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Any reason to upgrade to the Galaxy Note 20 (Ultra)?

I want your thoughts. Why would or wouldn't I upgrade from a Galaxy Note 9 to the new Galaxy Note 20 (or Note 20 Ultra)?
Here's what I think/understand about the situation:
The Galaxy Note 9 still works fine
Android 10 will be the last Android upgrade the Note 9 will see.
One UI Updates for the Galaxy Note 9 until One Ui 2.5. Note 9 users won't get One UI 3.0 and beyond
It looks like us Note 9 users will continue to receive security updates. But, for how long?
Of course the Galaxy Note 20/Galaxy Note 20 Ultra are going to be better devices than the Note 9 in terms of specs, that's to be expected. If my screen was cracked, I could justify an upgrade.
Any other compelling reasons or features that would make one want to upgrade?

Bottom line, people will get one for their own reason. Or get one because they have had every Note since Note 1.
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No

The Note9 has:
No notch or hole display
Headphone jack
Led notification light
Iris scanner
Heart rate monitor
Bixby button (yes i say it as an advantage, I've made it a mute toggle via BxActions app)
Better rear camera design (personal opinion)
Hard press home button
More reliable rear placed physical fingerprint sensor
512GB storage (I'm comparing the 512/8 GB model as that's the best Note9 model)
Note20 Ultra has:
Ultrawide camera
S Pen air actions
No bixby button (can be advantage or disadvantage)
Wireless powershare
Ultra wide band chip which they advertised
5G
Longer software update support
Honestly the Note9 seems like a better device imo. The features it has are very useful in every day situations.
The only thing missing from it which would have been nice is the Ultra wide camera which isn't as big of a deal as the headphone jack or a nice looking uninterrupted display. Cameras on Note9 still take amazing pictures and video. Everyone who sees them is surprised how good they are. I just bought my 512 Exynos 5 months ago and am loving it more than any device that launched after it. Also don't care for software updates so that's that. It got Android 8.1 out of the box, got Android 9, got Android 10 with OneUI 2.0, got OneUI 2.1 and seems like it will get OneUI 2.5. I mentioned UI updates as those introduce more features than an OS update Basically you've almost got a Note20 Ultra in terms of software but you've also got more features which you'd actually use daily. And that Ocean Blue with the yellow S Pen looks awesome
PS: The regular Note20 is a joke and shouldn't even be considered.

If there is something that YOU need on the Note 20/20 Ultra then you get it. Don't look to us to justify a purchase. I'm not trying to be rude just being honest.
At the end of the day you're going to do what you feel you want. We can't make or stop you from getting a device that you're obviously interested in

I only upgrade to Note 20 with Snapdragon 865. Mostly because I pretty hate the curved screen on Note 9. Too inconvenient

I'll get the Note 20, when i hit the lottery. The more people that buy it, the next Note will be $1500.00. If i said what i really think, i'd be barred from this forum.

koragg97 said:
The Note9 has:
No notch or hole display
Headphone jack
Led notification light
Iris scanner
Heart rate monitor
Bixby button (yes i say it as an advantage, I've made it a mute toggle via BxActions app)
Better rear camera design (personal opinion)
Hard press home button
More reliable rear placed physical fingerprint sensor
512GB storage (I'm comparing the 512/8 GB model as that's the best Note9 model)
Note20 Ultra has:
Ultrawide camera
S Pen air actions
No bixby button (can be advantage or disadvantage)
Wireless powershare
Ultra wide band chip which they advertised
5G
Longer software update support
Honestly the Note9 seems like a better device imo. The features it has are very useful in every day situations.
The only thing missing from it which would have been nice is the Ultra wide camera which isn't as big of a deal as the headphone jack or a nice looking uninterrupted display. Cameras on Note9 still take amazing pictures and video. Everyone who sees them is surprised how good they are. I just bought my 512 Exynos 5 months ago and am loving it more than any device that launched after it. Also don't care for software updates so that's that. It got Android 8.1 out of the box, got Android 9, got Android 10 with OneUI 2.0, got OneUI 2.1 and seems like it will get OneUI 2.5. I mentioned UI updates as those introduce more features than an OS update Basically you've almost got a Note20 Ultra in terms of software but you've also got more features which you'd actually use daily. And that Ocean Blue with the yellow S Pen looks awesome
PS: The regular Note20 is a joke and shouldn't even be considered.
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I am using a Note 9 since it was launched and I love it so much. A bit disappointed that I didn't get the 512gb variant because it cost about $300 more.

You can install a 512gb SD card. I won't touch the Note 20 now, because I refuse to get a bank loan for a cell phone. In about 18 to 24 months, I could get one for half the price.

grunt0300 said:
You can install a 512gb SD card. I won't touch the Note 20 now, because I refuse to get a bank loan for a cell phone. In about 18 to 24 months, I could get one for half the price.
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If you want it why not just do contract? Pay it out over time

grunt0300 said:
You can install a 512gb SD card. I won't touch the Note 20 now, because I refuse to get a bank loan for a cell phone. In about 18 to 24 months, I could get one for half the price.
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You don't have to wait 18 to 24 months, in about 1 year you can find them 1/2 price...smartphones depreciate quicker than you think.

KingVekxin said:
If you want it why not just do contract? Pay it out over time
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I don't do contracts. If I can't buy it outright, I don't buy it.

Note 4 was the last smartphone that made sense to buy/keep and, sadly, it was neglected by the majority of the community (the Exynos version, thankfully there have been a couple of developers doing their magic). I hate the curved, narrow screen of the sequels, among other things. At least my Notes 9 and 8 still have a headphone jack. I wouldn't "upgrade" to antyhing over 9 even if they paid me.

The 1-120Hz variable refresh rate and the laser auto focus are interesting.

Nirrik said:
The 1-120Hz variable refresh rate and the laser auto focus are interesting.
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If we have learned anything form the S20 Ultra is that the Laser Auto Focus on the Note 20 Ultra would probably be very glitchy. Samsung will continuous be releasing software updates to try and fix it.

KingVekxin said:
If you want it why not just do contract? Pay it out over time
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Because most Samsung Notes do not even last 2 years.
No I will not be upgrading.
1. Enoughf with dumping the crappy chips on us in India. If you want our business offer us the option of buying the CPU we want or upgrade Indias status to first world i.e. give us the same chip sets as USA and China get.
2. Missing HR and O2 sensors which I use every day to measure my BP, Tune my medication.
3. You never know with Samsung what bug will crop up when. The S20 screens with the crappy Indian market chip started turning green. All over India after the s/w update.
4. In a few months you will know what the bugs are and it will be cheaper.
5. These phones are getting to be more like walking around with a glass egg that will scratch, bend, break. Each new version seems to get more delicate and more fragile.
6. The tension of walking around with and using a 1000+ phone is just not worth it. I find walking around with a cheap phone so liberating.
My Fav Note was the 4 and the 9.

RonChinoy said:
Because most Samsung Notes do not even last 2 years.
No I will not be upgrading.
1. Enoughf with dumping the crappy chips on us in India. If you want our business offer us the option of buying the CPU we want or upgrade Indias status to first world i.e. give us the same chip sets as USA and China get.
2. Missing HR and O2 sensors which I use every day to measure my BP, Tune my medication.
3. You never know with Samsung what bug will crop up when. The S20 screens with the crappy Indian market chip started turning green. All over India after the s/w update.
4. In a few months you will know what the bugs are and it will be cheaper.
5. These phones are getting to be more like walking around with a glass egg that will scratch, bend, break. Each new version seems to get more delicate and more fragile.
6. The tension of walking around with and using a 1000+ phone is just not worth it. I find walking around with a cheap phone so liberating.
My Fav Note was the 4 and the 9.
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If I could've held on to my 4 for a bit longer I would've. It had root, custom roms, plus I had an extended battery on mine. So I honestly understand what you mean. These things are getting more expensive, yet hilariously less durable.
The entire world isn't treated equally when it comes to chipsets and that leads to mixed issues that typically might not get fixed. Honestly? Me understanding what Samsung is doing and the piss poor reasoning behind it has lead me to start looking into other OEM. Like nokia, motorola, one plus. Just someone else with a better Android experience without the bs price tag but with decent specs and a bomb camera.

I agree...
I love my note9 and i would want to continue with more longer as i can. I bought it in August 2018. The first day arrival. 512 GB purple colour...still click amazing photos...
It rocks. I was waiting eagerly for note20 1 TB phone...but sorry will not shift to Note20.

I'm keeping my Note 9
I've read a lot of reviews and YouTube videos hyping the Note 20 Ultra and I don't see a reason to upgrade. My Note 9 will be paid off this month and I couldn't be happier. After receiving the OneUI 2.1 update, I noticed excessive battery drain and couldn't get through a whole day anymore without having to charge it. I reset my phone last week, and in addition to enabling an Adaptive Power setting, I have been able to restore all day use of my phone. It's working better than before so for me, I see no reason to upgrade.
There's a reason the phone is overpriced, yet the carriers are offering discounts up to 50% to encourage you to upgrade. I have a conspiracy theory that there may be something wrong with the phone that will come up in the first 6 months of widespread consumer use. (Remember the Note 7?) I don't usually jump on the "I NEED to upgrade right away" bandwagon for that particular reason. It's a major marketing ploy by Samsung to generate interest from the "Gotta have it NOW!" crowd. I know what you're doing Samsung and I'm not falling for it. I'm still part of the unemployed masses, so I'll be spending my money on more worthwhile things like feeding and housing my family. I plan on rocking my 9 for as long as I possibly can.

Note 9 is quite a classic phone, I will replace a battery to continue using it!It has been confirmed that One Ui 2.5 will be updated!

S20 FE vs oneplus 7 pro

Hi guys.
Does it worth to trade my OnePlus 7 Pro with S20 fe?
Thank you.

johnnyman25 said:
Hi guys.
Does it worth to trade my OnePlus 7 Pro with S20 fe?
Thank you.
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If you're not sure, the answer is no - only upgrade for clear improvements/performance gains - otherwise why would you upgrade?

jtOttawa said:
If you're not sure, the answer is no - only upgrade for clear improvements/performance gains - otherwise why would you upgrade?
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I have oneplus 7 pro 1 and a half year and I want some change.
That's why I'm thinking of S20 fe.

johnnyman25 said:
I have oneplus 7 pro 1 and a half year and I want some change.
That's why I'm thinking of S20 fe.
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there are dozens of videos on YouTube of the OnePlus 8T (newer than yours) up against S20FE and Pixel 4a etc. go watch a bus load of videos and you'll have a better idea. aside from that FE will have a newer processor, a memory card slot or dual SIM, but only you should decide if it's worth it.
remember there are a few versions of the FE and they are not all the same.

johnnyman25 said:
I have oneplus 7 pro 1 and a half year and I want some change.
That's why I'm thinking of S20 fe.
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Nope. It's not worth it. It also charges too slowly compared to oneplus. Wait for s21 fe or oneplus 9

Fullmetal Jun said:
Nope. It's not worth it. It also charges too slowly compared to oneplus. Wait for s21 fe or oneplus 9
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I agree - and I just upgraded to the S20 FE 5G. But I was coming from a Galaxy S9+, which is a year older than your 7 Pro. Even then, the S20 FE doesn't blow me away in comparison - I actually think the screen is nicer (and brighter in normal use) on the S9+, and I'm still getting used to the punch hole camera, and lack of a notification light. I bought it mainly for the increase in storage (as I use the SD Card slot for a second SIM, so can't add memory) and the 120 MHz display, faster processor etc. Even then, I don't really find it noticeably faster in normal use - as I mentioned in another post, it never ceases to amaze me just how much marketing departments and the media exaggerate each year's (real world) improvements. All of which is to say that phones have gotten so good - and have been for a few years now - that it makes no sense to upgrade until you either have to or there is a clear advantage to doing so.
Edit: Having done some more side-by-side comparison, the S20 FE 5G is noticeably faster of course, and the screen is fine. Plus, the battery life has been stellar. All-in-all, it's a great phone for the price - especially the 8GB/256GB 5G version.

Fullmetal Jun said:
Nope. It's not worth it. It also charges too slowly compared to oneplus.
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You generally don't want your phones to charge really fast, it's extremely detrimental to battery's lifespan. 15W-25W is already overdoing it and should be the maximum for most people.

I rarely get this phone below 50% and then it's up to 75 again pretty quick. if you want your phone to charge faster turn off Wi-Fi, go into airplane mode or even better switch it off for 30 mins.

3mel said:
I rarely get this phone below 50% and then it's up to 75 again pretty quick. if you want your phone to charge faster turn off Wi-Fi, go into airplane mode or even better switch it off for 30 mins.
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Or, better yet, just don't constantly watch it charge...

Question Considering the S21 Ultra...any recent feedback welcome (USA)

Hello,
So as ATT plans to kill my Huawei Mate 20 x I am forced to change phones and well, there is really nothing big in the market aside from the fold 2 which I did not love.
So, I am considering the S21 Ultra at least to get a nice set of cameras with this forced upgrade.
How are you guys liking the phone...any recent feedback based on new firmware upgrades is welcome
Thanks

No SD card slot. That means no data drive or easy factory resets.
Rounded display corners ugly it up bad... a weak offering from Sammy.
Go with a used Note 10+512gb Snapdragon or a new Note 20U.
Drop dead gorgeous displays. A used 10+ in excellent condition can be had for $650 at B&H Photo, a trusted vendor.

The S21 Ultra, Hong Kong variant (SM-G9980, CSC - TGY) is a great option for a number of reasons. Snapdragon SoC, recieves updates directly from Samsung sooner than US branded devices, no carrier bloatware, dual sim's, unlocked bootloader, none of which are available on the AT&T device. If call features and a warranty are a priority buy AT&Ts device but without a MicroSD and only 256GB (200GB usable) consider if that works for you. AT&T doesn't offer the 512GB any longer but the Hong Kong device still does at select retailers.

We may be jumping to Tmobile since they have the Samsung buy one get one free deal. But looks like my phone WILL work on Tmobile so we may not even need to swap phones.

(Not a flex)
I've had the S10+, S10 5G, S20 Ultra and now S21 Ultra. I can confidently say I love the S21 Ultra and will be keeping this one. A bit annoyed there is no SD card but it's not a huge issue, just use Google drove to back up crucial files and no MST. Was nice to have but even where I live they are adding NFC everywhere.
100% recommend this phone. Fixed all the issues I had with the S20 Ultra. Updates have been good (except this month). Firmware updates have also ironed out the bugs

I traded in a rooted Note 20 Ultra for a stock S21 Ultra about three months ago and have zero regrets. I'm not a fan of the case selection for the Note series and don't care for the sharp corners or pen.

Misterxtc said:
I traded in a rooted Note 20 Ultra for a stock S21 Ultra about three months ago and have zero regrets. I'm not a fan of the case selection for the Note series and don't care for the sharp corners or pen.
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Zizo Bolt case for the Notes. Excellent protection and it enhances usability.
I rarely use the spen but there's no substitute when I need it.
Smart Select is great.
It's write on jpeg feature is fast and easy.
It's remote shutter release is very useful.
No SD card means you're boned when doing a factory reset especially if you have a large data base. It makes reloads needlessly awkward and time consuming at best.
It would take hours to reload my data base alone.
These phones now support 1tb cards, a Lexar .5 tb V30 cards are $65 now. An SD card slot is a no brainer if you use it as intended, as a data drive with a fast, high capacity SD card.
By storing copies of your apps and updates on the card you no longer need Playstore to load them after a reset. That saves time and ensures you get exactly the apps and version you want.

Misterxtc said:
I traded in a rooted Note 20 Ultra for a stock S21 Ultra about three months ago and have zero regrets. I'm not a fan of the case selection for the Note series and don't care for the sharp corners or pen.
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What was your experience with your rooted Note 20 Ultra? I just purchased a used Note 20 Ultra on eBay today and hope the bootloader is unlockable to possibly root. I use a rooted Note 8 running Oreo right now and, with the way I configured it, is an awesome phone. However, the processor sucks DragonBalls. Are there good rooted features on the Note 20 as there were for the Note 8?

Well, just to clarify, I have decided to go with the S21 Ultra if I need to upgrade my phone as I prefer it over what I saw from the Note 20 Ultra and others.

keep in mind that the S21 Ultras are plagued with a camera service wakelock that drains the battery whenever motion is detected so expect a drain if you will be moving a lot with the phone in your pocket. Still no fix from samsung but some custom ROMs have sort of addressed the issue to some extent.

shaolin95 said:
Well, just to clarify, I have decided to go with the S21 Ultra if I need to upgrade my phone as I prefer it over what I saw from the Note 20 Ultra and others.
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No buy one get one free on the Ultra, only the S21 base model with T-mobile's promotion.

varcor said:
No buy one get one free on the Ultra, only the S21 base model with T-mobile's promotion.
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I am Buying the Ultra and getting the regular one free for my wife.

shaolin95 said:
I am Buying the Ultra and getting the regular one free for my wife.
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Get a good case before you start carry it around. These phones wuv to corner hit and face plant... do not use without a case.

blackhawk said:
Get a good case before you start carry it around. These phones wuv to corner hit and face plant... do not use without a case.
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Yep always order cases and tempered glass for front and cameras for my phones
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Go for it amigo. You'll be happy.

I have had my s21 ultra 5g four 6 months now and I am extremely happy with it. I have the big boy 16 gigs mem and 512 gigs storage. I've had no prob with it.

i like it. i'm on att but I am running into possibly a bug or a problem with one or 2 of my apps where notifications from the app will wake the screen whether or not you have accidental touch protection on. super frustrating on that front but otherwise it's a solid phone in general.

shaolin95 said:
Hello,
So as ATT plans to kill my Huawei Mate 20 x I am forced to change phones and well, there is really nothing big in the market aside from the fold 2 which I did not love.
So, I am considering the S21 Ultra at least to get a nice set of cameras with this forced upgrade.
How are you guys liking the phone...any recent feedback based on new firmware upgrades is welcome
Thanks
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Love it, came from an Asus ROG Phone 2.

paul_cherma said:
keep in mind that the S21 Ultras are plagued with a camera service wakelock that drains the battery whenever motion is detected so expect a drain if you will be moving a lot with the phone in your pocket. Still no fix from samsung but some custom ROMs have sort of addressed the issue to some extent.
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Wait what ??? Got any links with more details about this ?

techbrutha said:
What was your experience with your rooted Note 20 Ultra? I just purchased a used Note 20 Ultra on eBay today and hope the bootloader is unlockable to possibly root. I use a rooted Note 8 running Oreo right now and, with the way I configured it, is an awesome phone. However, the processor sucks DragonBalls. Are there good rooted features on the Note 20 as there were for the Note 8?
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Sorry for the late response. The only thing I miss with a rooted Samsung phone is ad blocking options. Other than that having a borked phone that can't be updated properly is not appealing to me. I'll go to the Pixel line if I want root in the future but for now I'm content with my Ultra.

Question is this phone still the best bang for the buck in 2022

Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!

There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.

Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.

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There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input

no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..

Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.

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Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?

The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.

In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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1q3er5 said:
interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.

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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.

david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52

Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.

According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.

Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here

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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!

Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.

aleMarvel said:
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.

Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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maddler said:
And 80W charge.
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kouzelnik3 said:
Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.