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Just curious. What's your thoughts? Will either HTC or Qualcom fix the video driver with the Kaiser? As the end of March approaches with no fix from HTC, it's starting to look grim......
I voted yes, but it isn't that clear cut...
HTC/Qualcom will release a driver for another device which will be ported to the kaiser.
ETA? late fall/early 2009.
so technically HTC/Qualcom is going to fix it, but indirectly...which can probably considered not fixing it...
anyways, i ramble, and the topic is redundant, therefore i bid it farewell before an admin closes it.
yeah I think you need to change the title to "will the driver issue be fixed by HTC"
The fix is going to come, but only when the good people @xda extract it from some device that'll be realeased in the forseeable future.
What do you think is the touchscreen bug going to be fixed with it?
I would hope they do but one can only dream... By then I will be using the X1. Wait, made by HTC also... Forget it.....
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I would hope they do but one can only dream... By then I will be using the X1. Wait, made by HTC also... Forget it.....
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I hear you. I got excited about the X1 as well...until I saw that it's made by HTC. Although won't it be Sony who controls what software is on it? Still though, I won't hold my breath.....
It will, but probably a lot later than we expect. We'll probably have to wait for someone to get on it, or for a release of a similar device with drivers, so we can rip them out of it.
I'd say a year or so..
is it up to us?
Just wondering, is it up to our opinions or wishful thinking, if the driver issue will be fixed?
Cheers...
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I voted yes, but it isn't that clear cut...
HTC/Qualcom will release a driver for another device which will be ported to the kaiser.
ETA? late fall/early 2009.
so technically HTC/Qualcom is going to fix it, but indirectly...which can probably considered not fixing it...
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Exactly
No fix for our device. but maybe something which will port over, sometime after we've all upgraded to something else which wont work properly....
I love technology!
neither will fix it because they already have your money - they didnt just drop the ball, they put it down carefully and walked off.
my magic 8 ball says a definate maybe.
Who knows? They might...they might. Eitherway, everyone here is going to get another, better phone im 6 months.
I think once that SE X1 phone is released using the qualcomm chip, its bound to be fixed, idk how they think they can manage to get a smoothe UI and playback without the drivers. they will be included in some future 7xxx device.
I voted "Not a chance" because there was no option for "I don't care."
I put not a chance. Given the number of tweakers here....this group will, for the most part, never be satisfied with the response from HTC.
The driver will come about 2 weeks after everyone has upgraded the next latest and greatest thing, just in time for it to not be needed....................
HTC already released the fix. But Steve Jobs began ddosing their website and forced them to take it offline.
I voted no.
I wish my tilt's camera functioned like the N95 lol...wait then it would be the perfect phone...
I believe that even if HTC doesn't resolve it, someone else will. Having said that, nothing I've used my Tilt for has been impacted by this issue, so I probably wouldn't notice the difference that a new driver would make.
Not a chance.
Logically why would they? The promised a "fix" and it achieved 100% of its goals in that everyone shutup and went away to wait.
btw: Notice the choice of the "end of March". Far enough to waste time - not too far to make people crack on with the lawsuit.
It doesn't exist and never will. Straight out of the microsoft school of vapourware that one.
March will go and maybe april. Someone MIGHT say something. They will apologise, blame some "technical problem" and say the fix will be "soon". Another few months will go by and then everyone will have new phones and voila the problem goes away.
Time is NOT on our side. These products have a VERY finite shelf-life and HTC knows this. I'm sure it is one of the reasons they rushed it out sans-drivers in the first place. We are already talking about a device that is 6 months old.
First adopters are half-way through a 12 month contract!
So: As you may guess I voted for not a chance. And now apathy has got me and I would say I don't care. Never buying HTC again though!
There are existing threads on this subject. USE THEM.
This thread is in any case adding nothing to our understanding, as it's based on guess work - sadly.
We all want a conclusion on this issue but starting another thread is not helping us, but is just another opportunity to fight amongst ourselves.
Mike
Hello Friends!
I'm admin of polish fan site about Samsung Wave, which is in some way banned here in xda, because I could not find any topic about it
Anyway, we are aware of Samsung that starting to behave like other big company's in terms of 'user feedback'. A lot of customers that bought Wave are complaying about several, not repaired until today issues/bugs, these are :
1. RAM issues - It has got 512MB, but it goes like it would have 128-256MB.
user who tooks his device from the box sometimes can't even open a website without 'error, no memory, close some apps to free more' - but user than sees, that there is nothing else than webbrowser opened!
2. Lack of office-files editing options avalible in the phone. This is what I use a lot. On my forum there are two main voices - one half says "if you want it, pay for it", second half thinks like me - device for this cash, should have it built-in.
3. Treating users, and their opinions by Samsung - We stated our demands 3-4 moths ago. Samsung never reveals changelogs in his fw - moreover, when we claerly said 'answer our questions with something more than <<we will talk this internaly>> <<we will think about that>> etc... What they did ? Yes, they answered us just same way as always, God!....
There should be some great apps in SamsungApps, where are they ? Why can't we get more than 1 app running at the time ? Imagine using SPB Mobile Shell, and nothing more, because this is how phone behave. It just restarts the secondly and more apps to their "first splash screen". So Yes, you can run multiply instances of programs, but in REAL time (and thats what multitasking means) you can run just ONE APP....
Other words : Samsung Wave with his issues is still being used by thousends of people. Me and my friends we got many so-going issues with out Waves and I personally cannot belive, that this is not a problem of every single user.
That stated I must say, that I liked Wave v.much, by I was pushed by Samsung to sell it. RAM/Multitasking is worse than in old NokiaN95-2.
So if you agree with us, or got 30 seconds to spent, please help us all and sign/like this.
This is petition link :
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Your sincerly
Bart
Samsung, in my opinion anyways, are well known for pushing some bad firmware to devices, and having no transparency about issues and what is going on to resolve them. IN the 4/5months that I had an Omnia HD I8910HD I had many issues, all were meant to be fixed by a magical firmware upgrade that was meant to be released about 4 days after I got the phone. They never released it, it got pushed back and back, and I still do not know if they have released it. Its a shame, as I know their TV support is well equipped.
Basically, I feel this will fall onto death ears, and samsung will just continue repeating themselves.
worst/lamest/corniest name ever for a software meant to be bought by millions
It's not badass
Not to offend you [OP]. But as an admin do you allow the same exact thread to be posted twice? For shame.
good day.
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Not to offend you [OP]. But as an admin do you allow the same exact thread to be posted twice? For shame.
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Haha
And LoL @JimJam
Guyz... Just came across this blog where MS is giving some estimated time frame that you can expect the NoDo or Copy/Paste update to your specific device.
This link is specific to the US devices: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-schedule-usa.aspx
HD7 Device shows up as "Scheduling". They also claim the status would be updated weekly. So go check it out.
This is the link to the Blog: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_.../2011/03/23/copy-and-paste-update-status.aspx
I've been holding it in and am a huge supporter. This isn't going to be constructive at all but, **** MSFT AND THE CARRIERS!! It's MSFT fault either way. If the carriers are delaying release of the updates, then they should have enough nuts to say something and get it done. Hell, show them the predicted results of what happens to your market share when they piddle around and piss off customers. I've been one since I bought my Motorola MPX 220 and Ipaq Pocket PC. I've done nothing but brag about WM since it's inception. Posted facts about WM on my Facebook page to shut up people about Apple and them being the first smartphone. And now I'm just plain fed the **** UP!! Sorry to rant, but I could actually keep going. NO custom ringtones, NO Mass Storage, NO multitasking for an alarm clock that doesn't suck, NO threaded email or single email inbox, NO....you fill in the blank now. And I was excusing all these things due to my faith that MSFT will get with the program pretty quickly. Looks like it's time to fix my HD2's screen or buy a freaking Android phone until MSFT catches up in 2015!
I agree. I am so pissed at the way MS is trying to push this update. If MS can define hardware limitations, they could very well define the update rules to the carriers. I think MS should grow a pair and tell the manufacturers/carriers to push the update all at once its ready.
This is so frustrating. No doubt Apple is the master of delivering the updates. In fact, Apple does not even have to announce a software update, every one knows they can expect one every year in March/April.
I thought MS would have learnt something good when they launched WP7.
"Push updates in Batches" my Ass.
It's MSFT fault either way
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You sure about that or are you just itching to point an unnecessary finger at MS??
Hell, show them the predicted results of what happens to your market share when they piddle around and piss off customers. I've been one since I bought my Motorola MPX 220 and Ipaq Pocket PC. I've done nothing but brag about WM since it's inception.
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wow... all that and THIS is what gets to you. You waded through all the other stuff, You go back to about 2003 with MS you finally get a FAR SUPERIOR device and this minor wait is doing it??
Come the hell on.
NO custom ringtones, NO Mass Storage, NO multitasking for an alarm clock that doesn't suck, NO threaded email or single email inbox, NO....you fill in the blank now.
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I think the rest of us are going to need a life raft just to avoid drowning in your silly-ass tears.
Ya know, I think it's big of MS ot post the fact that the carriers are the ones holding **** up. Who else does that?
If MS can define hardware limitations, they could very well define the update rules to the carriers. I think MS should grow a pair and tell the manufacturers/carriers to push the update all at once its ready.
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Hold on there pard'ner. You are talking about two VERY different entities. MS, and manufcturers are ALL at the mercy of carriers.
No doubt Apple is the master of delivering the updates. In fact, Apple does not even have to announce a software update, every one knows they can expect one every year in March/April.
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So... one update a year, then a new phone later that year (or so) and they are "masters" at this?? The ****... seriously?!?
I have a solution for everyone one Apple or Android. But don't forget your hankys 'cuz you will have PLENTY to ***** about there too.
Kthxbye!
Hi Everyone,
Not sure if this has already been posted but here is a schedule for people OUTSIDE the U.S. as well...
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...pdate-status-carriers-countries-and-devices/#
Not 100% sure on the acuracy of it but I hope it helps...
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You sure about that or are you just itching to point an unnecessary finger at MS??
wow... all that and THIS is what gets to you. You waded through all the other stuff, You go back to about 2003 with MS you finally get a FAR SUPERIOR device and this minor wait is doing it??
Come the hell on.
I think the rest of us are going to need a life raft just to avoid drowning in your silly-ass tears.
Ya know, I think it's big of MS ot post the fact that the carriers are the ones holding **** up. Who else does that?
Hold on there pard'ner. You are talking about two VERY different entities. MS, and manufcturers are ALL at the mercy of carriers.
So... one update a year, then a new phone later that year (or so) and they are "masters" at this?? The ****... seriously?!?
I have a solution for everyone one Apple or Android. But don't forget your hankys 'cuz you will have PLENTY to ***** about there too.
Kthxbye!
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I have HD2 running android and have less to complain about then with WP7.
I also have HD7 with half an OS on it. It reminds me it is half an OS as each time I want to do something there is no option for it or it says no.
WP7 has potential but the way it is going that's where it is going to stay till XDA developers hack it.
Name smartphone was invented for a reason, it was to be used with phones that were "smarter" then average mobile. Had plenty of functions where everyone could find what they need. Current range of WP7 phones, Apple phones are a retarded version of smartphone but that only makes it an average phone, just huge!!!
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So... one update a year, then a new phone later that year (or so) and they are "masters" at this?? The ****... seriously?!?
I have a solution for everyone one Apple or Android. But don't forget your hankys 'cuz you will have PLENTY to ***** about there too.
Kthxbye!
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You still haven't made your point.
An update every year to all its zillion+ customer base at once with our any issues irrespective of the carrier, across countries and continents. If they are not masters of this, you let me know the word I can use or you think appropriate.
A tiny-ass copy/paste update (which I'm not even crazy about) is taking them forever to deliver to it's customers. The reason I'm more interested in the update is for the Bluetooth fix and the email pictures fix, which when sent form an iPhone is not received.
An Apple or Android for every one of us? I cannot talk for others, but I've been there done that. Not apple of course (except for the 1st gen phone which I was using it on T-Mobile after unlocking it myself). I currently own a N1, HD2, HD7 (my primary device) and Galaxy S (my wife).
I'm not really sure about your devices experience, but you have lot a lot to say with out any point.
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I have HD2 running android and have less to complain about then with WP7.
I also have HD7 with half an OS on it. It reminds me it is half an OS as each time I want to do something there is no option for it or it says no.
WP7 has potential but the way it is going that's where it is going to stay till XDA developers hack it.
Name smartphone was invented for a reason, it was to be used with phones that were "smarter" then average mobile. Had plenty of functions where everyone could find what they need. Current range of WP7 phones, Apple phones are a retarded version of smartphone but that only makes it an average phone, just huge!!!
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One question - How many times in a week do your reboot your phone or flash a ROM. I'm not asking if you are flashing ROM because there is a new one out there, I'm asking about the times you flash because of the hope the next one would be more usable and stable.
I was done looking for a perfect ROM and fed-up with ROMs that require a reboot every 12 or 24 hrs for them to work with out hanging up. I found the level of stability, usability, functionality and ease with WP7 OS. Thats why I switched. Of course the Apps and Games are a HUGE bonus for me.
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I agree. I am so pissed at the way MS is trying to push this update. If MS can define hardware limitations, they could very well define the update rules to the carriers. I think MS should grow a pair and tell the manufacturers/carriers to push the update all at once its ready.
This is so frustrating. No doubt Apple is the master of delivering the updates. In fact, Apple does not even have to announce a software update, every one knows they can expect one every year in March/April.
I thought MS would have learnt something good when they launched WP7.
"Push updates in Batches" my Ass.
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If you actually stopped to think about what you just said, apple can do that because first of all they make their OWN devices (which are extremely overpriced/battery cant be replaced easily if at all) so yeah they can just send out an update, it doesnt have to be test on all of these different manufactured devices. So.........Apple still sucks..........WINDOWS PHONE ALL THE WAY!!!
You guys have to give microsoft a break. It is illogical and unfair to compare a first year company in the new smartphone age to others (apple and android) which have been around for years. Apple and android had really shaky starts too, maybe even worse. Its just an update guys, give microsoft a break on their new and amazing product! NICE JOB MS, keep the magic coming.
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I agree here 100%. I came from WM 6.1 Pro to Android and dont get me wrong... I love my Droid but man did I do alot of *****ing waiting for my FroYo update and for what really? Flash was the biggest upgrade from Eclair and Apps2SD... REALLY??? Apps2SD??? My Omnia i910 could do that right out of the box but I had to wait for an update to do it on my Galaxy S I thought to myself...
This is a similar scenario here and guess what??? *****ing or NO *****ing we still have to wait NO MATTER WHAT!!!
I think MS has done a fantastic job on this OS and although it is lacking some pretty basic functionality as of now, IT WILL COME just like having to wait for Apps2 SD on Android which to me coming from WM 6.1 Pro I thought was pretty basic.
Hold your horses people and let MS do its thing and when this OS begins to mature a bit I have no doubt that it will be an absolute BEAST!!!
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If you actually stopped to think about what you just said, apple can do that because first of all they make their OWN devices (which are extremely overpriced/battery cant be replaced easily if at all) so yeah they can just send out an update, it doesnt have to be test on all of these different manufactured devices. So.........Apple still sucks..........WINDOWS PHONE ALL THE WAY!!!
You guys have to give microsoft a break. It is illogical and unfair to compare a first year company in the new smartphone age to others (apple and android) which have been around for years. Apple and android had really shaky starts too, maybe even worse. Its just an update guys, give microsoft a break on their new and amazing product! NICE JOB MS, keep the magic coming.
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If not for the *****ing, we wouldn't even have the schedule they posted in their Blog. If they had took care of informing their customers in a timely manner and with accurate info, no one would've been *****ing. Instead, they were promoting their coming updates and fixes giving vague timings and everyone are frustrated not knowing what and when to expect.
The reason I got this device is because I love the OS. But that does not get away from the fact that they screwed up the update process.
the question now is, how often will ms be updating the website. we need to know cause the updates in the website (for hd7's) says that they are to be scheduled and it says it will take 10 days or less. when will the counting of days start? from the time the website was opened? if this is the case were now down to 7 days of wait time. i think ms needs to start re-labeling the updates. NoDo should be april update not march update
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You sure about that or are you just itching to point an unnecessary finger at MS??
wow... all that and THIS is what gets to you. You waded through all the other stuff, You go back to about 2003 with MS you finally get a FAR SUPERIOR device and this minor wait is doing it??
Come the hell on.
I think the rest of us are going to need a life raft just to avoid drowning in your silly-ass tears.
Ya know, I think it's big of MS ot post the fact that the carriers are the ones holding **** up. Who else does that?
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The finger pointing isn't unnecessary. Either they care about making customer's happy (who buy the product) or they can be more concerned about the carriers (which in my case Tmobile) haven't shown that much support for the OS in the first place. And you're right, I waded through all the other stuff because winmo really wasn't that bad if you understood what you were getting. For 2003, viewing movies, listening to mp3's and using Office features on a phone were so cutting edge, that you were willing to deal with the occasional bug, lock up or sometimes slowness of the OS. The only thing they did with WP7 was fix the ugliness,smoothness, and overall stability of the OS. Which is exactly what needed to happen. I applaud them for the fresh start. But, seriously, we're in 2011 now (8 yrs later) and you can't regress so far backwards, and then waste loads of time to re-implement things your previous (and every other OS) does now. I mean, what second or newer iteration of a product have you seen that loses a lot of it's most valuable marketing aspects? And as for my tear being silly. Your disillusioned in your thoughts that you don't need such things as I mentioned. If there was no need for them, then mobile OS's wouldn't have them and no one would care.
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The finger pointing isn't unnecessary. Either they care about making customer's happy (who buy the product) or they can be more concerned about the carriers (which in my case Tmobile) haven't shown that much support for the OS in the first place. And you're right, I waded through all the other stuff because winmo really wasn't that bad if you understood what you were getting. For 2003, viewing movies, listening to mp3's and using Office features on a phone were so cutting edge, that you were willing to deal with the occasional bug, lock up or sometimes slowness of the OS. The only thing they did with WP7 was fix the ugliness,smoothness, and overall stability of the OS. Which is exactly what needed to happen. I applaud them for the fresh start. But, seriously, we're in 2011 now (8 yrs later) and you can't regress so far backwards, and then waste loads of time to re-implement things your previous (and every other OS) does now. I mean, what second or newer iteration of a product have you seen that loses a lot of it's most valuable marketing aspects? And as for my tear being silly. Your disillusioned in your thoughts that you don't need such things as I mentioned. If there was no need for them, then mobile OS's wouldn't have them and no one would care.
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What do you mean...? They are doing something they NEVER did. They are not only supporting this OS, but addressing it in ways they never have before. I do agree that some things should not have been left out to begin with, IMO it is unacceptable to leave out something as minor as C&P. But they aren't the only ones who did this, and whoever compared them to apple is missing that this minor update is being given away they aren't forcing you to by another device to get it. You said it yourself, MS is not new to this game... hell in most ways they started the smartphone game the way it exists today.
So take a look at the ways Android (one of the OS's everyone claims is doing it right) went about rolling out Froyo. Or look at the fact that Apple is and has been pushing shiney, brand new feature to the masses that were available on my Kaiser in 2007 (front facing camera) or how they are masters at turd polishing.
With that in mind how are they really messing up?
You are seeing MS do things with it that we saw no signs of in 2003 but you feel they are making that big of a mistake?? I urge you to look past the minor crap and look at the overall picture.
There is no way you can logically look at this OS as a whole and see any real regressions. "Imperfections", hell yes. But regressions?? No way. The worst part about this update is that it has been beat to **** so bad that it can only catch negativity at this point. It has been splashed from site to site, and talked about at length... the expectations and anticipations are so high that people can only be let down. Back the hell away from the keyboard and chill out about something so small people.
Please read these links.
http://wmpoweruser.com/editorial-the-continuing-diminishing-return-from-updates/
http://wpcentral.com/fanboy-s-defense-microsoft
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What do you mean...? They are doing something they NEVER did. They are not only supporting this OS, but addressing it in ways they never have before. ... and whoever compared them to apple is missing that this minor update is being given away they aren't forcing you to by another device to get it. ... There is no way you can logically look at this OS as a whole and see any real regressions. "Imperfections", hell yes. But regressions?? No way. The worst part about this update is that it has been beat to **** so bad that it can only catch negativity at this point. It has been splashed from site to site, and talked about at length... the expectations and anticipations are so high that people can only be let down. Back the hell away from the keyboard and chill out about something so small people.
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They did support windows mobile, there was plenty of new builds just when WP7 project started it wend down. Yes they address update process in a new way but it is a flaud way. What testing carriers need to do? I mean FFS they put their own picture and search engine in, that is it.
I agree MS is more concerned about keeping o2, Tmobile or other carrier happy and as per normal do not care about ned user. We paid for this device and we should get an update ASAP bypassing carriers. Apple 3gs runs software of apple 4 and I think apple 3g also so no they do not force you to buy new device.
Also as said before all apple users get update from apple on apple rules and apple does not care about carriers.
You say you can not look at this OS as regression, you say update is doomed to fail due to high expectations that will never be fulfilled. Did you stop to think where are those expectations coming from. It is only normal to compare new OS to old one to see the upgrades, advantages. With WP7 there is only one smooth interface. People expect the same fitures that were in windows mobile, that all other OS makers copied. C&P, internet sharing, portable storage mode are just few big ones that MS ignored?! Why?! Why there is still no GPS software, it seems no big makers want to make one, that can only be Microsoft fault and do not tell me they care about customers because then they would be insisting for TomTom or copilot do one to complete their platform.
The only things I have read about other Nav software has been sketchy. And one of the reasons (real or not) is because they don't want to compete with whatever Bing updates are coming (whenever that is).
Not sure if its legit or not, but I saw it somewhere.
I will say that seeing Bing be so far superior on the other platforms is horse ****. If they want to do any one thing to make me more satisfied that would be it. Beyond that, as important as the update is I'm not going to cry about it taking this long.
Especially if it has to do with the carriers.
Bing navigation is **** that is it. It might work for US where significant number of people never leave US. However here in Europe, rest of the world as well people take their cars/bikes abroad and want to use GPS. Data roaming costs more then brick of gold so sorry that makes any online navigation ****.
I will not even mention fact that if you have basic gprs connection (the slowest) navigation will not work for sudden change of roads.
I have the dell venue pro TMo US. Just received my pre-nodo and nodo update today. I love you microsoft. Hope this fixes the wifi issue. No problems so far.
I've updated my HD7 to NoDo via the process of disconnecting data while Zune is checking for the update. Worked like a charm. I did this yesterday, couldn't rely on MS anymore to add my device to their batch process. The update is out there approved by most of the carriers. MS is the one that's limiting the update through whatever criteria within the Zune.
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Maybe it's time for you to adandon MS all together. Chances are you'll be *****ing about them from here on out so why put yourself through it?
Maybe I'm mising something but I figure by now if it was ALL MS's fault more carriers would have pointed fingers back at them just to save face f nothing else, right?
I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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What the hell do u mean, INDIA of all places? O.O
Motorola gets a really good share of profits only cuz of its sales of Moto G and Moto E in India! And please oh please... I hope u are not being racist!
And there are so many threads discussing this man.. If u said you actually having been reading XDA regularly u would have known better not to clutter the General Forum... What can people at XDA do about this? How can posting here help? Only Motorola can help, contact their customer care or through social media for your answer!!
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I've been a long time reader of this forum, since blackberry pearl was the newest hottest phone, but until now have yet to register. I got my turbo a week after release, and i love it...i read all these articles who's getting lollipop and when....If motorola is updating all their old phones from 2012, and us with their flagship phone have yet to get it, and there releasing phones this month with 5.0 on them to INDIA of all places, guys Turbo prolly isnt going to see it for awhile if ever...This phone IMO was like verizons ellipsis tablet, released with one update and no further information lol yeah we all want a bug free OS, but to do a 3 year old phone and not your flagship phone?
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These threads are tiring.
In that VoLTE is natively supported in 5.1, did you not consider that may be why there was a hold up, because Verizon wanted that?
I'll bet you 1,000.00 dollars we get Lollipop. Are you game? Post your paypal if so. I could use the money from an easily won bet
Edit: And yeah, that India comment was misplaced.
Yeah looks like its confirmed that the 5.1 HD Voice does mean it works with Verzion VoLTE (I wasn't sure based on the screenshot they had). Seems very possible when Motorola learned about this they held off on their 5.01 or whatever with HD Voice added in to just release the version with the code in it already. Which is a good thing. Because had they released 5.0.1 or whatever a couple of weeks ago, you would have people whining for 5.1. Hopefully this means it will hit the Turbo in a short time.
I made a post about the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon with 5.1 already on it and suggested that the DT might be jumping straight to 5.1 around the time the Nexus 6 drops on Verizon. My hit or miss post doesn't seem so irrelevant now. lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3041938
GreaterLesser said:
I made a post about the Nexus 6 coming to Verizon with 5.1 already on it and suggested that the DT might be jumping straight to 5.1 around the time the Nexus 6 drops on Verizon. My hit or miss post doesn't seem so irrelevant now. lol
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Indeed.
Congrats on your first post FAIL. How could you think the turbo wouldn't get another update that's ludicrous.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080
bigv5150 said:
Congrats on your first post FAIL. How could you think the turbo wouldn't get another update that's ludicrous.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger then yours" XT1080
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Agreed. The phone is still fairly new and considered a current flagship phone for Motorola (Next to the Nexus 6 but that's Google's baby as well so I don't think it can count as Motorola's flagship entirely). Getting back to my point, saying that a flagship phone is not going to get an update to "the latest and greatest in android" is just asking for someone to talk badly about you and even more so a cry for attention. Which is something we don't need.
What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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Don't worry about it. It's just kinda tense here sometimes, and we're all kinda surly and curmudgeonly because we seem to be kept in the dark regarding just about everything related to this device. Everyone has or had certain expectations from it and the support that we were expecting by Motorola and/or Verizon, and it's nowhere near as exciting as we'd hoped.
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What I mean by India is a third world country of all places... .
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I am not sure what your concept of India is, but its a highly developing country... most of the worlds best mathematicians, physicists, etc are indian. Its not like the genies and gypsies you read about in Disney books
Edit: Some* not most
diabl0w said:
I am not sure what your concept of India is, but its a highly developing country... most of the worlds best mathematicians, physicists, etc are indian. Its not like the genies and gypsies you read about in Disney books
Edit: Some* not most
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Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. I was offended by the "third world country" comment and I'm an Italian American! ?
Not much of an apology...
Anyway I gave up wanting lollipop I am hoping Verizon and Motorola scrap the droid and unlock the bootloader
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What I mean by India is a third world country of all places before here where it launched. I hope I am wrong but like my tablet I went into Verizon was was talked to by a salesman to go with this newest device it's a flagship device so I did and the updates are where? I left the Galaxy line with no issues great reception speedy updates... My tablet was the same thing a verizon exclusive updated once and forgotten.
What I'm saying is why update stuff that's old when after two years most people upgrade? My flagship store, I'm there daily to make sure it's running good, clean and people want to come back the old store has a customer base like the old phones they update them when it's time to update them things.
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Seriously!?! INDIA is one of the powerful economies right now...!! Third world country? Seriously? Watch your words man... I am not saying this just cus I am an INDIAN n I m proud of it, but just being born in a country doesn't give you the rights to think less of other places.... Country's and states are just imaginary lines that MAN drew on a piece of paper... We are all born equal, nothing gives u the right to enjoy something more n for someone else to do less, just cus they are born somewhere else... OK to make things clear, giving examples from the tech world itself...
1) Sundar Pichai, is an Indian businessman and a Senior Vice President at Google, where he oversees Android, Chrome, and Google Apps.
2) Punit Soni- the Guy who's Google Plus account people used to Flood asking for Motorola Updates? VP at Motorola.
3)One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
4)36% of scientists at NASA are Indians
U can google any of that to check for its credibility... I just wanted to prove India or Indians are no less... Please broaden ur mindset!
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Seriously!?! INDIA is one of the powerful economies right now...!! Third world country? Seriously? Watch your words man... I am not saying this just cus I am an INDIAN n I m proud of it, but just being born in a country doesn't give you the rights to think less of other places.... Country's and states are just imaginary lines that MAN drew on a piece of paper... We are all born equal, nothing gives u the right to enjoy something more n for someone else to do less, just cus they are born somewhere else... OK to make things clear, giving examples from the tech world itself...
1) Sundar Pichai, is an Indian businessman and a Senior Vice President at Google, where he oversees Android, Chrome, and Google Apps.
2) Punit Soni- the Guy who's Google Plus account people used to Flood asking for Motorola Updates? VP at Motorola.
3)One in every 3 Apple engineers is Indian
4)36% of scientists at NASA are Indians
U can google any of that to check for its credibility... I just wanted to prove India or Indians are no less... Please broaden ur mindset!
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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I did not get that hint at all from his post, John.
johnbravado said:
Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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If you had actually read n comprehend what I wrote you'd have a different opinion.
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Are you saying you are better than someone else. Those are some pretty bold brags about your superiority as a race?
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I take things wrong all the time, and I too did not get that from his reply.
I'd say he said we are all on equal footing. Though I might question some Indian coding I've seen
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If you had actually read n comprehend what I wrote you'd have a different opinion.
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So now I am ignorant compared to your vast Indian intellect? I can't read or comprehend english?
It's obvious we will get lollipop and now that 5.1 was released looks like that's what Motorola was waiting for and or the nexus 6 coming soon to vzw. Patience is a virtue and now that we have about 5 months now without lollipop then let's keep waiting. Better having a less bugs version than getting a rushed update of 5.0.1 or 5.0.2
Why Not OREO Still?
I think samsung wont release Oreo for note8, until S9 is out there it mean If u want Oreo than go buy s9/s9+
but what do u think?
because the milk man hasn't done his round yet.
My phone still makes calls etc.. so I am cool. I bought the device for its hardware not the OS
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My phone still makes calls etc.. so I am cool. I bought the device for its hardware not the OS
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I generally agree with this sentiment because Samsung offers so many features out of the box that don't depend on OS upgrades. There is an exception for Android 8/Oreo.... Those Bluetooth codecs: APTX HD and LDAC for premium Bluetooth audio.
I couldn't care less about Android 8 if it weren't for the codecs that unlock the rest of my Note 8's potential. I go wired headphones on my Note 8 or just use HiFi BT headphones with my Mi Mix running Android 8, which has the codecs.
This is the frustrating element of owning Samsung phones their updates are really slow as compared to other manufacturers like my previous Sony Xperia XZ Premium got the oreo two months ago!
why so many threads about not having oreo yet
Last year, they delivered nougat to S7 and S7 Edge in May.
So we still 2 mouths ahead the schedule (Samsung schedule).
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Last year, they delivered nougat to S7 and S7 Edge in May.
So we still 2 mouths ahead the schedule (Samsung schedule).
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Indonesian G935FD got nougat in February before s8/+ launching :victory:
Oreo update for s8/+ should come before s9/+ landing
My guess, and it is a guess, is that we aren't far away. There are more and more carrier's getting the February security patches, but they are normally the last to get updates, and those that normally get the updates earlier are still waiting and stuck on the January release. My suspicion is that rather than release the February security updates on Nougat, we are waiting for an impending Oreo release.
I'm sure if you're hunting the latest OS number, Samsung is definitely not your Manufacturer of choice and shouldn't be. Go for a OnePlus who has the newest numbers.
You can cry about it how much you want, it won't change a thing though. They'll release it in due time, when it's ready. You're phone is still able to make calls, handle IMs, browse the web and much more because Samsung usually loves to clutter their high-end phones with functions in comparison to others.
This is seriously getting out of hand, xda needs to monitor these threads and delete them. No point in crying about numbers.
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I'm sure if you're hunting the latest OS number, Samsung is definitely not your Manufacturer of choice and shouldn't be. Go for a OnePlus who has the newest numbers.
You can cry about it how much you want, it won't change a thing though. They'll release it in due time, when it's ready. You're phone is still able to make calls, handle IMs, browse the web and much more because Samsung usually loves to clutter their high-end phones with functions in comparison to others.
This is seriously getting out of hand, xda needs to monitor these threads and delete them. No point in crying about numbers.
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OH THANKS God, My phone Note 8 is still able to make calls, so what you expect? if making call Was enough for me, Then I should've bought Samsung J1 or Nokia 1100 Not note8, But I paid for note8 because I want to use latest android. and I thin samsung wont release it in next 3 month.
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why so many threads about not having oreo yet
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Look at the view count for any thread that mentions 'Oreo', it tells you people here are desperate for it.
We will get Oreo this month according to some quite trustworthy leakers (Exynos). And US models might get it later this year. I guess Samsung had to fix some problems in February and they just decided to skip Oreo release until March. So that we will get Oreo with March security patch.
Don't worry man. It's around the corner. One day You will wake up and see Oreo OTA .
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OH THANKS God, My phone Note 8 is still able to make calls, so what you expect? if making call Was enough for me, Then I should've bought Samsung J1 or Nokia 1100 Not note8, But I paid for note8 because I want to use latest android. and I thin samsung wont release it in next 3 month.
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You do know most people bought the Note8 because it's actually a really convenient phone right and not just some show-off piece of glass & metal?
(With it's signature S-Pen, "big" display and primarily office /usability focus).
You're definitely in the wrong if you think buying the latest and greatest from a big company equals getting fast updates.
Surely Samsung could bust updates every 2 days to ensure People like you don't get on their nerves, but it's just that irrelevant to them and the vast majority.
Seriously, as long as you get your security patches, you're good to go IF you're one of those super concerned people.
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You do know most people bought the Note8 because it's actually a really convenient phone right and not just some show-off piece of glass & metal?
(With it's signature S-Pen, "big" display and primarily office /usability focus).
You're definitely in the wrong if you think buying the latest and greatest from a big company equals getting fast updates.
Surely Samsung could bust updates every 2 days to ensure People like you don't get on their nerves, but it's just that irrelevant to them and the vast majority.
Seriously, as long as you get your security patches, you're good to go IF you're one of those super concerned people.
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There’s no reason for the rollout to be as delayed as it is, But Samsung raped hard note 8 user, People running carrier-locked versions of the devices have to wait even longer for the update, and by that time, Google will already have revealed this year’s version of Android; Android P.
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There’s no reason for the rollout to be as delayed as it is, But Samsung raped hard note 8 user, People running carrier-locked versions of the devices have to wait even longer for the update, and by that time, Google will already have revealed this year’s version of Android; Android P.
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No reason you say to be delayed?
Well, fine by me. Please do go ahead and have some unfinished version of SE 9.0 installed on your Note8 with loads of (to be expected) FCs. At least you'll have the latest and greatest Android 8.x right? Lmfao, pathetic.
Let them refine the 8.x release for the Note8. Samsung hasn't "raped" anyone in terms of SW updates and refrain from using words like that, you can surely articulate yourself a bit more appropriate. We'll eventually get the update.
Lastly, I really don't understand you or anyone else who's crying over not having the latest OS version. I don't get it, but yeah please continue to cry and entertain us.
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No reason you say to be delayed?
Well, fine by me. Please do go ahead and have some unfinished version of SE 9.0 installed on your Note8 with loads of (to be expected) FCs. At least you'll have the latest and greatest Android 8.x right? Lmfao, pathetic.
Let them refine the 8.x release for the Note8. Samsung hasn't "raped" anyone in terms of SW updates and refrain from using words like that, you can surely articulate yourself a bit more appropriate. We'll eventually get the update.
Lastly, I really don't understand you or anyone else who's crying over not having the latest OS version. I don't get it, but yeah please continue to cry and entertain us.
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Loads of FCs? But.. Note8 SD internal releases of Oreo are kinda bugless, S8 has identical HW and no bugs, S7E got internal release which is like 99% stable (and that 1% can be easily fixed).
And You should know the difference between complaining about lack of updates and crying.
Complaining: "Note8 is the latest phone from Samsung so why don't we get latest updates? S7E has stable SEx 9.0. We should get it too!"
Crying: ":crying::crying::crying::crying:y no oreooo halp i hate my phone!!:crying::crying:"
If You can't tell the difference between these two then I don't know. Maybe leave XDA? XDA is supposed to be helpful and positive. We don't need any negativity here.
Last Oreo thread was closed because of negativity and disrespectful behaviour.
Also, notice that when S8 users complained about Oreo update being delayed. And said that they won't buy Samsung phones anymore. Samsung quickly made a new update.
And Note8 users don't complain about it, and if they do, they get harassed by people like You. So no one talks about Oreo and we have to wait because Samsung thinks that we don't need Oreo.
I as a Dev would love to get Oreo already because my Dev friends are making S9 ports for S7E and S8 and I can't make one cause Samsung doesn't give us Oreo.
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Loads of FCs? But.. Note8 SD internal releases of Oreo are kinda bugless, S8 has identical HW and no bugs, S7E got internal release which is like 99% stable (and that 1% can be easily fixed).
And You should know the difference between complaining about lack of updates and crying.
Complaining: "Note8 is the latest phone from Samsung so why don't we get latest updates? S7E has stable SEx 9.0. We should get it too!"
Crying: ":crying::crying::crying::crying:y no oreooo halp i hate my phone!!:crying::crying:"
If You can't tell the difference between these two then I don't know. Maybe leave XDA? XDA is supposed to be helpful and positive. We don't need any negativity here.
Last Oreo thread was closed because of negativity and disrespectful behaviour.
Also, notice that when S8 users complained about Oreo update being delayed. And said that they won't buy Samsung phones anymore. Samsung quickly made a new update.
And Note8 users don't complain about it, and if they do, they get harassed by people like You. So no one talks about Oreo and we have to wait because Samsung thinks that we don't need Oreo.
I as a Dev would love to get Oreo already because my Dev friends are making S9 ports for S7E and S8 and I can't make one cause Samsung doesn't give us Oreo.
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There's the thing my dude: It's not harassment nor negativity. Some xda sub-forums are slowly becoming more like reddit and that's annoying as hell. In all seriousness, you got your opinion and I got mine concerning users crying about newest OS version. (Just look at the OPs answers. Don't even need elaboration).
At some point it gets unbearable, I dare you to say "No it doesn't". Be real.
Trust me, I've been enjoying xda and it's "healthy" community because it's one amazing platform for people to connect and make Phone's software greater with team effort.
Now it's just people buying a phone, finding xda and expecting things to work from people who are doing stuff here for free & fun and in their free time. (e.g. The Xiaomi forums are cancerous or the Xposed nougat thread, when it was in the works)
I may not be a "known" Dev like you on xda, I do my own thing making smaller apps for friends and small local companies.
I got the patience and endurance to answer repetitive or similar questions over and over again, trust me.
If you feel this is negativity, I respect that, alright. I'm just being real.
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There's the thing my dude: It's not harassment nor negativity. Some xda sub-forums are slowly becoming more like reddit and that's annoying as hell. In all seriousness, you got your opinion and I got mine concerning users crying about newest OS version. (Just look at the OPs answers. Don't even need elaboration).
At some point it gets unbearable, I dare you to say "No it doesn't". Be real.
Trust me, I've been enjoying xda and it's "healthy" community because it's one amazing platform for people to connect and make Phone's software greater with team effort.
Now it's just people buying a phone, finding xda and expecting things to work from people who are doing stuff here for free & fun and in their free time. (e.g. The Xiaomi forums are cancerous or the Xposed nougat thread, when it was in the works)
I may not be a "known" Dev like you on xda, I do my own thing making smaller apps for friends and small local companies.
I got the patience and endurance to answer repetitive or similar questions over and over again, trust me.
If you feel this is negativity, I respect that, alright. I'm just being real.
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Wow. I didn't expect such professional answer lol. This response restored my faith in XDA a little. And I know that Xiaomi forums are slightly messy. I love threads where someone asks for a name of some theme and everyone responds with "thank you" , "beautiful theme link pls" .
Oh, and I'm not a known Dev on XDA . I'm just trying to make people happy with some "unique" roms. And it would be awesome if You'd share some of Your Dev work with us . Maybe some us would find it useful? .
And I know that we had a lot of Oreo threads already and they have identical questions and answers. Because we are just people not Samsung's employees so we can't tell someone when they will get Oreo. But I guess we can deal with these guys in a slightly more polite way and just tell them that we all are waiting for Oreo instead of saying that they are crying. People here live in various countries and have different cultures than we do. And some of them might find word "crying" offensive and disrespectful.
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Wow. I didn't expect such professional answer lol. This response restored my faith in XDA a little. And I know that Xiaomi forums are slightly messy. I love threads where someone asks for a name of some theme and everyone responds with "thank you" , "beautiful theme link pls" .
Oh, and I'm not a known Dev on XDA . I'm just trying to make people happy with some "unique" roms. And it would be awesome if You'd share some of Your Dev work with us . Maybe some us would find it useful? .
And I know that we had a lot of Oreo threads already and they have identical questions and answers. Because we are just people not Samsung's employees so we can't tell someone when they will get Oreo. But I guess we can deal with these guys in a slightly more polite way and just tell them that we all are waiting for Oreo instead of saying that they are crying.
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All good, glad we aligned back on one wavelength.
About the dev work:
Mostly is just freelancing, IT students gotta do what we can do, to make that paper. That's why I haven't contributed to xda so far in regards to releases.
Agreed on the bit with just telling them off instead of crying. But yeah, I do assume you can relate if something is getting penetratingly much lol.