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This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
I'm satisfied with the Snapdragon 820's integrated DAC, and this is coming from someone who's accumulated thousands of dollars of audio equipment through the years.
I really don't care what my photographs look like on a phone's tiny 1080p screen. I edit and examine my photographs on my computer and the 4K television it outputs them to. I'm satisfied, as long as the phone takes great shots and film that are worthy for future preservation.
It is a little odd for you to post this on the OP3's XDA developer forum, if you're not one who commonly unlocks, roots, and contributes, besides the fact you seem unsatisfied with the phone. I don't think that you will find many people if any who would encourage to switch devices here.
In fact, I really dislike the ZTE brand, they are poor in updating their device's software, the quality control is poor, all three ZTE devices I've owned have suffered hardware failures, one as recent last month with my father's Axon. The developer community and customer service is poor as well. OnePlus has poor customer service, but developer community is among the best.
I wish you luck on your journey.
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Judging by these comparisons I've found, the Axon7 has some advantages, but overall the OP3 still beats it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iln4VouVW-Q
Camera is better on the OP3 except the abysmal camcorder audio, which has been fixed on XDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXF-J-zCKQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGzHmIqbkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5sQBh_qnJk
the most important factor for me: Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device.
I was in the same situation as you are right now but quickly reconsidered after seeing these videos.
Their ui is ugly too
biglilsteve said:
This thread could be total blasphemy...sorry in advance if it is!
I've bad my op3 for maybe 3 weeks and really like it. Performance is excellent and smooth. Battery life is great. Absolutely love Oxygen OS.
But the audio experience doesn't match what I had with my Nexus 6 and I believe I can see the limitations in the 1080p screen when zooming into photos that I have snapped. They don't look as crisp as the N6 when viewing close up, even though I know the op3 has a better camera.
The Axon 7 has a lot to offer at the same price point. Awesome audio experience, better screen, bigger battery (even if becomes a wash due to the better screen), expandable storage. What's not to love with regards to specs?
My only concerns are ZTE's UI and the bootloader. I don't have an issue running stock firmware if it is good. I have no desire to unlock or root my op3 because I'm completely satisfied with OOS. if ZTE's UI isn't good, I'm scared of being stuck with it.
Anyway that ended up being a longer post than I thought. But are there any op3 owners pondering the Axon 7?
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Well well... If that bootloader is unlocked I'm in
I'm also on the fence between OP3 and Axon 7; both devices have strong and weak points, but as OP say the ZTE UI and bootloader lock would make the difference.
Quality checks also do have importance, thus it would be nice to hear from existing Axon 7 owners.
You're not on an Axon 7 forum what's the point of this thread? If you want to move on a new phone our opinion doesn't matter.
Well if someone happen to have both, or experience with ZTE, it does. I am also interested to know. The Axon 7 I believe offers 2 UI choices; the ZTE one, and stock Android, which is a big plus (no DnD disabled-slider BS and whatnot). This is a good forum to discuss it, because the audience is tech-savy and can give good feedback on what they know about difference between Op3 and A7, I think.
Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
Axon - ?
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.... Unlocking the bootloader, rooting and flashing roms is allowed by OnePlus! Also there is already a huge community for this device...
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This is the most important plus point for OP3 over axon.
And this is the reason I'll always go with OP3
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Oneplus - Custom rom and unlock bootloader
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Axon should have better display and audio (both DAC and speakers).
Design and development wise OP3 wins hands down, though.
Im on the same boat, the phone on paper beats the the 1+3 (bigger battery, better screen, better sound, expandable storage, etc) I almost preordered it, there are a few things holding me back, this will be my 1st time buying an ZTE phone, I dont know how good their hardware is, nobody knows anything about their update system, is uncertain if the bootloader will be unlocked, the black/grey version will be coming out the 2nd week of August by that time the next Nexus might already be announced (I know I might want that phone too).
@Giocarro
The OP3 DAC can easily compete with higher priced devices
https://youtu.be/ATxLNEDYqDk?t=1h23m54s
http://pocketnow.com/2016/06/27/oneplus-3-review#toc-7
Initial anecdotal impressions of the OP3 were very positive.
This phone has a clean, punchy, balanced output from the headphone jack,
and this amp is more powerful than the hardware found on the Galaxy S7 or LG G5.
Running this phone through some analyzer tools, it handily beat those two flagships,
and trailed directly behind some of our absolute favorite music phones like the HTC 10 and LG V10,
just nipping at the heels of the iPhone 6S. This was shocking in the best way possible.
The OnePlus 3 sounds like a very good option for the audiophile on a budget.
The bottom firing speaker is no slouch either. Not the loudest we’ve tested for alerts and notifications,
but providing detailed and crisp playback.
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Good discussion guys. @AcmE85, the links you posted are very helpful!
Obviously, I could have taken this post to the ZTE forum but I didn't want to be inundated with responses from people that are overly excited about the ZTE. I figured here, people might be a little more calculated in their responses...and most of you have been. Thank you!
I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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I just want to clearify that I am not biased.
I can admit that my OPOs display is objectively sharper than the OP3 when displaying small fonts for example...
I was also thinking about returning my OP3 for the ZTE but kept it in the end.
The Axon7 has some advantages, but in the areas which are most important to me the OP3 shines.
I probably would have waited for the next Nexus anyway if it wasn't for the OP3.
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Yeah, your comments were very objective.
I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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I know it's subjective but that phone is fugly (imho)
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Haha funny I think the opposite. I think it is a better looking phone than the op3...especially from the front. From the back they are both equally attractive.
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Looks like the love child of a radiator cover and an LG :laugh:
Buying a phone beased on hardware specs is never a good idea. ZTE is too new in this game. You will just waste money.
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Please explain why you say that. Exclude updates (could be bootloader unlock)
The expectation from one plus 5 was high, when it was being released. It seems that one plus is not putting any innovative ideas in their UI or overall system experience. They should at least put some new ideas to their user experience. Please vote and let them know...
think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Charging: phenomenally quick charging, bested by none. (Thanks @3DSammy )
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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Not everyone agrees with you. When you speak of user experience, do you mean something like TouchWiz? No thanks. As close to stock as possible is what people in this forum prefer.
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think you're being a little harsh mate, there are a lot of qualities which add up to an experience that you don't get from any other device.
Speed: The fastest phone there is, bar none.
Audio: Loudest phone i've ever had, couple that with viper audio and it's even louder
Battery: Best battery i've ever had on any phone including the note 4 which was supposed to be superb.
Screen: Jelly effect aside (i don't get this problem) 1+ going for a 1080p screen is the way it should be, a 2k screen on a 5 inch device? What is the point.
Build: Strong casing covering the phone and a non bendy screen
Software: For the first time ever, I've actually contemplated not rooting my device (it's rooted now btw ) Reason being is you can theme and change things which you can't on other devices.
Camera: Ok this one is a bit of a sore subject, I actually rate the camera, i've took some superb shots with it.
Overall when you put this together you get a package which very few can compete with
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
OP5 to me is the Nexus that I've missed.... It's speedy and utilitarian... The pixel didn't appeal to me and I think maybe alot of the og Nexus fans too....
If you don't like Nexus, I'm guessing you won't like OP....
Couldn't disagree more with the OP. This is the best phone I've ever owned. And the UI is basically vanilla android but with see very useful additions. The kind of additions I used to flash custom ROMs to get.
I was a successful customer of one plus 3 and 3T... I loved these 2 very much as these were best of their time.... Except dual camera setup which is still not as stable as it should be and Dash charger, I do not see big differences in from previous ones...
Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
You do realize it is a small company and they kinda have to update 3 phones now. This takes a bit o time. Besides, they probably invest most of their resources on the Oreo update now.
Do you really think Samsung offers better updates?
As for the differences between last year's model and this year's model - there never is a big differences between those. Generally speaking. They are more like incremental upgrades.
Let's take the S7 and S8. The biggest difference is the screen and that's pretty much it.
In my opinion, one should always skip one phone generation to get the best results. If you had the 3T, there was no reason to get the 5 now. It's better to wait for the 6 as that may be a better upgrade. Same applies to Samsung, LG, HTC and everything else.
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You expect OnePlus to innovate? They've barely been around for five years.
Quit dreaming and buy an iPhone or a Samsung.
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The only thing I'd add to your list is the phenomenal Dash charging. Just today or yesterday XDA posted a comparison of various brand's charging technologies and the OnePlus Dash charging came out on top. When I bought the OP5 and first charged it that was the very first thing that WOWed me. I definitely agree with the rest of your list. Maybe add the OnePlus companies cooperative attitude to developers with a TWRP recovery available by the end of the very first weekend after release. Its my Nexus series replacement. As times gone by (I ordered the OP5 two hours after the streamed announcement), OOS with multiple OTA releases and its general almost stock experience has reinforced my confidence in this purchase.
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Completely agree with the charging it's not of this earth.
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Undoubtedly it is good phone but not the best of his time... So many bugs still present in software.... No beta update for one plus 5.... No latest security patches... Even my op3 has latest security patch as compared to my one plus 5..
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Please compare this to another phone and put the the other ahead!! What phone out ever has no problems? The fact that your 3 is still getting updates in a timely manner is a good thing.
The reason why we got a OnePlus is partly because we prefer as close as possible AOSP experience with a few value added enhancements
If you're into UI and stuff, you're definitely looking the wrong phone and should consider what Samsung or Xiaomi has to offer instead
Download a launcher.
This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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hahah , yeah.
Damn people, they want stupid gadget but dont want to pay for it.
For many people, the op5 is perfect because it's simple, still have capacitive button ( which make the android signature imo), simple = the parts will be cheap on ebay, and we dont pay for stupid random gadget.
NO! REMOVING 3.5mm jack is NOT innovation.
Why spend $$$ to get a fcking edge screen that will cost 500$ to replace ?
IP67 , when 95% of people wont get close to water with their phone, and 99% of them never drop their phone in water anyway.
op5 is innovative in a way that they give you high spec with minimal parts. Imho, this make a durable phone (5-6 years easy), and as we can notice, the earth need a break of overconsuming rightnow.
Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
There is tons more development available for this device compared to the XL, and for a company that is so young, they are doing an amazing job.
Yeah, the camera didn't live up to the hype, but it's not a horrible camera by any means.
I am getting the same user experience as my Pixel XL, and even better than the XL in some areas as well - all for significantly less than what I paid for the XL.
That being said, I definitely don't think it's reasonable to say there is no innovation, despite the 5 looking similar to an iPhone. The iPhone's design isn't bad at all in my opinion, so that carries over to the 5.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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This thread so dumb I thought I am browsing the OnePlus forums
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Just people having their say. Sometimes the worst questions or ideas for a thread become extremely popular.
Otherwise why are people posting here
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Coming from a Pixel XL, the design of this phone is much better; feels much nicer in the hand and isn't as heavy.
All in all, I'm really loving this phone and I do not regret selling my XL to get this I am open minded and will see how the Pixel 2 is though, but just in terms of development, I don't know if I'd switch back.
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Honestly can't see the pixel 2 having anything ground breaking that would make me want to move over.
The camera will be great but OS and performance, stamina and build will be very similar.
Tbh I can see the 1+5 beating it in terms of speed.
Guess we'll see.
Plus if the pixel goes for a 2k screen then you'll see how much of a benefit a 1080p screen gives you in regards to performance and battery longevity.
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Hmmmmmm - I vote that that you would be better off trading in op5 and get this
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i always viewed oneplus devices as extremely minimal. I know, you know and oneplus knows that if you want an innovative UI you can download it from the play store. Think of the thing as a modular phone on the software side. I like the thing because it works really well and charges nice and fast doesnt slow down and remembers every app right where i was unless the app itself has a background refresh built in. Its a good phone and should be treated as such.
sure, it's innovative! you get to choose between Wifi AND cellular data. the screen protectors lay perfectly flat on the screen, which is also flat. this phone is small! it fits perfectly in all kinds of pockets. the screen lights up in the dark so you can see it at night. you can install multiple applications without removing the old ones. on top of all that - wireless discharging!
seriously, you are living in the era of the Jetsons (assuming you're old enough to remember that show). splitting hairs about a company's R&D standards is so moot when you have a super [email protected]$$ computer in your pocket. just don't buy it! or return it! move along!
As described in the title.
I'm failing to find a replacement for my N6..
Pixels are way above the budget.
OnePlus feels like it but lacks stereo speakers, but looks like good enough as camera (ois) and OS (updates,cleaner).
Moto g6 is mid ranger - good value for money, lacks OIS and stereo. Plus OS updates will be long delayed if I compare it with ny wife's G5S Moto.
Nokia 7+ looked promising as design, Android One program, battery. Budget wise - exactly to the point. However missing stereo speakers. And camera looks like disappointment to reviewers due to lack of OIS.
Any thoughts ?
My brother has the Nokia 7+. And I own a Nexus 6. As for comparison, I can say that 7+ is an OKAY upgrade. But sure, N6's speakers are better. 7+ speaker is not bad tho. But trust me, you'll miss the amoled display. 7+ cameras are awesome, don't listen to reviewers. Install gcam and viola, pixel quality shots on N7+.
We have the same situation tho. For now, I consider the Xiaomi Mi8 SE and refurbished Pixel XL.
As I wait for a worthy replacement, I am maximizing the life out of my N6. Recently changed the battery, flashed custom ROM & kernel. And man, I never thought this device will still hold its own like it does. Maybe keep this phone until the end of this year. I think we still have to wait for more SD710 phones to come out. But that's just me. Cheers!
@Ivan - thanks! Sounds promising And yes - N6 is still holding on, just I've dropped it. Still has life in it though.
Which ROM do you use?
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@Ivan - thanks! Sounds promising And yes - N6 is still holding on, just I've dropped it. Still has life in it though.
Which ROM do you use?
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I'm on AOSiP 8.1 with Popcorn Kernel v1.4 and it's working very great. Still observing for best battery life tho.
Oh, I forgot to mention, I'm very hyped for the budget Pixel phone with SD710. I think that's the phone for me.. and I feel it. :laugh:
Well, if you can endure the cracked screen for until early 2019, wait for it.
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I'm failing to find a replacement for my N6..
.....Any thoughts ?
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I'm looking for a replacement, including wireless charging.
I wait for a Nokia 8 Sirocco with a lower price.
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Pixels are way above the budget.
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No financing options where you are? I ask because financing through Google is how I got my P2XL.
My N6 though is still seeing use. My roommate preferred it over the Moto X Style (XT1575) I got for her, simply because the screen was larger as well as Android 8.x custom ROMs. That's saying something when an older device is preferred over a newer one, but I digress. I wouldn't go with any of the options you give in your post title however. None of them have quad HD screens and apparently they don't have stereo speakers either. Instead, I'd look into used devices such as on Swappa and get one from there.
Thank you for your replies.
Yes, not easy..N6 proved to be actual in the present, and not easy to replace in mid-range.
Yes Pixels are.very expensive here.
I would go with LineageOS if I was not security freak and doubting about installing Google Apps aside from a site.
OpenGApps.org is a reputable site and has been the "go to" option for years. However, several developers on XDA also have downloadable GApps packages available. I'd hunt for them if you don't trust OpenGApps.org, and then upgrade your N6. Nitrogen is a good choice, better than LineageOS I feel.
Imagine if they revived shamu with 18:9 aspect ratio, fingerprint sensor, usb type c, upgraded camera & SoC, same awesome front firing speakerS. Heck yeah, that's my dream phone!
It already exists. It's called the Pixel 2 XL.
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It already exists. It's called the Pixel 2 XL.
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Nah, no headphone jack & wireless charging.
And I also mean the curved back design of shamu.
None of which were on your list. Now, obviously people's mileage will vary here, but wireless charging is something I never used, and as for the headphone jack? I was just like you in thinking I would die without a headphone jack. And then I grew up.
P. S. I rather like phones I can't spin on a desk.
OnePlus 5T seems like such a perfect replacement - probably what I'd get if I were in the market right now. Oneplus has became the de facto nexus replacement after google decided to update its pricing scheme
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No headphone jack on the 2XL. thats a deal breaker for me.
Ta3miyyasandwich said:
OnePlus 5T seems like such a perfect replacement - probably what I'd get if I were in the market right now. Oneplus has became the de facto nexus replacement after google decided to update its pricing scheme
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Thinking about this too. OP5T is still available in my country, 3rd party tho. Will wait for 5T price drops when OP6 arrives here.
I admit that I'd like to see Google buck trends like Samsung, but I don't see it happening. Since there are so few choices out there for decent devices with unlockable bootloaders you will at some point have to decide what you would prefer to give up, whether it be a display without a notch, a headphone jack, or wireless charging.
I can live without the headphone jack, but I also have bluetooth headphones. If I couldn't, I'd be using the USB audio adapter Google provided in the box.
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The only thing I want is wireless charging.
> 4 years of wireless charging and the N6-battery is still good for a day ...
And that is where mileage will vary. I never used wireless charging and don't care if the device has it.
It's too bad Google wants to be like/become Apple. First with the OS now the notch...What's next? Google needs to move away from trying to be Apple before people start to move away from Android. If they haven't started to move away already. I'm also having a hard time finding a worthy phone to replace the Nexus 6...But so far I'm happy staying with it for awhile.
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Imagine if they revived shamu with 18:9 aspect ratio, fingerprint sensor, usb type c, upgraded camera & SoC, same awesome front firing speakerS. Heck yeah, that's my dream phone!
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long live 16:9 :victory:
Who will trust this brand again? Not me!
That's all they want ... releases and forget about old releases and your customers ... no updates or bug fixes
Black Shark 3 or RoG Phone 3 They are more beautiful and have updates with corrections!
Don't trust this brand!!!
ZivasJR said:
Who will trust this brand again? Not me!
That's all they want ... releases and forget about old releases and your customers ... no updates or bug fixes
Black Shark 3 or RoG Phone 3 They are more beautiful and have updates with corrections!
Don't trust this brand!!!
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Black shark 3 is nice.
And there's a few other gaming phones coming this year.
nubia the worst phones, never again
Same here will never touch this brand again, still remember the day I went to the website to see if there were any upcoming update news only to be greeted by the RM3S I knew then I'd get no more updates.
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I mean you can't be mad about not getting updates. It's a sub $500 phone. You get what you pay for. If you want updates you get a pixel and Nubia's track record on support and update is has been established as pretty much non existent.
I'm sure they would do some actual updates is they started selling these at that $600 price point. But then people would cry about how it's so expensive. Software development cost money. Nothing is free. Sucks they have the industrys worse software support but it's a sub $500 phone. You get what you pay for.
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I mean you can't be mad about not getting updates. It's a sub $500 phone. You get what you pay for. If you want updates you get a pixel and Nubia's track record on support and update is has been established as pretty much non existent.
I'm sure they would do some actual updates is they started selling these at that $600 price point. But then people would cry about how it's so expensive. Software development cost money. Nothing is free. Sucks they have the industrys worse software support but it's a sub $500 phone. You get what you pay for.
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I more bothered the device isn't fit for purpose in some areas having to tweak a phone just to be able to have the names show up when getting a phone call amongst the main things I've had £250 phones that get the basics right.
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My new Phone is Black Shark 3 Pro or ROG Phone 3
ZivasJR said:
Who will trust this brand again? Not me!
That's all they want ... releases and forget about old releases and your customers ... no updates or bug fixes
Black Shark 3 or RoG Phone 3 They are more beautiful and have updates with corrections!
Don't trust this brand!!!
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Honestly, Nubia could have done better... After so much analysis, I went with RM3S knowing that there will be no updates...
No regrets with RM3S... It does what it is meant to be brought... If updates or features are provided, would be happy...
In built fan works like a charm which no other phone has it... I play CODM on high screen resolution and very high frame rate for couple of hours straight and had no issues... Dont know if other phones can do that... Personally I like ROG3...
If you want a daily driver, definitely RM3S is not the right phone... I agree for that... But for gaming, RM3S performs upto the mark..
Aru
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Honestly, Nubia could have done better... After so much analysis, I went with RM3S knowing that there will be no updates...
No regrets with RM3S... It does what it is meant to be brought... If updates or features are provided, would be happy...
In built fan works like a charm which no other phone has it... I play CODM on high screen resolution and very high frame rate for couple of hours straight and had no issues... Dont know if other phones can do that... Personally I like ROG3...
If you want a daily driver, definitely RM3S is not the right phone... I agree for that... But for gaming, RM3S performs upto the mark..
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Works like a charm? You might wanna do some actual testing. And use something that measures the actual soc's temps not some random temp. The RM3S shows 40c but the actual soc is at over 71c. Still running cool in terms of phones but it's very far off and the fan only does a 1c drop at full load. Honestly more then I thought it would since fans require heatsinks to remove heat.
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I mean you can't be mad about not getting updates. It's a sub $500 phone.Software development cost money. Nothing is free. Sucks they have the industrys worse software support but it's a sub $500 phone. You get what you pay for.
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But what about Xiaomi,Realme and ViVo then ?
Nubia has opted for a bad business model,they should better focus on creating a loyal userbase,instead of releasing one device after another without aftermarket support.
OnePlus would've never been such a big player in the smartphone league if they acted the same as Nubia......
I agree!
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But what about Xiaomi,Realme and ViVo then ?
Nubia has opted for a bad business model,they should better focus on creating a loyal userbase,instead of releasing one device after another without aftermarket support.
OnePlus would've never been such a big player in the smartphone league if they acted the same as Nubia......
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Good words!
You get more value with them. I never said Nubia was a good value. Just you have to go in knowing you won't get updates. Just like when I buy a Samsung phone I know I'll be atleast 9 months behind before I get an Android upgrade. Samsung has gotten better but I still go in knowing updates and slow down again. If I want fast updates I go with a Pixel. But Samsung beat Google on a security patch but still. I buy a Nubia phone I'm buying it as is. If it gets an update great. If not it's a sub $500 phone you get what tyou pay for. $500 is not a lot.
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Works like a charm? You might wanna do some actual testing. And use something that measures the actual soc's temps not some random temp. The RM3S shows 40c but the actual soc is at over 71c. Still running cool in terms of phones but it's very far off and the fan only does a 1c drop at full load. Honestly more then I thought it would since fans require heatsinks to remove heat.
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Bro... not sure what is the issue with your device... I play straight couple of hours of CODM with High Graphics and Very High Frame Rate and I still get the same performance as I got at the first minute... to me, it works like a charm... It does serve my purpose of a gaming phone... I am not a fan-boy btw, I still regret my decision against ROG 2 (it was available only via flash sales in my region)... Still I need to give the due share it owes..
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Aru
If it gets an update great. If not it's a sub $500 phone you get what you pay for. $500 is not a lot.
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Good for you that you're amongst those people who can say that $500 is not a lot of money....
But my point is that some other brands can offer the same hardware specs with much better software support @ the same price point.
So it's not a case of getting what we paid for,but we paid for the wrong brand...
Sure,software developement costs money,but how hard can it be to extend software support for an almost vanilla Android version ?Or keeping security patches up to date ?
And if you don't wanna go that route as manufacturer,let the community do it by making it much easier to install custom ROM's,instead of blocking that option.
It will only benefit your company,as your brand will get more popular....
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Good for you that you're amongst those people who can say that $500 is not a lot of money....
But my point is that some other brands can offer the same hardware specs with much better software support @ the same price point.
So it's not a case of getting what we paid for,but we paid for the wrong brand...
Sure,software developement costs money,but how hard can it be to extend software support for an almost vanilla Android version ?Or keeping security patches up to date ?
And if you don't wanna go that route as manufacturer,let the community do it by making it much easier to install custom ROM's,instead of blocking that option.
It will only benefit your company,as your brand will get more popular....
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$500-$600 is the price every survey shows people will pay for a phone. It's not a lot.
You have trade offs you can't get it all unless you pay for it. You want better hardware you sacrifice quality and support. Want better quality and support you sacrifice hardware specs. Want both you have to pay to play. The most popular devices are well over $1,000 and these devices in the US outsell the sub $500 devices by a large number.
You want better hardware you sacrifice quality and support. Want better quality and support you sacrifice hardware specs. Want both you have to pay to play.
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OK,it seems that you refuse to accept that some types of the 3 brands I posted earlier provide better software support than Nubia,while having about the same hardware specs.......I'm NOT comparing +$1000 devices against Nubia's stuff,so I have no idea why you keep insisting on those kind of statements.
Or perhaps my previous posts were not clear enough.......
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OK,it seems that you refuse to accept that some types of the 3 brands I posted earlier provide better software support than Nubia,while having about the same hardware specs.......I'm NOT comparing +$1000 devices against Nubia's stuff,so I have no idea why you keep insisting on those kind of statements.
Or perhaps my previous posts were not clear enough.......
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loud and clear to me and I fully agree, we never thought we were getting a 1000 phone for 500 we brought it thinking it would be on par with 500 phones that weren't released yet and now for me at least once again have learnt I should of waited although I do have plenty of content planned for my blog and what not I mean they haven't even delt with issues that a basic phone gets right
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I'm really tempted to get the red magic 5g.. the specs on paper are perfect and everything I want in a phone. It looks nice too. However reading this thread is making me wonder if I should just get a black shark 3 or realme x50 pro instead.. is Nubia/red magic that bad?
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I'm really tempted to get the red magic 5g.. the specs on paper are perfect and everything I want in a phone. It looks nice too. However reading this thread is making me wonder if I should just get a black shark 3 or realme x50 pro instead.. is Nubia/red magic that bad?
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that's where they got my looks good on paper everything I want in a phone but reality isn't as good for these phones I held off and brought the camo version with the larger storage amongst a few other things and they seem to release phones instead of updates for there current line up software/rom updates I sort of figured would be lacking but security patches have been neglected since the release of the RM3S so I'd steer clear and go with literally anything else your considering choose red magic and you'll be disappointed
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that's where they got my looks good on paper everything I want in a phone but reality isn't as good for these phones I held off and brought the camo version with the larger storage amongst a few other things and they seem to release phones instead of updates for there current line up software/rom updates I sort of figured would be lacking but security patches have been neglected since the release of the RM3S so I'd steer clear and go with literally anything else your considering choose red magic and you'll be disappointed
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Is it really that bad?
I considered the black shark 3, but it's pretty much inferior in almost every way, at least on paper. Only 90hz, it's thicker, the battery is bigger but it's dual cell, single cell is better, looks ugly in comparison, only 30w charging and lpddr4x or whatever it's called for base model unless you pay a premium etc.
The other phone I was considering is the realme x50 pro.. almost perfect for me, EXCEPT the dual camera punch hole in the screen.. way too big. If it was just a small single punch hole it would have been perfect. Or if it had a pop up selfie camera instead. Not 120hz but I could live with 90hz if everything else was good. It's a good looking phone and has a flat screen at least. Good screen to body ratio, but battery is a bit smaller (should be fine since it has a smaller screen too).
The black shark 3 pro got delayed till the 27th. I can live with that I guess but it's still kinda ugly looking imo. A little expensive too but I can also live with that. Nice physical triggers. Only 90hz but it's 1440p and comes with a memc chip and 270hz touch sampling so I can live with that. I'm worried about how big this phone is though.
The red magic 5g checks all my boxes unless it has poor software and reliability like everyone has said about their previous phones. 144hz, and way better looking than the black shark phones. A little slimmer than the black shark 3. The IC frame compensation thing looked cool.
Hiya, I been looking for a smaller phone for months now, im on a budget, and my best option for me seems to be the 5a 5g. My concern is that Google won't update it that much longer, i think i read until november 2023. I'm alright with that as long as i can do it myself with custom ROMs. My question is, do these phones have a good history with custom ROM development?
I'm also a bit confused, are all 5a's, 5g? Or is that different phones? If so they also use different roms i assume, I don't know how many 5g's there are, but I don't want a niche phone that not many owns and won't be developed much for, so is the 5g a safe bet to that way? If not any suggestions for another phone?
Pixel 6 aint an option, i just dont like it,7 is too expensive.
I also looked at Xiaomi mi 9se its cheap, small but getting old and i feel like the pixel 5a5g is a much better phone.
Any thoughts and input is very welcome
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Hiya, I been looking for a smaller phone for months now, im on a budget, and my best option for me seems to be the 5a 5g. My concern is that Google won't update it that much longer, i think i read until november 2023. I'm alright with that as long as i can do it myself with custom ROMs. My question is, do these phones have a good history with custom ROM development?
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Pixels in general are great development platforms. They're also Treble compliant so even after Google stops pushing system updates, you'll still be able to run a GSI release.
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I'm also a bit confused, are all 5a's, 5g?
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Yes. All Pixel 5a have 5G capability.
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Pixel 6 aint an option, i just dont like it,7 is too expensive.
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I'm with you there, I didn't upgrade from my Pixel 2 until the Pixel 5 came out. I'm not particularly impressed with the 6 or 7; I want a simple slate device like my 5, not something flashy and fancy.
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Pixels in general are great development platforms. They're also Treble compliant so even after Google stops pushing system updates, you'll still be able to run a GSI release.
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Thank you for your answer. Sounds like im going to buy me a 5a then.
What is a GSI release? And system updates, does that also involve new android versions like from 13 to 14 and so on?
I looked at some of these phones used, i see a few of them have burn in on the screen, is this a weakness on this phone or does it pretty much go for all phones? any way to lower the risk for my phone getting burn in?
Thanks again
hectus said:
Thank you for your answer. Sounds like im going to buy me a 5a then.
What is a GSI release?
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GSI: Generic System Image. No device (product) specific code, meant to be used with a separate kernel on any device
hectus said:
And system updates, does that also involve new android versions like from 13 to 14 and so on?
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Potentially...See here
hectus said:
I looked at some of these phones used, i see a few of them have burn in on the screen, is this a weakness on this phone or does it pretty much go for all phones? any way to lower the risk for my phone getting burn in?
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All OLED screens are susceptible to burn in. It's one of the drawbacks of OLED. Unfortunately, pretty much all mobile screens are OLED, so burn in will always be a possibility.
Burn in is caused by having a static image on the screen for long periods of time. Keep the screen off while you aren't using it, and don't leave it on something that doesn't move.
Thanks again for you answers.
Im going to be looking for a 5a, either new or used and i hope its a phone i can enjoy for a long time.
did you dismiss the 6a along with the 6? the 6a size isn't that much different than the 5a.
the 6a has a much longer published support life than the 5a, because it moves to google's chipset. it's also selling unlocked direct from google at $299 here in the US, cheaper than my 5a was in the first year.
I picked up a used 5a on eBay for under 200$ USD not a bad phone there really a lot of custom roms that I can find beside the basic asop ones and pixel experience