I am sure this has probably been asked before but I couldn't find a clear answer.
I have the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note 4. I am thinking of changing my provider to T-Mobile (for a bunch of reasons including I have come to hate AT&T). I know the AT&T version will work on the T-Mobile network as a Smartphone with a T-Mobile SIM. But I have several questions.
1. From what I have been reading, it appears that the AT&T bootloader is locked. Is that correct? So does that mean I won't be able to put in a T-Mobile ROM or a ROM from here?
2. If I can't put in a T-Mobile ROM and unlock the bootloader, how will I be able to get future updates for the phone once I have switched to T-Mobile. I currently have the latest official AT&T OTA release (5.1.1, Baseband N910AUCU2DOI2, Kernel 3.10.40-5613584, etc.). But Samsung has promised Marshmallow for this phone.
Any thoughts anyone? Or should I just break down and buy a T-Mobile phone or a Google Nexus 6P?
Thanks
-- Charley
charley000 said:
I am sure this has probably been asked before but I couldn't find a clear answer.
I have the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note 4. I am thinking of changing my provider to T-Mobile (for a bunch of reasons including I have come to hate AT&T). I know the AT&T version will work on the T-Mobile network as a Smartphone with a T-Mobile SIM. But I have several questions.
1. From what I have been reading, it appears that the AT&T bootloader is locked. Is that correct? So does that mean I won't be able to put in a T-Mobile ROM or a ROM from here?
2. If I can't put in a T-Mobile ROM and unlock the bootloader, how will I be able to get future updates for the phone once I have switched to T-Mobile. I currently have the latest official AT&T OTA release (5.1.1, Baseband N910AUCU2DOI2, Kernel 3.10.40-5613584, etc.). But Samsung has promised Marshmallow for this phone.
Any thoughts anyone? Or should I just break down and buy a T-Mobile phone or a Google Nexus 6P?
Thanks
-- Charley
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You can do updates using samsung keis... look into cricket wireless, I hated tmobile, the messed my bills up constantly and the service was iffy... if u have good service with att cricket will be the same for 35 bucks a month. Make sure you carrier unlock your phone with art BEFORE YOU CANCEL!
I bought a Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge few months ago. Now I moved to T-Mobile. I am using the phone right now without any issues.
There is still Verizon crap on it that I cannot uninstall. Is it possible to install stock or preferably, T-Mobile firmware on this device?
I'll just keep it short and sweet. Practically speaking, no.
Better explanation please
The phones are identical except the firmware. Why would it not work? I would like to do the same so I can access better reception and wifi calling. There's literally nothing different Hardware wise between the diff carrier versions other than what each carrier unlocks or blocks. Can someone give a more detailed reason why it won't work?
This is a great question.... I'd like to know the same, BUT, for me, Tmobile charges too much for single service here in Colorado.
What about just bypass frp?
As far as I'm aware I believe the Note 5, based on the Exynos7420 uses a different modem chip in each carrier. Originally I thought the S6 Edge was still a universal World Phone. But even rooted, some people have still had problems actually migrating from Verizon to T-Mobile.
I've had a tester somehow manage to install a TMobile modem on an AT&T Note5, but it messed up the Device Root Key. Which I do believe is the "hardware baked" signature used to decrypt firmware.
android-rox said:
I bought a Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge few months ago. Now I moved to T-Mobile. I am using the phone right now without any issues.
There is still Verizon crap on it that I cannot uninstall. Is it possible to install stock or preferably, T-Mobile firmware on this device?
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Look at the instructions posted here to remove bloatware. I believe if you substitute the correct counterpart firmware the process is still doable. There is also the De-Bloater v3.90 app that should work as well.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75842235&postcount=110
I'm probably not going to ask this correctly, but here goes.
I'm seriously considering switching my carrier from Verizon to ATT due to better pricing (and other reasons).
I would be bringing my Galaxy S6 (sm-G920V) over to ATT as part of the switch.
I know that I can't root my current phone with the current build because the last update "fixed" that, is but if I switch, will my build change to something else that might be "rootable"?
In other words, will my new carrier (ATT) wipe my phone and put "their" build on it?
marklyn said:
I'm probably not going to ask this correctly, but here goes.
I'm seriously considering switching my carrier from Verizon to ATT due to better pricing (and other reasons).
I would be bringing my Galaxy S6 (sm-G920V) over to ATT as part of the switch.
I know that I can't root my current phone with the current build because the last update "fixed" that, is but if I switch, will my build change to something else that might be "rootable"?
In other words, will my new carrier (ATT) wipe my phone and put "their" build on it?
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If you bring your phone, you will remain on the same build. The only thing that will change is you'll put an at&t sim in and it won't say 'verizon' anymore.
Also, I don't think you'll get future updates for the device from Verizon anymore, and at&t cannot update the security patches or future os versions.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Does anybody know if the unlocked s10 will have access to Multi-line settings or has had experience with previous unlocked variants having access?
On T-Mobile this setting is specifically used for native "Digits" functionality without having to use an app. It's the only concern I have purchasing the unlocked variant.
I can't speak for the S10. The Note 9 however has built in Digits support in the TMobile variant, but requires downloading the app for the US unlocked variant. Chances are the S10 is also like this.
mosi76 said:
Does anybody know if the unlocked s10 will have access to Multi-line settings or has had experience with previous unlocked variants having access?
On T-Mobile this setting is specifically used for native "Digits" functionality without having to use an app. It's the only concern I have purchasing the unlocked variant.
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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When you say that you didn't have any TMobile bloatware when you flashed the TMobile firmware, are you referring to the general TMobile apps (like TMobile account app, VVM, etc)? or are you referring to some other 3rd party apps that TMobile puts on post-firmware. I always thought the TMobile apps would be there if flashing TMobile firmware, but I could be wrong.
Kjn246 said:
When you say that you didn't have any TMobile bloatware when you flashed the TMobile firmware, are you referring to the general TMobile apps (like TMobile account app, VVM, etc)? or are you referring to some other 3rd party apps that TMobile puts on post-firmware. I always thought the TMobile apps would be there if flashing TMobile firmware, but I could be wrong.
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3rd party apps, for example "Lookout" antivirus app wasn't there and other that T-Mobile might put there. These apps need to be disabled and can't be uninstalled. I am fine with T-Mobile account app and VVM. When flashing, just need to flash main firmware files(4 of them) and the 5th one was userdata, which has all the unneeded stuff
When you do this, don't you void something that doesn't let you use samsung pay, etc?
Charkatak said:
So I had Unlocked S8 on T-Mobile and I believe S9 and S10 might have the same thing. Basically unlocked version only had: WiFi Calling, Band 12 and VoLTE and there was no Milti-Line setting, unless if you get T-Mobile branded phone. What I have done to my S8, is I flashed it with T-Mo firmware and got all the features without bloatware
This time I ordered S10e unlocked and upon getting it, will inspect and see which features unlocked model will offer and if need be, will flash to T-Mobile firmware
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gotnoypi said:
When you do this, don't you void something that doesn't let you use samsung pay, etc?
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No, because I flashed my phone with an official Samsung firmware
Should have known so I could have purchased the unlocked version. Thanks for the info.
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No, because I flashed my phone with an official Samsung firmware
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gotnoypi said:
Should have known so I could have purchased the unlocked version. Thanks for the info.
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Not a big deal as there were times when T-Mobile for example would release monthly security patches couple of weeks earlier and possibly the Android upgrade version early too(not always though). As I understand that Samsung is obligated to release an update for carrier branded phones and then can released for their unlocked units. If you would want to flash your phone down the road, you could. It is just the process may not be as straight forward as flashing unlocked model
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
gotnoypi said:
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Luckily you got to speak to someone who actually knows or at least should know. I have messaged them through the app and through Twitter and got the same basic kinda answer but no specifics and that's if they even knew what I was talking about. Hopefully it happens soon. Thanks for the update
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Luckily you got to speak to someone who actually knows or at least should know. I have messaged them through the app and through Twitter and got the same basic kinda answer but no specifics and that's if they even knew what I was talking about. Hopefully it happens soon. Thanks for the update
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I took multiple tries on chat and call. Luckily I got forwarded to DIGITS team and the person knows exactly the issue and is not reading off knowledge base or written instructions.
Hopefully it arrives soon as I don't want to use the DIGITS app for it.
T-Mobile DIGITS team has actually been telling customers that the native multiline feature will not be coming to the S10 or supported on other devices anymore because they destaffed that dev team. They are phasing out the feature. Absolutely horrible decision. The DIGITS app is hot trash. They have a **** load of customer pissed about it. Especially in the business segment like me. There's a scathing thread over on the T-Mobile's forums about it.
So, now T-Mobile DIGITS experts are telling people that they are waiting on an update from Samsung to make the feature possible again.
So, I don't what the **** is going on. It's ****ery.
Unless we hear something directly from Samsung, everything is now just hear say. I'm still hoping for a software update to push out the feature.
Actually, the multi-line setting was garbage. Even on my previous Note 8 and current unlocked Huawei P20 Pro, I use the DIGITS app. Luckily, with previous T-Mobile lines, got DIGITS for free. For new customers and new lines, I think it costs some monthly fees.
Thank you!
gotnoypi said:
Ok one thing I learned today as I was setting up my s10+. The Multi-line feature is still not activated in S10+ (most likely in other s10 variant as well). I spoke with Tmobile Digits team and it was just confirm to them yesterday that S10 doesn't support multi-line yet. The only way to use DIGITS is trough the digits app. It's definitely a bummer.
I was also told that the same situation applies to the previous phones during launch (S9 or Note9) where it wasn't initially activated. It was delivered through a software upgrade afterwards. So I'm hoping this software update arrives sooner than later.
Hope this helps other member's using DIGITS.
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Hey, thank you so much for posting this. I tried to contact thru customer support, Twitter, calls, walk-ins.. Seems like T-Mobile employees aren't aware not only of this issue, but of the option at all..
don't mean to resurrect this old thread, but i got my S10 a few days ago and just got off the phone with the DIGITS support, after being transferred numerous times by people that didn't know what i was even talking about. the guy said that samsung told them (tmobile) a few months ago that they are removing multi-line settings from all new devices and that users need to start using the DIGITS app instead. he even said that with any further updates on the phones that currently have multi-line settings, the updates will actually remove those settings from the phones. pretty crappy if you ask me.
I'm still using a Samsung S7 with multi-line set to On, with T-Mobile. I didn't like their Digits app, much prefer the phone's native multi-line ability. However, as others above have said, T-Moble Digits support told me that Samsung was going to remove that ability. For now, it still works albeit buggy. I have to turn the phone off then on multiple times a day to keep the second line working properly. Does anyone know another Android phone that supports multi-line with T-Mobile, but correctly?
I posted in wrong area hopefully this is right spot...
Hello, new to forum. I have a Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G Model number SM-G998U It's from at&t unlocked I'm using mint mobile When I try to update I get a software Update Interrupted message try again in 24 hours. I backed up and reset phone but it didn't fix this issue. Probably because I need an at&t Sim card, not sure.
Second related question is there a non at&t neutral rom that I can download and install ? So that I'm not relevant on at&t and that hopefully won't Include at&t bloatware.
I've modified a few phones before with different roms though it's been awhile.
I'm Learning the hard way, the difference between a truly unlocked phone and a carrier unlocked one.
I just can't afford a $1,200 new phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you.
Welcome to XDA
Personally I wouldn't worry about updates. AT&T updates can update over wifi or a special AT&T update cell tower. If the AT&T firmware is intact using wifi OTA updates might work. Otherwise a Samsung Experience center at Best Buys can do it. Or you could do it yourself.
I avoid touching the firmware on my N10+'s, this one in my hand is still running happily on Pie... lol, Samsung upgrades/updates can and do break things. Once bitten, twice shy.
having the same issue with a used unlocked ATT device that I bought recently in India. Unable to update it. Is possible to load the stock ROM and remove the AT&T one from this phone? will that help?
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Welcome to XDA
Personally I wouldn't worry about updates. AT&T updates can update over wifi or a special AT&T update cell tower. If the AT&T firmware is intact using wifi OTA updates might work. Otherwise a Samsung Experience center at Best Buys can do it. Or you could do it yourself.
I avoid touching the firmware on my N10+'s, this one in my hand is still running happily on Pie... lol, Samsung upgrades/updates can and do break things. Once bitten, twice shy.
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Thank you, sounds like best option is best buy for me...
You can always download the latest unlocked firmware from https://samfw.com/ and flash it with Odin