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Hi all :victory:
Samsung announced today their new beast the Samsung Galaxy Note 9. What do you think about this new device ? Are you considering to buy it ? Upgrade from your current device ? Tell us :good:

i just received an email from samsung that i can preorder today, they said everyone else preorder start tomorrow.
hopefully i get it sooner than everyone.
i preordered Verzion version since i'm with Verizon prepaid.
i trade in my Note8 for 400$. that' a fair price, if you sell it yourself, you have to pay swappa fee, paypal fee, and shipping.
reason i want note9.
1. need something new to play with. haha
2. cpu and graphic is faster than note8
3. 128gb storage compare to 64gb on note8, but do i need it? i only used 30gb on my note8
4. bluetooth spen, hopefully i able to use it for selfie.
5. hopefully we can Quick Charge 4. qualcomm listed QC4.0, charge 15 minutes get 50% battery life !

I'm buying it for sure. Till the official announcement, I wasn't considering it based on strong rumors of still being equipped with QC 2.0 and my personal taste on the not-so-usefulness of the S-Pen. But then, I made my mind to get it ASAP due to,
1. 4000 mAh battery.(little disappointing that it's still QC 2.0 only). I'm not so happy with the S9+'s batterylife.
2. S-Pen is pretty "dope" this time around- it's a remote controller for the camera, it's a pen, it can control streaming services from 30 feet away, can control apps, it's customizable, gets charged under 1 minute using supercapacitors inside....
3. AI integration on camera.
4. Water-carbon cooling system to prevent overheating and AI based performance adjuster.
5. Plenty of of RAM and flash Storage.
....
**Pixel 3 xl was in my mind but then after trustworthy leaks showing its design, I felt "NO". , it should be the Note 9 worth taking.

Was going to preorder it, but the have only the blue one, and purple one available only, wanted the black one. Also you get a free AKG wireless noise canceling headphones.
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netnerd said:
5. hopefully we can Quick Charge 4. qualcomm listed QC4.0, charge 15 minutes get 50% battery life !
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Qualcomm SD 845 chipset supports QC 4.0 but Samsung capped it at QC 2.0. So, do not hope

I was excited for this phone but after reading it still only comes with Android 8.0 was enough for me to say PASS.

homegeek said:
I was excited for this phone but after reading it still only comes with Android 8.0 was enough for me to say PASS.
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What set features 8.1 has over 8.0 since that being the only reason you're not getting it?
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homegeek said:
I was excited for this phone but after reading it still only comes with Android 8.0 was enough for me to say PASS.
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Samsung experience have all features you need,you get even more than what Android P users are getting and will ever get even in Android 12 i think

In italy, we have to rent the 512gb/8gb ram for 45€ per month 24 months long with a first payment of 99€.
Waiting for firsts reviews to check battery.

shook187 said:
What set features 8.1 has over 8.0 since that being the only reason you're not getting it?
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I was expecting Android P
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Samsung experience have all features you need,you get even more than what Android P users are getting and will ever get even in Android 12 i think
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To me, if I am going to pay upwards of $1000 for a phone then it should be Flagship. To me that means the most up to date hardware and software. At least Android 8.1 would be acceptable but 8.0 just means that put a nice paint job on an old house.

I actually didnt want to get it, but my Note 5 is getting older and battery is not holding a long charge.
Plus Tmo can give me $500 for this old phone. I think I am going to pull the trigger.

Likely ill get it, not thrilled with the color choices...copper is the only one Id consider but i def need to see it in person.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

netnerd said:
i just received an email from samsung that i can preorder today, they said everyone else preorder start tomorrow.
hopefully i get it sooner than everyone.
i preordered Verzion version since i'm with Verizon prepaid.
i trade in my Note8 for 400$. that' a fair price, if you sell it yourself, you have to pay swappa fee, paypal fee, and shipping.
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reason i want note9.
1. need something new to play with. haha
2. cpu and graphic is faster than note8
3. 128gb storage compare to 64gb on note8, but do i need it? i only used 30gb on my note8
4. bluetooth spen, hopefully i able to use it for selfie.
5. hopefully we can Quick Charge 4. qualcomm listed QC4.0, charge 15 minutes get 50% battery life !
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I've found the more memory I have available, the more I'll use so 128 Gb may suit you well. Quick Charge is 2.0 for the Note 9 which is a bit disappointing but not a deal killer. I turned down Samsung's $400 trade in offer and sold my S8+ for a $100 more on a local Craigslist post., no fees or shipping required. Personally I feel the S9 Plus makes more sense unless you really use S Pen. The devices are very similar in hardware besides the bigger battery on Note 9, display size is very close but the big difference is price. New Note 9 - $1,000, New S9 Plus (128 Gb) - $664 for the device on ebay.

Just pre-ordered unlocked 128 gb from Samsung. Bought a lg g6 on swappa for $160 to get the $300 trade in. I'm ready!

I pre ordered mine. Blue with 8 gigs and the 512 memory. I bought an S7 active on eBay for a $100 and will trade it in for $300. Just sold note 8 for over $500. Bought Whitestone Dome glass and S View case. Hurry up August 24th!!

droidrev71 said:
I pre ordered mine. Blue with 8 gigs and the 512 memory. I bought an S7 active on eBay for a $100 and will trade it in for $300. Just sold note 8 for over $500. Bought Whitestone Dome glass and S View case. Hurry up August 24th!!
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I'm doing something similar! Buying the S7 for $130(ish) and trading in for $500 through T-mobile! Where did you snag one for only $100?? I can't seem to beat $130.
I'm getting the $999 Note9 (Blue). Can't wait! I adore my Note 8 and the only thing that I wish was better was the battery life, so this phone should be PERFECT!

Nice pre-order deal here in Australia, on samsung’s site: 512GB model for the price of the 128 GB model, A$1499.
And samsung will give me a very good trade in of A$785 for my 10 months old pixel 2 XL. That’s about what I could get on ebay, but without the hassle.
Ordered!

PsiPhiDan said:
I'm doing something similar! Buying the S7 for $130(ish) and trading in for $500 through T-mobile! Where did you snag one for only $100?? I can't seem to beat $130.
I'm getting the $999 Note9 (Blue). Can't wait! I adore my Note 8 and the only thing that I wish was better was the battery life, so this phone should be PERFECT!
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Bought one with "shadows” . There are even cheaper ones with the green line running down the screen.
My seller is out of NY

Bought 128gb Blue, ugh I wanted black. Got the unlocked version 400 dollars off thanks to an S8 sitting in a drawer. Wife gets to dump her LG V20 and get my Note 8 and I get the 9 for 640 bucks with tax. Win win.

Got mine ordered last night!

Is it really worth the price?

Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?

I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.

Not for me. I got a s8 and can get a great deal on note 8

avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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exactly! Also very happy with my oneplus 6 here

I think it's too expensive as well. Happy with my XZ2.

I think looking at the s9 plus or the lg g7 both have the same specs and are around 500 dollars now so yes it is very expensive for the premium to have the stylus.

Everyone is on here complaining about the price but honestly the note has always been the more expensive device. The Note 8 was $990 when it came out and the S9 Plus was $930. I mean the higher the memory and higher the ram yes its going to get more expensive just like everything when you get a upgraded model. If you don't like the price go with the base model. It's pretty simple or just dont get it period.

or, get a note 8, for a ton less, and almost identical features...

if you have the note 8 it isn't worth it , if you have s8 plus you might want to due to dual cameras you missed last year. I don't think its worth it right now 1000$ is a bit too much.
Specially when the s9+ can do the same thing as this phone besides the pen and the note 8 already has 90% of s pen features (except for useless pen remote thingy).
The only encouraging upgrade is the battery [but we haven't seen battery drain tests comparison yet]. The storage is not encouraging why? most of us have 128 GB SD Cards in our pockets and 512 GB SD Cards are expensive.
Make no mistake its a great phone but its only worth it if you use the pen and if you find the s9+ or note 8 battery capacity not enough for you , other wise the s9+ or the note 8 (depending if you want to shoot 4k 60 fps or 1080p 60 fps for 60 fps videos) is pretty good and almost has the same Camera features [Even in low light they are VERY close with all 3 of them having dual cameras and the amazing live focus features].
Personally I rather wait 1 year for price cuts [considering you have either note 8 / s9+].
I bought my Note 8 new for 600$ because I couldn't justify 950$. Now Note 8 is 600$ , I would wait until the price goes down.

Definitely worth it.

just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera

ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland

avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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Everything is expensive in Switzerland! Ive been there a bunch of times and the fordt time was shocked at the cost of things.
I still love it there though, beautiful country.
But for me totally worth every penny, all $1500 of them
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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Yeaaa I understand that. But for the same specs almost u could get an note 8 or s9+

netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
better camera
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do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera
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Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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the s9 has been a flop sales figures wise though....I seriously suspect N9 price will plunge in October / pre xmas sales and competition with Apple X11 or Huawei. Samsung are loosing ground and I don't believe this does anything to stop that....

My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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Agreed.
Why buy the same phone as last year but with a wireless s pen that takes shots. I am still waiting for samsung to update their selfie camera to be as good as the back.
Also you are right about the argument "cuz cpu will be faster yeaa cuz its a car not a smartphone that goes 1 milisecond faster in opening Apps than past year"
Since when did Note 8 lag. And if Clock speed is the argument then you will just upgrade every 6 month due to fastest processor and waste your money
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knight900 said:
My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
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Good for you. Bad for every body else specially the uk.

bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
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i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.

netnerd said:
i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.
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Invalid argument. Did you know the note 9 has lower ppi than the note 8 with the same screen resolution. Will that stop you from buying Note 9?
Oh and the s10 will be 2 miliseconds faster,will you buy it too?
The speed you won't notice unless you compare them side by side. In your daily tasks you won't just say "Hm i saved 2 miliseconds." Again unless this is a racing car,this is not a valid argument.
Beside the fact nore 9 and note 8 software is the same.
And 0.1 increase in screen size and lower ppi.

Isn't 4G LTE good enough? Fast enough ?
I wonder why wireless carriers throwing million$ and million$ to build 5G networks

Question Where to buy Snapdragon variant, ship to Europe?

Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?

You'll loose your warranty. Given the hardware issues this model is having that could get expensive sooner then latter...
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The 5G may turn out to be more trouble than it's worth.
It's also running on Android 11 which is less than user friendly. Problems with the display. No SD card slot. No Spen.
A month agoI was looking at the N20U Snapdragon and the N10+ of which I already have one.
The 10+ has better color rendering, zero display issues than the 20U and the 21U but no variable refresh rate.
In the end I opted for a new 10+/Snapdragon running on Q for $800. It runs great... no regrets. My older 10+ is 2 years old, it looks and runs like new. One replacement battery on this heavily used device.
Current OS load is over 1.5 years old still fast and stable. In my opinion the 10+ was Samsung's last great flagship in terms of quality, usability and reliability... it's no accident that I own two.

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Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?
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Thx for the opinion m8

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Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?
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Of the three SM-G9980 Variants the Hong Kong device is most likely to be compatible with 5G in Portugal. Some claim the Taiwan Variant (BRI) is identical to the Hong Kong Variant (TGY) but I don't believe that's the case. Stay away from the China Variant (CHC), it's lacking in a number of areas. Where you buy it will depend on how much internal storage you need and whether you want a new or used device. If you need a new 512GB model the best option are handful of Hong Kong Retailers. You will still have the warranty but the retailer in Hong Kong will need to process a claim. You can find them on eBay and they ship worldwide so your location isn't an issue.

blackhawk said:
You'll loose your warranty. Given the hardware issues this model is having that could get expensive sooner then latter...
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The 5G may turn out to be more trouble than it's worth.
It's also running on Android 11 which is less than user friendly. Problems with the display. No SD card slot. No Spen.
A month agoI was looking at the N20U Snapdragon and the N10+ of which I already have one.
The 10+ has better color rendering, zero display issues than the 20U and the 21U but no variable refresh rate.
In the end I opted for a new 10+/Snapdragon running on Q for $800. It runs great... no regrets. My older 10+ is 2 years old, it looks and runs like new. One replacement battery on this heavily used device.
Current OS load is over 1.5 years old still fast and stable. In my opinion the 10+ was Samsung's last great flagship in terms of quality, usability and reliability... it's no accident that I own two.
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I have the S10+ and an S21 Ultra. The S10+ is a nice option, it's smaller, lighter, has external memory and a 3.5 jack. Taken in total the S10+ is no match to the S21 Ultra, not even close. No hardware or display issues, it runs faster and smoother, much better cameras, better battery life and it charges much faster. You certainly like the S10+ better and that's fine but to suggest it's a better device than an S21 Ultra, sorry that's just not the case.

You'll lose warranty
Your software updates may not happen (was the case with UAE S9+ in UK at least)

5G = 180 Mbit / 25ms, 4G = 160 Mbit/35-40ms in my place. Given the fact 5G consumes far more energy I did switch it off. 160Mbit + 40ms is far above enough for everything I need. And +20Mbit does not compensate more consumption of battery. I do have bad experiences with Exynoses. Since Note3, they are really bad. The newest one is not far better. It is hot as hell, battery life is not as good as in Huawei. But ... new Snapdragon is also bad It does not worth to lose warranty protection for S21 Ultra and buying more expensive one from HK/US. Previous generation was different. Snapdragon was far better. Now processors are almost equal (except Snap is not that much hot). So - go for Exynos with warranty

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Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?
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on Wonda mobile. The G9980 in italy works perfectly

Question Larger capacity Ultras faster? 128GB benchmark included.

Hi all,
I'm trying to find out if there is a performance difference when it comes to storage between the 128gb and higher spec ultras. As I understand it, bigger SSD devices are generally faster.
I ran benchmark against a 128gb model (linked below.) Can someone with a 256 or 512 model post their results?
many thanks in advance!
My Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G (SDM888) scored 27292 in the PCMark Storage 2.0 Android benchmark test. http://bit.ly/pcmark-android
Passmark storage test was around 78,000 I believe.

256GB Exynos model (SM-G998B) so maybe not comparable, but: I got PC Mark 2.0 storage test = 30329.

korsnick said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to find out if there is a performance difference when it comes to storage between the 128gb and higher spec ultras. As I understand it, bigger SSD devices are generally faster.
I ran benchmark against a 128gb model (linked below.) Can someone with a 256 or 512 model post their results?
many thanks in advance!
My Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G (SDM888) scored 27292 in the PCMark Storage 2.0 Android benchmark test. http://bit.ly/pcmark-android
Passmark storage test was around 78,000 I believe.
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This used to be the case for SDDs many moons ago (I haven't checked lately TBH). I would not be surprised to find better performance in higher capacity, I think it mostly has to do with optimized cell access.

Thanks for the feedback y'all! Looking around today I can only find 512GB international models so this may be a moot point.
I had a 512GB ordered from Samsung a few weeks ago when you could still get them on their website, but I cancelled the order thinking the price might come down when the S22 is announced. Just couldn't justify paying full price for last years tech.
T-Mobile still wants $1200 for a 128gb model, so I'm thinking I'll just wait for the 22.

The 22 looks to be an evolutionary upgrade with not much new over the S21 Ultra....smart money is on the discounted S21 since they appear to be virtually the same minus an S pen

DS1000RR said:
The 22 looks to be an evolutionary upgrade with not much new over the S21 Ultra....smart money is on the discounted S21 since they appear to be virtually the same minus an S pen
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I'm cool with grabbing a 21- problem is where to find one that's discounted let alone a 512.

25822 with 512 GB snapdragon version.

korsnick said:
Thanks for the feedback y'all! Looking around today I can only find 512GB international models so this may be a moot point.
I had a 512GB ordered from Samsung a few weeks ago when you could still get them on their website, but I cancelled the order thinking the price might come down when the S22 is announced. Just couldn't justify paying full price for last years tech.
T-Mobile still wants $1200 for a 128gb model, so I'm thinking I'll just wait for the 22.
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I would purchase the S21 Ultra for a few reasons. First being Android 12 is a disaster, it's still nowhere near stable. The new Exynos SoC for the S22 is having serious production issues, only a handful of chipsets are usable from an entire wafer. The S22 Ultra will cost more money but few feature upgrades. The S-Pen (which works on an S21), a bit of a camera tweek, faster charging and new colors. Samsung needs help, it's no longer a great value.

S21 256 GB - 25000.

Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G (Exynos 2100) here.
Storage 2.0 score: 25261

maslinar said:
25822 with 512 GB snapdragon version.
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Wow I'm surprised it's less than the 128GB! Perhaps it's because it's filled up more, whereas the phone I tested on was brand new.

varcor said:
I would purchase the S21 Ultra for a few reasons. First being Android 12 is a disaster, it's still nowhere near stable. The new Exynos SoC for the S22 is having serious production issues, only a handful of chipsets are usable from an entire wafer. The S22 Ultra will cost more money but few feature upgrades. The S-Pen (which works on an S21), a bit of a camera tweek, faster charging and new colors. Samsung needs help, it's no longer a great value.
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Well I found one place selling the US 512GB version for $1700 on ebay, but that's the cheapest I could find. Might have to just cave in and get the 128GB from TMO for $1200.

More googling revealed that the RAM in the 16GB model is probably also faster.
"At 6,400 megabits per second (Mb/s), the new LPDDR5 is about 16 percent faster than the 12Gb LPDDR5 (5,500Mb/s) found in most of today’s flagship mobile devices. When made into a 16GB package, the LPDDR5 can transfer about 10 5GB-sized full-HD movies, or 51.2GB of data, in one second."
From: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...dr5-dram-at-worlds-largest-semiconductor-line

The test is probably not reliable then.

I redid the passmark test and here's what I got for disk and memory on the 128GB:
Disk: 74,902
Memory: 31,918

korsnick said:
Well I found one place selling the US 512GB version for $1700 on ebay, but that's the cheapest I could find. Might have to just cave in and get the 128GB from TMO for $1200.
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You can buy the 512GB Snapdragon variant for $1,349.00. I'll PM you a couple of links. Internal Storage doesn't really change speed of a device, not to a degree where you'll see a big difference.

varcor said:
You can buy the 512GB Snapdragon variant for $1,349.00. I'll PM you a couple of links. Internal Storage doesn't really change speed of a device, not to a degree where you'll see a big difference.
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Thank you!

Exynos model, 256Gb.
Haven't tweaked anything, just installed and ran the test.

Cleared apps, and put the phone in max performance mode :

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Cleared apps, and put the phone in max performance mode :
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Oh wow! that's a sizeable difference!

Question is this phone still the best bang for the buck in 2022

Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!

There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.

Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.

tag68 said:
There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input

no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..

Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?

The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.

In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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1q3er5 said:
interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.

Marvin.the.Martian said:
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.

david003 said:
Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.

david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52

Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.

According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.

Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here

david003 said:
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
david003 said:
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!

Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.

aleMarvel said:
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.

Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times