Greetings All!
Relative noob here... Appropriate patience appreciated. I started the year buying a new-to-me Canadian Rogers SM-N950W already upgraded to Oreo (n950wvls5crl1). To my dismay, it looks like because of that update I cannot get root.
Now with my phone (unlocked and running on Bell) offering up the Pie update, I'm wondering whether I should accept. Is there a chance that root will come along for Oreo, and Pie will be just another obstacle to that? Or is root access just not in the cards for this phone, so I should take my Pie and be happy?
Any input appreciated.
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It is my understanding that (just like all the North American Snapdragon variants) you will never be able to root under current ways. Anything higher than bootloader 3 will not be rootable as the loopholes were closed with the higher upgrades. You might as well enjoy the new software upgrades.
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Thanks for the tip. Sigh... At least I'll have Pie to ease the disappointment. Next round I'll see if I can get a hold of an exynos.
Any change?
Is root available now on Pie?
Thanks
lifeisfun said:
Any change?
Is root available now on Pie?
Thanks
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No change! Still locked bootloader!
Read the safestrap thread for updates!
BluePhnx said:
No change! Still locked bootloader!
Read the safestrap thread for updates!
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Thanks for reply!
That's unfortunate
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Are people still working on cracking the AT&T G870A or is it a lost cause?
If yes, how's it going?
I had a G870F but sent it swimming on 20m deep for three weeks. Needless to say it didn't survive.
Found the G870A and thought it was a bargain, however . . .
Pretty much a lost cause, most devs have moved on.
So the answer is not so straight forward. The current v 5.1 and above for the AT&T phones are not currently rootable. If you find a used or remanufactured S5 or S5 Active with 4.2 you will be in luck. I just had a problem with my Active found a replacement on the most popular buying and selling web site for around $230. Just make sure it has not been updated. If the seller is advertising it as 4.2 and you get it with 5.0 they must take it back if it's not what was advertised. Hope this helps.
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
darthmalus said:
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
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Thanks, but I have bought the phone already. If I get another one or replace the one I have it'll probably be a European, G870F, the same modell I had before.
dosmastr said:
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
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You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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Sgt.CM said:
You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
dosmastr said:
so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
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When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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stew1411 said:
When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
North of the wall said:
Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Well it's soldered to the board. You would need some highly specialized equipment to do it. Even then I'm not sure.
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Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
Both are locked down. AT&T and Samsung are being jerks to us and not even letting us have a developer phone to try to use like Verizon had.
roserez said:
Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
Sgt.CM said:
If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
FrozenClear said:
Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
FrozenClear said:
That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
NavSad said:
Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
FrozenClear said:
So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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You can look in Galaxy S5 Android Development.
I know there's a root method out already, but I prefer to hold off given the potential limitations (especially the battery 80% issue).
Based on your experience, do you think there will be a better root method coming out soon?
Thanks!
pappaellio said:
I know there's a root method out already, but I prefer to hold off given the potential limitations (especially the battery 80% issue).
Based on your experience, do you think there will be a better root method coming out soon?
Thanks!
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No. No. No.
masri1987 said:
No. No. No.
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why?
pappaellio said:
why?
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because it requires a unlocked bootloader, not a engineering bootloader.
If the S8\s8+ doesn't get it, we def ain't gonna get it for Snapdragon users.
One of the main reasons i went exynos
masri1987 said:
because it requires a unlocked bootloader, not a engineering bootloader.
If the S8\s8+ doesn't get it, we def ain't gonna get it for Snapdragon users.
One of the main reasons i went exynos
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does the Exynos Note 8 have an unlocked bootloader?
pappaellio said:
I know there's a root method out already, but I prefer to hold off given the potential limitations (especially the battery 80% issue).
Based on your experience, do you think there will be a better root method coming out soon?
Thanks!
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Are you asking if someone has a crystal ball and can tell you the future development of the phone? Maybe they can give me winning lottery ticket numbers.
douger1957 said:
Are you asking if someone has a crystal ball and can tell you the future development of the phone? Maybe they can give me winning lottery ticket numbers.
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Wow: mean();
Unhappy snarky people.
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masri1987 said:
because it requires a unlocked bootloader, not a engineering bootloader.
If the S8\s8+ doesn't get it, we def ain't gonna get it for Snapdragon users.
One of the main reasons i went exynos
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What that means is no one has been able to find a workaround (engineering or otherwise) or not smart enough to figure it out yet and they're not clairvoyant enough to know if anyone can in the future. But I think it's a great question that I had actually been wondering myself.
pappaellio said:
I know there's a root method out already, but I prefer to hold off given the potential limitations (especially the battery 80% issue).
Based on your experience, do you think there will be a better root method coming out soon?
Thanks!
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Soon? absolutely not. I recommend backing up your stuff using samsung cloud and trying the root to see how it affects you. Exynos has a Unlocked BL HOWEVER it does not work on CDMA carriers.
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Soon? absolutely not. I recommend backing up your stuff using samsung cloud and trying the root to see how it affects you. Exynos has a Unlocked BL HOWEVER it does not work on CDMA carriers.
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thanks for all the responses. very much appreciated.
i'm on Tmobile, so maybe i should get the exynos version if that root works better?
also, which phone/brand is easy to root?
pappaellio said:
thanks for all the responses. very much appreciated.
i'm on Tmobile, so maybe i should get the exynos version if that root works better?
also, which phone/brand is easy to root?
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if you get exynos there's a chance you'll have the issue where you have to wait 7 days to unlock your bootloader, you can get the korean version which comes unlocked out of box.
If you're not looking to deal with this kind of risk then go for pixel line, one plus 5\5t when it comes out, not sure what else really, the essential phone should have unlocked bootloader and roms soon as they've promised to release the source code and image files.
I have Note 8 snapdragon SM-N9500 unlocked from Hong Kong and I need TWRP for root but it is not out yet for Snapdragon AGH! waiting.. till 2018
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I have Note 8 snapdragon SM-N9500 unlocked from Hong Kong and I need TWRP for root but it is not out yet for Snapdragon AGH! waiting.. till 2018
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You can compile twrp for your device yourself....and if successfully...and they feel it works they will make it official...check out their site...Google compile twrp
I got an SM-N950U about a week ago but have have not unboxed it yet.
I'm sure there have been OTA updates being pushed out.
What build(s) can been rooted?
JerryRecords said:
I got an SM-N950U about a week ago but have have not unboxed it yet.
I'm sure there have been OTA updates being pushed out.
What build(s) can been rooted?
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Any under BQJA...so the latest updates break root...
AQH7, AQH9, AQI5, AQI9, AQIA...that's about it
Here with the model N9500 you can unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP and root with magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-n9500-unlocking-bl-twrp-t3696103
Hello all.
I just received an "unlocked" Sprint Note 8 cellphone N950U and Im a little confused.
I used to had a Note 4 that i flashed with a U firmware that removed all the bloatware, is this avaible for the Note 8?
Why arent custom roms or a stable root (magisk) avaible for this cellphone?
Had a lot of time retired from Samsung side (OnePlus guy here) but was stolen during a car accident that i had this weekend.
Thanks a lot and dont forget your safety belt while driving!
jorgemuela said:
Hello all.
I just received an "unlocked" Sprint Note 8 cellphone N950U and Im a little confused.
I used to had a Note 4 that i flashed with a U firmware that removed all the bloatware, is this avaible for the Note 8?
Why arent custom roms or a stable root (magisk) avaible for this cellphone?
Had a lot of time retired from Samsung side (OnePlus guy here) but was stolen during a car accident that i had this weekend.
Thanks a lot and dont forget your safety belt while driving!
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EDIT: Never mind... wrong link if you want to root the phone. This is your only option to root on snapdragon. I would suggest you read through that thread.
jorgemuela said:
Hello all.
I just received an "unlocked" Sprint Note 8 cellphone N950U and Im a little confused.
I used to had a Note 4 that i flashed with a U firmware that removed all the bloatware, is this avaible for the Note 8?
Why arent custom roms or a stable root (magisk) avaible for this cellphone?
Had a lot of time retired from Samsung side (OnePlus guy here) but was stolen during a car accident that i had this weekend.
Thanks a lot and dont forget your safety belt while driving!
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Note 8 is locked bootloader ....there will be no twrp for it until it's unlocked ....which probably won't ever happen .. root is available but not once it's updated past bootloader v3 ...it's the only phone I have had that I didn't root ....I have flashed the Oreo roms and the unlocked versions .... But there aren't any custom roms ...
Oreo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3716281
Unlocked
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884
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nexus6r3plicant01 said:
Note 8 is locked bootloader ....there will be no twrp for it until it's unlocked ....which probably won't ever happen .. root is available but not once it's updated past bootloader v3 ...it's the only phone I have had that I didn't root ....I have flashed the Oreo roms and the unlocked versions .... But there aren't any custom roms ...
Oreo
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3716281
Unlocked
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/guide-sm-n950u-u1-t3685884
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Thank you very much!
Is there any risk I'm.flashing those versions?
Did you recommend me Oreo or Nougat Unlocked?
jorgemuela said:
Thank you very much!
Is there any risk I'm.flashing those versions?
Did you recommend me Oreo or Nougat Unlocked?
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Also can I flash F variants into my Note? Its U Variant
Thanks in advance
jorgemuela said:
Thank you very much!
Is there any risk I'm.flashing those versions?
Did you recommend me Oreo or Nougat Unlocked?
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Oreo has not been OFFICIALLY released for the Note8. There has been some leaked builds, but none for the unlocked U1 firmware. So if you want Oreo, you'll have to go with carrier firmware.
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Also can I flash F variants into my Note? Its U Variant
Thanks in advance
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Dear God no. Unless you want a brick.
Now, seriously, all of your questions have been answered in detail, and in guides, here on XDA. I highly encourage you to use the search bar and do some research of your own.
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Oreo has not been OFFICIALLY released for the Note8. There has been some leaked builds, but none for the unlocked U1 firmware. So if you want Oreo, you'll have to go with carrier firmware.
Dear God no. Unless you want a brick.
Now, seriously, all of your questions have been answered in detail, and in guides, here on XDA. I highly encourage you to use the search bar and do some research of your own.
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Thanks for your advice. But I'm variant U not U1... Or I'm wrong?
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Thanks for your advice. But I'm variant U not U1... Or I'm wrong?
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You asked about unlocked firmware. That would be U1 firmware.
has there been any workaround for unlocking the boorloader. i remember with the htc one xl in early development we hex edited the user id to all 1111111 witch gave us super user. i am not a developer. just a long time lover of android.
also magisk has a patch boot method. i take it we need the bootloader first?
any help is appreciated.
has anyone set up a bounty for work on the at&t us phones
k4get1 said:
has there been any workaround for unlocking the boorloader. i remember with the htc one xl in early development we hex edited the user id to all 1111111 witch gave us super user. i am not a developer. just a long time lover of android.
also magisk has a patch boot method. i take it we need the bootloader first?
any help is appreciated.
has anyone set up a bounty for work on the at&t us phones
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Nope. The Bootloader can not and never will be unlocked. If you have to have an unlocked bootloader then I suggest through N960F Exynos version.
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Nope. The Bootloader can not and never will be unlocked. If you have to have an unlocked bootloader then I suggest through N960F Exynos version.
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Thanks Mr. Orange
what about root without bootloader?
k4get1 said:
Thanks Mr. Orange
what about root without bootloader?
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Not on the US models
Unlocked bootloaders for a AT&T device has been unachievable since the S4 days. I'm assuming the security key to unlock it, is on a USB, hanging around the CEO neck.
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sandman7793 said:
Unlocked bootloaders for a AT&T device has been unachievable since the S4 days. I'm assuming the security key to unlock it, is on a USB, hanging around the CEO neck.
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ROFLMFAO
ya my note 4 is back home in a pod while my house gets remodeled its still on the 4.4
thanks for the help.
i should have bought the oneplus 6t
you know anyone who may want to trade one for the note 9
Hi, I apologize if this is easy info to find, I have tried to search but have been unsuccessful.
I have an unlocked s20fe, I am missing some vzw features, mainly video calling. Can anyone tell me...
1. Is it possible to flash this device
2. Can I find a vzw official rom? Or one based off of it?
I have been out of the rom/root game since back in the days of the note 3 and razr Maxx. So I apologize for my current ignorance.
Thank you for your help!
The US Variants of the Galaxy phones cannot have an unlocked bootloader = no root.
everlasting207 said:
The US Variants of the Galaxy phones cannot have an unlocked bootloader = no root.
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Not true. There are paid services that will unlock the bootloader, though folks may not be comfortable with the method and price.
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Not true. There are paid services that will unlock the bootloader, though folks may not be comfortable with the method and price.
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How about a vzw rom? Any link to a reputable service? None of the devices that I used in the past had "unlocked bootloaders". They were all dependant upon an exploit that someone took advantage of, so not really concerned if it is not an 'official' unlock. Thanks for the help!
Bump for a link?
Is EU version SM-G780FZBDEUB rootable? I am buying unlocked https://d.pr/i/vwfVEY. If it isnt then perhaps I will go with Oneplus 8T
Go for 8t