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SD855 is much better than the Exynos 9820 :(

check the below performance comparison ,
i really want this phone after so much time i was away from samsung , but as now i have iphone X i don't want a laggy or stuttery phone ,
when you see this video , the exynos is not only slower but even stuttry when switching between tests than the SD855 , it makes me want to got to the MI9 from xiaomi only for the cpu
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg
i wish the exynos was at least on par with the 855 in performance

c'mon don't believe everything, wait for more elaborated cpu reviews... this Gary not seems to be a real expert

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14031/samsung-galaxy-s10-first-exynos-9820-vs-snapdragon-855-scores
Yes, snapdragon is way better, pity

Mohamad Gahed said:
check the below performance comparison ,
i really want this phone after so much time i was away from samsung , but as now i have iphone X i don't want a laggy or stuttery phone ,
when you see this video , the exynos is not only slower but even stuttry when switching between tests than the SD855 , it makes me want to got to the MI9 from xiaomi only for the cpu
https://youtu.be/MgRnbm9wrzg
i wish the exynos was at least on par with the 855 in performance
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Besides having more Custom ROM options I don't know of any other advantages the Exynos Chipset has over the Spapdragon variant. As far as lagging, since the S9 it's not an issue and with UI/Android 9 Update it's as smooth and faster than than anything iPhone offers. The CPU in the S10 is the same as the Xiaomi so you'll get a lesser smartphone at a lower price.

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Besides having more Custom ROM options I don't know of any other advantages the Exynos Chipset has over the Spapdragon variant. As far as lagging, since the S9 it's not an issue and with UI/Android 9 Update it's as smooth and faster than than anything iPhone offers. The CPU in the S10 is the same as the Xiaomi so you'll get a lesser smartphone at a lower price.
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i mentioned xiaomi as it have the SD855 vs the Exynos in the s10 , as in my country we only have the exynos with samsung we don't get the SD ,
also i need to ask you about your statment about the s9 and the one UI update , are you talking about the exynos version or the SD 845 version?am interested to know if the 9810 also after the update is good in speed and not laggy or something as old samsungs specially after a while of use.

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i mentioned xiaomi as it have the SD855 vs the Exynos in the s10 , as in my country we only have the exynos with samsung we don't get the SD ,
also i need to ask you about your statment about the s9 and the one UI update , are you talking about the exynos version or the SD 845 version?am interested to know if the 9810 also after the update is good in speed and not laggy or something as old samsungs specially after a while of use.
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No, it's an SM-G9650, Snapdragon 845, Hong Kong, I won't consider a Exynos variant when I can get a Snapdragon variant, bootloader unlocked especially with the new SD 855 which is faster, no overheating, battery drain or carrier compatibility concerns. Not to mention the Snapdragon variant is much better optimized for AI and 5G.

Mmmmm, disappointing to say the least.
I have just cancelled my pre-order of the S10 from Sammy UK. I'm not happy spending £799.
Decided to order the U.S Version from Amazon. Not fussed with rooting this device, as I have other phones to play with.

johnny8910 said:
Mmmmm, disappointing to say the least.
I have just cancelled my pre-order of the S10 from Sammy UK. I'm not happy spending £799 on a phone with a chip set that is last year.
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LOL, too funny, last year was 8 weeks ago! Almost all flagship android devices are using the SD 855. With the exceptions of iPhone A12, Exynos 9820 and Huawei's Kirin 980, all of which are older than the SD 855!

Slight overreaction but as someone who has the 10+ pre-ordered in the UK I do feel short-changed. If I could get the SD55 model in the UK I would.
If there is a significant difference between the two though this is not good for Samsung. Especially as we pay more in the UK for the privilege.

From what I have seen the Exynos single core is double that of the Snapdragon, and only falls a little short in mulyicore performance. But there are pros and cons to both chipsets.
However I do like the Snapdragon 855, and would be more uniform if Samsung just shipped all units with that chipset.

It's funny, you guys that aren't in North America want the SD 855 and a lot of us here in the USA want the Exynos 9820!
Personally, I ordered an Exynos variant and am receiving it March 4th. It seems as if there are a lot of issues with the Exynos version in terms of LTE bands as well, as the version I ordered is likely the SEA region that lacks specific bands that I want. But then again.. that prism green looks gorgeous and is a pretty big reason why I ordered it. I'm inclined to return it though, and trade in my old S8+ through Samsung since they're offering a decent amount for it. We'll see!

You guys are too picky. There is nothing wrong with Exynos 9820 version. It's amazingly fast with amazing battery life. Synthetic benchmarks mean almost nothing!
Real life speed test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uru9AnkgzHc
Real life battery test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgqinnFGqmQ

I ordered the Snapdragon version because its what Tmo US sells. I'm not a huge phone gamer, but I haven't found speed to be a factor on a modern flagship phone in years. I'm much more worried about battery life and overall features. Speed at this point is pretty much the least of my concerns. The only thing actually tying my to Samsung anymore is secure folder, another company REALLY needs to create a competitor. ( did order S10+)

I am interested in whichever one is better at battery life. If Samsung would put a midrange chipset with that camera in that shell, I would buy it I am inclined to believe that the 7nm Snapdragon will be better than the 8nm Exynos, but there were occasions (Galaxy S7/Edge) when the Exynos version was vastly superior in battery life. I would really want to see a battery life comparison between SD855 and Exynos 9820 in order to decide if importing from the US to Europe at a higher price is actually worth it.

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I am interested in whichever one is better at battery life. If Samsung would put a midrange chipset with that camera in that shell, I would buy it I am inclined to believe that the 7nm Snapdragon will be better than the 8nm Exynos, but there were occasions (Galaxy S7/Edge) when the Exynos version was vastly superior in battery life. I would really want to see a battery life comparison between SD855 and Exynos 9820 in order to decide if importing from the US to Europe at a higher price is actually worth it.
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Exactly what I would say. Waiting on a battery comparison as well.
Benchmarks are not that important. I tend to set all my phones on a battery friendly setting since years.
Preordered the exynos s10, but in the end its the only option really in Europe. If battery is better then I can miss out on the speed. But i agree on some of the opinions that charging the same money on so vastly different phones when there is such a big difference in the chipsets is wrong.
But I would say we have to wait for the release, as the demo and preproduction units are not with final software.
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the snapdragon version when it comes out? on ebay I only saw the exynos version.

After 7 years of iPhone I'm planning to switch to android.
The problem is that the snapdragon version has the bootloader locked... and I don't know exactly in which way
I'm living in Mexico so we get the SD855 but we also have the exynos on Amazon.
SD855 is way better (battery, heating, speed) but can I at least root the device? Will be there few custom roms? I'm switching from iPhone cos I got tired and bored. But i dont want a device that locks me again...
On the other hand, the exynos comes with no warranty, heating issues, battery, etc. But it comes in dual SIM and green and flawless rooting/ custom roms
In the first year I don't plan to root/ change the ROM, but after a year I might want to do it and the most frustrating thing would be the impossibility due to locked bootloader.
Gosh just saw my signature )) I haven't been here for a loooong time haha

LEX404 said:
After 7 years of iPhone I'm planning to switch to android.
The problem is that the snapdragon version has the bootloader locked... and I don't know exactly in which way
I'm living in Mexico so we get the SD855 but we also have the exynos on Amazon.
SD855 is way better (battery, heating, speed) but can I at least root the device? Will be there few custom roms? I'm switching from iPhone cos I got tired and bored. But i dont want a device that locks me again...
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The SD models will come locked, and will stay that way unless a vulnerability is found, the same applies to root. No ETA on either of the two. But honestly don't expect the bootloader to become unlocked in the SD variant.

So the only chance is exynos from Amazon or if I can get SD from Hong Kong (probably not)
That's so unfair

LEX404 said:
So the only chance is exynos from Amazon or if I can get SD from Hong Kong (probably not)
That's so unfair
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Well, what's your preference?
Do you want bootloader unlocked, root or both?
If all you really want is root AND you were going to wait about a year anyway, then the SD model may be just fine.
If you want your bootloader unlocked then Exynos for sure.

S20FE or Mi 10T Pro?

As the title says, i'm looking to get a new Phone and can't really decide.
I'm getting the non-5G version in Germany, so for the S20, Exynos it is. I have the S10e now and never had major issues with that Exynos, so it's not really a downside for me.
I've had Xiaomi phones in the past and neither MIUI nor OneUI bother me.
It basically comes down to: I've had better luck with unlocking xiaomi phones (and this still seems to be true now), but the Samsung offers AMOLED. Both are high refreshrate. I don't care for cameras too much.
The xiaomi will be marginally cheaper (not by much). I just need a large phone to replace my S10e now and it really seems to be a toss up in this case. What would you choose? Maybe had experience with either of the phones?

domsch1988 said:
As the title says, i'm looking to get a new Phone and can't really decide.
I'm getting the non-5G version in Germany, so for the S20, Exynos it is. I have the S10e now and never had major issues with that Exynos, so it's not really a downside for me.
I've had Xiaomi phones in the past and neither MIUI nor OneUI bother me.
It basically comes down to: I've had better luck with unlocking xiaomi phones (and this still seems to be true now), but the Samsung offers AMOLED. Both are high refreshrate. I don't care for cameras too much.
The xiaomi will be marginally cheaper (not by much). I just need a large phone to replace my S10e now and it really seems to be a toss up in this case. What would you choose? Maybe had experience with either of the phones?
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You basically answered your question. If you don't mind too much about exynos and the difference in price is minimal, pick the S20 FE. You'll have the AMOLED and some extras like, IP68, Samsung PAY, DEX, and others.

Rick_BR said:
You basically answered your question. If you don't mind too much about exynos and the difference in price is minimal, pick the S20 FE. You'll have the AMOLED and some extras like, IP68, Samsung PAY, DEX, and others.
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Yeah wasn't sure how big the Exynos "penalty" was this generation. Seems Standby drain is higher from what i gathered. You're probably right as the screen is the most important thing on a phone. Since we're charging every day anyways...
I liked that the Mi10T is a bit bigger but i guess that's only noticable in direct comparison.

People really overestimate online on how much the exynos is behind of snapdragon. By notebookcheck's benches, it's barely -10% slower, but people also forget the 5G SD version is up to 150€ more expensive in some places, so you end up paying over 20% more for 10% performance.

General Antutu Results S21 Ultra

Killing it in a useless benchmark, but 100K ahead of my Note 20 Ultra

aaronc_98 said:
Killing it in a useless benchmark, but 100K ahead of my Note 20 Ultra
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Snap or exynos? this year exynos finally abit better in CPU performance. but sadly snapdragon 888 still better by far in GPU department , untill AMD cpu RDNA next year. im barely gaming on my phone anymore so my exynos its ok for me

Superrman said:
Snap or exynos? this year exynos finally abit better in CPU performance. but sadly snapdragon 888 still better by far in GPU department , untill AMD cpu RDNA next year. im barely gaming on my phone anymore so my exynos its ok for me
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Snapdragon

As a Scandinavian, it is nice to hear that Samsung's Exynos is finally on par with Snapdragon, because those Exynos models are sold here in Scandinavia.

I don't give a whole lot for the Benchmark tests - but it is fun to see how well your phone does - very impressed with the scores I have seen on Snapdragon S21 Ultras....

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As a Scandinavian, it is nice to hear that Samsung's Exynos is finally on par with Snapdragon, because those Exynos models are sold here in Scandinavia.
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I am from Sweden, i had Exynos models of Samsung all the time until the last year's S20 Ultra, i went for the Snapdragon 865 model imported from Hong Kong because of the chip itself. The Exynos 990 was bad in every point, bad CPU, bad GPU, bad battery life, too much heating, too much throttling, so now with the new Exynos 2100 i can see Samsung is back on track even though the Snapdragon 888 still a little bit better but that difference is not an issue for the majority of end-users, they will never pay attention for these stuff so i am also happy for that and that's why decided this time to go for S21 Ultra Exynos 2100 for many reasons, see them below:
1. The Exynos 2100 supports ALL frequencies, band combinations unlike the Snapdragon model from HK, it is limited, so actually, if i want a good coverage and full modem support, i have to choose the model customised with the Swedish networks.
2. The Android phones sold in Sweden has 2 years of warranty, also 3 years of returns right if we prove the phone has manufacturing issue! In this case for example i returned back an S20+ with Exynos 990 and i claimed it was a very bad chip when comparing to Snapdragon!! This is after i used the phone for 8 months lol.
3. If the phone gets issues, it's very easy to send it to a service center for fix (for free). With imported Snapdragon model, i need to send it back to HK, which costs me around 50-60 € in DHL postage fee, also it has only 1 year warranty by the store, not by Samsung itself.
4. If the phone gets broken or stolen, my home insurance company compensate me well with the Swedish model and much less with the imported Snapdragon one..
So many aspects to choose a phone in Sweden, i guess it's almost the same elsewhere in Europe.

Question Verizon S21 Ultra 512GB Sold Out everywhere

Trying to buy the Verizon S21 Ultra 512GB and it seems to be sold out everywhere,
Will these become available again soon on the Verizon site?

That's a Verizon Q.
Useless you need to replace now, waiting until the next model release might give you better options or a better price/deal on the 512 gb variant.
I'm not buying any of Samsung's latest offerings.
Between the hardware and Android 11 I'm not impressed. Still happy with my Note 10+ running fast, stable and functional on Pie.

Come on guys - enough of that -

It seems to be in stock stateside...
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No SD card support and another massive cam hump. Lame rounded display corners. No intergrated Spen with a huge price tag.
Maybe the best cam yet and intergrated 5G -may- mean it's not a battery hog like the 1st generation 5G.
5G performance is spotty at best and typical bandwidth increases are reportedly only 20%.
Fastest processor yet and fast memory but the OS is using scope storage which does eat up CPU/ram cycles for nothing.
It be a downgrade from my 10+ because of no SD card, Android's scope storage, its ugly form factor with no native spen which makes it a case nightmare. It's faster processor/ram/memory are nulled somewhat by the scope storage especially with office apps.
Not near good enough in my opinion especially at this price tag and lack of key features.
If I was the OP I would wait to see what unfolds.
The best models tend to be released near the end of the year.
At this point if I needed to replace my 10+ non 5G variant, I would go with the same model running on Pie.
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In other words I'm not impressed...
Sammy dropped the ball, again.

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General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

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In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.
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kouzelnik3 said:
Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.