Can I downgrade or am I stuck on Pie?
I had manually updated the firmware and bootloader is unlocked.
Ragarianok said:
Can I downgrade or am I stuck on Pie?
I had manually updated the firmware and bootloader is unlocked.
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I think I remember @JoeGatto said he did it no problem. Maybe he'll chime in
madbat99 said:
I think I remember @JoeGatto said he did it no problem. Maybe he'll chime in
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I asked the same thing in another thread, and also pmed JoeGatto, he did reply "factory resetting and flashing the stock Oreo ROM".
I saw one of your posts advising not to flash bootloader or gpt, will flashing these cause errors?
madbat99 said:
I think I remember @JoeGatto said he did it no problem. Maybe he'll chime in
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I managed to downgrade!
I basically followed the instructions here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g6/how-to/guide-faster-updated-guide-to-root-t3914228
Except I didn't flash gpt.bin and bootloader.img.
Hey @Ragarianok can you help me please? I want to downgrade and relock the bootloader of my moto g6 also. I would appreciate if you gave me your discord or something. Thanks!
The easiest thing to do would be to unlock the bootloader, flash recovery, and just install an Oreo rom (I recommend AOSP Extended) and Google apps
you could just flash an 8.x oero rom so there isn't anything to "downgrade" in the traditional sense.Also these Moto phones need sGSI and not just GSI , i think so.
tnx
MIN313 said:
The easiest thing to do would be to unlock the bootloader, flash recovery, and just install an Oreo rom (I recommend AOSP Extended) and Google apps
you could just flash an 8.x oero rom so there isn't anything to "downgrade" in the traditional sense.Also these Moto phones need sGSI and not just GSI , i think so.
tnx
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I do not want to install a custom rom/ AOSP, I just want to downgrade and then relock the bootloader in the downgraded version.
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Can anyone pls tel how do i downgrade from marshmallow 6.0.1 to lollipop 5.0.2?
Currently my bootloader version is 48.83. I dnt remember what it was on lollipop. Pls help!
Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.
spetrie said:
Just use your backup that you made prior to upgrading to Marshmallow. If you don't have the backup, just flash a different ROM. Plenty of guides on the site.
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I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.
If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
gauravrai said:
If u are on custom rom other than motorola marshmallow soak test ota.. you will not get ur phone bricked when downgrading. Hard brick occurs if u downgrad from soak test ota to lollipop. In your case u just need to flash retaildsdsall firmware via fastboot mood. Search for tutorials for reverting to stoc 5.0.2.
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I have made a nandroid backup. Currently m on nexus experience rom. One of my friend was in resurrection remix (marshmallow) he faced some bugs so he came back to lollipop. It worked fine for him. But when he tried to flash the soak test ota, he hard bricked his phone... Why did that happen??
rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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Currently my bootloader versuon is 48.83
What is the version on lollipop? Bootloader dsnt change on flashing roms ryt?
sumedhs said:
I have made the backup. But i have heard about many people hard bricking the phone when trying to downgrade and then again upgrading via ota. Thats why i askd.
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All I can say is that I was on Nexus Experience 10.0.4 (Marshmallow) but could not get adopted storage to work so restored my previous AOSP lollipop ROM from TWRP backup and no issues. My Bootloader is 48.82. I have never used the soak test version or OTA version of marshmallow.
I have also in the past restored stock lollipop V5.0.2 from other lollipop versions with no issues.
rcoacci said:
Just DON'T CHANGE BOOTLOADER. You shouldn't be able to downgrade bootloaders but Motorola screwed that and with M bootloader you "can" downgrade, but bootloader downgrade results in BRICK. Just flash the rom you want, EXCEPT THE BOOTLOADER. For custom roms you shouldn't have problems.
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which files or command to skip in this process
if u use L ROM then this one is the latest or last update of L ROM and i have used many days.........and its good.....its CM based LINK or If u like a pure Stock L ROM with Optimized then here it goes LINK
ezio1723 said:
which files or command to skip in this process
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Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them
rebzin said:
Same question here as well. Which command flashes the bootloader, so that I can skip them
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you can use easyinstaller file it will automatically flashes the files
My bootloader is 0×4887 I am running a stock mm and I wud like to downgrade to lollipop to use the stellar kernel way shud I do...???pls help
Just a noobie....
Sry if tat was bad English..!!
Just don't downgrade your Bootloader and you should be fine, if you're using an easyinstaller script to flash stock Lollipop make sure and remove the lines of code that flash motoboot.img & I'd also recommend removing the line that flashes gpt.bin to be safe.
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I'm with a custom rom that have android 6.0.1. Can I downgrade to another custom with 5.1.1??
xd3ath said:
Hello
I'm with a custom rom that have android 6.0.1. Can I downgrade to another custom with 5.1.1??
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Yes just check if you have the right booloader and modem.
Soufiansky said:
Yes just check if you have the right booloader and modem.
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And if I don't have? Will hardbrick my phone? And How to do that?
My experience is very limited
xd3ath said:
And if I don't have? Will hardbrick my phone? And How to do that?
My experience is very limited
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No there is no hardbrick . If you are not on the right bootloader and modem the rom may not boot , so you just flash the right ones.
If you want to came back to LP flash lollipop last booloader and modem and you are ready to go.
Basically , bootloader allows you to boot the rom , modem is everything related to signal , wifi...etc if you are in the wrong one you will not have signal or some things working
xd3ath said:
Hello
I'm with a custom rom that have android 6.0.1. Can I downgrade to another custom with 5.1.1??
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Yes, you can. First backup your android 6.0.1 from your recovery, in case something go wrong, you can go back.
Won't flashing/ downgrading the bootloader brick the phone ? How do you flash the LP bootloader and modem?Please can you give a step by step guide and where the correct files can be found? Thanks
Hello
I have a moto g titan xt1068 dual sim which was originally running stock lollipop 5.02 and was updated with the OTA stagefright update and then the OTA MM6.0 official by motorola.
I have since installed custom roms cyanogen 13.0 and cyanpop 6.2
I know my bootloader is now the latest, so my question is can I now only install MM based roms? or can I still install KK & LP based custom roms?
or will installing LP or KK based roms hard brick my device?
Many thanks for any help
i'd like to know it too...
I'm not sure, but I can't really see why not. The bootloader being the latest changes jack squat on the question of being able to install older versions of Android or not. I mean, I WAS able to install the stock LP ROM on the MM bootloader, but your mileage may vary.
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
sagar846 said:
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
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ooh yeah, i remember i installed the MM Stock, and after installed the KK Stock, and with KK made a OTA update to LP and bricked my phone :/
sagar846 said:
Yeah you can. Just don't try to downgrade your bootloader while downgrading to previous stock Android version. Itll brick your phone.
But just flashing custom Roms is safe.
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That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
zman01 said:
That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
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What if i downgrade to kk without downgrading the bootloader and then i flash back mm firmware? (with rsd lite for example)
h4ck3r00 said:
What if i downgrade to kk without downgrading the bootloader and then i flash back mm firmware? (with rsd lite for example)
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You can flash whatever version you want if you're not downgrading your BL
zman01 said:
You can flash whatever version you want if you're not downgrading your BL
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So, if am right, i can do whatever i want but i must not touch the bootloader.
Thanks man! :good:
h4ck3r00 said:
So, if am right, i can do whatever i want but i must not touch the bootloader.
Thanks man! :good:
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That's right.. You can touch your bootloader only when you have to upgrade it, for example in case of updating to Android N. Which I think will never happen (of course officially).
Here you can find a nice guide to downgrade your Android version.
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That's bullsh-t.. You can always downgrade your rom, but you have to be sure you're not downgrading your bootloader. So if you're using oneclick installer you have to remove the command from the script which will try to downgrade your bootloader. Also after downgrading you have to be super sure that you will not update it with OTA!
Btw.: I'm not sure downgrading through fastboot can even brick your phone.
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FFS, Did you actually read my post. I said NOT to Downgrade the bootloader while downgrading to a previous stock version via fastboot.
sagar846 said:
FFS, Did you actually read my post. I said NOT to Downgrade the bootloader while downgrading to a previous stock version via fastboot.
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Yeah sorry, I was a bit tired.
Thank you all for your help it is much appreciated.
I done it before on s9+ but i have read on some sites, that bootloader must be the same, my bootloader has the '7' bootloader but want to run a Oreo rom (exykings oreo light rom) can i just flash after clean flash, or is it not possible?
Thank you
biggary said:
I done it before on s9+ but i have read on some sites, that bootloader must be the same, my bootloader has the '7' bootloader but want to run a Oreo rom (exykings oreo light rom) can i just flash after clean flash, or is it not possible?
Thank you
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Not possible, you already answered yourself because you know you can't downgrade the bootloader and you can't run Oreo using the Pie bootloader.. If you're on an F version of the phone then you should be able to flash twrp and then flash whatever you want I'm assuming.
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Not possible, you already answered yourself because you know you can't downgrade the bootloader and you can't run Oreo using the Pie bootloader.. If you're on an F version of the phone then you should be able to flash twrp and then flash whatever you want I'm assuming.
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im on the F version
but didnt understand your post.... i can flash whatever i want????
biggary said:
im on the F version
but didnt understand your post.... i can flash whatever i want????
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If you want to downgrade from Pie - N950FXXS"7"DSG1 to Oreo - N950FXXS"6"DRE2 you CANNOT do it because the bootloader ver "7" won't allow itself to be downgraded to lower versions "6",5,4,3,2, and 1! You're stuck on PIE!
(The Number in Quotes is the bootloader version. )
If you root your phone you can try to see if the custom oreo rom will boot with bootloader version "7" by asking and searching in the custom rom (that you choose to run) thread.
Root does come with a few cons like permanently tripped knox, No Samsung pay, and no knox related apps so read up on it.
(You will lose secure folder and Samsung health if you go back to stock firmware! But if you stay rooted and on a custom rom then you'll have access to Samsung health and secure folder (Devs found a way to get secure folder working! Check the note 8 roms forums for info on it.)
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biggary said:
im on the F version
but didnt understand your post.... i can flash whatever i want????
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Read @BluePhnx post.. I already told you that you can't downgrade but you can root and flash twrp and then flash whatever roms that the devs have made for bootloader version 7! There's really no going back!
Before trying anything on my phone thought I wanna ask first.
I have an N960F, Exynos obviously; but I want to downgrade from Android 10 Q. I learned that I cannot flash official firmware via Odin that is based on an older bootloader version, say Oreo or Pie.
Would unlocking the bootloader change this case and allow me to flash Oreo again?
mhamdyl08 said:
Before trying anything on my phone thought I wanna ask first.
I have an N960F, Exynos obviously; but I want to downgrade from Android 10 Q. I learned that I cannot flash official firmware via Odin that is based on an older bootloader version, say Oreo or Pie.
Would unlocking the bootloader change this case and allow me to flash Oreo again?
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Sadly, no. Sorry man, the unlocking of the bootloader only allows for non-official binaries to be installed, such as TWRP, but nothing will let you go backward in bootloader versions. Sorry man
post up your entire firmware version so we can look around for ya and hopefully find a pie firmware for ya