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Chromecast Apps: What's the holdup?

I keep checking around occasionally to see if my Chromecast will become useful today. I would have expected that only a few days after its release, the Google Play store would be filled with interesting Chromecast apps, and existing Android apps would be adding Chromecast features. As of today, the only apps capable of playing media on the Chromecast are still apps that it launched with. I've heard a bit about Koush's unreleased apps, which tells me that the holdup is Google themselves. What gives? Why are they doing this? Does anyone have any idea of when they will allow developers to release their apps? The way this Chromecast thing has played out so far seems very unlike Google, and is making me quite disappointed with them.

Waiting on Google to release the sdk out of beta. No timeline yet. It will come....
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I think main reason for the release of the device was to bring Google Movies service to your big screen TV, the rest was just a bonus. Looks like due to lots of licensing issues, this will be a slow and painful process and I hope it doesn't become the next Apple TV that is barely useful without the jailbreak and XBMC on it.
I also hope someone turns the script from the other thread to a mobile app in a similar fashion to what Koush did.

The way I figure it:
If you were an early adopter, you get a Netflix, Youtube, Google Play and sort-of Chrome tab player for $35. If you got the Netflix 3 months code, then it cost you even less. Think back to the last time you bought a disappointing piece of technology that you had high hopes for... at least this one is cheap!
I'm sure the public SDK will happen when it's good and ready. I just think Google wants to have out some more examples of big-name apps that work really well with Chromecast, before they open the floodgates to all the rest of the devs.

cmstlist said:
Think back to the last time you bought a disappointing piece of technology that you had high hopes for... at least this one is cheap!
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That is true. It's just frustrating to own a capable device with artificial limitations.

Yea we should of known something was up when 3 months of netflix with the device at only $35. That tells me they knew the only content provider they had on board now was netflix. To keep most happy they can say "oh we pretty much gave you the device". Enjoy old movies for the next 6 months and we will slowly add content. Only way for Google to make money is to not let devs release their apps. Fortunately some will grow tired and root the device "again" and developers will create programs that function with beta sdk and your device ID that will enable apps to work as they choose. Only issue is we will never be able to receive content updates as that would patch root access. Kinda a lose lose situation. lol
Its cool dont get me wrong... To sit on the shelf and say i have 5 of them. But in know way fun to use if you already had your netflix and youtube experience. I recommend android stick mk808 or higher even a roku as they are very fun to tinker with.

I think before the 3 months of Netflix expire we'll at least see a few more big names come on board. Both developers and customers are beating down the door to get in.
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I can't help but to be pessimistic about all of this. How can a device with such a simple idea of casting not come out with the ability to cast images from your phone to the TV? It is an obvious omission that almost everyone wants and would have been a simple coding to get it working at launch.
Either way though, I must say I really love my Chromecast as-is, even though it does have these unnecessary artificial limitations.

AlexNC75 said:
I can't help but to be pessimistic about all of this. How can a device with such a simple idea of casting not come out with the ability to cast images from your phone to the TV? It is an obvious omission that almost everyone wants and would have been a simple coding to get it working at launch.
Either way though, I must say I really love my Chromecast as-is, even though it does have these unnecessary artificial limitations.
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Geez people! Have some freaking patients! The SDK is in beta and developers are not allowed to release apps yet. Do you really think they created an SDK to never release it? WTF! It's like a bunch of little kids in a candy store and their mom telling them they can't eat all their candy right away. The SDK WILL be released and people WILL create apps or add functionality to current apps...

Doctors have plenty of patients.
I'd bet the vast majority of purchasers will only ever use this for the 'sanctioned' apps that G itself gets behind. Picasa should have been included out the gate. When I hacked the mk808, it was one of the first things I wanted to do, get my photos up on the big screen. Maybe someday we'll see 'Chromecast-Ready' advertising, but I still wonder how G makes real bank on this product. It's saving grace so far is price and future potential.
edit: and the more I think about it, that future potential tends to circumvent G's interests.

While everyone has a conspiracy theory I think what we're seeing is a typical new product cycle. For a product like Chromecast to be successful Google needs as many apps to support it as possible. However, I'm sure after that app developers are reluctant to support a new hardware product until there are enough devices to warrant it. Look, Windows phone has millions of phones in use but app developers aren't going there. Yes, Chromecast doesn't require much from the app developer but using their precious resources costs money and they don't want to go there until the hardware was proving itself as something people wanted.
Hence Netflix. It was a seed product. An app many millions of people use. If they were on board it could help sell the product. And help it did. I believe the success of Chromecast caught Google off guard. Clearly they weren't able to handle the demand for hardware and the demand by app developers to get things into the Play Store. While they may have thought they'd have until Holiday season to get things rolling, it has been accelerated greatly.
I expect that the next run of the hardware will be bigger and longer. I work for a company that has products made in China. It can take 6 weeks just to get on the schedule of a manufacturer and then many weeks to produce and then 3 weeks to come across the water and go through customs, then another 2 weeks to get into the channel. That's months. Google has more money to throw at the manufacturer to speed things up but there may not be too many suppliers that can make this product.
Time is what is needed. By the end of the year we'll know a lot more. Be patient.

November 13th Update - Anyone Had Anything Yet?

A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
Apparently Google Now will get even smarter than it currently is, with the voice-based assistant getting some sort of answering back features. Furthermore, Google Now will be able to search apps and launch them to perform tasks and show more Google Now cards based on the user’s location:
But the stuff Google says is coming November 13 is the real gravy, and it’s a shame it isn’t already ladled on. One of those things is the ability to ask you questions — so you might say “text Jennifer” and it will reply “which Jennifer,” and then ask you to dictate the message. It’s also going to get the ability to search inside applications, and launch them to complete tasks for you. So, you might search for a restaurant, and an option in the results shows up for OpenTable, which you’ll be able to fire up and make a reservation. It’s also going to use location cues to drop cards into Google Now, even more so than it does currently. At Yellowstone it will show you geyser times, for example. Sadly, none of this stuff was lit up yet, so I wasn’t able to test it. I’m not dinging the phone for that (and it’s not getting any extra credit), but given how interesting these features are, it’s kind of crazy the phone launched without them.
Mathew Honan
Wired
As we have recently learned, the Nexus 5 is more about Google Search services (Google Now included) than any other Nexus before it, not that it’s a bad thing, especially for Android users looking forward to such an Android experience. However, some of those Google Search feature – essentially the new launcher – will be a Nexus 5 exclusive for now, at least officially, so it’ll be interesting to see whether these new Google Now features will be available for everyone else or not.
However, we’re certainly not surprised to hear that Google Now is getting smarter. We’ll be waiting to see Google’s announcement next week to tell you more details about this apparently imminent Google Now update.
Wired has also learned that the Nexus 5 will get a camera update that will fix existing issues with it – check out these posts for camera comparisons with the Nexus 4 and the iPhone 5S.
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nothing here yet

Nothing here yet either!

I really hope that the next update will fix the current software issues too...

hmmm nothing here yet

just checked (at 11.12) and nothing

Oh boy, another rumor thread!
I will be shocked if Google fixes the camera issues this quickly. If it such an easy fix I do not understand why they would release the camera software the way it is currently.
Google just needs to by Kodak or some other company they can fix up. I am sure they can afford to purchase them and better camera's and software in phones is the future right now.

nothing

Google didn't announce a Nexus 5 update like they with the the 4, 7 & 10 yesterday. I doubt it's coming this week.

ratedr75 said:
A few days ago www.wired.com and www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com both reported that there was likely to be a fairly sizeable update coming for the N5 today.
So I thought I would start a thread for this.
http://www.mobilephonereviewsuk.com/nexus-5-firmware-update-coming-week-possibly-wednesday/
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"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"

Vincent Vegas said:
"On November 13, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his wife. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her. With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his childhood friend, Oscar Madison. Sometime earlier, Madison's wife had thrown him out, requesting that he never return. Can two divorced men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
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Maybe I am a little slow but I do not get the connection.....
Anyway, the new rumor is that Nexus 5 will be released on November 28th because Kit-Kat posted a picture of a Turkey weighing 28lbs! That is the release date and I am sticking to it!

I will be very surprised if we get an update today or even this month.

Urbane 2 - tag

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Thanks to @jinkerz9430 for voting up for us, I see its a tag not a forum, but its something.
How we add the tag? I'm in advanced editor, don't see any way to add a tag?

nigelhealy said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Thanks to @jinkerz9430 for voting up for us to get our own forum.
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)

jinkerz9430 said:
Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Yes its not yet got all the structure yet but its a step in right direction, as per my forum request the UB and UB2 are very different.
I can't seem to subscribe to it.

nigelhealy said:
Yes its not yet got all the structure yet but its a step in right direction, as per my forum request the UB and UB2 are very different.
I can't seem to subscribe to it.
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I see they havent even created a normal forum. i mean when you click on all forums, you see all the devices that has independent forums. Yet when you use the find function in chrome or firefox to type urbane, it just appear urbane and not the urbane 2nd edition . So... for the time being, it is recommended to save it as a bookmark for fast accessing.

jinkerz9430 said:
Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Thanks, now I look again it is not a forum, it is a tag, and I can't see how to tag

jinkerz9430 said:
I see they havent even created a normal forum. i mean when you click on all forums, you see all the devices that has independent forums. Yet when you use the find function in chrome or firefox to type urbane, it just appear urbane and not the urbane 2nd edition . So... for the time being, it is recommended to save it as a bookmark for fast accessing.
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now I look further its actually a step sideways, there's a thread which is useful to Huawei watch owners of ported watchfaces from the UB2 so a UB2 owner wouldnt be interested. So the tag is misleading.

nigelhealy said:
Thanks, now I look again it is not a forum, it is a tag, and I can't see how to tag
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when you are creating a new thread, you are always given the function to tag . its usually found on the lower left corner somewhere.
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nigelhealy said:
now I look further its actually a step sideways, there's a thread which is useful to Huawei watch owners of ported watchfaces from the UB2 so a UB2 owner wouldnt be interested. So the tag is misleading.
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by the way, werent they going to release the final version of AW2.0 for the UB2? i thought it was at the beginning of may, but we are almost half way trough already

jinkerz9430 said:
when you are creating a new thread, you are always given the function to tag . its usually found on the lower left corner somewhere.
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by the way, werent they going to release the final version of AW2.0 for the UB2? i thought it was at the beginning of may, but we are almost half way trough already
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Google said late April to late May
"Watches that will receive Android Wear 2.0 end of April/late May - OTA starts end of April/beginning of May for some manufacturers throughout multiple weeks. Timelines differ per watch and manufacturer."
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From my experiementation with AW2 DP on UB2, I'd say the later the better, its buggy and battery drain, so let the "lucky" earlier AW devices shake out bugs I'd say. I downloaded the current AW1.5 just in case I upgraded too early so I can go back. In my case AW2 DP rendered the UB2 unusable at times, so later = fewer bugs + optimized.
This is silly, the Apple Watch is wiping the floor with AW, app support is better, battery life is better, Google it looking more of a joke each year with those expensive Pixel phones. Some people who really want a wearable are so prefering Apple Watch it making them switch to iphone, Yep google, you made a product so bad it drives people to your competitor, way to go google, way to go....

nigelhealy said:
Google said late April to late May
From my experiementation with AW2 DP on UB2, I'd say the later the better, its buggy and battery drain, so let the "lucky" earlier AW devices shake out bugs I'd say. I downloaded the current AW1.5 just in case I upgraded too early so I can go back. In my case AW2 rendered the UB2 unusable at times.
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so.. so far the best version is 1.5 for UB2?

jinkerz9430 said:
so.. so far the best version is 1.5 for UB2?
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So I've had my UB2 now for a few weeks, and I deliberately tried to push its limits, so I then know its limits and now work within its limits.
The fundamental problem is battery life, if you use it tethered to the phone, in BT distance mostly or the odd fallback to Wifi, then battery is good, I see a slow drain say 2%/hour for just notification filtering. If you try to use the UB2 AW2 capability to be a truly standalone mini-phone on your wrist, then battery life stinks, I was get 25%/hour. I played with the likes of the onscreen keyboard, the Play Store, but there were very few apps built for AW2, even the claimed Uber app had disappeared. Using it as a phone for talking, about 50%/hour battery drain and in my case it overheated and hung up the call!
The FAQ and the "support" from Google is terrible, you see they basically suggest resetting the watch as an answer to a problem and there are plenty of users complaining and its not even rolled out to that many yet.
The Apple Watch and the Samsung Gear S3 proves you get a decent product, just Google hasn't yet.
I've owned AW now for over 2 years, I have the Sony SmartWatch 3, it was doing good when I got it, then they did updates which enabled Wifi and it was really buggy battery draining for a couple of updates, now it is very good. So I'm thinking let the masses be suffered by AW2 and version 2.02 (whatever it is called) is the time to jump.
I bought my UB2 because its going to get AW2 and its only $180 or so, and so half the price of the LG Watch Sport which on paper looks extremely similar specs to the UB2.

nigelhealy said:
So I've had my UB2 now for a few weeks, and I deliberately tried to push its limits, so I then know its limits and now work within its limits.
The fundamental problem is battery life, if you use it tethered to the phone, in BT distance mostly or the odd fallback to Wifi, then battery is good, I see a slow drain say 2%/hour for just notification filtering. If you try to use the UB2 AW2 capability to be a truly standalone mini-phone on your wrist, then battery life stinks, I was get 25%/hour. I played with the likes of the onscreen keyboard, the Play Store, but there were very few apps built for AW2, even the claimed Uber app had disappeared. Using it as a phone for talking, about 50%/hour battery drain and in my case it overheated and hung up the call!
The FAQ and the "support" from Google is terrible, you see they basically suggest resetting the watch as an answer to a problem and there are plenty of users complaining and its not even rolled out to that many yet.
The Apple Watch and the Samsung Gear S3 proves you get a decent product, just Google hasn't yet.
I've owned AW now for over 2 years, I have the Sony SmartWatch 3, it was doing good when I got it, then they did updates which enabled Wifi and it was really buggy battery draining for a couple of updates, now it is very good. So I'm thinking let the masses be suffered by AW2 and version 2.02 (whatever it is called) is the time to jump.
I bought my UB2 because its going to get AW2 and its only $180 or so, and so half the price of the LG Watch Sport which on paper looks extremely similar specs to the UB2.
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But which version gave you the best battery life?

I'm not sure I could conclude, when on AW2 I was experimenting​.

Xiaomi making money from software yet officially letting us unlock the bootloader?

So i have never used a Xiaomi device but im looking forward to getting the Mi 9T pro version ,what i got from searching was that one of the main reasons that Xiaomi devices are cheaper is that Xiaomi makes or intends to make most of its profit from showing ads and stuff on the software they have installed on their phones.
If this is the case, then im really curious to know why they would officially give users the tools to unlock their bootloaders ( i know the whole waiting game stuff but still they are officially supporting it ) and possibly root their phones and from what i've gathered it doesn't even void the warranty!!
wouldn't it make much more sense if they instead tried to lock their bootloaders so that users were forced to use their software?
to be clear im not saying that they should change their policy in this way, im very happy that i can root the device and not void the warranty . im just saying that it doesn't make a lot of sense that they'd officially give you the tools and permissions to stop them from profiting from the users.

Hxonper said:
So i have never used a Xiaomi device but im looking forward to getting the Mi 9T pro version ,what i got from searching was that one of the main reasons that Xiaomi devices are cheaper is that Xiaomi makes or intends to make most of its profit from showing ads and stuff on the software they have installed on their phones.
If this is the case, then im really curious to know why they would officially give users the tools to unlock their bootloaders ( i know the whole waiting game stuff but still they are officially supporting it ) and possibly root their phones and from what i've gathered it doesn't even void the warranty!!
wouldn't it make much more sense if they instead tried to lock their bootloaders so that users were forced to use their software?
to be clear im not saying that they should change their policy in this way, im very happy that i can root the device not void the warranty . im just saying that it doesn't make a lot of sense that they'd officially give you the tools and permissions to stop them from profiting from the users.
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FYI i am using k20 pro china rom , yet to see any ads , lol cause i dont use most of their apps . the most forced ads i see is using this xda forum on pc , lol

Hxonper said:
So i have never used a Xiaomi device but im looking forward to getting the Mi 9T pro version ,what i got from searching was that one of the main reasons that Xiaomi devices are cheaper is that Xiaomi makes or intends to make most of its profit from showing ads and stuff on the software they have installed on their phones.
If this is the case, then im really curious to know why they would officially give users the tools to unlock their bootloaders ( i know the whole waiting game stuff but still they are officially supporting it ) and possibly root their phones and from what i've gathered it doesn't even void the warranty!!
wouldn't it make much more sense if they instead tried to lock their bootloaders so that users were forced to use their software?
to be clear im not saying that they should change their policy in this way, im very happy that i can root the device not void the warranty . im just saying that it doesn't make a lot of sense that they'd officially give you the tools and permissions to stop them from profiting from the users.
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Hi, well ok they shouldn't change their policy. Its a fine business model. Few people actually want to root the phone and do all that - they put up with the ads and all that, ads are relatively common online.
But not only that - those people who really want to remove such ads are the people like you and me even who /want/! to buy more of these phones and support the company further. Its not like you maybe will never buy another xiaomi. Once you get the phone you will see.
Its good to have it both ways though? It covers all bases. BUT! Ads are not the entire thing you are on about because like me and others over time we have considered ads wrong - ads don't make the phone completely, its a subsidy. Well just 'one of' several subsidies.
They give you the tools I think because if you really want to remove ads in order to use the phone then you must like the phone enough. Also I think that the 'big' ad days are further and further behind them as they become more profitable and can say to themselves they can make larger launch dates etc and be increasingly well known and purchased - they will probably find even better ways to implement these things.
So for people like you and me and others the ad-loss is not a big deal - its more a way for them to bring you the phone rather than to smack us round the ears with ads for the sake of it.
What a great phone.

Aimara said:
FYI i am using k20 pro china rom , yet to see any ads , lol cause i dont use most of their apps . the most forced ads i see is using this xda forum on pc , lol
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interesting !! i thought only the global rom was nearly ad-free.
Haha there are ways around your pc browsing experience as well

SlimBeaner said:
Hi, well ok they shouldn't change their policy. Its a fine business model. Few people actually want to root the phone and do all that - they put up with the ads and all that, ads are relatively common online.
But not only that - those people who really want to remove such ads are the people like you and me even who /want/! to buy more of these phones and support the company further. Its not like you maybe will never buy another xiaomi. Once you get the phone you will see.
Its good to have it both ways though? It covers all bases. BUT! Ads are not the entire thing you are on about because like me and others over time we have considered ads wrong - ads don't make the phone completely, its a subsidy. Well just 'one of' several subsidies.
They give you the tools I think because if you really want to remove ads in order to use the phone then you must like the phone enough. Also I think that the 'big' ad days are further and further behind them as they become more profitable and can say to themselves they can make larger launch dates etc and be increasingly well known and purchased - they will probably find even better ways to implement these things.
So for people like you and me and others the ad-loss is not a big deal - its more a way for them to bring you the phone rather than to smack us round the ears with ads for the sake of it.
What a great phone.
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well yeah it has been a positive point for me when i was considering whether i should get this device or not and yeah i agree the percentage of users who'd root their devices is very low.
however i just get suspicious when big tech companies try to be on the good side and well in this case sell flagship phones with low prices and also support those who only want the hardware!

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interesting !! i thought only the global rom was nearly ad-free.
Haha there are ways around your pc browsing experience as well
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Hmmm these ads on PC seem to be Google based, wtf they keep showing the Adidas shoes I wanted to get but I am holding back, resist .... Haha

Real "flagship" phones costs around $200-$300 to make. Xiaomi is only making nominal profit from selling their hardware and yes, it also relies on ads through its MIUI OS to gain some more. But overall it is really not that surprising that other phone companies put huge margin of profit on their devices to make more money and many people think that's really how much it costs. lol
To put it into perspective, a $1,000 pixel phone actually costs around $250 to make. Same with iphones and Samsung phones. Samsung flagships might cost a bit higher because of its flagship parts.

I used to see ads on my old Mi4i. Those were on phone UI such as tasks view. I was pretty bummed about that. Few years later I'm on a Xiaomi phone again, but this time I'm using Netguard firewall with ad block host filters and haven't seen an ad yet.

BlackCommando said:
I used to see ads on my old Mi4i. Those were on phone UI such as tasks view. I was pretty bummed about that. Few years later I'm on a Xiaomi phone again, but this time I'm using Netguard firewall with ad block host filters and haven't seen an ad yet.
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Just use adguard DNS. No need to install anything. It also blocks ads on apps.
No link because moderators might think that I am advertising it, well, I am sort of, but it is my humble suggestion to you. :angel:

ntmalol said:
Just use adguard DNS. No need to install anything. It also blocks ads on apps.
No link because moderators might think that I am advertising it, well, I am sort of, but it is my humble suggestion to you. :angel:
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Thanks, I did use Adguard DNS and it blocked almost all ads. But I moved to Netguard to use multiple host files.
Another reason was that unfortunately MIUI firewall doesn't let us block wifi for system apps.

Been using Xiomi phones for 10 months now (both MIUI 10) and I'm yet to see an ad. I actually had no idea ads were included in MIUI.

ntmalol said:
Real "flagship" phones costs around $200-$300 to make. Xiaomi is only making nominal profit from selling their hardware and yes, it also relies on ads through its MIUI OS to gain some more. But overall it is really not that surprising that other phone companies put huge margin of profit on their devices to make more money and many people think that's really how much it costs. lol
To put it into perspective, a $1,000 pixel phone actually costs around $250 to make. Same with iphones and Samsung phones. Samsung flagships might cost a bit higher because of its flagship parts.
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I agree, once Apple started selling phones for 1k $ and higher it also gave competitors like Samsung more room to increase their prices. "flagship" has kinda turned into a marketing term for the huge sum of money you need to pay rather than the top tier hardware and software support you're getting.

Thordelan said:
Been using Xiomi phones for 10 months now (both MIUI 10) and I'm yet to see an ad. I actually had no idea ads were included in MIUI.
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Great but also not great !!! great that they don't bombard you with ads and don't ruin your experience and also not great cause showing ads is their way of making money and when that's not happening then what are they up to? idk maybe that's just me being paranoid

BlackCommando said:
Thanks, I did use Adguard DNS and it blocked almost all ads. But I moved to Netguard to use multiple host files.
Another reason was that unfortunately MIUI firewall doesn't let us block wifi for system apps.
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This is for you and everyone who is reading this, you can disable MSA (MIUI System Ads).
--Go to the setting menu
--Go to Additional settings
--Tap on Authorization & revocation option
--Disable MSA (MIUI System Ads).
after turning msa off, the phone will stop collecting data from your device and sending you ads.
Unfortunately, to get an ad-free user experience you must disable ads recommendation in Mi Browser, Mi Security, Mi Music, and other Mi apps manually.
Posted with help from https://c.mi.com/thread-1864821-1-0.html

ntmalol said:
This is for you and everyone who is reading this, you can disable MSA (MIUI System Ads).
--Go to the setting menu
--Go to Additional settings
--Tap on Authorization & revocation option
--Disable MSA (MIUI System Ads).
after turning msa off, the phone will stop collecting data from your device and sending you ads.
Unfortunately, to get an ad-free user experience you must disable ads recommendation in Mi Browser, Mi Security, Mi Music, and other Mi apps manually.
Posted with help from https://c.mi.com/thread-1864821-1-0.html
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thank you for your response . i hope it does really stop the data collection. in case it doesn't, does rooting, changing the recovery to a custom one and also installing a custom Rom like LOS stop Xiaomi from collecting data?
and also i read that in order to unlock the bootloader i need to install the vendor and firmware for my device , could this act as a backdoor for xiaomi?

If you use miui select to not send data ( should be during setup , other places as well ) .
Xiaomi eu removes all adds in apps ( but that could be considered custom rom ) .
I had adds in apps in mi global , im using miuimix custom rom so i have yet to see an add in apps ( besides browser ).
I don't think id buy a phone that don't allow bootloader unlock. As long as i have a choice I can't complain.

Question Official Samsung watch blood pressure support for US?

The rest of world can do blood pressure stuff with the watch 4 & 5, but not the US. I hear it was a FDA regulations issue that was blocking things got sorted out. Any solid info or rumors on when an official release to make it work? I've seen a few hacks floating & at least 1 rumor after talking to a customer support person saying on official release was suppose to be in December. But as December is almost over that seems dubious. Not planning on fighting with side loading, rooting & what not for the time being, unless the BP stuff is a long ways off.

idk

https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-ecg-blood-pressure-monitoring-samsung-galaxy-watch-4/ for reference on how to do it on the Watch4. I believe it works on the 5, but am not going to be fighting with it for a bit.

Yes, that reference should work on the W5...

Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,

mt2020 said:
Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,
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Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.

bobby janow said:
Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.
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I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.

mt2020 said:
I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.
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I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.

Fallon said:
I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.
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Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though

mt2020 said:
Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though
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First, works great and well needed app on my wrist. As for loading an 'unknown' sourse, Dante63 has done so much to allow us, and he keep maintaining new releases. I have his 'unknown' source since early W4 days (and I had the watch from proably the day it was released). With github release, text install files, video, github, and support for the community for free, what exactly is he going to take from you exactly? If you have Tiktok I would be more worried.. and if you get the google time line as I do once a month, this is REALLY big brother style report.. So if you connect to the internet, you already gave up on privacy.. and they know everything about you already.

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See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ce-restriction-removed-25th-oct-2022.4322527/
According to APK Mirror, the latest is Samsung Health Monitor 1.1.1.221 so I believe this is the latest you can ask for.