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Is it really worth the price?

Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?

I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.

Not for me. I got a s8 and can get a great deal on note 8

avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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exactly! Also very happy with my oneplus 6 here

I think it's too expensive as well. Happy with my XZ2.

I think looking at the s9 plus or the lg g7 both have the same specs and are around 500 dollars now so yes it is very expensive for the premium to have the stylus.

Everyone is on here complaining about the price but honestly the note has always been the more expensive device. The Note 8 was $990 when it came out and the S9 Plus was $930. I mean the higher the memory and higher the ram yes its going to get more expensive just like everything when you get a upgraded model. If you don't like the price go with the base model. It's pretty simple or just dont get it period.

or, get a note 8, for a ton less, and almost identical features...

if you have the note 8 it isn't worth it , if you have s8 plus you might want to due to dual cameras you missed last year. I don't think its worth it right now 1000$ is a bit too much.
Specially when the s9+ can do the same thing as this phone besides the pen and the note 8 already has 90% of s pen features (except for useless pen remote thingy).
The only encouraging upgrade is the battery [but we haven't seen battery drain tests comparison yet]. The storage is not encouraging why? most of us have 128 GB SD Cards in our pockets and 512 GB SD Cards are expensive.
Make no mistake its a great phone but its only worth it if you use the pen and if you find the s9+ or note 8 battery capacity not enough for you , other wise the s9+ or the note 8 (depending if you want to shoot 4k 60 fps or 1080p 60 fps for 60 fps videos) is pretty good and almost has the same Camera features [Even in low light they are VERY close with all 3 of them having dual cameras and the amazing live focus features].
Personally I rather wait 1 year for price cuts [considering you have either note 8 / s9+].
I bought my Note 8 new for 600$ because I couldn't justify 950$. Now Note 8 is 600$ , I would wait until the price goes down.

Definitely worth it.

just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera

ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland

avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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Everything is expensive in Switzerland! Ive been there a bunch of times and the fordt time was shocked at the cost of things.
I still love it there though, beautiful country.
But for me totally worth every penny, all $1500 of them
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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Yeaaa I understand that. But for the same specs almost u could get an note 8 or s9+

netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
better camera
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do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera
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Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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the s9 has been a flop sales figures wise though....I seriously suspect N9 price will plunge in October / pre xmas sales and competition with Apple X11 or Huawei. Samsung are loosing ground and I don't believe this does anything to stop that....

My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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Agreed.
Why buy the same phone as last year but with a wireless s pen that takes shots. I am still waiting for samsung to update their selfie camera to be as good as the back.
Also you are right about the argument "cuz cpu will be faster yeaa cuz its a car not a smartphone that goes 1 milisecond faster in opening Apps than past year"
Since when did Note 8 lag. And if Clock speed is the argument then you will just upgrade every 6 month due to fastest processor and waste your money
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knight900 said:
My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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Good for you. Bad for every body else specially the uk.

bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
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i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.

netnerd said:
i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.
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Invalid argument. Did you know the note 9 has lower ppi than the note 8 with the same screen resolution. Will that stop you from buying Note 9?
Oh and the s10 will be 2 miliseconds faster,will you buy it too?
The speed you won't notice unless you compare them side by side. In your daily tasks you won't just say "Hm i saved 2 miliseconds." Again unless this is a racing car,this is not a valid argument.
Beside the fact nore 9 and note 8 software is the same.
And 0.1 increase in screen size and lower ppi.

Isn't 4G LTE good enough? Fast enough ?
I wonder why wireless carriers throwing million$ and million$ to build 5G networks

Question Different seal queation

Hi guys I've just received my s21 ultra from sky mobile UK as I sent my other one back due to dust under the lenses to Samsung UK
But the one from sky I think is an import as the seal is different I'll post a pic
It's the first time I've had anything like that just asking if anyone else has had similar things and should it still function ect as a original UK veriant
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adamlee2012 said:
I got mine from Sky UK and didn't have this sticker on mine, but if it's the exynos version with UK firmware then it'll be exactly the same as mine.
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Yeh it's the exynos veriant and build date is 1st August 2021 just seems strange it's obviously been opened and I think they have changed a few things like the booklets ext as looks different to the one I got from Samsung UK website
I'm hoping it's not a refurb or anything like that lol

brockyneo said:
Yeh it's the exynos veriant and build date is 1st August 2021 just seems strange it's obviously been opened and I think they have changed a few things like the booklets ext as looks different to the one I got from Samsung UK website
I'm hoping it's not a refurb or anything like that lol
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Hi
You can use this app , it will tell you if the phone is a refurbish

MAX 404 said:
Hi
You can use this app , it will tell you if the phone is a refurbish
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Yeh comes up on the app as original to be fair the phone seems perfect just throw me off with a different seal and can tell the original ones have been broken
Been in touch with sky mobile and they assure me it's new and that it might be something to do with the whole Brexit thing thats gone on
Can I ask I had the s21 ultra off Samsung UK website which I got the 512gb 16gb version
I have the 256bg 12gb from sky as they didn't have the larger one is they no difference at all apart from the memory and ram? Are all the s21 ultras identical apart from this and obviously the exynos and snapdragon
Thanks

brockyneo said:
Yeh comes up on the app as original to be fair the phone seems perfect just throw me off with a different seal and can tell the original ones have been broken
Been in touch with sky mobile and they assure me it's new and that it might be something to do with the whole Brexit thing thats gone on
Can I ask I had the s21 ultra off Samsung UK website which I got the 512gb 16gb version
I have the 256bg 12gb from sky as they didn't have the larger one is they no difference at all apart from the memory and ram? Are all the s21 ultras identical apart from this and obviously the exynos and snapdragon
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Glad is an original
The Brexit , no way , I was expecting the covid excuse but not that one
Regarding your question about the differences
This are the memory / ram options
MEMORYCard slotNoInternal128GB 12GB RAM, 256GB 12GB RAM, 512GB 12GB RAM, 512GB 16GB RAM UFS 3.1
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MAX 404 said:
Glad is an original
The Brexit , no way , I was expecting the covid excuse but not that one
Regarding your question about the differences
This are the memory / ram options
MEMORYCard slotNoInternal128GB 12GB RAM, 256GB 12GB RAM, 512GB 12GB RAM, 512GB 16GB RAMUFS 3.1
Gsmarena
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Lol thanks for the reply so apart from the memory and soc differences there all identical because if so I'll proberly stay with the 256gb
Thanks

Question Where to buy Snapdragon variant, ship to Europe?

Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?

You'll loose your warranty. Given the hardware issues this model is having that could get expensive sooner then latter...
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The 5G may turn out to be more trouble than it's worth.
It's also running on Android 11 which is less than user friendly. Problems with the display. No SD card slot. No Spen.
A month agoI was looking at the N20U Snapdragon and the N10+ of which I already have one.
The 10+ has better color rendering, zero display issues than the 20U and the 21U but no variable refresh rate.
In the end I opted for a new 10+/Snapdragon running on Q for $800. It runs great... no regrets. My older 10+ is 2 years old, it looks and runs like new. One replacement battery on this heavily used device.
Current OS load is over 1.5 years old still fast and stable. In my opinion the 10+ was Samsung's last great flagship in terms of quality, usability and reliability... it's no accident that I own two.

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Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?
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Thx for the opinion m8

refedit said:
Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?
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Of the three SM-G9980 Variants the Hong Kong device is most likely to be compatible with 5G in Portugal. Some claim the Taiwan Variant (BRI) is identical to the Hong Kong Variant (TGY) but I don't believe that's the case. Stay away from the China Variant (CHC), it's lacking in a number of areas. Where you buy it will depend on how much internal storage you need and whether you want a new or used device. If you need a new 512GB model the best option are handful of Hong Kong Retailers. You will still have the warranty but the retailer in Hong Kong will need to process a claim. You can find them on eBay and they ship worldwide so your location isn't an issue.

blackhawk said:
You'll loose your warranty. Given the hardware issues this model is having that could get expensive sooner then latter...
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The 5G may turn out to be more trouble than it's worth.
It's also running on Android 11 which is less than user friendly. Problems with the display. No SD card slot. No Spen.
A month agoI was looking at the N20U Snapdragon and the N10+ of which I already have one.
The 10+ has better color rendering, zero display issues than the 20U and the 21U but no variable refresh rate.
In the end I opted for a new 10+/Snapdragon running on Q for $800. It runs great... no regrets. My older 10+ is 2 years old, it looks and runs like new. One replacement battery on this heavily used device.
Current OS load is over 1.5 years old still fast and stable. In my opinion the 10+ was Samsung's last great flagship in terms of quality, usability and reliability... it's no accident that I own two.
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I have the S10+ and an S21 Ultra. The S10+ is a nice option, it's smaller, lighter, has external memory and a 3.5 jack. Taken in total the S10+ is no match to the S21 Ultra, not even close. No hardware or display issues, it runs faster and smoother, much better cameras, better battery life and it charges much faster. You certainly like the S10+ better and that's fine but to suggest it's a better device than an S21 Ultra, sorry that's just not the case.

You'll lose warranty
Your software updates may not happen (was the case with UAE S9+ in UK at least)

5G = 180 Mbit / 25ms, 4G = 160 Mbit/35-40ms in my place. Given the fact 5G consumes far more energy I did switch it off. 160Mbit + 40ms is far above enough for everything I need. And +20Mbit does not compensate more consumption of battery. I do have bad experiences with Exynoses. Since Note3, they are really bad. The newest one is not far better. It is hot as hell, battery life is not as good as in Huawei. But ... new Snapdragon is also bad It does not worth to lose warranty protection for S21 Ultra and buying more expensive one from HK/US. Previous generation was different. Snapdragon was far better. Now processors are almost equal (except Snap is not that much hot). So - go for Exynos with warranty

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Hey guys, is there a legit online shop so I can buy the Snapdragon variant G9980 for example so it can work here in portugal with 5G?
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on Wonda mobile. The G9980 in italy works perfectly

Question Is it worth upgrading from S21 ultra to S22 Ultra

Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??

If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra
For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.

termdj said:
Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra??
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S22 ultra doesn't seem like a huge upgrade over the S21U. If an integrated S-Pen is an absolute must-have for you, then by all means get the new phone. But other than that, I don't see a compelling reason to buy one. The S21 Ultra is still an amazing phone even after a year. And honestly speaking, the design is so iconic, I would choose this over the S22U design anyday (based on all the leaks). But that is a highly subjective matter, so it's upto the buyer. If you can afford it and justify it, go for it. Life is short, do the things you enjoy

Not sure if it's worth but trying to beat the boredom of "life in the time of Covid" I went ahead with the reservation, aiming for the 'ultra'.
Hey, it's not a marriage - I can still send it back if I don't fall in love with it on the first sight.

I know the specs aren't that much better then the S21 ultra, but the s range has always been way cheaper in south africa then the note, so I would like to have the s pen, but it all depends on the price on contract

No, I won't be upgrading. First off there are very few improvements, nothing is innovative. Secondly there have been numerous problems in producing the Exynos/AMD SoC. Thirdly it will ship with Android 12 which to date is still plagued with numerous bugs. The S21 works much better on Android 11.

it happens to almost all phones.
i still own s10 plus, works perfectly
I also get the s21 ultra
tempteing to get s-pen th0

dezborders said:
If you REALLY miss the Note range with integral S-Pen slot then yes, maybe, and depending on price you can get selling your S21 Ultra
For all other reasons, NO the S22U is an S21U with an S-Pen slot and very few enhancements or upgrades over the 2021 models.
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Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!

In south africa there is no trade in deals... Just the normal carrier deals... So, hopefully it won't be too expensive

Tbh I don't think it worth upgrading to the S22 Ultra, it's got to the point now where any improvements are only minor even the camera on the S22 Ultra will only be slightly better than the S21 Ultra, plus i wouldn't be surprised once One UI 4.1 hits the S21 Ultra these improvements are brought down from the S22 Ultra.
I've had my S21 Ultra since last July this has been hands down best phone I've ever owned from Samsung, & i've had practically most of the S range & Note's over the years, the only downside to keeping the S21 Ultra really will be waiting slightly longer for updates once the S22 series has launched.
So I'm going to keep enjoying my S21 Ultra until the S23 Ultra next year.

Will see how it goes and what offers and trade ins are available. I have always been an S series user but loved the Spen support on the Ultra. It is a beast and having got the 512gb 16gb ram I could run it another year or so without any hiccups given that I haven't used it to its full pontential due to Covid.
Only thing I am worried with the S22 Ultra is the 45 Fast Charging and the Crammed 5000mah battery which although welcome I am afraid it might have those 'burst into flames' issues samsung had and how the new amd graphics might come with its own issues with Android 12.
No doubt it will have even a more Awesome battery life compared to the S21 Ultra and better Spen support with bluetooth and stuff. I am sure with the New Expert Raw and the Spen Bluetooth functionality they will promote it as a mobile Photographers Dream phone not to mention the ease of editing with the Spen.
Have my options open and will see how it pans out.

Wouldnt want to be a guinea pig for SD 8 Gen1. New and unproven soc.

For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo

Thanks for everybody given their input....

New camera sensor for even more light/detail
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous
Best screen on market with even more brightness
And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)
Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.

lywyn said:
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
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Samsung is generous with trade-in, plus if you resever now, you save 50!
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In the USA yes Samsung is ultra generous with trade-in. In UK not so much ...
Outside of US, ebay and FB Marketplace selling prices are much higher than trade in.

lywyn said:
New camera sensor for even more light/detail
New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available (plus fastest multicore)
S-Pen with higher latency and accuracy than previous
Best screen on market with even more brightness
And hopefully flat display instead of waterfall wasteful curved screen (fingers crossed on this)
Pls upgrade is free to me, so it's a 'hell yeah' from me.
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"New CPU with ray tracing and best GPU available"
Samsung has experienced numerous production issues with the Exynos 2200 SoC. Out of an entire wafer only a few chipsets are functional. Raytracing is misleading since there are currently no apps capable of raytracing integration on smartphones. In Geekbench 5 tests the Exynos/AMD 2200 was out performed not only by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 but the Snapdragon 888 also. There may be a few good reasons to buy an S22 but hoping for a better SoC isn't one of them.
Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888
Exynos 2200 is even weaker than the Snapdragon 888. The new flagship chipset Samsung lost to all competitors.
www.google.com.mx

TheInfiniteAndroid said:
For S21 Ultra users, the trade in deal needs to be great, otherwise it is not worth the upgrade, simple as that imo
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It will probably be enough for the lower end ripoff 8GB version IF they do a trade-in

termdj said:
Hi... Currently I have the S21 Ultra and really enjoy the phone. I always wanted a note, but due to pricing in my country, I couldn't afford a note on contract. I have seen the specs for S22 ultra and is quite excited with the prospect of getting a s pen with the S22 ultra built in. I wasn't convinced to get s pen separately in a case for the S21 ultra. Will you upgrade/ who is exc2for the release of the S22 ultra
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Here's how it's going to sound...you would have read all the views here and it's mostly a no to the upgrade. But, this thread was a validation for your already made up mind to go ahead with the S22U. Comrade...don't sweat it...if your heart says goes for it..and you have the means for it...go ahead enjoy! As @enigmaamit said here... life's short..enjoy it to the fullest...Go ahead...take the leap of faith...

I am definitely looking forward to the S-Pen being built in. I do a lot of photo editing using my fat fingers so having the pressure-sensitive pen will save me a lot of "undo/redo" time.
The latest "leaked images" show the screen flatter without the curved edges and I like that clean look. I can upgrade for free with my network so I am ready to leap!

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.

No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.

OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....

No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.

Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.

I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!

In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb

HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.

Buy chinese version for dual sim card

Or an european one - we have dual sim too.

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In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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maddler said:
And 80W charge.
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kouzelnik3 said:
Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference

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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday

I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.

Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable

I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68

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OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.