Odd hardware differences? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Guides, News, & Discussion

I am fully aware of the differences between Exynos and Snapdragon. That being said, I thought all the phones, software-wise, were the same.
I had a SM-N960F/DS. It was 8GB/512GB. I just bought an unlocked SM-N960U1. It's also 8GB/512GB. The full part number is SM-N960U1ZSFX. It's the Cloud Silver color variant.
I'm noticing different things between the phones. The most important one? On the new phone, dual speakers while in a call WORKS. It does not work at all on the SM-N960F. I thought I was hearing things, but it actually does work. One strange thing about it is it's semi-controlled by the proximity sensor. When you move up close to it, it shuts off the earpiece. Move away, it turns it back on.
At any rate, I switched from AT&T to Verizon in order to gain VOLTE without doing any hacking, and in the process gave up root. Luckily, with the Notes, the impact is very minimal since it's so feature rich.
Anyway, there were some questions about dual speaker during a call, so I'm here to let you know it works. Perhaps Samsung sneaked in fixes to the Cloud Silver variant? It's a thought.

ajm786 said:
I am fully aware of the differences between Exynos and Snapdragon. That being said, I thought all the phones, software-wise, were the same.
I had a SM-N960F/DS. It was 8GB/512GB. I just bought an unlocked SM-N960U1. It's also 8GB/512GB. The full part number is SM-N960U1ZSFX. It's the Cloud Silver color variant.
I'm noticing different things between the phones. The most important one? On the new phone, dual speakers while in a call WORKS. It does not work at all on the SM-N960F. I thought I was hearing things, but it actually does work. One strange thing about it is it's semi-controlled by the proximity sensor. When you move up close to it, it shuts off the earpiece. Move away, it turns it back on.
At any rate, I switched from AT&T to Verizon in order to gain VOLTE without doing any hacking, and in the process gave up root. Luckily, with the Notes, the impact is very minimal since it's so feature rich.
Anyway, there were some questions about dual speaker during a call, so I'm here to let you know it works. Perhaps Samsung sneaked in fixes to the Cloud Silver variant? It's a thought.
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Your last line of question and statement, are you asking about the F/DS model?
I got my N960U from day one and it has always had the stereo feature for speakerphone calls. It is pretty dope that the proximity sensor aids in the device detecting when to mute the earpiece. The first time I experienced this feature, I thought something was wrong with my device.:silly:

Jammol said:
Your last line of question and statement, are you asking about the F/DS model?
I got my N960U from day one and it has always had the stereo feature for speakerphone calls. It is pretty dope that the proximity sensor aids in the device detecting when to mute the earpiece. The first time I experienced this feature, I thought something was wrong with my device.:silly:
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Yeah, it works on the N960U, but does not on the F/DS.

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Yeah, it works on the N960U, but does not on the F/DS.
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Oh okay. That stinks though. A software workaround should make that happen on a rooted device.

I know. People have been trying since day one to get it to work, and not one has come up with a working solution. Believe me, I've flashed countless times until I just gave up. It was nice to have, but once you get it, you never want to go back. ?

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[Q] Check HDR microphone?

Simple question: Is there any way to check if our phone has the STM HDR mic? I know it's possible to check the bin of our SoC's so I was wondering if there's a system file that would allow us to determine the mic in our phones without taking apart the phone itself.
This is an important issue for me since I've just recently gotten the AT&T version of the HTC One in black. I previously had an early silver model that had fantastic audio and would like to see if this current revision has the mic as well.
AFAIK there isn't a way yet, or nobody's bothered to dig deep enough in the kernel source for it
Shouldn't be worrying about this just yet though, last I heard HTC had 2 full months worth of back-stock for those mics so it should still be going out there
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AFAIK there isn't a way yet, or nobody's bothered to dig deep enough in the kernel source for it
Shouldn't be worrying about this just yet though, last I heard HTC had 2 full months worth of back-stock for those mics so it should still be going out there
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Thanks! Not that i doubt you, but do you have the source of that?
Now that newer builds are rolling off the line, has anyone found a way to check what version of the mic HTC One's have? I'm seeing them advertised as "RARE - STM HDR MIC" on listings and am not sure if people are being BS'd.

Pre-Installed Apps on Xiaomi Mi5 inlcude Facebook?

What apps come pre-installed on Xiaomi Mi5? Is Facebook Pre-Installed on it? The less pre-installed apps the better
It has very few, and the ones that are installed can be uninstalled without any hassle. ?
This is not the case for the new Samsung S7 Edge and HTC X9
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This is not the case for the new Samsung S7 Edge and HTC X9
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Well this is MI 5 forum.
Those that did get their Mi5 able to tell us or post what came pre-installed?
desiregeek said:
Those that did get their Mi5 able to tell us or post what came pre-installed?
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Didnt really come pre installed with any thing other than a few chinese apps that I havent even looked at.
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Didnt really come pre installed with any thing other than a few chinese apps that I havent even looked at.
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How is your speaker volume? Loud? Reception for 4G and Wifi good?
desiregeek said:
How is your speaker volume? Loud? Reception for 4G and Wifi good?
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Speaker volume is loud. My reception for 4G is better than my s6 was (my area is band 3) and WiFi is perfect. What I have been very impressed with is call clarity. It's way way better than the s6, I am honestly blown away with the call clarity.
The one thing that has bothered me about Xiaomi devices is the build quality. Yes, it is an amazing phone, but, like my Mi4 wherever I turn off the screen it has a slight flash of color, guessing it has something to do with the way they make their screens. Messes with my OCD, is it a big deal, no. Also, if you press on the front glass slightly above the home button it touches the screen and warps the image. Maybe just my phone, who knows. The power button jiggles a little bit, not a big deal. Right now my biggest problem is I pop my SIM in and it doesn't pickup my network. ?
Mine picks.up my sim fine. Just tried pressing above home button and don't see.anything. To be honest I can't fault the build quality.
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The one thing that has bothered me about Xiaomi devices is the build quality. Yes, it is an amazing phone, but, like my Mi4 wherever I turn off the screen it has a slight flash of color, guessing it has something to do with the way they make their screens. Messes with my OCD, is it a big deal, no. Also, if you press on the front glass slightly above the home button it touches the screen and warps the image. Maybe just my phone, who knows. The power button jiggles a little bit, not a big deal. Right now my biggest problem is I pop my SIM in and it doesn't pickup my network. ?
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Sounds like one would have to make sure everything works fine before leaving a retail shop. Either exchange it or return it to make sure everything works the way it is supposed to be. The Chinese often focus on QC after they look at their returns. If they know something is wrong but returns are low the they will view it as acceptable by end users so if it is bad it should be returned. If not many people complain about same issue it will never be addressed.
Eh, I imported mine to the US I doubt there is any chance of any support other then on these forums x'D

Razer phone 2

I'm opening up this thread to gauge peoples opinions of whether they will be upgrading to the next iteration of our favourite mobile device. IMHO it looks good, with the addition of IP67 and wireless charging, along with the wonderful addition of the chroma lighting of the logo. Let's hope it lives up to it's predecessors high build quality. Put your thoughts down, let's discuss
I hope the vibration motor is better this time around and the bluetooth software has improved. These two things made me sell my razer. I would not connect in my car when every other phone has had no issues.
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If someone wants to buy my Razer phone for €700, I would buy the Razer Phone 2... But for now I'm still happy with this one.
Not missing the headphone jack. Bluetooth headset works great.
Not missing ip67. I never use my phone in the rain or in the shower.
Not missing brighter screen. Only use it outside sometimes (then I'm missing a brighter screen, but I can live with that).
Not missing the rgb logo. I'm using a case.
I might change if the Razer Phone 4 comes along...
I'll be upgrading if:
- Verizion is compatible
- The camera quality is improved
- The speakers are more durable; mine became distorted a couple months ago, pretty sure they are blown.
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FireGuy0723 said:
I'll be upgrading if:
- Verizion is compatible
- The camera quality is improved
- The speakers are more durable; mine became distorted a couple months ago, pretty sure they are blown.
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Razer phone 2 improved on all of those things. Verizon compatible, improved cameras, 50% higher brightness. Even has band 71 for T-Mobile. The speakers are water and dust resistant now (IP67). I wouldn't be surprised if you had a bunch of dust in your speakers. Happens all the time to my phones. I have to take 99% isopropyl alcohol and vacuum out the speakers. After that, my speakers work great. I work in a dusty environment and I know exactly what you're talking about.
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Gonz7711 said:
I hope the vibration motor is better this time around and the bluetooth software has improved. These two things made me sell my razer. I would not connect in my car when every other phone has had no issues.
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I forget who I watched on YouTube, but they said the vibration motor is greatly improved. Bluetooth is probably fixed too, because it's using the snapdragon 845.
How is the update schedule of the first razer phone? Looking into this phone...peaked my interest....
woundman said:
Razer phone 2 improved on all of those things. Verizon compatible, improved cameras, 50% higher brightness. Even has band 71 for T-Mobile. The speakers are water and dust resistant now (IP67). I wouldn't be surprised if you had a bunch of dust in your speakers. Happens all the time to my phones. I have to take 99% isopropyl alcohol and vacuum out the speakers. After that, my speakers work great. I work in a dusty environment and I know exactly what you're talking about.
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I forget who I watched on YouTube, but they said the vibration motor is greatly improved. Bluetooth is probably fixed too, because it's using the snapdragon 845.
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True, that is what is so far just stated by Razer and s couple of YouTubers, as far as the camera, speakers and screen goes.
We really won't be able to really know how much of an improvement the new phone is until we start getting some actual hands on reviews once the new phone ships out.
I've only seen a couple reviews, even though they where hands on, didn't see any camera samples or anything.
Verizion capability will really sell me on this phone. I had to switch to AT-T and the coverage in my town is horrible. I use straight talk so I don't have wifi calling either.
I almost sold my phone and went back to my old Droid Turbo 2, but honestly after using this 120hz screen, it's physically painful to look at a 60hz screen now!
Not even the $1200 iPhones have a screen this great!
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NO WAY!!
I have lost faith in razer as they are responsible for breaking bluetooth and not fixing it. It could have been a great device if they had given it the support it deserved instead of dropping it and moving on to the 2. Switched to the oneplus 6, just wish it had front firing speakers.
Keep these opinions coming, I for one will be upgrading but I still think we need to keep this discussion going
I have been looking at this phone too I like the design of it. I had a razer phone way back when. I have a bootloader unlocked rooted LG v30 US998 now. I know this is the wrong place to say this but lets hope we get some dev to work on unlocking the bootloader and root so we can have some good roms.
Looking to get it as well and finally retire my champ of a Nexus 6!
Just got my phone in the mail today. Only probably that I have had so far is that I can't receive texts. I can send texts on WiFi and off but can't receive. Will update tomorrow when I get back from Verizon.
I'm excited-should be the best phone out
How'd it go?
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EchoM3TH said:
Just got my phone in the mail today. Only probably that I have had so far is that I can't receive texts. I can send texts on WiFi and off but can't receive. Will update tomorrow when I get back from Verizon.
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Did you achieve full connectivity with Verizon?
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How'd it go?
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Well they swapped out the old SIM for new SIM. When they put the new Sim in the phone I was not able to make any phone calls or send out any Text due to it having to wait to register on the network so they put in the old SIM and I still was not able to send text but I was able to receive phone calls and make calls. When I got home I got in contact with razor and they were no help. Upon doing some research online through Twitter I found this post.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Razer/status/1054749294509649922
I found a Verizon fix on reddit. Just call, ask for Tier 2 support, say you want a CDMA-less profile. Give them your IMEI, ICCID for sim, and your number. Worked for me.
As far as the camera goes, there threads on here about it - it blows, but there's a gcam port already, and it's 'day and night', makes it totally usable. Not gonna be like pixels, but not a dealbreaker either
I just received my Razer Phone 2 and am enjoying it, but I can find no documentation whatsoever. Does anyone have a link to a manual? Still no firmware files either.
I am trying to use Chroma to show Outlook notifications, but there is so little information available, I am having problems. Any ideas?
No front led notification light. The only way to receive notifications is via the Chroma logo on the back.
charlie.s said:
I just received my Razer Phone 2 and am enjoying it, but I can find no documentation whatsoever. Does anyone have a link to a manual? Still no firmware files either.
I am trying to use Chroma to show Outlook notifications, but there is so little information available, I am having problems. Any ideas?
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Press the "Arrows" button on the corner of the logo box in the Chroma app. An option will appear to show notifications on the logo. There's no customisation it just picks the colour from the app icon and blinks. You need at least the lowest light setting to be on.

6 vs 6T

Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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I love the headphone jack, but I traded in my OnePlus One, so I'll just make do. I didn't even realize I was losing the LED notification, but I personally don't care too much because sometimes waiting for a pulse on the phone is the same as waking your phone anyways.
From what I've seen, the fingerprint is definitely slower, but on the case of it being iffy, I think that depends on the setup. I personally prefer a fingerprint sensor on the front.
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I love the headphone jack, but I traded in my OnePlus One, so I'll just make do. I didn't even realize I was losing the LED notification, but I personally don't care too much because sometimes waiting for a pulse on the phone is the same as waking your phone anyways.
From what I've seen, the fingerprint is definitely slower, but on the case of it being iffy, I think that depends on the setup. I personally prefer a fingerprint sensor on the front.
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Turning the phone on without picking the phone is great and one reason wanted the 6T. I even register the same finger twice but ehhh...
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Turning the phone on without picking the phone is great and one reason wanted the 6T. I even register the same finger twice but ehhh...
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I hated losing the ability to just press the fingerprint sensor as well. You can turn on tap-to-wake so you just gotta tap the screen a couple times to get in (tap to wake -> tap for fingerprint sensor), instead of picking it up and pressing a button first.
Nah, it's just a matter of personal preference.
jayjay1234 said:
Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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And if you live in the US and have Verizon the 6 is not an option.
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And if you live in the US and have Verizon the 6 is not an option.
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Your right. Non TMobile 6T can work with more carriers. Although I've been with ATT for a bit now always nice to know there's options.
jayjay1234 said:
Your right. Non TMobile 6T can work with more carriers. Although I've been with ATT for a bit now always nice to know there's options.
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The T-Mobile can work with just as many as the unlocked once the sim is unlocked. Same hardware, same bands, etc.
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The T-Mobile can work with just as many as the unlocked once the sim is unlocked. Same hardware, same bands, etc.
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Nice! Thanks for the clarification.
jayjay1234 said:
Anyone here thought about returning your 6T for a 6? I've been really considering this because I feel I'm losing more hardware with the 6T.
1. Iffy fingerprint sensor over a perfect one
2. No more led notification.
3. No more headphone jack
To me the only real gain is the battery. The whole notch/screen thing is not a big deal.
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1. I hated having fingerprint sensor on the back always looking/searching when I need to log in to diverse apps. Only time I miss it is when I pull my phone out of pocket and used to touch back sensor to turn the phone on. But I double tap it now.
2. Yes, no led notifications was disappointing but most other phones are losing it. However, app called pixel pulse solved the problem, and it's actually now better then notification LED.
3. I rarely used headphone jack. Why would you want to have cord dangling around? Isn't it annoying? I stopped using corded headphones long time ago and have Bluetooth earbuds everywhere if needed.
4. Smaller notch allows for more notifications.
5. Better sounding speaker.
6. Base option comes with128GB space.
7. Larger capacity battery.
I certainly dislike where phone industry is going. Removing essentials like notification LED, headphone jack, larger narrower screens? But it's what nearly everyone is making these days. It would be nice if OnePlus does something like Google and has 2 versions, one smaller 5.5 inch 16:9 screen, and this one 6.4+with same specifications (except battery).

I hate to but I'm giving up on this phone

The M20P is a great phone in many ways but I'm throwing in the towel. At this point I really wish I had held onto my P20P.
I can't trust this phone as a daily driver because of intermittent issues where phone calls go straight into voicemail without the phone ever ringing. It's not like I'm missing the calls because multiple people have reported that when they called it went straight to voicemail with no ringing.
There was some theorizing in a separate thread that the issue might be due to a compatibility issue with the T-Mobile network here in the United States (where the M20P isn't officially sold or supported) but I have found owners in other countries complaining about the same problem .
I've tried numerous fixes from experimenting with the APN and network settings, turning off raise to wake and voice answering settings, using performance mode, using Shortcut Maker to disable the hidden Wi-Fi calls menu, turning off power optomization for all apps, giving call related apps unlimited data access, disabling Power Genie with ADB--and every time it seems like the problem might be fixed it eventually happens again.
I previously owned both the M10P and P20P and never ran across the issue on either phone. I'm not sure if this is happening because of MIUI 9 or the way Huawei is implementing Android Pie or if it is only specific to this model but as much as I like the M20P I can't use it as my daily driver if I can't trust it to ring every time I receive a call.
I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, One Plus or Google Pixels so I'm looking at probably getting a Xiaomi MI 9 and relegating this to the back up phone status currently occupied by my Mix 2S.
Maybe the problem will get fixed in the 9.1 update but I can't keep missing calls.
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The M20P is a great phone in many ways but I'm throwing in the towel. At this point I really wish I had held onto my P20P.
I can't trust this phone as a daily driver because of intermittent issues where phone calls go straight into voicemail without the phone ever ringing. It's not like I'm missing the calls because multiple people have reported that when they called it went straight to voicemail with no ringing.
There was some theorizing in a separate thread that the issue might be due to a compatibility issue with the T-Mobile network here in the United States (where the M20P isn't officially sold or supported) but I have found owners in other countries complaining about the same problem .
I've tried numerous fixes from experimenting with the APN and network settings, turning off raise to wake and voice answering settings, using performance mode, using Shortcut Maker to disable the hidden Wi-Fi calls menu, turning off power optomization for all apps, giving call related apps unlimited data access, disabling Power Genie with ADB--and every time it seems like the problem might be fixed it eventually happens again.
I previously owned both the M10P and P20P and never ran across the issue on either phone. I'm not sure if this is happening because of MIUI 9 or the way Huawei is implementing Android Pie or if it is only specific to this model but as much as I like the M20P I can't use it as my daily driver if I can't trust it to ring every time I receive a call.
I'm not a fan of Samsung phones, One Plus or Google Pixels so I'm looking at probably getting a Xiaomi MI 9 and relegating this to the back up phone status currently occupied by my Mix 2S.
Maybe the problem will get fixed in the 9.1 update but I can't keep missing calls.
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I do also Miss calls. And I can't get Google voice to work, and use it for voicemail. So sometimes I don't even get notification of new voicemail too. Same here, T-Mobile US. I'm thinking of trading up, but really waiting for the upcoming 5g phones.
For me, it's not a deal breaker. But an inconvenience. Might trade my son-in-law for his 6t.
I hate to do it. Because everything about the performance is great. I love the camera...... Ugh.
Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Afaik, this has never happened to me or anyone I know with the M20P. But we also weren't affected by the infamous iPhone Death Grip here in Sweden, probably because our mobile networks are decently stable.
No issues here on Rogers in Canada. Sorry to hear that.
That's also a deal breaker for me. If it can't make and receive phone calls, she's gotta go.
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No issues here on Rogers in Canada. Sorry to hear that.
That's also a deal breaker for me. If it can't make and receive phone calls, she's gotta go.
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Must be related to the network not the phone...either the band it's on in your area, or the communication with the tower.
While most of us in countries where the phone is sold have problems with notifications (EMUI 9.1....I hope that will solve them...) I NEVER missed a call. And my provider (Videotron) has agreements with 3 more for coverage, so I jump a lot between bands and carriers when I travel.
Considering you have no recourse in US, I would just give up and get something more mainstream. 6T might be good idea.
I can make phone calls and 95% of the time I receive them fine. But the other 5% is driving me crazy ?.
The other day I had to call Amazon customer service The website said the call was connected but my phone never rang. I canceled the call and clicked for them to call me back and the same thing happened twice more-the Amazon website said the call was currently connected but my phone never rang, there's nothing in the call history and no voicemail notification.
I reboot my phone and there's suddenly 3 missed calls and a voice mail notification and when I click for Amazon to call me again the phone rings immediately.
I hadn't missed a call for weeks before that.
Maybe I shouldn't have screwed around with manually flashing updates. It was never a problem with the M10P or P20P but since the updates for this phone aren't locked to the specific hardware version it's not the same as before and the phone always shows up as uncertified which never happened on the other phones.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Afaik, this has never happened to me or anyone I know with the M20P. But we also weren't affected by the infamous iPhone Death Grip here in Sweden, probably because our mobile networks are decently stable.
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You should try a factory reset as a last resort first
what firmware version are you on? M2p here in the states and have had zero problems here
I was on one of the versions with the April security patch. I did a factory reset and e-recovery to the latest approved version for my model which is 210 with the March security patch but it didn't make any difference. I haven't had any calls yet to miss but I couldn't get text messages to set up my Amazon and Chase apps until after rebooting the phone which is a different symptom of the same issue. I was sending and receiving texts earlier this morning with no issues. I had to reboot about 4 hours later.
I have the LYA-L09 version from the UK. I don't think It should make a difference but maybe the international or Canadian versions would work better with T-Mobile in the US. Band support isn't an issue but Huawei did something new with this phone where the custom partition (which contains carrier and region specific software) is separate from the rest of the firmware which is why the same firmware versions can be manually flashed across all non-Chinese models.
The new custom partition might be causing issues with missed calls and notifications that some people like me are experiencing.
On earlier Huawei phones removing specific apps from battery optimization was enough to ensure that notifications from those apps were delivered quickly but a really common complaint with many M20P owners is that doing that no longer works. Some people don't get any notifications from certain apps unless the display is on and others need to reboot their phones when they suspect they have missed notifications--especially from SMS.
I didn't come across this missing calls issue but there is a bunch of other annoyances that putting me off this phone. To start with, it disappointed me straight away from day one due to simple, unexpected reason - inability to unlocked it at first-second-third attempt with in-screen fingerprint sensor. It was like a sobering slap to the face. Believe me or not but this fancy feature was one of the buying point. Seriously, that fingerprint reader seems works only at the time of first set up . Next day during the phone normal use with clean screen with no screen protector the most common scenario - unlocked with face recognition after 4 failed fingerprint attempt. Seriously, the first "date" with this beautiful phone was ruined straight away!! Further - more "minor" issues like tons of accidental screenshots in my gallery due to improper buttons position, inferior sound from the speakers (coming from Pixel 3) - acceptable at max volume only for me, useless AOD, inability to wake up the phone with double tap, no notifications issue (due to too long (!) operator name as I figured out later), no Google Feed out-of-the-box for my region, poor tactile engine (still can't feel that it's even here compared to iPhones or Pixel 3), camera inconsistency (too many out of focus, blurry shots, bad selfies, poor low light video).... Basically the only things forced to keep me this phone are great battery life, versatile camera, cool unique back design. I understand that there is no perfect phone for sure BUT there are far too many negative bullet points for this one considering the price I paid for it. Frankly, it is certainly not a over $1000 phone at all. If I was aware of all above-mentioned issues, I would't pay more than $500 for it. Sure I have got some quite stunning shots from it BUT everything else must be up for the price as well! So I gave up and put it on sale as well. Sorry Huawei, try harder next time.
Boo hoo.
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I didn't come across this missing calls issue but there is a bunch of other annoyances that putting me off this phone. To start with, it disappointed me straight away from day one due to simple, unexpected reason - inability to unlocked it at first-second-third attempt with in-screen fingerprint sensor. It was like a sobering slap to the face. Believe me or not but this fancy feature was one of the buying point. Seriously, that fingerprint reader seems works only at the time of first set up . Next day during the phone normal use with clean screen with no screen protector the most common scenario - unlocked with face recognition after 4 failed fingerprint attempt. Seriously, the first "date" with this beautiful phone was ruined straight away!! Further - more "minor" issues like tons of accidental screenshots in my gallery due to improper buttons position, inferior sound from the speakers (coming from Pixel 3) - acceptable at max volume only for me, useless AOD, inability to wake up the phone with double tap, no notifications issue (due to too long (!) operator name as I figured out later), no Google Feed out-of-the-box for my region, poor tactile engine (still can't feel that it's even here compared to iPhones or Pixel 3), camera inconsistency (too many out of focus, blurry shots, bad selfies, poor low light video).... Basically the only things forced to keep me this phone are great battery life, versatile camera, cool unique back design. I understand that there is no perfect phone for sure BUT there are far too many negative bullet points for this one considering the price I paid for it. Frankly, it is certainly not a over $1000 phone at all. If I was aware of all above-mentioned issues, I would't pay more than $500 for it. Sure I have got some quite stunning shots from it BUT everything else must be up for the price as well! So I gave up and put it on sale as well. Sorry Huawei, try harder next time.
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I've never had any of those problems although the AOD display does seem to bug some people who are used to what Samsung or Apple does with it.
I think the Pixels are among the worst phones on the market. They easily list for twice what they are worth, have worst build quality than a $200 Xiaomi phone, run too hot, suffer serious hardware failure within 2 years in staggering numbers and every generation of Pixel devices to date has had significant hardware and software problems that the tech press ignores.
I really like this phone a lot. The build quality is fantastic. It takes great pictures and everything runs smooth and fast without the phone ever running hot (unlike Google phones which have been running in performance mode by default since the Nexus 5X). Battery life is great. My LG display (you know--the one that was supposedly defective?) is gorgeous.
But I can't deal with the missed calls anymore. I'm sure it could be fixed with a software update but after 6 months I'm not confident that a fix is ever going to come.
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I've never had any of those problems although the AOD display does seem to bug some people who are used to what Samsung or Apple does with it.
I think the Pixels are among the worst phones on the market. They easily list for twice what they are worth, have worst build quality than a $200 Xiaomi phone, run too hot, suffer serious hardware failure within 2 years in staggering numbers and every generation of Pixel devices to date has had significant hardware and software problems that the tech press ignores.
I really like this phone a lot. The build quality is fantastic. It takes great pictures and everything runs smooth and fast without the phone ever running hot (unlike Google phones which have been running in performance mode by default since the Nexus 5X). Battery life is great. My LG display (you know--the one that was supposedly defective?) is gorgeous.
But I can't deal with the missed calls anymore. I'm sure it could be fixed with a software update but after 6 months I'm not confident that a fix is ever going to come.
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
So.... I too have abandoned the phone. I love it. It was a beast with battery and camera and speed. But.... missing calls has cost me a vacation that my timeshare had called and I didn't get the trade for the time. And timeshares can be finnickey to get a trade for the area/time you want.
Anyway. I ended up trading to my son-in-law for the oneplus 6t since its sold by Tmobile and should have any missed calls. He got a hell of a phone for the trade. Oh well.....
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
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I have owned Nexus and Pixel phones. I definitely know what I am talking about. The Nexus devices had much more premium build quality than the Pixel line and the phones were much cheaper.
Just go to the Official Google Pixel Support site and read the posts from the many owners experiencing serious issues with their phones. That's pretty much the only place people can find accurate information about Pixel phones because the tech press holds Google to a much lower standard than it does Samsung, Apple, Huawei, or Xiaomi. The only company that gets a similar treatment to Google is One Plus. The official One Plus support site has so many reports of issues everyday that after a couple hours all of the posts that had been visible are completely buried under the tidal wave of new posts.
The difference is that the majority of issues One Plus owners report are software related because the coding on One Plus phones is inept and the majority of reported Pixel problems are hardware related.
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So.... I too have abandoned the phone. I love it. It was a beast with battery and camera and speed. But.... missing calls has cost me a vacation that my timeshare had called and I didn't get the trade for the time. And timeshares can be finnickey to get a trade for the area/time you want.
Anyway. I ended up trading to my son-in-law for the oneplus 6t since its sold by Tmobile and should have any missed calls. He got a hell of a phone for the trade. Oh well.....
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I am not a fan of One Plus but I'm sure you won't have an issue with missed calls. If you have a T-Mobile One Plus instead of an unlocked one you get far less frequent updates because T-Mobile is trying not to release Oxygen updates that introduce new bugs. I don't think T-Mobile knew what they were getting into before they decided to carry those phones.
I got my MI 9. It's not as nice as the M20P obviously but it's a good value which is what Xiaomi is known for. I'm also getting all my calls, texts and notifications with zero problems and VoLTE works.
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Hi there. I believe you never owned the Pixel 3 or 3 XL! Because you certainly don't know what are you talking about. The only thing those phones are missing is versatile camera system. That's it. Otherwise Pixel 3s are the best smartphones around. I had Pixel 3 XL for 4 month, still own a Pixel 3 as a business / backup phone. No single hardware or software issue with them whatsoever. Build quality is top tier. No heating issues with my small Pixel 3 for sure whereas my buggy Mate 20 Pro becomes hot as hell after just half an hour driving with GPS app running. Pixel 3 stays cool at the same conditions! You seriously need to get Pixel 3 first and start talking afterwards!
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Looks to me you're the only one who doesn't know what he's talking about...plus you might wanna try to be more considerate when you post here. No need for personal baseless attacks.
Pixel 3 is an outdated phone with an excellent camera app and timely updates. That's ALL. Had one, ditched it for the Mate 20 pro (in before the personal attack that "you don't know what you're talking about").
I can also ask you how did you get your Mate 20 pro to become "hot as hell after just a half an hour driving with GPS app running". I took 4-5 hour trips with GPS on, the only slight warm area was the wireless charging one, as the phone sat in a holder with wireless charging.
Not sure what point you are trying to prove (if any) but you haven't convinced anyone.
Maybe this will:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/04/29/doesnt-sound-like-google-sold-very-many-pixel-3-phones/
have you tried using a fresh new sim card?

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