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Please rate your screen on time to the nearest half hour.
If you respond to the poll, please reply as well so more can see it.
If you have abnormally hi/low times please post your thoughts on why.
I'm going to take this chance to recommend you use Firefox instead of Chrome for internet browsing. Not sure why but Chrome just uses a lot of power. I frequently see 30% ratings on the battery usage stats screen.
Switching to Firefox and unless I go above 6 or so tabs I'm almost always ~half Chrome's power usage. So, 15-20% max usually.
conclusion:
75% of users get >3.5h screen on time.
3.5 hours with Dalvik.
Switched to ART Saturday night and first day on Sunday and again today was pushing 4 hours SOT, so a slight improvement. Have to wait and see if it improves over time as I have not had any FC's with any of the apps I use so I'll keep running ART to see if that helps.
Google Now is on, screen set at 10% (auto way too aggressive), Location set to Mode - Battery Saving (I know if I switched to Device Only that could help, but then Google Now location based cards don't work) so leaving it on for now.
This is pretty hard to reply on just because I never let my phone get down to 1% to have a gauge of SOT. Do I partake in the poll if I'm at 40% at the end of my day with 2h54min SOT?
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This is pretty hard to reply on just because I never let my phone get down to 1% to have a gauge of SOT. Do I partake in the poll if I'm at 40% at the end of my day with 2h54min SOT?
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I would extrapolate, you probably get 4h being pessimistic. Your battery stats might be off.
rancur3p1c said:
I would extrapolate, you probably get 4h being pessimistic. Your battery stats might be off.
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bump for more poll results! please vote!
While I'm curious where this goes I urge ppl. not to take results as reference as user patterns differ wildly. Syncing, Now!, BT, data on/off, 2G or 3G or LTE, GPS or network location, apps, brightness, sleep time all can make a difference in SoT.
I noticed that I'm getting more battery drain when I set location to battery saving mode. I noticed when I was on battery saving mode that it was causing Google services to run much longer.
I have all connections on. Bluetooth, push services, exact location, location reporting, Google now, screen brightness on auto. I get roughly 3-4 hrs of SOT.
Running cataclysm and Franco r13
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5 hours give or take a half an hour. Can do six.
4hr SOT if I use until battery hits ~5%.
Often getting 2hr SOT at about 50% remaining.
50% wifi, 45% lte, 5% airplaneMode, bluetooth/nfc always on, auto-brightness on, data sync on
Location reporting on (battery saving mode), GNow off
using dalvik, stock rom, stock kernel
6 hours franco r13
Best is seven and a half hours. But that was a bit of a best possible conditions environment and screen was at manual 20% brightness.
Faux kernel.
I get an average of 5 hours with my phone.
what are you all getting without Faux123's 002 kernel?
I'm on 003 with underclocking wow big difference in drain.
kmckmc said:
4hr SOT if I use until battery hits ~5%.
Often getting 2hr SOT at about 50% remaining.
50% wifi, 45% lte, 5% airplaneMode, bluetooth/nfc always on, auto-brightness on, data sync on
Location reporting on (battery saving mode), GNow off
using dalvik, stock rom, stock kernel
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thanks.
I Always have LTE off unless i'm tethering, HSPA+ is fast enough for phone use. Screen is always below 50%, google now off, location at battery saving. all sync is set to off/manual. wifi/bt almost always on. I do about 1.5 hours of a2dp streaming per day.
With all of those conditions I have seen 4-4.5 hours over a 2 day discharge cycle. I could probably get another hour if I used my phone over the course of 1 day instead of 2.
3.5 hours average per day/charge with an hour of games. 4.5 hours with no games.
Wifi+Data, 30% brightness Google Now on, most Google sync off, GPS: battery saving.
5.5-6.5 hours on mobile moderate use and every sensor on. Only change is manual 25-30% brightness. This phone is multiples brighter than anything I've used. If it had lower minimums I would keep in on auto. The n7 is the same way.
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Jayrod1980 said:
5.5-6.5 hours on mobile moderate use and every sensor on. Only change is manual 25-30% brightness. This phone is multiples brighter than anything I've used. If it had lower minimums I would keep in on auto. The n7 is the same way.
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Lux is quite good at managing auto brightness, you can set a lower average. Not sure if it's compatible with 4.4 just yet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitocassisi.luxlite
These results are pretty encouraging imo. I'll be coming from an HTC Rezound that usually gets around 2 hrs of SOT, so it looks like this will most likely be an improvement according to the poll. I'd love an extra hour to an hour and a half of SOT compared to what I usually get
Consider this a bump I guess, since I can't actually vote yet. Just getting more and more excited cause I just got my shipping notification today.
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well, my iphone 5 lasted 5 days while playing skyrim 31.
Please post your battery discussion here:
Hardcore73 said:
Please post your battery discussion here:
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The first day I had it, I woke up around 8:00 AM and got to about 6:00 PM when it ran out of juice. This was with heavy use, screen always on and brightness set to about 60%.
I changed the settings so that the screen is not always on and brightness is now set to 40%. This made a huge difference. Today, for example, I've already had it off the charger for 8 hours and it's still at 79% battery. I'm at work, and it's getting used as it normally would be.
The screen being set to always on will obviously burn through battery at a fairly quick rate, especially if the brightness is set high. It's worth noting that letting the screen turn off automatically does not impede its usefulness. The screen comes on automatically when your turn your writes to look at the device, and when you touch the screen.
100% @ 7:30 a.m. & @ 31% battery as of this post, 9:20 p.m. with heavy use throughout the day. I had the screen @ always on through the majority of the day; however switched to off @ around 7 p.m.
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The first day I had it, I woke up around 8:00 AM and got to about 6:00 PM when it ran out of juice. This was with heavy use, screen always on and brightness set to about 60%.
I changed the settings so that the screen is not always on and brightness is now set to 40%. This made a huge difference. Today, for example, I've already had it off the charger for 8 hours and it's still at 79% battery. I'm at work, and it's getting used as it normally would be.
The screen being set to always on will obviously burn through battery at a fairly quick rate, especially if the brightness is set high. It's worth noting that letting the screen turn off automatically does not impede its usefulness. The screen comes on automatically when your turn your writes to look at the device, and when you touch the screen.
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So which mode will you run daily? Screen-off?
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So which mode will you run daily? Screen-off?
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Screen off for sure. It comes on automatically when I go to look at it, and I want to conserve battery.
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Screen off for sure. It comes on automatically when I go to look at it, and I want to conserve battery.
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Undocked at 8 AM with 100% charged, used till mid night with heavy usage with 32% left when got to bed. Very impressed with battery performance. I am using default settings (brightness - 4, Always-on screen, showing cards on dimmed screen, alert on watch and phone when connected).
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Undocked at 8 AM with 100% charged, used till mid night with heavy usage with 32% left when got to bed. Very impressed with battery performance. I am using default settings (brightness - 4, Always-on screen, showing cards on dimmed screen, alert on watch and phone when connected).
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Unplug at 7:30am @11pm still 49% battery but my note 3 battery goes down, i have to plug it in the afternoon.
My battery usage on my phone shows android wear being the main culprit.
Before that, I could last all day in one charge.
unplugged at 8a.m. plugged back in around 1:30a.m. about 18% left.
Screen set to "always on", brightness set to "4".
I'm not sure what constitutes heavy usage, but I do look at my screen and do a couple of swipes about every 15 minutes or so, unless I'm expecting an email or something.
Why do you need the screen always on?
The screen on when you look at it functions really well, and saves a lot of battery.
I unplug at 6.45 am. Still got 60% by 10.30 pm
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Wow, guys, what am I doing wrong?
I take mine off charge when I get up at 5.30 AM.
It's down to 85% by the time I leave the house at 7am (it's maybe had the screen on for a total of a minute maximum).
I lose roughly 10% an hour (with maximum "screen on" time of a minute or 2 an hour.
It's below 20% by 3 or 4pm.
So I thought it might be that I had brightness on 4/5, so I've changed to 1/5, but still, it's little better. I might get an extra hour maybe.
I like the idea of it, and when it's alive, it's great. But for me, I'm struggling to get 10-12 hours, with low use.
i'm gonna try it tomorrow with Screen-off mode enabled.
I'd happily accept charging it every night, but I'm struggling to get half a day here.
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Wow, guys, what am I doing wrong?.
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There's definitely something wrong there. I would try unpairing and resetting the watch (the only thing you'll lose is fitness data).
Then I'd uninstall Android wear from the phone, reset the phone and start all over again.
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There's definitely something wrong there. I would try unpairing and resetting the watch (the only thing you'll lose is fitness data).
Then I'd uninstall Android wear from the phone, reset the phone and start all over again.
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Thanks.
Gonna try that now..........
i agree, there's something not right in your situation.
i took mine off at 11am and it's almost 3am now and i'm at 43% screen always on and moderate use
Got mine on Thursday. Since then it's off the charger for 16h/day. Setting is always on. Indoor I usually keep the brightness at 1 since I really don't need more. Outdoor it's always at 5.
I always end my day with 20-30% left.
One thing I noticed is colourful watch face kill the battery. Specifically while driving since the brightness it at 5 at the screen come on often while driving or doing other activities.
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Having reset the watch as suggested, It does seem greatly improved for me.
It came off charge this morning at 7am, so by now I'd normally be down to maybe 30-40%, but I'm currently still on 82%.
Thanks for the suggestion - it looks like it may have solved it.
I'd normally end the day with about 50% left. Two days ago I installed Pinterest and Fancy to see what the interface is like. The next day I ended the day at 7%. Today by around 4pm I was down to 30%.
i uninstalled both apps, charged it up, and the battery usage seems to have gone back to normal.
On my watch the battery is not that great comparing to some of you. Have you activated some battery saving options ?
Mine comes off charge at around 7am. By 10pm I'm usually around 25-35% battery. Usage is light to medium, with screen set to always on at default brightness.
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On my watch the battery is not that great comparing to some of you. Have you activated some battery saving options ?
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i think it generally comes down to how much you interact with the watch. while i have somewhat moderate usage, the interaction time with the screen fully lit is fairly short, a majority of the day my watch is in the low power screen state (b&w mode) and i think that prolongs the battery quite a bit since it is a samoled screen and i'm sure the processor drops down to a low power state.
a lot of my use is swiping away notifications and navigation (but while in navigation the watch is mostly in the low power state since it shows my next step on that screen)
I'm not interacting that much with it, but each time I turn my wrist, the screen turns on, and I think that's the problem. The B&W mode is nice, when I just want to use it like a real watch the B&W mode is sufficient, is there a way to stay in B&W mode when I turn my wrist, but still have the vibrations on?
Thanks.
So I've had my phone a little over a month now and i never got amazing battery life, but compared to other phones it was solid. However, i see people with 6-7 hours of screen on time, when i struggle to squeeze 4 out of my phone. Typically i get down to about 10% with 17 hours total and 3.5 hours of screen on time. Also my phone usually turns off at 5-10% randomly, is this normal? Lastly, every so often if i let the battery run down until it turns off (8% or so) i get a screen that shows the battery sign with an exclamation mark on the inside. Is my phone defective or are peoples battery stats a matter of difference in usage.
SOT heavily depends on use and screen brightness.
I always get 6-7, auto brightness, no gaming.
Yes but I'm saying i get a max of 4 hours SOT with absolutely no gaming. All i do is text and use normal stuff like twitter and instagram.
My device at the same, up to 5 SOT
Do you think battery problems on this device?
Edit: 8-10 hours standby -> %10 battery drain...
Location - Battery saving(always)
Brightness - Auto(always)
Wifi - off(idle off- Scanning always available <-OFF)
Network - 2G(idle)
Bloatware - all disabled
Moto Apps - Only Moto Display -ON-
Facebook / Twitter - I don't use!
I typically see 1% battery drain for every hour in stand by and 10% for every hour of screen on time. After 24 hours with 2 hrs SOT, I'll be around 55%. I don't use WiFi or GPS very often.
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So I've had my phone a little over a month now and i never got amazing battery life, but compared to other phones it was solid. However, i see people with 6-7 hours of screen on time, when i struggle to squeeze 4 out of my phone. Typically i get down to about 10% with 17 hours total and 3.5 hours of screen on time. Also my phone usually turns off at 5-10% randomly, is this normal? Lastly, every so often if i let the battery run down until it turns off (8% or so) i get a screen that shows the battery sign with an exclamation mark on the inside. Is my phone defective or are peoples battery stats a matter of difference in usage.
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JasonJoel said:
SOT heavily depends on use and screen brightness.
I always get 6-7, auto brightness, no gaming.
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cascade128 said:
Do you think battery problems on this device?
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Location - Battery saving(always)
Brightness - Auto(always)
Wifi - off(idle off- Scanning always available <-OFF)
Network - 2G(idle)
Bloatware - all disabled
Moto Apps - Only Moto Display -ON-
Facebook / Twitter - I don't use!
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I typically see 1% battery drain for every hour in stand by and 10% for every hour of screen on time. After 24 hours with 2 hrs SOT, I'll be around 55%. I don't use WiFi or GPS very often.
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Just wait for Lollipop update and the excessive battery drain will be gone. With KitKat I had around 10% or more battery drain overnight, but now I'm having at most 1%-2% with the same synced settings, so it was a huge improve, believe me.
Besides this, try to disable Moto Actions (except camera wrist), keep those sensors awake all the time drain a lot of battery. The exclamation sign inside the battery should be present in around 5% battery left.
Also, as far as I know, Turbo will be updated directly to 5.1, so it would be better, but hope that Verizon crap-ware doesn’t ruin the update.
Hi all, How to check screen on time with Mini 2? Can't find it under power settings, it shows only hardware and apps battery time but what about screen? Also what is your readings, is it bad, good or mediocre?
osstis said:
Hi all, How to check screen on time with Mini 2? Can't find it under power settings, it shows only hardware and apps battery time but what about screen? Also what is your readings, is it bad, good or mediocre?
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Setting> display and gestures> screen time out.
Love it Love it Love it
I don't mind screen timeout, I'm talking about battery life and screen on time (SOT).
osstis said:
I don't mind screen timeout, I'm talking about battery life and screen on time (SOT).
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sorry my bad
settings> power> history
youll find a graphic there.
hi yes I know there is a graphics with timeline but not hours and minutes to tell you how long screen has been turned on since last charging. I'm using GSam Battery Monitor app to calculate my SOT, I'm got this HTC from new 3 days now and I'm after second charge.
My results are not bad, see picture Time since last full charge: 18h34m, 69% remaining including
Screen on Time 1h29m, Calls 20min, WiFi 10h, Web Browsing 30min, Nova 3 gaming 30min, few emails, txt, Auto sync off (just check emails when I want), location off, Auto brightness on, power saving mode on (turned off while gaming). While I sleep 7hrs battery dropped 2% only. Due to not big 2100mAh battery it seems to be good.
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hi yes I know there is a graphics with timeline but not hours and minutes to tell you how long screen has been turned on since last charging. I'm using GSam Battery Monitor app to calculate my SOT, I'm got this HTC from new 3 days now and I'm after second charge.
My results are not bad, see picture Time since last full charge: 18h34m, 69% remaining including
Screen on Time 1h29m, Calls 20min, WiFi 10h, Web Browsing 30min, Nova 3 gaming 30min, few emails, txt, Auto sync off (just check emails when I want), location off, Auto brightness on, power saving mode on (turned off while gaming). While I sleep 7hrs battery dropped 2% only. Due to not big 2100mAh battery it seems to be good.
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Go to settings> power> usage >
click android system. its all there.
CPU Total
CPU Foreground
Screen On
Keep Awake
etc
etc
same for individual apps.
Just curious, if having Motion Sense on hurts battery life much? I only have the minimal of Motion Sense enabled, just Reach to check phone only. Skip songs off. Silence interruptions off. Always on display off.
And my Display settings I have Reach to check phone On. Tap to check phone On. Lift to check phone On.
Do these settings effect battery much, or not at all? What do you recommend for best battery life for Motion Sense and Display settings?
I have my settings exactly like you do actually. I can only assume they are helping battery life vs having all the motion sense settings on. I have no need for the others for my usage currently though that may change.
It's a 10% drain overnight sleeping with literally nothing swinging above it. For me that's a huge drain that I will not put up with. I disabled everything just like you and it was the same, doesn't matterwhat's feature your enable or disable, if you have it enabled it rains cuz it's constantly trying to send motion above it. At least that's what my testing showed.
I have it disabled altogether because that function is literally useless. When you can enable "turn screen on pick up" or "turn screen on with a tap"
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I turned off Motion Sense couple days ago, but in my battery use, showing which things used the most, #2 on the list was Ambient Display. But with Motion Sense off, what's using Ambient Display?
I did turn AoD back on, so is it the always on display draining?
I was having great battery life yesterday, at end of day, bedtime I had like 5h 30m SoT with like 33% battery life left. I didn't charge overnight, and this morning checked the phone and it was at 19%. I was like, how the heck did the phone lose like 10% overnight, when not in use, but unplugged. It's on WiFi. Does Always on Display kill it?
I initially used it but eventually just turned it off. I have a couple of trusted devices set up (my watch and my car) so my phone is never locked when I'm near it. Also, since the screen touch to activate works so well, I can tap the screen to check notifications so having Soli turn on the screen before I can touch it, but still needing to reach for it, it just didn't seem to be worth feeding it electrons just for that. Perhaps when they work out some more useful functions, like volume or muting, I'll turn it back on.
My battery life is like Zorachus (though I keep it on a charging stand overnight so I don't care about idle drain). I did this in the first couple of days of owning the phone before battery usage stabilized so I don't really know if it drains it significantly or not. Maybe I'll turn it on one day just to see.
With motion sense off but always on display on throughout the day yesterday and evening I was getting really good battery life I think I was just concerned cuz I left the phone at like 35% last night before bed I purposely didn't plug it in just to see and when I wake up and it had like 20% battery life so it went down over 10% while I was sleeping and I have everything pretty much turned off no location finder no push notifications I've got it stripped down pretty good on Wi-Fi so not sure what happened?
Mine dropped that much overnight Saturday but that was also the weekend I went 46 hours between charges and got 5-something hours of screen time (the only thing shut off was Soli and NFC (WiFi, BT, data, Location services, AOD, etc. were all on). Idle drain of ~1-1.5% per hour doesn't sound that bad to me.
hmmmm after reading this i turned motion sense totally off and AOD back on and will see the battery life over the next two days and compare.
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hmmmm after reading this i turned motion sense totally off and AOD back on and will see the battery life over the next two days and compare.
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Seems Motion Sense is a drainer, but AoD not so much. So for me, using my Pixel 4 XL with no Motion Sense, my battery life lately;
My battery life on my 4 XL seems to be all over the board, but it's never less than 5.5h SoT, and that's at the 10% mark when battery saver kicks in. Some days it seems I can get close to 7.5h SoT if run down to 1%. So I'd say I get on average 6.5h+ SoT.
I get better battery life at work, where my mobile signal is perfect connection, never searching. So that helps keep battery drain down.
- 90hz forced on always ( too nice and smooth not to keep on )
- Motion Sense off
- AoD on ( always on display )
- Location off always. Anything GPS related off
- Lift to reach on
- Tap display to turn on
- Display set to auto brightness always
I've always had it on, so, not sure what the difference is. But, my phone lasts from 6am and still has 30+ percent of battery left at 10pm. Definitely getting a full 20-24+ hours.
I have Soli on full, AOD, smooth display forced on, location on full, lift to wake off, tap to wake on, auto brightness on.
Does anybody use their Pixels with AOD off and Motion Sense on..? How's that affecting the battery..?
And, with that setup, when you reach for you phone, does it turn on the screen when the radar is triggered?
Yes that's the setup I have with only reach to wake turned on. Yes, it does wake up the screen and start looking for your face. Need to check the idle drain overnight.
Cant really say destroyed. It is a little less for me but definitely useable if one really likes the features. And thats coming from a small pixel 4.