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I've found that after a period of time once the screen has turned off (5 to 10 mins) I need to double tap the screen, then double tap again to actually get it to wake up.
I'm on the .77 FW and while I've heard some of the earlier firmwares could be more responsive I found the screen was TOO responsive and prefer to stick on the latest firmware.
So now that we're all rooted etc, there must be some fix that can be done. Is it a case that the tap2wake process goes to "sleep" after a period of time and the first 2 taps wakes it?
If you move your phone first, then it will work by double tapping.
I think that quadruple tap works because one of those first two taps moves the phone.
Not from my experimentation. It doesn't seem to matter if i've moved it first or tapped it directly when it's sitting on the table. Then only factor that seems to matter is time since screen off.
Thanks for the input though.
It's kinda flaky in my experience. The new firmware did indeed add the "must move phone first" feature to the tap-to-wake, but sometimes two taps don't seem to register even after moving and I have to use the button. Might be something to do with the screen sensitivity being reduced combined with a screen protector perhaps?
I also found the firmware update messed with the proximity sensor and my screen now fails to come on when I want to end a call and move the phone away from my ear. Means I have to use the button to turn on the screen to hang up. Very annoying.
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It's kinda flaky in my experience. The new firmware did indeed add the "must move phone first" feature to the tap-to-wake, but sometimes two taps don't seem to register even after moving and I have to use the button. Might be something to do with the screen sensitivity being reduced combined with a screen protector perhaps?
I also found the firmware update messed with the proximity sensor and my screen now fails to come on when I want to end a call and move the phone away from my ear. Means I have to use the button to turn on the screen to hang up. Very annoying.
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I'm on A.5.77, which is the latest, right?
I have this issue about 5% of the time, 95% of the time even if I have the phone lying still on the table double tap works. Must be something (also) else than the firmware!
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It's kinda flaky in my experience. The new firmware did indeed add the "must move phone first" feature to the tap-to-wake
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double tap works first time every time even if the phone has been sitting still and idle for 10 hours.
I know theres a few people who have this problem but its something other than just the new firmware.
I'm curious who has a screen protector and who is using a launcher other than stock (or indeed is rooted). I suspect my screen protector and Nova Launcher are not helping matters, but in my case it was definitely brought on by the new firmware. Before that update I had never experienced any double-tap failure at all... it was 100% reliable.
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I'm curious who has a screen protector and who is using a launcher other than stock (or indeed is rooted). I suspect my screen protector and Nova Launcher are not helping matters, but in my case it was definitely brought on by the new firmware. Before that update I had never experienced any double-tap failure at all... it was 100% reliable.
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You could be onto something with Nova Launcher. I switched back to the stock launcher and I think things have improved...
had a tempered glass protector on from day one, phone has always been stock, no other launcher. T2W worked brilliantly until the latest firmware update. frustrating when the phone is the car mount, i have to hit the power button to get the screen on instead of just tap-tap.
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You could be onto something with Nova Launcher. I switched back to the stock launcher and I think things have improved...
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Full day's use now and replacing Nova launcher with Apex has definitely improved things.
Might help others in the same situation who are scratching their heads wondering why everyone else seems to have perfect tap2wake.
Tried Apex for a day as well. No different than Nova for me.
hey, just figured out something, by accident.
yup, double tap to wake is still mucked up from the latest update (unless the phone is picked up first) but TRIPLE TAP to wake works consistently for me after the phone has been flat/unmoved for some time.
tap-tap-tap
AM Radio said:
hey, just figured out something, by accident.
yup, double tap to wake is still mucked up from the latest update (unless the phone is picked up first) but TRIPLE TAP to wake works consistently for me after the phone has been flat/unmoved for some time.
tap-tap-tap
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Not working here.
I have a Nillkin tempered glass on mine though.
quack3d said:
I have a Nillkin tempered glass on mine though.
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me too. weird. fingers crossed the next update takes care of this, properly.
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...TRIPLE TAP to wake works consistently for me after the phone has been flat/unmoved for some time.
tap-tap-tap
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Works for me too. [emoji4]
Did Lollipop fix this problem?
quack3d said:
Did Lollipop fix this problem?
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Not really. In fact it got worse.
quarrymanpaul said:
I've found that after a period of time once the screen has turned off (5 to 10 mins) I need to double tap the screen, then double tap again to actually get it to wake up.
I'm on the .77 FW and while I've heard some of the earlier firmwares could be more responsive I found the screen was TOO responsive and prefer to stick on the latest firmware.
So now that we're all rooted etc, there must be some fix that can be done. Is it a case that the tap2wake process goes to "sleep" after a period of time and the first 2 taps wakes it?
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Well, I can tell you why this is happening. this happened to me, because I just had too many xposed modules.. once I got rid of them, everything went back to normal
Been a long time since I've posted here but found this thread as had the same issue when the phone is flat on a table.
Anyway, think I've found a solid solution or work around, depends how you look at it. If you use just an extended finger, all other fingers closed or away from the phone, it's very inconsistent but mostly unresponsive.
Solution: grip the top and bottom of the phone lightly with your thumb and middle or 4th finger at the same time as tapping the screen with your index finger. Works every time for me.
So Sony's reduced the sensitivity to the point where it needs additional capacitance so it knows you are holding the phone and it won't unlock in your pocket. Makes sense.
pretty frastrating here too.. but really can't find out the main reason of the problem here as immediately when I got the phone I rooted it, flashed .77, replaced stock launcher with nova, installed expsed and 2-3 modules :crying:
will try the three-taps and olding-phone+index-finger-tapping workarounds, thanks for the hints
Hi,
I have a Moto G 2014 dual sim 5" phone (XT1068). For the last 6 months the screen as been turning black when I'm using it like it has gone to sleep. I hit the wake up button and the lock screen is displayed. I swipe the screen to unlock the phone and it then turns to a black screen again. I have to do this for around 30 seconds until the phone behaves normally again. It happens at random times. I have tried doing a factory reset but this didn't fix it. I then unlocked the bootloader and rooted it and stuck a custom ROM on it (Blisspop) but it is still doing it! Anyone know the reason for this? Thanks.
Tried reflashing stock?
Do you have it in a flip case?
spielleips said:
Do you have it in a flip case?
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Yes....it is in one with magnets that wakes it up when you open the flip case.
Vatsal said:
Tried reflashing stock?
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No, not yet. Do you think that might help?
Dagk66 said:
Yes....it is in one with magnets that wakes it up when you open the flip case.
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Same here. The magnets also turn the screen off. When you flip the lid around the back, they are strong enough to activate the sensor and turn the screen off.
There is an Xposed module which you can use to control this behavior. From memory (I don't have it installed right now) you can selectively tell it to ignore the turn off message but keep the turn on message. I think there was something about turning it off using the proximity sensor as well, so it will still turn off when you close the lid.
In fact, I'll install it again, I forgot how useful it is.
UPDATE: The Xposed module is called MagnetOff. If you want to have your phone turn off when you close your case, you'll need to look into an app to use the proximity sensor to do it (I used to use Tasker).
spielleips said:
Same here. The magnets also turn the screen off. When you flip the lid around the back, they are strong enough to activate the sensor and turn the screen off.
There is an Xposed module which you can use to control this behavior. From memory (I don't have it installed right now) you can selectively tell it to ignore the turn off message but keep the turn on message. I think there was something about turning it off using the proximity sensor as well, so it will still turn off when you close the lid.
In fact, I'll install it again, I forgot how useful it is.
UPDATE: The Xposed module is called MagnetOff. If you want to have your phone turn off when you close your case, you'll need to look into an app to use the proximity sensor to do it (I used to use Tasker).
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You might well have cracked it! I never thought of this. It is my wife's phone and she always folds the cover around the back. I have ordered a non magnetic wallet and will test with that. Is this 'Xposed module' an app that you can download from the play store? Would come in useful if thsi is what is causing it. Did you phone suffer from the same thing? I was already fighting with Motorola about the warranty cover because I had unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. If this is all it is then thank you so much!!!!!
spielleips said:
Same here. The magnets also turn the screen off. When you flip the lid around the back, they are strong enough to activate the sensor and turn the screen off.
There is an Xposed module which you can use to control this behavior. From memory (I don't have it installed right now) you can selectively tell it to ignore the turn off message but keep the turn on message. I think there was something about turning it off using the proximity sensor as well, so it will still turn off when you close the lid.
In fact, I'll install it again, I forgot how useful it is.
UPDATE: The Xposed module is called MagnetOff. If you want to have your phone turn off when you close your case, you'll need to look into an app to use the proximity sensor to do it (I used to use Tasker).
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Just seen your update! Thanks very much! I will keep you posted.
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Just seen your update! Thanks very much! I will keep you posted.
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You're very welcome, hopefully it solves your problem.
I've got into the habit of keeping one finger in between the cover and the phone when I flip it around, so I don't use the software anymore. The main reason I originally found it was for the magnetic phone holder in my car. If I put it too much too the left the screen would turn off and keep turning off when I turned it on, but I don't use it any more.
That's totally fixed it! Thanks so much. :good:
I just updated my LG G4 h811 to the newest build for lineage OS 10 / 24 and tap to wake is no longer working the way it's supposed to only one in about every 20 attempts it will turn on is there any way to fix this or do I have to wait for a new update?
Same here, not sure how to fix it.
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Same here, not sure how to fix it.
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I've been looking everywhere and can't find anything to solve it I've even changed to a different ROM CR Droid so I'm not sure what's causing it it may possibly be Hardware but I really doubt it since it was only after an update
i have it to. try KDZ if its same then its a hardware problem. like mine i tried and same for all roms sometimes it turns on inside pocket. very sensitive . sometimes just place my palm in screen and turns on. now it doesnt turn on lol not even tapping 1000 times.
if you have warranty send it to repair. if that is important get another screen.
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i have it to. try KDZ if its same then its a hardware problem. like mine i tried and same for all roms sometimes it turns on inside pocket. very sensitive . sometimes just place my palm in screen and turns on. now it doesnt turn on lol not even tapping 1000 times.
if you have warranty send it to repair. if that is important get another screen.
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I remember having this problem on my LG G3 and thinking that a new screen would solve it it turned out to be the processor... Hopefully that's not the case here but sometimes when I use the button to turn on the screen it comes on but extremely dim I have to turn it off and turn it back on again so I'm thinking maybe it is a processor on the G4 as well
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I remember having this problem on my LG G3 and thinking that a new screen would solve it it turned out to be the processor... Hopefully that's not the case here but sometimes when I use the button to turn on the screen it comes on but extremely dim I have to turn it off and turn it back on again so I'm thinking maybe it is a processor on the G4 as well
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well not sure what causes it. but on mine waking it up dont work anymore unless it gets sensitive again... wierd thing is double tap to sleep works everytime. when screen on .. only waking up phone is the problem
raptorddd said:
well not sure what causes it. but on mine waking it up dont work anymore unless it gets sensitive again... wierd thing is double tap to sleep works everytime. when screen on .. only waking up phone is the problem
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Yes same with mine I can tap to sleep and it works every single time no problems but tap to wake does not work very often sometimes it takes up to 20 tries to get it to work
virgil1381 said:
Yes same with mine I can tap to sleep and it works every single time no problems but tap to wake does not work very often sometimes it takes up to 20 tries to get it to work
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am afraid its hardware related not software.. i already searched alot and found nothing.
Yeah, I luckily have the insurance, but last time my brother sent his they sent him back a G4 with boot loop issue lmao. So, for right now, I've just been using the power button. As for me, knock to wake, knock code, pull down status bar all doesn't work. Sometimes it will randomly work but tap to sleep works fine.
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am afraid its hardware related not software.. i already searched alot and found nothing.
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An app i have been using called KinScreen.
It works by waving your hand over the proximity sensor to turn the screen on. I have been using it a week or so and it doesn't seem to use a lot of battery power. I am using it on LineageOS.
fuzzy_ said:
An app i have been using called KinScreen.
It works by waving your hand over the proximity sensor to turn the screen on. I have been using it a week or so and it doesn't seem to use a lot of battery power. I am using it on LineageOS.
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I tried that one also but it wakes up when you put it in your pocket and sometimes you end up pocket dialing people
fuzzy_ said:
An app i have been using called KinScreen.
It works by waving your hand over the proximity sensor to turn the screen on. I have been using it a week or so and it doesn't seem to use a lot of battery power. I am using it on LineageOS.
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sorry am out of thanks button .. yes ive use one not sure if same. back when glaxy S2 skyrocket but it drain battery. and in our G4 battery isnt the best, so i rather use the power button. thanks:good:
I've the same problem since custom ROM(Android-Pie).
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LG-LS991-UsU(ARB2) with h811-nonUsU | RR(v7.0.2) based android_Pie.
Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
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Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
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Yep I have the same thing... Today my pocket took 9599295 pictures and movies.. also when I'm a bit sweat my pocket dial random numbers. I've noticed that when screen is touched and disnt recognize fingerprint then whole lockscreen shows up and its easy way to random open dial or camera... Its rly anoying, because I dont want to hide phone screen outside of the skin. (Its easier to break screen if I hit something with my leg.)
Dunno why it doesnt use proximity sensor to recognize that phone is in the pocket like every other brand... :/
Do you have the double tap to wake up activated?
I had this problem a while ago and it was the double tap that played all kinds of tricks calling emergency and taking pictures in my pocket! Disable double tap to wake up screen and the problem goes away.
Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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My only solution was to buy a flip case. At first, I disabled the fingerprint reader by removing all fingerprints and setting up face recognition, but this didn’t fix the problem you are talking about. I don’t really like flip cases, but the Nillkin QIN Smartcase is rather good.
So now I ‘m eagerly awaiting a fix from Xiaomi so I can strip the Mi9 again!
Gokh said:
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
j4dotcc said:
Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. I don't have the problem and just wanted to know where I can disable the fingerprint icon. Thanks again.
New uppdate out that include Pocket Mode. MIUI-V10.2.27.0PFAEUXM EEA version.
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
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Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
KingFatty said:
Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
KingFatty said:
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
enigmaamit said:
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
ELp2 said:
What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat