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Speaker + camera quality.

Own and love the Galaxy Nexus, I think 16gb is well more than enough storage for on-the-go music and app combination.
The two major issues I have with it however are:
1) The camera quality.
I find the image quality quite grainy after taking photos. The camera just doesn't cut it for me. However I'm hoping that the 8MP camera on the Nexus4 (I know megapixels isn't everything) will solve that issue.
***2) THE SPEAKER LOUDNESS***
I think of the old Christmas poem "Night Before Christmas"...
"'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even the Gnexus at max volume".
That'll be the deciding factor on if I'll be picking up the phone or not, in all honesty.
Love you XDA,
-Aero

Well its not release yet, but we can take a few clues.
Base on this review: www.youtube.com/watch?v=a24txcFBWyE
the LG Optimus G have very weak speaker, saying that when on its back, one might even miss a phone call. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it will be the same for the Nexus 4.
As for camera, I have no proof that the 8MP camera of this device is similar to one on the Optimus G for ATT, but maybe if it is, we can look at those sample shots posted online. I think the general consensus is its not that great and might have trouble under low lighting. Overall I think it will be at least better than the current 5MP which is enough for me.
Just wait for feedbacks from other buyers before making the purchase.
PS. I still laugh at the fact when the Galaxy Nexus was just released people claimed its 5MP camera is better than the SII camera, even with side by side pictures comparison.
I'm disappointed it won't support GLONASS, base on the specs from the PlayStore.

The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.

kotaro_14 said:
The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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f2.4
i really love Nexus 4 but One X camera is amazing
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Well, just a very very simple thought: they advertise with their new feature, that panorama thing .. that's one selling point.. so the camera quality MUST be good, right?
Oh man, but I just remember Apple's Maps service ... hmmm.

Here's hoping both are better on the Nexus 4 as they are both somewhat of a disappointment on my Galaxy Nexus for me.
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From Josh Topolsky's initial impressions, he stated that the camera performance was a big improvement, and that Google has specifically concentrated on low-light performance. I have high hopes that a Sony sensor, let alone a BSI sensor, leads to respectable if not admirable image quality. If the f/2.4 aperture is an indication, we could easily see this sensor beat the GS3 in terms of how much light it lets in, but it all comes down to how aggressive noise correction is, which is entirely software, and affects image sharpness the most.

While the camera is a big deal to me (a BIG deal), what I'm more worried about is the speaker/earpiece output. As everyone knows, the GNex speaker and earpiece aren't great (that's putting it mildly), so I'm really hoping this phone has great speaker/earpiece volume. Do I expect it to rival my SIII? No. But being able to actually use the phone as a PHONE in a crowded place and being able to hear would be nice.

According to Cnet- The battery life and Camera are the two weakest points of the Optimus G (ATT)- its unbelievable how the google nexus phones have sourly disappointing cameras year after year.
It is becoming a HUGE feature for people- and while software can correct come issues- hopefully it does, it has to have a good sensor to start- which the LG should.
I guess we will have to wait for a proper review to get some camera samples. that is def make or break for me. coming from a One X, so camera bar is set rather high

Sony makes the camera for the legendary iPhones so I don't see why they would disappoint now.

Wonder how it would compare to the Lumia 920

shea-bird said:
According to Cnet- The battery life and Camera are the two weakest points of the Optimus G (ATT)- its unbelievable how the google nexus phones have sourly disappointing cameras year after year.
It is becoming a HUGE feature for people- and while software can correct come issues- hopefully it does, it has to have a good sensor to start- which the LG should.
I guess we will have to wait for a proper review to get some camera samples. that is def make or break for me. coming from a One X, so camera bar is set rather high
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ATT Optimus G has 13 mpx camera and LTE.
maybe that's why google decided to go without the 13 mpx camera and without LTE.
the 8 mpx camera which is also used in the sprint version is supposed to be better.
and leaving out LTE saves battery.

hsrn said:
ATT Optimus G has 13 mpx camera and LTE.
maybe that's why google decided to go without the 13 mpx camera and without LTE.
the 8 mpx camera which is also used in the sprint version is supposed to be better.
and leaving out LTE saves battery.
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you got it reversed, Att model has the 8mp camera while the sprint version has the 13mp camera.

kotaro_14 said:
The camera uses a Sony BSI Sensor, so I'm sure images will be crisp and sharp. Not sure what aperture it uses though, hopefully a f2.4/2.6.
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Im sorry but how do you know that it has a Sony BSI Sensor ?
I mean that would be great as Sony makes the best sensors right now …
Thats pretty much one of my biggest selling points as i use the cameras a lot..

It was mentioned in the video done by The Verge.

Gayga
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Aerolith514 said:
Wonder how it would compare to the Lumia 920
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I dont expect the 920 to be great...the 900 was overhyped with the ziess lens and was garbage. the 920 will have GREAT low light photos- that much we know...as for regular performance, I think it will still be slightly below the top notch camera phones (S3, OneX, iphone, etc)
Praying the nexus 4 has a great camera...if so, I will snatch it up.

and what about capture speed ?
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The One Series camera's and the Lumia 920 have a lower aperture f2.0 which is better suited for low light conditions. Now I'm pleased with the HOX camera, this has to be on par at least for day shots as I rarely take that many low light shots.
Be interesting to know what BSI module it uses so we can make comparisons!

I hope the camera is good same as speakers..

Pixel Camera to Note 8 Camera Thoughts

If you owned a Pixel or Pixel XL previously and now have the Note 8, what are your thoughts on the camera? I adore the camera on the Pixel because without tweaking anything, I know I can get a fantastic picture anytime. No shutter lag, good color, little blur. How's this compare? Anyone who has kids especially, because those moving targets are tricky but important to me!

I've seen countless of comparisons and here is my conclusion:
Daylight - Pixel wins due to better dynamic range
Room light - Somewhat of a tie. Pixel has better dynamic range but can introduce some noise and blurriness due to lack of OIS and high ISO.
Lowlight - Note8 wins here with much less blur, and noise.
Camera app - Note8 wins easily. Pro mode.
Video - Note8 overall wins this category. Better details in 4K mode, and better stabilization in 1440p/1080p mode.
Audio - Easily the Note8/S8. Pixel has a really ****ty mic and Samsung devices often have one of the best mics even better than LG and HTC's.

One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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jason504 said:
One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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Seriously, what does this have to do with the camera?

jal3223 said:
Seriously, what does this have to do with the camera?
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I don't care had to say it.
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Coming from someone who had the pixel, I prefer the note 8 camera better. I think it has to do with the over saturation Samsung does with their picture. They pop and things stand out big time. I know a lot of people don't like this, as its not a true depiction of the subject you are taking a picture of

Has anyone tried loading the Google camera apk with hdr auto that was floating around XDA?

jason504 said:
One thing... The Pixel is a ugly phone. Probably one of the ugliest phone out there. This is coming from a die hard Nexus user. Once they made the pixel I was out for life.
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Random, but okay. I put cases in my phones so I don't care what the back looks like. It's easily the best phone I've ever owned so I don't care about something that is silly to me, like looks. It's a phone. Rarely does anyone care what a phone looks like (except maybe the HTC U11).

Help, S10 Camera overly processed soft, S8 much better

Well I'm stumped.. I recently got an S10 as the Huawei fiasco finally helped me chose the Samsung over it. I have had an S8 for 2 years and liked it very much but was looking forward to the improved cameras on the S10.
After testing it numerous times and comparing I couldn't believe it - The S10 jpgs are overly processed, even in ok indoor lighting (ISO 400 or less) to the point where they are actually much much worst than my S8.
As a comparison, see the attached pics that speak for themselves. S8 on the left, S10 on the right. Granted these aren't perfect but they are within the same lighting conditions, no tweaking (full auto) and take from the same angle. I think the Laserdisc wall one is the most convincing. I am using a SD855 variant with the latest updates
Have I got a defective unit ? Reviewers out there have been praising the S10 camera as being amongst the best if not the best. I can't believe the S8 would be giving considerably better results ?!

Well, comparing the RAW from the S8 and S10 it does look like the S10 is faring a bit better I would say (more details) so that was even more surprising. I tried the Gcam app with settings for S10 and it seems to confirm that the issue is directly tied to the Samsung app and processing. I had read that it was very agressive in noise reduction but it wasn't has bad on the S8 by an important margin. Moreoever, comparing the file sizes from Gcam to Samsung Cam indicates a way heavier compression on Samsung's part (same pic is 2.2 MB Gcam, 800kb SCam). See attached Gcam left, SCam right, should be obvious by now).

I agree, very disappointing. The s7 was better even, IMO. Using the Google camera port had gotten me excellent results, though, so I'm still satisfied with the phone overall. I really hope Samsung fixes their app, but I'm not holding my breath.

mhill1986 said:
I agree, very disappointing. The s7 was better even, IMO. Using the Google camera port had gotten me excellent results, though, so I'm still satisfied with the phone overall. I really hope Samsung fixes their app, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Which version of Gcam are you using? Do you know if telephoto is supposed to work on it? I get standard and wide but suspect that zooming is only digital. As well, no pro mode on gcam?

do any of the gcam apks support the wide angle on the s10e?

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Which version of Gcam are you using? Do you know if telephoto is supposed to work on it? I get standard and wide but suspect that zooming is only digital. As well, no pro mode on gcam?
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I'm using the version in my screenshot with the s10cs2.xml configuration from the gcam thread. Telephoto doesn't work. I also have turned off Pixel 3 AWB and have set exposure compensation to +0,8
Hope that helps.
Edit: turning off Pixel 3 AWB made a huge difference for the better in the color of my photos.

mhill1986 said:
I'm using the version in my screenshot with the s10cs2.xml configuration from the gcam thread. Telephoto doesn't work. I also have turned off Pixel 3 AWB and have set exposure compensation to +0,8
Hope that helps.
Edit: turning off Pixel 3 AWB made a huge difference for the better in the color of my photos.
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Interesting I'm on 1.5 with top motion XML. I assume it must be quite similar but it does have pixel 3 awb enabled I'll try turning it off, thanks.

Straight tripping dude. This camera is phenomenal. I was just at a pool party and was getting better, clearer, pictures than my step daughter was talking with her iPhone X.
I don't see any difference in your first set of photos. Not sure what the second set is supposed to be highlighting. The colors seem very vivid and the contrast looks spot on. The lighting isn't perfect but that's not the cameras fault.

razen_kain said:
Straight tripping dude. This camera is phenomenal. I was just at a pool party and was getting better, clearer, pictures than my step daughter was talking with her iPhone X.
I don't see any difference in your first set of photos. Not sure what the second set is supposed to be highlighting. The colors seem very vivid and the contrast looks spot on. The lighting isn't perfect but that's not the cameras fault.
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The OP's assessment is right on in my experience, but if you're happy with it, enjoy! I wish I was happy with the camera, but it is just too processed for my taste. Anyway, as I said earlier, I'm thankful for the Gcam option.

Just switched form the note 10

Hi guys just switched from my note 10 plus and what a device this is :good:
So underrated from all the YouTube reviews ect
Just a couple of questions is there a way to make the torch brighter? It gets quite bright as a flash for the camera just quite dim as a torch
Is there mod to make Bluetooth audio a little bit louder as I've paired my galaxy buds up and although they sound great just could use a bit more volume
And is it possible to have the ringtone come from both speakers and loudspeaker from both speakers
Also have a iPhone 11 pro max as I ordered both phones and going to chose one and send the other back hopefully I'll make the right choice and keep the Xperia lol

You can change both with root
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niaboc79 said:
You can change both with root
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Thanks I haven't rooted a Sony device since I think the Xperia z3
Is it still the same experience of loosing DRM keys and bravia engine and I think a few camera tweaks the lent we root or has all that gone and we can root without any comprimasing?
Because if so I'll root right away just don't like damaging non of the Sony software
Thanks

brockyneo said:
Thanks I haven't rooted a Sony device since I think the Xperia z3
Is it still the same experience of loosing DRM keys and bravia engine and I think a few camera tweaks the lent we root or has all that gone and we can root without any comprimasing?
Because if so I'll root right away just don't like damaging non of the Sony software
Thanks
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Unfortunately you will be loosing drm and a few features.
It doesn't worth rooting for a torch and Bluetooth audio level.
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Hey did you ever decide? Did you keep the 1 II?
brockyneo said:
Hi guys just switched from my note 10 plus and what a device this is :good:
So underrated from all the YouTube reviews ect
Just a couple of questions is there a way to make the torch brighter? It gets quite bright as a flash for the camera just quite dim as a torch
Is there mod to make Bluetooth audio a little bit louder as I've paired my galaxy buds up and although they sound great just could use a bit more volume
And is it possible to have the ringtone come from both speakers and loudspeaker from both speakers
Also have a iPhone 11 pro max as I ordered both phones and going to chose one and send the other back hopefully I'll make the right choice and keep the Xperia lol
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tessorodesoto said:
Hey did you ever decide? Did you keep the 1 II?
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I still have the Xperia yes but I also have the S20 ultra coming tomorrow so going to decide out the 2 and keep one

You have your plate full at this point . I am waiting for the 1II, but also thinking about a 12 Pro, and a Galaxy Fold or s20+. Plz post your findings, and good luck.
brockyneo said:
I still have the Xperia yes but I also have the S20 ultra coming tomorrow so going to decide out the 2 and keep one
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tessorodesoto said:
You have your plate full at this point . I am waiting for the 1II, but also thinking about a 12 Pro, and a Galaxy Fold or s20+. Plz post your findings, and good luck.
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Well I have both in hand now and I can honestly say uli think the Xperia has the better display it doesn't get as bright but it's definitely better quality not only that the S20 has a yellow display no matter what I adjust its just not as blue in the sky's ect on videos on YouTube ect
The speaker sound better on the Xperia and it's the first time I'm trying high refresh rate and to be honest I'm not mind blowen yeh it's smother but sacrifice resolution which I'd rather have
Cameras hit and miss on both to be honest I'm not a pro so I'm shooting in auto on the Xperia SP don't know which is the best on that
But the S20 ultra is costing quite a bit more them my Xperia and it's not a lot better the the Xperia
Just wished the Xperia display got brighter

Oh man, there is always something, compromises... I had a 120hz phone in the past and the only thing it did was to drain battery. You can notice the difference is you scroll a pdf, but i had it disabled most of the time. Counting on the blur reduction feature to make things smoother. Anyway, thanks for the heads up, the one thing I like about sonys is design, and the notification light, jack is a plus, but not a deal breaker, cameras I wish they were better, like amazing good, but there is so much you can do without computational photography and a small sensor, so basically, I am covered with design alone. Curious about the galaxy fold though. Iphones seem very disappointing this year...

tessorodesoto said:
Oh man, there is always something, compromises... I had a 120hz phone in the past and the only thing it did was to drain battery. You can notice the difference is you scroll a pdf, but i had it disabled most of the time. Counting on the blur reduction feature to make things smoother. Anyway, thanks for the heads up, the one thing I like about sonys is design, and the notification light, jack is a plus, but not a deal breaker, cameras I wish they were better, like amazing good, but there is so much you can do without computational photography and a small sensor, so basically, I am covered with design alone. Curious about the galaxy fold though. Iphones seem very disappointing this year...
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Biggest thing for me is how white the whites are on the Xperia compared to the S20 it's night and day if the Xperia would get just a few bits brighter I think it would be easily the best display out there

I had the xperia 1, and although it was on the dimmer side when in auto, it would go really bright outdoors, as long as you have it in auto. In manual the brightest wasnt enough for outdoor viewing . They do that to prevent extended max brightest from the user.

tessorodesoto said:
I had the xperia 1, and although it was on the dimmer side when in auto, it would go really bright outdoors, as long as you have it in auto. In manual the brightest wasnt enough for outdoor viewing . They do that to prevent extended max brightest from the user.
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It's mainly when watching hdr videos just wish it went a bit brighter then otherwise outdoor visibility has been fine for me

Well I had the iPhone 11 pro max,S20 ultra,Xperia MK2
And I've decided to keep the Xperia so much better then the other two
So mush faster and smoother it's unreal (might be exynos on the S20)
The display,speakers,software,and dare I say cameras are just so much better on the Xperia
Only gripe just wished the display for a bit brighter and high refresh rate but apart from that definitely the better device in my opinion
Oh and the display callabration is asking on the Xperia the S20 looked yellow and no where near as nice considering its ment to be the best display on the market

Haha I had the S20+ exynos. What a disaster. Xperia 1ii is great

brockyneo said:
Well I had the iPhone 11 pro max,S20 ultra,Xperia MK2
And I've decided to keep the Xperia so much better then the other two
So mush faster and smoother it's unreal (might be exynos on the S20)
The display,speakers,software,and dare I say cameras are just so much better on the Xperia
Only gripe just wished the display for a bit brighter and high refresh rate but apart from that definitely the better device in my opinion
Oh and the display callabration is asking on the Xperia the S20 looked yellow and no where near as nice considering its ment to be the best display on the market
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Did you happen to compare to the Pixel 4 XL?

y2jdmbfan said:
Did you happen to compare to the Pixel 4 XL?
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Pixel 4 doesn't even get close. Has worse display (except refresh rate), subpar build quality and mediocre camera. I admire it's camera though but that's about it

mehdi_s82 said:
Pixel 4 doesn't even get close. Has worse display (except refresh rate), subpar build quality and mediocre camera. I admire it's camera though but that's about it
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I was referring to camera. Thanks!

y2jdmbfan said:
I was referring to camera. Thanks!
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Sorry didn't get that. I have compared them side by side and so did some reviewers. Bottom line is in some scenarios Sony does better in some others Pixel. HDR mode is for sure better on Pixel so is quick point and shoot. Overall, 1 ii can take spectacular shots if you master photo pro
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mehdi_s82 said:
Pixel 4 doesn't even get close. Has worse display (except refresh rate), subpar build quality and mediocre camera. I admire it's camera though but that's about it
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Im basing this on the 4XL and I have to disagree. Superior photos from the pixel for a few hundred £ cheaper than the Xperia 1 ii so I'm sending it back. I should of learnt lesson the from the Xperia 1.
After a day's use the screens just look the same but 90hz beats motion blur every time.
Build quality is fine on both, just different materials. Both have their own issues.

wedeservedit said:
Haha I had the S20+ exynos. What a disaster. Xperia 1ii is great
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Yeah - the Exynos is the reason i ditched Samsung upgrade programme this year and went Xperia.
What i've also noticed is how much nicer it is to have a much closer to google-native Android experience without Samsung duplicating every core app with their own and forcing you to use some of their services rather than what's delivered core.

Question Nightsight

Nightsight barely does anything, this camera sensor is absolute garbage lol, major major difference on my s23, these cameras on pixel devices are just gimics basically, and this exynos/T2 chipset is just so poor, ewhhh bye

So you have the Pixel 7 and the Galaxy s23?

kevinireland11 said:
Nightsight barely does anything, this camera sensor is absolute garbage lol, major major difference on my s23, these cameras on pixel devices are just gimics basically, and this exynos/T2 chipset is just so poor, ewhhh bye
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If you are not happy with the Pixel 7 just sell it or give it to your granny or lover and spare us the pointless posts.

kevinireland11 said:
Nightsight barely does anything, this camera sensor is absolute garbage lol, major major difference on my s23, these cameras on pixel devices are just gimics basically, and this exynos/T2 chipset is just so poor, ewhhh bye
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These are some night shots with and without Night Sight & zoom. It was cold and my hands were shaky but still Pixel manged to produce decent pictures. They look way better than any Samsung S flagship that I owned could ever deliver.