respectively. I took a look at the EXIF data and it might explain a lot.
Indoor picture:
Auto: The blur seems to be caused by movement. If the exposure time is correct (1 s) than it is very much explainable. I'm not sure how capable Samsung's OIS is, but from my experience 4 stops is what OIS would compensate for and there are approx 5 stops (1/60, 1/30, 1/15, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1) between pro and auto exposure times.
Pro: The exposure time is just about right for a clear shot (1/50 sec). The exposure seems to be calculated differently, for whatever reason.
Outdoor picture:
Auto: Same as before, there is a 1 sec exposure time.
Pro: The photo seems to be more sharpened in pro mode.
I would recommend you wipe the cache of the camera app and try again. If the results are not improving then try wiping the data of the camera app. If things are still blurry, call Samsung service center. There is a possibility that your camera module is not properly calibrated.