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Which of the custom ROM do you find better than stock ROM, based on your own experience. What I'm missing by using stock ROM ? you think
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Hi,
Which of the custom ROM do you find better than stock ROM, based on your own experience. What I'm missing by using stock ROM ? you think
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I guess the answer is, it depends like everything else. Custom ROMs come in a great variety, AOSP, AOKP, TW, hybrid ones like Paranoid. Just flash and try
Personally I like TW. I tried Criskelo and Kingdroid, also tried paranoid(non TW). I liked Kingdroid the best. It has the newer version of TW(as opposed to the stock ROM), somewhat better battery life, more fluid IMHO, better performance overall.
ROMs are more like, to each their own. Try it, you have nothing to lose. I tried a few over a weekend, and settled on one that I dont change often because of lack of time.
I agree..
I agree, too.
Just one more suggestion as this could help you determine faster if the rom does what you need/want:
Root your phone and use a backup software (titanium or backup root, for example), saves you time
If you do this already nevermind
But to answer your question directly: most of the roms focus on smothness and stability, others implement whole new features (in paranoid rom you can choose for every app if you want the tablet or phone version) or make it easier to tweak your system (liquidsmooth would be my example for this). Also, there are several JellyBean ROMs which only miss a few features so you are always up to date and don't have to wait for Samsung's infamous touchwiz-"magic" to be applied...
And it actually teaches you a thing or two about Android and the development for it (at least it did for me )
Hope I could help
My MI3w is currently on MIUI 7 5.12.4 KK Dev ROM & I want to upgrade.
I need the basics to be reliably working, Camera, Calls, GPS, Gaming, Battery-life, etc.
So what is more stable/bugfree, an MM or lollipop rom? From what I have read, it seems like the marshmallow roms are fairly good at this point so I have been leaning towards either CM13 or Ivan's AOSP or possibly BeanStalk, any recommendations?
I have read a couple of posts that say the gaming & camera performance are better on lollipop, is that true?
I am also a bit confused on the whole partition resizing thing... Does that need to be done to use MM roms or can I flash as is? I read some things that seem to say CM13 works with the stock partition setup & Ivan's/MIUI MM requires expanding it, is that correct?
Also, I am still on the stock recovery so TWRP or CWM?
And can anyone suggest the best guide for upgrading from MIUI 7 KK? Some guides seem to assume you are already on a newer rom with custom recovery installed. And some seem to do the partition expansion while others don't mention it (I would prefer not to if it is not necessary).
Beanstalk 20-Jan build is pretty stable and can be used as daily driver.
AOSP/CAF based MM ROMs are the best. Ivan's one is good too. Though among all the ROMs I found CAF, CandySix great
Haven't used Ivan's rom but Beanstalk and Mokee latest build are pretty good.
Nintoad said:
My MI3w is currently on MIUI 7 5.12.4 KK Dev ROM & I want to upgrade.
I need the basics to be reliably working, Camera, Calls, GPS, Gaming, Battery-life, etc.
So what is more stable/bugfree, an MM or lollipop rom? From what I have read, it seems like the marshmallow roms are fairly good at this point so I have been leaning towards either CM13 or Ivan's AOSP or possibly BeanStalk, any recommendations?
I have read a couple of posts that say the gaming & camera performance are better on lollipop, is that true?
I am also a bit confused on the whole partition resizing thing... Does that need to be done to use MM roms or can I flash as is? I read some things that seem to say CM13 works with the stock partition setup & Ivan's/MIUI MM requires expanding it, is that correct?
Also, I am still on the stock recovery so TWRP or CWM?
And can anyone suggest the best guide for upgrading from MIUI 7 KK? Some guides seem to assume you are already on a newer rom with custom recovery installed. And some seem to do the partition expansion while others don't mention it (I would prefer not to if it is not necessary).
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1. from the MM roms I've seen, the base is already quite stable and matured, so the basics work on a decent maturity level. (I wouldn't know about the gaming performance though). In general the camera performance should not differ whether you use LP or MM, you can use the camera libs and apps with the same hardware.
I could recommend CAF, Slimbit, Beanstalk as daily drivers. The choice depends more on the additional features you would like to have. CAF and Slimbit has only the AOSP features, so I use Gravitybox to add what I like. But that's just personal preference.
2. the resizing: many roms need the "resized" system partitions already, the MM MIUI/ Ivan's MM AOSP need the "merged" partitions, an important difference in the update procedure.
I'd suggest you update to MIUI 7 5.12.17 CN Dev ROM, this should merge the partitions (better make a backup first). After that you can install any rom or recovery you prefer. (see also http://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3/general/mi3-4-marshmallow-6-0-5-12-24-alpha-t3280037)
Thanks for all the info! I did not know that installing MIUI MM rom would take care of the partition merging for me. All I have to do is just flash it in recovery in the usual way? I decided to just go ahead and dive in last night & installed TWRP & the latest CM13 nightly. But the main reason I choose CM13 was its support for the older partition setup.
I am stupid happy with the speed & snappiness vs MIUI KK, night & day difference is not strong enough, day & the center of a black hole is a more fitting contrast. The only issue I am having is the camera. Google camera is a buggy unusable mess, it constantly is freezing up and most features like lens blur just cause it to crash, is it the same on other MM roms? Or maybe does it have something to do with me having to flash the gapps pico pack because it is all that would fit with unmerged partitions?
I am also not a fan of the CM13 native camera app, it does not seem to have a way adjust the preview size from 16:9 so you don't know what is actually in frame before you snap. I use my phone for pics & video a lot & I have read some things saying that the camera quality on MIUI is a lot better than other roms, how true is that?
I haven't found a all in one solution for the camera, typically I use "a better camera" or "lenovo super camera" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2665714)
Nintoad said:
Thanks for all the info! I did not know that installing MIUI MM rom would take care of the partition merging for me. All I have to do is just flash it in recovery in the usual way? I decided to just go ahead and dive in last night & installed TWRP & the latest CM13 nightly. But the main reason I choose CM13 was its support for the older partition setup.
I am stupid happy with the speed & snappiness vs MIUI KK, night & day difference is not strong enough, day & the center of a black hole is a more fitting contrast. The only issue I am having is the camera. Google camera is a buggy unusable mess, it constantly is freezing up and most features like lens blur just cause it to crash, is it the same on other MM roms? Or maybe does it have something to do with me having to flash the gapps pico pack because it is all that would fit with unmerged partitions?
I am also not a fan of the CM13 native camera app, it does not seem to have a way adjust the preview size from 16:9 so you don't know what is actually in frame before you snap. I use my phone for pics & video a lot & I have read some things saying that the camera quality on MIUI is a lot better than other roms, how true is that?
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Alright First thing first... You'll need a extended partition table to install MM roms. The gapps packages are bit bulky so you need to be on extended partition table. Here you can find how to make extended partition table. As for beanstalk rom there is a tweak for the extended partition table, I'm not sure about other MM roms need that tweak or not, because I haven't tried those . AS for camera Beanstalk comes with new snapdragon camera comes with it's own tweak and it's pretty good and yes it's true that MIUI camera is good because of it's secret sauce, unfortunately the source is closed so developers are unable to port that sh*t. As for gapps open gapps pico or banks gapps are good. Rest is upto you and TWRP is recommended recovery.
As far as extending partition is concerned, use this method http://en.miui.com/thread-209941-1-1.html
This method is very easy and reliable and the partition table supports both miui and other mm roms.
Installing miui mm will give same partition table, but the process is cumbersome and you might face soft bricks if not done properly
I am mostly happy with CM13 but it is down to two issues that have me ready to try another rom. I am leaning towards giving BeanStalk a go.
CM13 issues
1. Google Camera is not usable. Can anyone confirm if it is working on BeanStalk or other roms?
2. Bluetooth does not consistently work. It will work a little while & then audio starts skipping & gamepads will not stay connected. The only fix seems to be rebooting but it soon stops working again. So can anyone confirm BT working on Beanstalk or another rom?
Nintoad said:
I am mostly happy with CM13 but it is down to two issues that have me ready to try another rom. I am leaning towards giving BeanStalk a go.
CM13 issues
1. Google Camera is not usable. Can anyone confirm if it is working on BeanStalk or other roms?
2. Bluetooth does not consistently work. It will work a little while & then audio starts skipping & gamepads will not stay connected. The only fix seems to be rebooting but it soon stops working again. So can anyone confirm BT working on Beanstalk or another rom?
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Yup!! It's Goole camera on Beanstalk but sometimes it's crashes during mode change.That is due to CM source code I guess, because it was working with previous builds. Bluetooth is also ,but Haven't checked with any gamepad though. It's working with normal file transfer. NFC is broken.
Beanstalk is my daily driver, it is pretty stable so far this is the best android 6.0 rom I have tried.
My phone went mad and downloaded 6.80gb stuff from online wasting my this month data package so i decided to update newest Chroma (about year old) to 7.1.1 stock rom + TWRP recovery + Franco kernel. As usually that felt like downgrade.
- Battery not shown as percentage
- Camera sound
- No dark/black theme
Many other issues cames too even i have used phone like 30min so i thought no point change settings more than that. I dont understand how hard can it be google to even try. I first time used android when it was something like 2.2.2 and still wondering same issues what i did then. I went from iPhone 2g to android and still miss what apple had by then and what android does not have even now but no can do.
I am not heavy user of my phone. I just want basic things to work. Is there some custom rom which is like chroma. I liked how chroma was like allmost stock rom but with couple of custom settings but its no longer continued so is there any rom which have taken it spot?
Wow, you went from a custom ROM to stock and you are missing features? Who would've guessed that?!?!
Sorry for the sarcasm lol. Flash literally any custom ROM and you should have those features. Most, if not all, N ROMs have Substratum/OMS which will allow for dark themes. Battery percentage should also be included in every ROM. Camera sound should be in most ROMs. As for me I'm still on Resurrection Remix M + xposed framework, which in my opinion has the most customization out of any possible Nexus 6 setup in the world.
I would suggest Pure Nexus to you which in my opinion is the closest to Chroma. But make a Nandroid backup and flash a few until you see what you like. Also checkout this YouTube channel which is amazing. @glockman4519 does awesome ROM overview videos if you want to get a feeler for something before flashing it.
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- Camera sound
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Do you refer to the camera shutter sound? If yes, you can't remove the sound on latest stock camera app...
I go with pure Nexus. Thanks for tip. I dont understand most of custom roms which are allways full of bugs. I never understanded either why there is need for over 10 diffrent rom for one device. Developers should work together and there would be only couple of very good roms to choose from but i know its hard people to work together so aint gonna happen
Running Pure Nexus on my wife's Shamu and on my angler. You shouldn't be disappointed. Just as you, i like simple cosmetic tweaks, dark themes, and it does the job. :good:
Resurrection Remix, @Neo style is my current dd. Every customization you could ever want is in there, but there are many great ROMs. PN is one that if you came from Chroma, you'll like. Nitrogen is good, et al. Just read the threads and give them a shot
HTC Tytn user 188 said:
My phone went mad and downloaded 6.80gb stuff from online wasting my this month data package so i decided to update newest Chroma (about year old) to 7.1.1 stock rom + TWRP recovery + Franco kernel. As usually that felt like downgrade.
- Battery not shown as percentage
- Camera sound
- No dark/black theme
Many other issues cames too even i have used phone like 30min so i thought no point change settings more than that. I dont understand how hard can it be google to even try. I first time used android when it was something like 2.2.2 and still wondering same issues what i did then. I went from iPhone 2g to android and still miss what apple had by then and what android does not have even now but no can do.
I am not heavy user of my phone. I just want basic things to work. Is there some custom rom which is like chroma. I liked how chroma was like allmost stock rom but with couple of custom settings but its no longer continued so is there any rom which have taken it spot?
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Sounds to me that you are going to like Pure Nexus since it has that Stock look and feel you want but with some extra and PN has extras.
The nice thing is you can pick and choose what features you want to run so you are in controle.
The rom does not come rooted because @BeansTown106 has decided that too many users are looking to pass the Safety Net Check for apps like Google Pay and some others that require your device be unaltered from stock. But if you want to run Substratum, you can either flash Chainfire's SuperSu sr3 v2.79 (or any systems suoerSu) or even flash Magisk Systems Root (I think it is up to v10 now) and that will allow for theming with Substratum.
That should get you pretty close, of not better than you g had with Chroma. PN is one of the most stable N roms out for the Nexus devices that I know. Another great rom would be SiX rom... But that is a whole nother story : )
I´ve been using Pure Nexus two days now. It seems usable but i dont know is it the 7.1.1 or the franco kernel or something like that but im having performance issues. Even clash of clans in own city does not work smoothly. Also camera shutter sound cannot be disabled. Otherwise i think all works as supposed to. When i installed rom i did clean install. I formated whole device including internal memory. Then i installed Pure nexus 7.1.1 + Full dynamic gapps + Franco newest kernel + Supersu
Anyone know whats the best kernel or do i just have to wait for updates on both rom and kernel?
EDIT: i will be now on pure nexus thread. Thanks for help.
@HTC Tytn user 188
The camera shutter sound can't be disabled with stock camera on 7.x Roms.
For performance issues, maybe try asking in The Rom/Kernel thread.
A combination you should test:
Crdroid rom, elementalx kernel, crystal tronik dark 12 substratum theme and latest beta nova launcher
gives me a lot of customizations, dark+blue look and good battery/performance
Works solid for me !
Hello. I just bought my brand new Oneplus 3T. I came from the LG G4. I always used custom roms on my android phones. Unfortunately I have a job now and I don't have much time to play/test all these roms around here.
I'm not asking "the best rom" or "which is better" sort of things.
I just need an opinion for what should I begin with?
I would prefer some stock based rom.
As about the kernel I heard a lot about Franco's kernel but I saw that there is Boeffla kernel too.
Don't get me wrong, I just need something to start from because as I mentioned above I don't have much time to test and choose which is best for me.
Thank you!
I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.
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I have tested many ROM's and I always come to the same conclusion. Stock is better. I recommend you to use stock OOS, root it and mod it as you wish. It's a powerful OS, without much bloatware (which can anyways be easily removed) and it offers a decent amount of customization. Of course, it's not as customizable as RR, but RR is also unstable and doesn't offer the same camera quality. In fact, most ROMs have a crappy camera. Except PA, apparently, which, of course, has other problems, like idle battery drain. You'll find something that won't make you happy in every rom you try. That was, at least, my experience. I have come to the conclusion that OOS does its job well.
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This is exactly what I want. I don't want a LineageOS based rom or something like this.
I want a STOCK based rom.
But I don't know with which rom should I start because I saw that there are a few.
Hmm, I'd say freedomOS. It's a very stable ROM, "daily driver" material. It gives you the option to kinda debloat it when you flash the ROM
If you are looking for maximum battery with average use then go for RR with EX Kernel.
Yeah Freedom OS is kind to install because you don't have to do the usual stuff manually, but I've personnaly not noticed anything you can't get on stock OOS.
I'd advice to stay stock, and if later you still want to try some new things there will be plenty of mod material here
If you want something else...try Phoenix AEX ROM..
Really different experience...( EAS based )
Hi, when you are new with this phone I personally would recommend OxygenOpen Beta.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/coming-update-oos-based-7-1-t3564240
This Rom has everything you want, for me absolut stable and has all features you need for normal use. Worth to have a look.
I always had custom Roms on my earlier phones, but this stock Rom is the best I have ever seen. I have unlocked bootloader and rootet phone but since I have my phone (since May) I flashed this Rom and there is no reason for me to change it:angel:
Greets, reinipic
ilooze said:
I always used custom roms on my android phones.
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Don't feel like you need to flash a custom ROM, just because you "always have". Try the stock OOS for a bit, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Stock OOS is very impressive. Very little bloat, really close to stock Android, nice customization options, and it just works. It's a big departure from the manufacturer "skins" applied by LG, Samsung, etc. which often (in my opinion) make too many changes, with little added value.
Although, I would suggest unlocking the bootloader now (instead of waiting) even if you do intend to try out the stock ROM for a while. Sinceit is a bit annoying having your data wiped (by unlocking the bootloader - it can't be avoided) and having to setup everything again, if you do decide to install a custom ROM, kernels, etc.
Stick to OOS. It's the best, really. Sultanxda's lineage is amazing for starters.
And Franco kernel on OOS is also "legendary"
Nevertheless, it's upto you to try and tell yourself what rom/kernel suits your needs.
Cheers!
That's the mistake you use custom roms. I always have stock rom on my every device
Stock open beta 10 with custom kernel(optional to remove dm verity flag) + magisk + safety net pass + adway + google assistant + dark mode.... thats it !
i can only find one derpest download here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/derpfest/files/
can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F, if someone has to try and its not suitable will it just not load, bits of it not work, or brick the fone. I nhave twrp installed so as long as I can get back to twrp I can go back to another rom.
Senior member please help, my knowledge is low, and really trying to understand this.
.....Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01, and where everything important, CAMERA bluetooth etc all work. If so may I have a link please. THANKyOOOOOO
I doubt it will be compatible with the Galaxy Note 4 but you could do a search from the link below. Good luck
https://derpfest.org/devices
gwm121 said:
i can only find one derpest download here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/derpfest/files/
can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F, if someone has to try and its not suitable will it just not load, bits of it not work, or brick the fone. I nhave twrp installed so as long as I can get back to twrp I can go back to another rom.
Senior member please help, my knowledge is low, and really trying to understand this.
.....Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01, and where everything important, CAMERA bluetooth etc all work. If so may I have a link please. THANKyOOOOOO
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There are 2 types of ROMS for the 910F:
a. stock - original mage by Samsung
b. custom roms AOSP based
Type b can be also divided in 2 -
b1. custom ROMs AOSP based
b2. custom ROMs ported from stock from other Samsung devices - but that involves HUGE amount of knowledge, time and resources spent to get them to work.
I suggest you go and READ and get as much info as you can to be able to understand these terms.
It's not hard, depending on your time and will.
As for your questions of derfest - it is an AOSP based ROM, but if no developer has built it on the official site, it's pretty hard to ask for it for the 910F. I saw no Samsung there.
"can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F" - yes, there is Lineage, RR, Havoc, AEX, etc - go check them in the dedicated section of the forum for your device.
"Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01"
There are pie style ROMs (as said above, go check them) faster than android 6. Android 6 was whatever you want, but not fast.
However, there's no pie ROMs ported from other Samsung devices to 910F.
Good luck.
note 4 sm910F custom roms fast stable .. and thankyou
Thank you for reply, appreciated. yes reading as much as possible.
I have rooted, loaded twrp, via odin,
and loaded threee of the four custom roms you mention, Lineage, RR, Havoc, and will look for AEX,
rr res remix is running now, however is slower than android 6.01, 55 seconds for cold start and generally a little laggy, and the camera intermiitntly freezes. Im reading everything I can, but dont understand if the camera problem is , ... a bug on rr, a bug on some camera apps including the one supplied with pico gapps,, an app ive loaded interfering with it or what. Ive seen comments about dirty load and clean load, and wipe with twrp default suggestions before loading rr,.
The reason for wanting a custom rom, is its nice to have both my fones with similar operating systems, the method of getting to app draw, unlocking fone swpe direction, accessing swype down shade are so different android 6 to pie,
and having apps like sonos being able to run
and possibly volte running tho no rom so far has done this.
If the disadvantages of a custom rom outweigh android 6 Ill look at going back to stock, Samsung wont supply the firmware but will do it at their shop!!
Android 6 had one feature better than pie I think, shade accessed by one sype down, and the initial screan names like wifi data in words beneath each item, thats so helpful no pie type rom so far has this
Again big thankyou for reply.
w41ru5 said:
There are 2 types of ROMS for the 910F:
a. stock - original mage by Samsung
b. custom roms AOSP based
Type b can be also divided in 2 -
b1. custom ROMs AOSP based
b2. custom ROMs ported from stock from other Samsung devices - but that involves HUGE amount of knowledge, time and resources spent to get them to work.
I suggest you go and READ and get as much info as you can to be able to understand these terms.
It's not hard, depending on your time and will.
As for your questions of derfest - it is an AOSP based ROM, but if no developer has built it on the official site, it's pretty hard to ask for it for the 910F. I saw no Samsung there.
"can a custom rom like this be loaded onto a samsung note 4 SM910F" - yes, there is Lineage, RR, Havoc, AEX, etc - go check them in the dedicated section of the forum for your device.
"Has anyone loaded ANY pie style rom onto note 4 sm910F which is as fast as the original android 6.01"
There are pie style ROMs (as said above, go check them) faster than android 6. Android 6 was whatever you want, but not fast.
However, there's no pie ROMs ported from other Samsung devices to 910F.
Good luck.
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gwm121 said:
Thank you for reply, appreciated. yes reading as much as possible.
I have rooted, loaded twrp, via odin,
and loaded threee of the four custom roms you mention, Lineage, RR, Havoc, and will look for AEX,
rr res remix is running now, however is slower than android 6.01, 55 seconds for cold start and generally a little laggy, and the camera intermiitntly freezes. Im reading everything I can, but dont understand if the camera problem is , ... a bug on rr, a bug on some camera apps including the one supplied with pico gapps,, an app ive loaded interfering with it or what. Ive seen comments about dirty load and clean load, and wipe with twrp default suggestions before loading rr,.
1. camera can't be as stock - original blobs (coding) of the app are Samsung proprietary, not open source, it's very difficult to have the same quality
2. coming from stock to custom ROM it's always recommended to format data (wipe is not enough) - that includes the internal storage, so save it before you do it
The reason for wanting a custom rom, is its nice to have both my fones with similar operating systems, the method of getting to app draw, unlocking fone swpe direction, accessing swype down shade are so different android 6 to pie, and having apps like sonos being able to run and possibly volte running tho no rom so far has done this.
these are your preferences, no comment here - however, volte is quite a specific thing, not all developers are bothered/care about it - so again, take it or leave it
If the disadvantages of a custom rom outweigh android 6 Ill look at going back to stock, Samsung wont supply the firmware but will do it at their shop!!
you can go back to stock if you would have made a back-up of stock with the fresh installed TWRP
or use Odin to flash with PC
Android 6 had one feature better than pie I think, shade accessed by one sype down, and the initial screan names like wifi data in words beneath each item, thats so helpful, no pie type rom so far has this
Again big thank you for reply.
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No problem glad I could help.
Have a nice day.