https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Thanks to @jinkerz9430 for voting up for us, I see its a tag not a forum, but its something.
How we add the tag? I'm in advanced editor, don't see any way to add a tag?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2
Thanks to @jinkerz9430 for voting up for us to get our own forum.
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Yes its not yet got all the structure yet but its a step in right direction, as per my forum request the UB and UB2 are very different.
I can't seem to subscribe to it.
nigelhealy said:
Yes its not yet got all the structure yet but its a step in right direction, as per my forum request the UB and UB2 are very different.
I can't seem to subscribe to it.
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I see they havent even created a normal forum. i mean when you click on all forums, you see all the devices that has independent forums. Yet when you use the find function in chrome or firefox to type urbane, it just appear urbane and not the urbane 2nd edition . So... for the time being, it is recommended to save it as a bookmark for fast accessing.
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Is not an exact forum but it is way better than having all on the 1st edition urbane forum. So yeah. Cheers lol. Nevertheless, my watch will arrive in 3 days however, i see there is no root for it. Although, i dont think that rooting a smartwatch is actually necessary, and even less if one uses android pay (since android pay requires an unrooted device)
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Thanks, now I look again it is not a forum, it is a tag, and I can't see how to tag
jinkerz9430 said:
I see they havent even created a normal forum. i mean when you click on all forums, you see all the devices that has independent forums. Yet when you use the find function in chrome or firefox to type urbane, it just appear urbane and not the urbane 2nd edition . So... for the time being, it is recommended to save it as a bookmark for fast accessing.
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now I look further its actually a step sideways, there's a thread which is useful to Huawei watch owners of ported watchfaces from the UB2 so a UB2 owner wouldnt be interested. So the tag is misleading.
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Thanks, now I look again it is not a forum, it is a tag, and I can't see how to tag
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when you are creating a new thread, you are always given the function to tag . its usually found on the lower left corner somewhere.
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now I look further its actually a step sideways, there's a thread which is useful to Huawei watch owners of ported watchfaces from the UB2 so a UB2 owner wouldnt be interested. So the tag is misleading.
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by the way, werent they going to release the final version of AW2.0 for the UB2? i thought it was at the beginning of may, but we are almost half way trough already
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by the way, werent they going to release the final version of AW2.0 for the UB2? i thought it was at the beginning of may, but we are almost half way trough already
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Google said late April to late May
"Watches that will receive Android Wear 2.0 end of April/late May - OTA starts end of April/beginning of May for some manufacturers throughout multiple weeks. Timelines differ per watch and manufacturer."
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From my experiementation with AW2 DP on UB2, I'd say the later the better, its buggy and battery drain, so let the "lucky" earlier AW devices shake out bugs I'd say. I downloaded the current AW1.5 just in case I upgraded too early so I can go back. In my case AW2 DP rendered the UB2 unusable at times, so later = fewer bugs + optimized.
This is silly, the Apple Watch is wiping the floor with AW, app support is better, battery life is better, Google it looking more of a joke each year with those expensive Pixel phones. Some people who really want a wearable are so prefering Apple Watch it making them switch to iphone, Yep google, you made a product so bad it drives people to your competitor, way to go google, way to go....
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Google said late April to late May
From my experiementation with AW2 DP on UB2, I'd say the later the better, its buggy and battery drain, so let the "lucky" earlier AW devices shake out bugs I'd say. I downloaded the current AW1.5 just in case I upgraded too early so I can go back. In my case AW2 rendered the UB2 unusable at times.
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so.. so far the best version is 1.5 for UB2?
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so.. so far the best version is 1.5 for UB2?
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So I've had my UB2 now for a few weeks, and I deliberately tried to push its limits, so I then know its limits and now work within its limits.
The fundamental problem is battery life, if you use it tethered to the phone, in BT distance mostly or the odd fallback to Wifi, then battery is good, I see a slow drain say 2%/hour for just notification filtering. If you try to use the UB2 AW2 capability to be a truly standalone mini-phone on your wrist, then battery life stinks, I was get 25%/hour. I played with the likes of the onscreen keyboard, the Play Store, but there were very few apps built for AW2, even the claimed Uber app had disappeared. Using it as a phone for talking, about 50%/hour battery drain and in my case it overheated and hung up the call!
The FAQ and the "support" from Google is terrible, you see they basically suggest resetting the watch as an answer to a problem and there are plenty of users complaining and its not even rolled out to that many yet.
The Apple Watch and the Samsung Gear S3 proves you get a decent product, just Google hasn't yet.
I've owned AW now for over 2 years, I have the Sony SmartWatch 3, it was doing good when I got it, then they did updates which enabled Wifi and it was really buggy battery draining for a couple of updates, now it is very good. So I'm thinking let the masses be suffered by AW2 and version 2.02 (whatever it is called) is the time to jump.
I bought my UB2 because its going to get AW2 and its only $180 or so, and so half the price of the LG Watch Sport which on paper looks extremely similar specs to the UB2.
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So I've had my UB2 now for a few weeks, and I deliberately tried to push its limits, so I then know its limits and now work within its limits.
The fundamental problem is battery life, if you use it tethered to the phone, in BT distance mostly or the odd fallback to Wifi, then battery is good, I see a slow drain say 2%/hour for just notification filtering. If you try to use the UB2 AW2 capability to be a truly standalone mini-phone on your wrist, then battery life stinks, I was get 25%/hour. I played with the likes of the onscreen keyboard, the Play Store, but there were very few apps built for AW2, even the claimed Uber app had disappeared. Using it as a phone for talking, about 50%/hour battery drain and in my case it overheated and hung up the call!
The FAQ and the "support" from Google is terrible, you see they basically suggest resetting the watch as an answer to a problem and there are plenty of users complaining and its not even rolled out to that many yet.
The Apple Watch and the Samsung Gear S3 proves you get a decent product, just Google hasn't yet.
I've owned AW now for over 2 years, I have the Sony SmartWatch 3, it was doing good when I got it, then they did updates which enabled Wifi and it was really buggy battery draining for a couple of updates, now it is very good. So I'm thinking let the masses be suffered by AW2 and version 2.02 (whatever it is called) is the time to jump.
I bought my UB2 because its going to get AW2 and its only $180 or so, and so half the price of the LG Watch Sport which on paper looks extremely similar specs to the UB2.
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But which version gave you the best battery life?
I'm not sure I could conclude, when on AW2 I was experimenting.
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After some messing about on-line I was intrigued to find this video review of something that "looked" similar to the Galaxy note.
Obviously its not the real thing as you and I are well aware but it prompted me to do some more researching.
After a few nights of checking out the different versions of the "clone" I decided to bite the bullet and buy one to play about with.
Now I don't know much about Android phones and was hoping someone might be able to give me some advice as to exactly what this phone is capable of in terms of using the android marketplace and installing generic android apps.
I am a little unsure of some of the screens. It shows that it has Android Version 4.0.3 - Does that mean it has ICS already installed?
The other thing I was wondering is whether or not there are any custom roms that will do away with some of the China/Far East apps/languages that this thing will be able to run?
I have attached some pics and also the pics that I was sent in .rar files from the supplier..
**I understand that this is not the real deal so anyone who feels like having a nice flaming session then rant away. My questions are genuine in the hope to learn something..
Cheers
It's probably the cheapest hardware around in that. Don't expect any smoothness and it's on the completely opposite end of the phone spectrum from the Note. Doubt there are any custom ROM for it as well, but it probably runs many apps from Play.
I don't know why you would waste money on it, unless you try to look cool by pretending you have a genuine Note. It's a bit like walking around with a fake Rolex.
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Yea for sure I know what you're saying. I know someone with a fake rolex. He has had it for many many years. It still even tells the right time
I in no way purchased it to "pretend" to have the real deal. I have an iphone already and this was more something to play around with.
I like the "open source" side to it and with my Linux background and Programming and coding firmware for Satellite TV Receivers It took my fancy as its not locked down as badly as an I-Phone.
I guess from reading a bit more I would have do dump the firmware that is already on the phone and decompile it and figure out how to edit it to my own needs and then re-flash.
Hell, for £130 if it keeps me amused and out of mischief for a few months then its money well spent.
I would rather learn on something that costs a LOAD less. Once I am familiar with the whole system structure, Tools, Terms, Apps, etc etc I will probably buy the real deal.
Take Care..
I was thinking of buying one. Are they good? Where did you buy yours? The white one looks nice.
KonnyLo said:
I was thinking of buying one. Are they good? Where did you buy yours? The white one looks nice.
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hi mate, when it arrives I will let you know!
still beats the dell streak lol
not bad for a fake phone imo, anyone who wants a big screen on a budget could use it.
Hey I woudn't mind using this over my (screen-plagued issues) Gnote..
This phone easily beats the features of the real mccoy.
I wonder how would Sammy feel that a run of the mill cheapo phone like this has their branded logo emblazoned on it?
Watching the video mesmerized me on the myriad capabilities this knockoff can offer.
Also great music, it 'tranced' me while watching the phone's features...
Cheers!
Does it run real ICS ?
There are fake Chinese 'iFones' in the market which certainly don't have IOS.
He says in the video it runs Gingerbread which would also explain the GB in the build number.
For 130 pounds I guess it's a pretty decent phone. It has a pretty slow single core CPU and a relatively low resolution for such a big screen but in the end you get what you pay for. I'm sure it's a nice toy to play around with and for a first Android experience you could do a lot worse but since I first used my Note I'll never settle for anything less anymore
Because these types of phones are never meant for international sales I doubt there will be any viable custom roms anytime soon and I think you can forget about official updates but even stock Gingerbread is a very decent OS. You'll miss out on a big part of the 'openness' of Android though.
Once you decide to get the real deal you'll be amazed at what the real Note is actually capable of.
I guess it has 800x480 res which gives you pixels like golf balls with a 5.3" screen. That's so extremely far from the Note hi res experience...
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Zamboney said:
I guess it has 800x480 res which gives you pixels like golf balls with a 5.3" screen. That's so extremely far from the Note hi res experience...
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screen is 5"
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In the movie the guy says "it's got a 5.3 inch 5-point multi-touch screen".
That's another difference from the real Note, only being able to detect a maximum of 5 touch points. The Note detects at least 10. Nothing to be concerned about I think, I've never used more than 3 fingers at the same time.
bioweb said:
In the movie the guy says "it's got a 5.3 inch 5-point multi-touch screen".
That's another difference from the real Note, only being able to detect a maximum of 5 touch points. The Note detects at least 10. Nothing to be concerned about I think, I've never used more than 3 fingers at the same time.
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Ah okay cool cool. I think in the vid he says 5.3 but on his blog, he later corrects it.
Good that you mention about the 5 touch points. I wondered what he was doing when he touched the screen like that.
How and why would you use more then 5 fingers at one time anyway? Still pretty cool that the "real" note can do 10.
bioweb said:
He says in the video it runs Gingerbread which would also explain the GB in the build number.
For 130 pounds I guess it's a pretty decent phone. It has a pretty slow single core CPU and a relatively low resolution for such a big screen but in the end you get what you pay for. I'm sure it's a nice toy to play around with and for a first Android experience you could do a lot worse but since I first used my Note I'll never settle for anything less anymore
Because these types of phones are never meant for international sales I doubt there will be any viable custom roms anytime soon and I think you can forget about official updates but even stock Gingerbread is a very decent OS. You'll miss out on a big part of the 'openness' of Android though.
Once you decide to get the real deal you'll be amazed at what the real Note is actually capable of.
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Ah okay. I am already mooching about for legit ones and there seems to be a good deal on the Real Note from amazon.de for about £350
I am actually quite looking forward for the fake one to arrive to see what its like. When I spoke to the seller, he said it came with some Legit Sammy software so who knows what that's for..
Looks like it Left Guangzhou on Friday so I expect it to be here sometime before the end of this week.
I think spythedude is aware of the fact this phone doesn't come anywhere near the specifications of the real Note. Everything about the phone screams FAKE!!! But still, for 130 pounds I think it's a pretty decent device given it's large capacitive screen. I can't think of any Android phone getting anywhere near such screen size for 130 pounds. It won't be the fastest phone around but there used to be Android phones with even worse hardware that still gave a good user experience.
@spythedude >> If you want, please let us know what you think of the device when you receive it, I'm really curious about it.
Arobase40 said:
Then I mostly emphasized about Colonel Zap reviewer and Fastcardtech fraud, as this is indeed a real fraud when mixing up Samsung product images during unboxing with this so called clone.
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Hi
I didn't mix up any pictures, I'm showing in my video exactly what I received when I ordered it. I have the FEELING (and I don't know this) that the box it came in might actually be an original box but of course it could be a fake as well. The phone definitely is NOT made by Samsung and whatever specs I mention in the video, I did so to the best of my knowledge.
I'm not trying too "fool" anyone, I'm just reporting about a phone, trying to show people how a device like this operates, that's it!
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@spythedude >> If you want, please let us know what you think of the device when you receive it, I'm really curious about it.
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Hi mate, yea for sure. I'll try and do my best to give an accurate feedback and as much info as possible.
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I don't know what the laws say about such a "promotion" in your own country,
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I'm not promoting or selling anything. I just make videos of the phones and tablets that I order from China, giving who ever might be interested in these devices "the heads up" what the devices are all about.
I couldn't care less if some likes a particular device or not and/or orders one of them from whatever online store
I've been reviewing phone and tables for years now, some are "fakes", some are not and so far my videos have been very much appreciated by the majority of my viewers
If you don't like my videos, don't watch them. If you don't like the device, don't buy it But please don't accuse me of mixing things up to fool anyone, I've never done that and I never will.
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I'm not promoting or selling anything. I just make videos of the phones and tablets that I order from China, giving who ever might be interested in these devices "the heads up" what the devices are all about.
I couldn't care less if some likes a particular device or not and/or orders one of them from whatever online store
I've been reviewing phone and tables for years now, some are "fakes", some are not and so far my videos have been very much appreciated by the majority of my viewers
If you don't like my videos, don't watch them. If you don't like the device, don't buy it But please don't accuse me of mixing things up to fool anyone, I've never done that and I never will.
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ColonelZap, don't worry buddy. When people sit on a high horse its difficult to see things properly or for what it is.
I appreciate and really enjoy your site for checking things out and I am sure others do too.. You will always get a small percentage of people who like to cry about things they don't agree with or understand.
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I have been looking into this because my phone is a blackberry and is not really working out for me... so when you get the phone, woud you mind making a video showing how fast is temple run and other such games, also please do a camera video test
exxtremechris said:
I have been looking into this because my phone is a blackberry and is not really working out for me... so when you get the phone, woud you mind making a video showing how fast is temple run and other such games, also please do a camera video test
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Oh okay cool.. I'll do my best. I don't really play games but I'll have a go
Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
yzf750 said:
Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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I don't really get where people find the time and energy to post like this. Get a refund and move on with your life, already.
The galaxy gear is awesome (and so is the pebble, the sony smartwatch, etc. Can't wait to see what Google and Apple do)
Samsung has really knocked this out of the park and showed us the potential of wearables - probably better than anyone - and how they're so obviously going to be the future.
Samsung has been innovating incredibly well lately. I really hope Microsoft/Google/Apple up their game and keep up!
Well...it is indeed lacking a lot of features that should be there right out of the box but I am sure you have done your research before you bought the watch. I did do my research and I am quite happy with the watch. I wouldn't buy it at $300 but at $210 with tmobile discount 30% off, this is not a bad buy at all.
I never once had a problem with installing apps from Samsung app store. Their selection is really small and apps are not that great but it never hang or fail to install for me. You can also sideload apps as long as they don't require access to internet if you don't mind some extra steps of installing.
Reading email would be a nice thing but I don't see myself using the tiny screen to read email. I would rather want to do it on the phone.
Facebook update sure would be nice.
Never lock up 4 times a day but then I don't use watch styler app or custom face.
Also please try the ATN app. It helps with all the notifications that I need the watch to show such as whatsapp and whatever others app you might need.
Could it be better ? Sure. Will it get better? Of coarse it will !
There's nothing BETA about it, its simply a new consumer product which hasn't boomed yet.. once the developers gain interest you can bet your ass your going to see some amazing stuff from the gear.
Anything Samsung related on the watch works extremely well, could they have included additional features sure. But why would they ? Its a Samsung device providing support with Samsung products/applications straight out of the box.
All the things listed can be easily resolved via software updates, or third party software. Eg. ATN.
Any complaint you have about the gear will have the same complaubt about the new sony smart watch. Its new. Do your homework before you buy something.
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Eh, I love mine (got the 30% off deal) but I agree with the OP and am disappointed with the small amount of apps in the Samsung store... and at least half of it is junk. A big reason for that is because Samsung is being weird about releasing the SDK to the public, I wish they'd get on with that soon. Though I think (I hope) the situation will get a lot better soon when they release official updates for S3, S4, Note2 to make them compatible with the Gear.
I have to disagree with the OP. The gear is amazing. I don't have problems installing apps and I think some of them are pretty good like watch styler. The only thing I don't like about the gear is that it doesn't show notifications for third party apps and I hope Samsung releases an update enabling notifications for all apps.
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The Galaxy Gear is ready for Prime Time.
I love my Gear.
Has all the Apps I want.
Anybody that takes the time to find this forum should know,
You do not have to get all the Apps from the Samsung Store.
A member of XDA has a solution for notifications, many people use it and like it.
Do not know about facebook, could care less about facebook.
Sounds like the OP thinks the device replaces a smartphone,
A smartwatch tells you at a glance if the message you get is worth pulling your smartphone out.
Who other than the OP, has every had any problems with the Gear Locking up?
Who other than the OP can not find a way to tell time with the Gear?
AstroDigital said:
The Galaxy Gear is ready for Prime Time.
I love my Gear.
Has all the Apps I want.
I agree
Anybody that takes the time to find this forum should know,
You do not have to get all the Apps from the Samsung Store.
I agree
A member of XDA has a solution for notifications, many people use it and like it.
Do not know about facebook, could care less about facebook.
That app doesn't work for me, but I really don't care.
Sounds like the OP thinks the device replaces a smartphone,
A smartwatch tells you at a glance if the message you get is worth pulling your smartphone out.
I agree
Who other than the OP, has every had any problems with the Gear Locking up?
Who other than the OP can not find a way to tell time with the Gear?
I had locking up problems until I stopped using the buggy lockstyler app
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I LOVE my gear watch
For me SVoice/Phone integration/Camera is what makes this watch, and also of course the notifications. Really don't care about apps (Although Tripit, Evernote and MyFitnessPal are nice).
It's like google glass on your wrist!
eing able to reply to messages by voice from my wrist in the car is awesome. I never hear anyone talk about these great features when they are griping about the watch.
Hi . that's a shame you are disappointed.What colour did you get.
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Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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I think we can see from this earlier post this persons position
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Well lets see....
Cant even hear a call unless your in a quiet room
Cant reply to a txt with s voice unless its dead silent or s voice gets it wrong
Facebook app turns your phone settings so it speaks every stupid thing its doing
watch making app STILL locks up daily your clock
every other day updates to gear manager trying to fix something without a update list to give you a clue
installing apps hang alot
some dont work or give you just a blank watch face when you try to open them
Guess all the posts in the gear forum are made up
I quit flashing roms and tinkering since my HTC MDA days, I just want a product that works out of the box I guess
Every review is the same.. so so on it. Return rate is high also. The few that love them, great, tinker away with yours. When I can read my 3rd party apps emails, pick from 100s and 100s of apps maybe Ill dig it. Till then its a beta toy as far as im concerned. i knew it when i got it just didnt expect it to be this crappy I guess.
I'd like to know how many of the returned watches are due to either people not usually wearing a watch or because it wasn't compatible with their device
I've not had any of the problems mentioned here (mind, I didn't use watchstyler). Mic and speaker seem fine to me
Hardly any apps these days mention what has changed between versions so can't see that being a negative. Having to reset every time there is an update sucks though (however, the restore thing seems to go ok for the most part)
I just want my notifications to give more detail - mms to show pic, email to display html, sms/facebook/etc not be limited by character limit. It's all very possible going on the evidence
Couldn't care less about apps. Good to be able to sideload though
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Hi . that's a shame you are disappointed.What colour did you get.
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I think we can see from this earlier post this persons position
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Even thinking all that you still went out and bought one.
I love mine.
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yzf750 said:
Well lets see....
Cant even hear a call unless your in a quiet room
your watch must be faulty mines loud enough
Cant reply to a txt with s voice unless its dead silent or s voice gets it wrong
I use tablet talk and Google keyboard to reply
Facebook app turns your phone settings so it speaks every stupid thing its doing
this will be sorted with an update I use dolphin browser and no problem with talk
watch making app STILL locks up daily your clock
no lock ups here
every other day updates to gear manager trying to fix something without a update list to give you a clue
at least they are fixing things and not ignoring us
installing apps hang alot
some dont work or give you just a blank watch face when you try to open them
you must have faulty watch. . return it
the 30% who returned will buy again when new software comes out , Samsung will do lots of new things once it's compatible with all device . It's a clever divide I love it
if you have no friends and no one calls or text you and don't like taking quick pics is probly not for you
Guess all the posts in the gear forum are made up
I quit flashing roms and tinkering since my HTC MDA days, I just want a product that works out of the box I guess
Every review is the same.. so so on it. Return rate is high also. The few that love them, great, tinker away with yours. When I can read my 3rd party apps emails, pick from 100s and 100s of apps maybe Ill dig it. Till then its a beta toy as far as im concerned. i knew it when i got it just didnt expect it to be this crappy I guess.
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mhoepfin said:
For me SVoice/Phone integration/Camera is what makes this watch, and also of course the notifications. Really don't care about apps (Although Tripit, Evernote and MyFitnessPal are nice).
It's like google glass on your wrist!
eing able to reply to messages by voice from my wrist in the car is awesome. I never hear anyone talk about these great features when they are griping about the watch.
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I'm loving my gear but can also appreciate where the OP is coming from. In the main I think the gear lives up to its expectations ax far as I am concerned.
The biggest issue I have is the lack of water resistance, and how it handles facebook notifications. I am hoping though that this thing gets better as time moves along. It does worry me however that work on the Gear 2 will already have started and we will end up with a non supported device quite quickly.
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I'm loving my gear but can also appreciate where the OP is coming from. In the main I think the gear lives up to its expectations ax far as I am concerned.
The biggest issue I have is the lack of water resistance, and how it handles facebook notifications. I am hoping though that this thing gets better as time moves along. It does worry me however that work on the Gear 2 will already have started and we will end up with a non supported device quite quickly.
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The op in my opinion just wants to rubbish the gear in anyway possible whether it's true or not
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you have to be blind to call Gear a decent product. they had a great idea, but the execution is terrible and you may disagree with that, but you are lying to yourself. this needs so much work to become a decent product.
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Pretty disappointed after picking up my gear last week. I'm going to give it a month before I dump mine for sale if they don't start putting out useful apps for it. Seems like half the stuff is pushed out with bugs and semi working or not working at all. Half the apps in the store (gee there really isn't much) hang on install, fail to work correctly or are just junk that you don't need. Is it really that hard to offer an app that would let you read your full email body on it, or an app that would give you facebook updates on it without reading them on the phone, or a watch making app that actually tells time and doesn't lock up 4 times a day? Samsung should just change its name to the Galaxy gear beta edition. I understand the 30% return rate on them now after owning one.
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After reading your post, I had to REGISTER to reply.. :fingers-crossed:
Seems like you got a beef with the apps. Not the phone. You keep talking about bad apps, or not enough apps. Well they were selling out in my area, and I got mine on discount. Found out they were selling fast on Ebay. Purchased a couple more at discount, sold them for a profit. It seems like a lot of people think differently than you. We all understand this is a FIRST, you didn't expect this to first run to be PERFECT did you...
BTW, I am a layman, don't know JACK-CHIT, to be honest. I got the Note 3 on a humble, and since I was way over my head with the Note 3, I might as well go all the way..Got the Gear at $209.. Happy Camper...
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you have to be blind to call Gear a decent product. they had a great idea, but the execution is terrible and you may disagree with that, but you are lying to yourself. this needs so much work to become a decent product.
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There must be a lot of BLIND PEOPLE out there. They were selling like hot cakes at BB, and other stores..:laugh:
when you search the internet the Galaxy Gear gets bad press and its nuts, I was a little put off buying one at the start but decided yesterday to spend the cash as I am in Brisbane Australia for 3 weeks of training then back to NZ, I when I first brought my gear (yesterday) went to try some notifications and thought what the hell Samsung why would I want a notification that means I then had to open my phone.......... now think about this
Samsung is NOT some back yard designer/manufacture but a multi discipline very very big company, did you know they build heavy Industries?
So now we know Samsung is a very clever bunch of people... why would they sell a product with such a negative response from the public?
My answer to this came today when I upgraded my Gear to the latest firmware version and suddenly ALL the things we wanted were present, think about this.... how hard was it for Samsung to add this extra features? SIMPLE... so why release it without it?
NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS THE CLUE
If you think about the amount of coverage this has given Samsung in a very short time well....... and they fix it with a simple update? perfect marketing!!
Oh and im very happy with my gear including the price, it will exponentially improve over the next few months
Also look at the thread count and posts in the smart watch section, another thing you see comments out there stating its useless without a phone.... well yes you need to do the initial setup, but its got a built in clock, when you turn off your phone, or flatten it...it still keeps time
samsung is great at making hardware, but i can't think of any part of the software that i really appreciate. i would love if they just stick to releasing new devices itself running pure android.
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samsung is great at making hardware, but i can't think of any part of the software that i really appreciate. i would love if they just stick to releasing new devices itself running pure android.
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yes I can agree with that, its better to be an open market for this sort of thing
Samsung with the latest update is wayyyy ahead of sony smartwatch witch is on the 3th generation. They launched the gear without some of the improuvments because they WANTED baddly to be the first, before Apple. What i don't understand is why samsung is not sending again the gear to be reevaluate by tech media after the last update.
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samsung was in a rush to release the watch so they can paten so apple wont sue them
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Samsung with the latest update is wayyyy ahead of sony smartwatch witch is on the 3th generation. They launched the gear without some of the improuvments because they WANTED baddly to be the first, before Apple. What i don't understand is why samsung is not sending again the gear to be reevaluate by tech media after the last update.
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because they dont need to, they will let the internet just flow into it.......
for a moment there I thought you were going to refer to some sort of flash light using the gear hahaha.
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when you search the internet the Galaxy Gear gets bad press and its nuts, I was a little put off buying one at the start but decided yesterday to spend the cash as I am in Brisbane Australia for 3 weeks of training then back to NZ, I when I first brought my gear (yesterday) went to try some notifications and thought what the hell Samsung why would I want a notification that means I then had to open my phone.......... now think about this
Samsung is NOT some back yard designer/manufacture but a multi discipline very very big company, did you know they build heavy Industries?
So now we know Samsung is a very clever bunch of people... why would they sell a product with such a negative response from the public?
My answer to this came today when I upgraded my Gear to the latest firmware version and suddenly ALL the things we wanted were present, think about this.... how hard was it for Samsung to add this extra features? SIMPLE... so why release it without it?
NEGATIVE ADVERTISING IS THE CLUE
If you think about the amount of coverage this has given Samsung in a very short time well....... and they fix it with a simple update? perfect marketing!!
Oh and im very happy with my gear including the price, it will exponentially improve over the next few months
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Also, the negative publicity because of the non-availability of key features on a device that's hardware specs should allow, makes developers naturally want to get their hands on it and fix these problems, then what does Samsung have, a bigger developer following to help enhance this newer device form factor so they can be the first on the front lines with the most development, so they can set themselves as the main smart watch manufacture, so they can control more of the market, in short, they peoples at the Samsung do da business sneaky and outs o dey own greed like a de apple butt-a-heads (but not nearly as selfish and unconcerned about the true advancement of technology as the advancement of their own wallet) Lolz on rants but it's true.
Mate please learn to spell and write properly
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Some thoughts going into my second day of use with my new Urbane.
•Battery life is actually pretty good. I took it off charge at 7:30am and it's currently at 72%. The Android Wear app on my phone is telling me I have 12 hours of use left after playing with it a fair bit this morning. It should improve even more as the watch 'wears in'.
•Notifications come in pretty much instantly from my phone. It's frustrating in some regards though - you can't always see images sent to you from Facebook Messenger, sometimes you can. Also, once you dismiss a notification from your watch it's gone for good - you then have to check your phone to see what it was. Having said that, it does give you a very brief period after dismissing it to 'undo' the dismissal, but it's very brief. It would be better if it could archive say the last 5 notifications for you to go and look at after you've dismissed them.
•WiFi seems a bit buggy, for instance when connected to my home network and I turn off bluetooth on my phone or go out of it's range, WiFi does seem to take over but Google Now refuses to work. If I set up WiFi tethering on my phone (and disable bluetooth) it works perfectly so I guess it's just my router - though I don't know what I would need to change to make it work.
•Also (and this is a biggy), don't assume that because the Urbane has WiFi you can just simply log onto any network without your phone being around. This is not the case. Inexplicably, you need to log onto any WiFi network using the Android Wear app on your phone otherwise the Urbane will never use it. There is simply no way to log onto a WiFi network using just the Urbane. Once you've logged on using the phone, the Urbane will then remember the log on information from that point on. This to me defeats the purpose of having WiFi enabled on the watch, you should be able to log on anywhere without the phone..
•The Urbane has difficulty in recognising my 'OK Google' command. Commands issued after that are no problem however. The Urbane gives you the option at set up to choose between US or UK English, but for me that ,made no difference in whether the watch recognised my initial command or not (and you have to factory reset the device to change language...). I did however after some searching online see that after the Urbane is set up properly, it will look at your phones native language and base the information it gives, as well as spelling and metrics on that language. This doesn't help in recognising my initial command, and either my Aussie accent is just too 'Aussie' or the 'OK Google' command recognition is a bit buggy. Perhaps a bit of both lol.
•As someone who takes their watch off as soon as I get home, it's functionality is useless to me after that - unless I go out somewhere and put it back on. I guess at home you'd usually fall back to using your smart phone/tablet anyway. It does feel odd though to discard a $400 smart device like that..
•Heart rate monitoring is good, as is the other fitness tracking the watch does. However, there is two monitoring apps on the device that measure heart rate, Google Fit and and LG Pulse. When you first ask the watch "What's my heart rate", it will give you the choice of choosing which app to use. The problem is, whatever app you choose becomes the default app after that and there is no way to change that as far as I can see.
•Playing with the different watch faces is fun. LG ships the Urbane with 18 different faces to chose from, in various styles. And of course there is a rapidly growing number of user created choices out there as well. Some faces can be a bit buggy but for the most part they are gorgeous or garish, and anywhere in between. It's fantastic to have so many choices.
The biggest issue for me is still the perceived value of owning a smart watch such as this. After playing with it for a day, my thoughts have not changed in this regard.
It's still firmly in the luxury/novelty category at the moment, and I certainly do not need to have it. Is the Urbane worth the price I paid? From a purely technical stand point, probably. The Gorilla glassed OLED display is beautiful, the stainless steel body and overall craftsmanship looks and feels like something the Japanese would make, and the technical mastery of it all as a package feels like a bit of a leap forward, particularly considering where smart watches were a year ago.
But the software is not of the same level, and has a long way to go to really match where the hardware already is. It sort of like having Windows XP running on a 2015 5K iMac - there is a mismatch between software and hardware.
The upside is that Google can, and I'm sure will, improve the software as time goes on. The launch of the Apple Watch ensures that Google will treat Android Wear very, very seriously indeed. And that can only be good for the Urbane.
From a personal standpoint, the Urbane in it's current state is not worth what I paid for it. I would argue even the GWR is still about $100 too high. Do I have buyers remorse? To a degree I guess, but I can see the potential of this device, it can be so much more. The hardware is begging for a heart and soul, and a reason to exist.
I will keep it, and see where it takes me. Being an early adopter and gadget freak in general means that you have to take risks when jumping into and investing in a new product (hello OUYA, yes I got that too at launch lol), that's part of the thrill. Gadgets are a hobby, and a hobby is not worth having if you can't indulge in it every now and then. And obviously I am not alone in investing in the Urbane and Android Wear in general, which makes me feel a bit better.
Anyway, I hope I've given people reading this a bit more clarity in forming your own opinion of the Urbane/GWR. My advice? I would just go for it if you're anything like me, but maybe start off with the GWR.
TLDR, Urbane is an impressive, if slightly flawed device that should get better with time.
Regarding Voice recognition of "OK Google", I'm also struggling with this. It is nowhere near as good as my LG G Watch (square) was, that worked well 90% of the time. The urbane seems to be closer to 30%, and is really annoying me. I'm an aussie too but I'm not necessarily convinced our accents are causing the issue as I swapped straight from my G Watch to the Urbane and noticed problems straight away.
Regarding the default app for heart rate (and others) - to change it go into android wear app on your phone, hit the settings icon, choose your watch (LG Watch Urbane) and there will be an option for "actions" . In the you can reassign default actions.
Dwayne
Thanks for that fix mate!
I find if you lift your arm and wait 1 second before saying "ok google" it works perfect 99.9% of the time.
WOW you're actually right!
An observation of the hardware in general is that these watches are simply too bulky and much more so than they need to be in most cases. Getting the lugs up against the case on this particular watch would have made a huge difference by itself not just in reducing the bulk but the band or bracelet then fits better because it has more "grasp" area allowing for a grippier (if you will) fit for a given level of tightness. In other words the watch can grip better while being looser making it more comfortable to wear. Another... the killer feature these watches need is the ability to mimic a real watch face better and one way to get there is a convincing 3D effect for the screen. It doesn't have to be perfect and of course it couldn't be a battery killer but these smart watches need it. Right now people have some pretty nice stuff out there and I'm in no way taking a shot at some of those efforts which are outstanding work but they cant be convincing without a better screen tech.
Having these two things would move these watches from "what can it do for me" territory into wearing them because of what they can do for you but also just because you flat want to because the damn thing looks nice. Right now its a tool that I toss on the dresser as soon as I'm done with it and the few I know real world with one and most of what I read on the internet implies this is typical. They want to sell these things in a bigger way they need to make them something people wear because they want to because the use case isn't all that great for most people and I don't think having worn one for a while that this will change much because the window between utilizing the watch and it being easier to pull the phone is fairly small.
Keep in mind these are my opinions, I'm curious what other users think about the direction smart watches should be or need to be taking.
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An observation of the hardware in general is that these watches are simply too bulky and much more so than they need to be in most cases. Getting the lugs up against the case on this particular watch would have made a huge difference by itself not just in reducing the bulk but the band or bracelet then fits better because it has more "grasp" area allowing for a grippier (if you will) fit for a given level of tightness. In other words the watch can grip better while being looser making it more comfortable to wear. Another... the killer feature these watches need is the ability to mimic a real watch face better and one way to get there is a convincing 3D effect for the screen. It doesn't have to be perfect and of course it couldn't be a battery killer but these smart watches need it. Right now people have some pretty nice stuff out there and I'm in no way taking a shot at some of those efforts which are outstanding work but they cant be convincing without a better screen tech.
Having these two things would move these watches from "what can it do for me" territory into wearing them because of what they can do for you but also just because you flat want to because the damn thing looks nice. Right now its a tool that I toss on the dresser as soon as I'm done with it and the few I know real world with one and most of what I read on the internet implies this is typical. They want to sell these things in a bigger way they need to make them something people wear because they want to because the use case isn't all that great for most people and I don't think having worn one for a while that this will change much because the window between utilizing the watch and it being easier to pull the phone is fairly small.
Keep in mind these are my opinions, I'm curious what other users think about the direction smart watches should be or need to be taking.
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I totally disagree. Have you seen panerai? Hublot? Breitling???? They are all big. Its whats in style, and has been for years.
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Thanks for that fix mate!
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Nice to read your thoughts on it I agree with 99% of it the only thing I would like to see is with Google now be nice to take a breath as you text lol
suzook said:
I totally disagree. Have you seen panerai? Hublot? Breitling???? They are all big. Its whats in style, and has been for years.
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lol Yes, I'm a watch person and own a number of them, surf the forums, etc. I'm guessing I've explained poorly. Its not the size itself so much as the needless bulk. I have several watches that have a face the same size but are quite a bit less bulky. This watch is a prime example with its needlessly large lugs and large bezel around the screen. It has confused no one as to what it is and I would never put it on in place of my real watches which I wear because I like them.
As to watch size in general a lot of people have never made friends with the large watch style, I'm among them. For me 40 to 42 mm is about right and I know a whole bunch of people with the same opinion. That is of course an opinion and I'm old enough to know that they vary and I do of agree that this style is popular right now but the trend is already reversing somewhat. Not surprising really, most people look like crap with a 48 mm saucer on their wrist because they simply are not possessed of the wrist size to put the watch into proportion.and my guess is the truly huge watches are going to continue going away bit by bit leaving the more reasonable 44ish mm sizing as the typical large watch with the larger stuff being outliers. At any rate it isn't just me, most of the reviews talk about the size issue with smart watches in general and particularly with this one where the added bulk particularly at the lugs hasn't been well received.
I take it you feel the size is fine then? You don't think that they might move more of these if they could move to a better and more convincing screen tech?
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I take it you feel the size is fine then? You don't think that they might move more of these if they could move to a better and more convincing screen tech?
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Yes, i do love the size. I actually love the screen, Im not sure what you mean? I get compliments constantly. Alot of people ask what kind of watch is that??
Got mine today. Can't work out how to get lg health app to show heart rate data from the urbane. It's meant to appear automatically.
i hate you can't control how long the screen stay on..sometimes I need to time things with second hand...just so frustrating!!
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i hate you can't control how long the screen stay on..sometimes I need to time things with second hand...just so frustrating!!
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There are some watch faces that do allow you to change this setting (timeout) usually in the android wear app on the paired device. There is also a stopwatch app built in.
This app (StayLit Wear) on google playworks for me
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There are some watch faces that do allow you to change this setting (timeout) usually in the android wear app on the paired device. There is also a stopwatch app built in.
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This^
And /or this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phonephreak.extendedlight
My first impressions so far
part 1 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/09/lg-watch-urbane-beauty-and-disaster-first-impressions/
part 2 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/10/lg-watch-urbane-part-2/
gavinfabl said:
My first impressions so far
part 1 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/09/lg-watch-urbane-beauty-and-disaster-first-impressions/
part 2 - http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/10/lg-watch-urbane-part-2/
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Are you using FaceRepo with Watchmaker? Browse the website with your connected phone, and download the faces directly to the app. It's easy to customize the faces from there...
http://facerepo.com/
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Are you using FaceRepo with Watchmaker? Browse the website with your connected phone, and download the faces directly to the app. It's easy to customize the faces from there...
http://facerepo.com/
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Yes I am now, thanks.
I say "ok google" -> it works (but slowly)-> I ask smth or say "set a reminder" and %50 chance it works for a while (slooowly) and says "offline" -> I get crazy. But if I use google now on the phone everything is smooth as butter. Am I doing something wrong? / Is the watch faulty? / Is the bt connection too slow for spoken commands? / Or what?
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I say "ok google" -> it works (but slowly)-> I ask smth or say "set a reminder" and %50 chance it works for a while (slooowly) and says "offline" -> I get crazy. But if I use google now on the phone everything is smooth as butter. Am I doing something wrong? / Is the watch faulty? / Is the bt connection too slow for spoken commands? / Or what?
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Speed can vary. I find just say OK Google and wait for the speak now part. Say what you want in one go, no pauses and it works 8/10.
I photographed all my watch faces on the watch to give everyone a better idea of what they look like, and created a gallery.
Google Photos then made a GIF of them lol
http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/06/15/lg-watch-urbane-my-watch-faces-shown-photographed-gallery/
@interfreak and others - thanks for your input, it has been very helpful! (I'm in for one, will be delivered tomorrow)
The rest of world can do blood pressure stuff with the watch 4 & 5, but not the US. I hear it was a FDA regulations issue that was blocking things got sorted out. Any solid info or rumors on when an official release to make it work? I've seen a few hacks floating & at least 1 rumor after talking to a customer support person saying on official release was suppose to be in December. But as December is almost over that seems dubious. Not planning on fighting with side loading, rooting & what not for the time being, unless the BP stuff is a long ways off.
idk
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-ecg-blood-pressure-monitoring-samsung-galaxy-watch-4/ for reference on how to do it on the Watch4. I believe it works on the 5, but am not going to be fighting with it for a bit.
Yes, that reference should work on the W5...
Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,
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Not one to install unknown software in fear of data stealing, trojans, viruses... I bit the bullet and installed this work around. It in fact works great. Did the calibration and pretty darn accurate. BP measurements was the main reason I bought this watch 5 and can finally use it.,
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Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.
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Just a slight clarification.. there is nothing unknown about the software you installed. That guy who wrote and supports it is well known. But it's nice that you reported that you got it working. I'm waiting on the watch now and will do the same as you did. I would like the reporting too.
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I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.
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I understand. But side loading apps can be risky, never as safe as getting it through the play store, but yea, some bad actors there too. Google tried to verify it on download but gave me a message file too large. Recently bought 2022 Turbotax which most vendors sell as downloads and yep, the vendor was pushing a copy with malware and bogus serial number. He was using a very larger retailor to offer from. Luckily I almost always first install to a sandbox to be safe, and test, and did, Just saying its getting nuts out there.
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I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.
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I hear that & I'm in the same boat. Use to root, run Cyanogen, mess with bootloaders & all the fun stuff for years. These days stock usually is good enough & auto-updating makes life so much easier & safer.
Still debating if I just wait for Samsung, or break down & side load semi-trusted molded stuff.
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Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though
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Yep. I gave up. I needed it. Promised for Watch 4, nope. Watch 5, wating... Watch 6, 7,... who knows? Have a few brews while you wait. Won't help with your BP though
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First, works great and well needed app on my wrist. As for loading an 'unknown' sourse, Dante63 has done so much to allow us, and he keep maintaining new releases. I have his 'unknown' source since early W4 days (and I had the watch from proably the day it was released). With github release, text install files, video, github, and support for the community for free, what exactly is he going to take from you exactly? If you have Tiktok I would be more worried.. and if you get the google time line as I do once a month, this is REALLY big brother style report.. So if you connect to the internet, you already gave up on privacy.. and they know everything about you already.
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See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ce-restriction-removed-25th-oct-2022.4322527/
According to APK Mirror, the latest is Samsung Health Monitor 1.1.1.221 so I believe this is the latest you can ask for.