So I received OS 9..5.5 first thing this morning and went out and took some video and photos and added my thoughts on the new camera firmware.
https://youtu.be/wIXEsktlEs8
I love the phone, the camera is the weakness, as focus is still an issue. When it takes a good shot, its epic. Let me know if you have any questions etc.
the latest build i have is 9.5.4 and that just updated today
Qwest905 said:
the latest build i have is 9.5.4 and that just updated today
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OP may have T-Mobile variant
id be curious to see the difference between Smart Content Detection on and off as i believe it has a difference.
I am in the UK. I got 9.5.4 when I first got phone. 9.5.5 arrived this morning.
Ive tested the new firmware compared to the iphone XS. The op7 still lacks in detail, the images are bit soft. What I was surprised to see is that the focal length of the regular main sensor on the iphone is wider than the wide angle on the op7. Unfortunately the update does resolve some issues but does not take it to the next level.
How the camera work with motion/action shots? Static images look good, but the few pictures I’ve seen of people moving have higher motion blur and ghosting.
Someone try smart Content Detection on and off as i believe it has a difference.
Post images with it on and off let's see the difference!
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How the camera work with motion/action shots? Static images look good, but the few pictures I’ve seen of people moving have higher motion blur and ghosting.
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To be honest, it's not great. I have a Iphone xs too and it's about twice as good for movement/action shots.
A.Priori said:
To be honest, it's not great. I have a Iphone xs too and it's about twice as good for movement/action shots.
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try it with Smart Content Detection off and compare pictures
Pit Stains said:
How the camera work with motion/action shots? Static images look good, but the few pictures I’ve seen of people moving have higher motion blur and ghosting.
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Awful because of the ridiculously slow shutter speed.
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Batfink33 said:
Awful because of the ridiculously slow shutter speed.
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can you test with smart content detection OFF please.
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Unlocked variant of the V40 has a new update today. Includes the November security patch along with other usability and functionality improvements.
I also managed to take a few before and after shots to see how the camera performs/changed. Looks like they made some changes to the HDR intensity and improved the quality of the telephoto. The HDR is an animated GIF showing the contrast between the two. The telephoto is a side-by-side. I had to drop the save quality of that image down to post but you can see the difference in quality when looking at the tree branch in the middle and the houses behind it.
SHosp said:
Unlocked variant of the V40 has a new update today. Includes the November security patch along with other usability and functionality improvements.
I also managed to take a few before and after shots to see how the camera performs/changed. Looks like they made some changes to the HDR intensity and improved the quality of the telephoto. The HDR is an animated GIF showing the contrast between the two. The telephoto is a side-by-side. I had to drop the save quality of that image down to post but you can see the difference in quality when looking at the tree branch in the middle and the houses behind it.
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Nice pics, Castle Rock?
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Nice pics, Castle Rock?
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Close. Colorado Springs.
SHosp said:
Close. Colorado Springs.
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Ahh, off garden of the gods. Coronado 96
SHosp said:
Close. Colorado Springs.
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Ahh, off garden of the gods. Coronado 96
I prefer the previous hdr ?
Hi all,
I have the korean version (6/128)..is it possible to use this new software version? I have a v10...something
thanks all
In really disappointed with the camera. I'm getting blurry pictures a lot but when I switch to another camera app photos looks decent.
I may change the phone to another
Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Cool story, bro!
Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
PuffinNugz said:
Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
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Disable smooth skin, did update
Sharpness so bad especially at indoor/low light
P3xl did great work, p4xl distorted it
Front camera :no shapness
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Front camera :no shapness
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Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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Definitely something wrong, that info shows it's in the download folder and only 265kb. That's not straight from the camera. Like someone sent it as an MMS and it was downloaded.
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And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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This is the upload file to xda! Not the real taken photo!!!
Fille84 said:
Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
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Before you come to any conclusion, the point is the selfie camera didnt improved in px4xl it worse now.
I photo behind me not myself and this was the results just to show how is the quality!!!
You guy need to try more phones if you like this front camera...
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Yep. Forgot to mention that also. Always seems to be the OnePlus folks... and not just here. Also Reddit. There is a lot of them.
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I switched from oneplus that knowing Google is better, not this time...
Sorry but i needed to believe the reviews even the front facing camera didnt mention there...
The rear camera is the best out there for sure, but why Google went down in the specs of front camera?!
The battery also needed to improve better, we are in 2019 not 2016,Google needs to make 4000ma batteries and more, this is one of the most important things for users.
Everybody says front facing camera is not important as rear, but you can see people at the street, when traveling always makes selfie photos, so you need to improve it also or not make it less better than your previous phone
Got to say I'm pretty impressed by the sharpness regarding contours on my end. You're definitely using the cam the wrong way, or got a faulty sensor.
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Now you have explain for the nonsharp photo??? Dont answer, because you dont have answers!!!
I just took three shots, one with smoothness off, one on, and one portrait. ALL of them look REALLY good. 'shrugs'
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Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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So try to shoot one photo and see the information you get, this is what i got. The phone is original bought at Saturn Germany
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Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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It would be great to see a proof that you got something else
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Test.
You're right about xda upload changing the megapixel size of the photo. I was wondering about that.
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But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
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But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
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I checked in photos taken with my old px3xl details got 8M!!!another **** in px4xl?!
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Have no problem admitting I was wrong about uploading to xda changing the megapixels. Attaching a photo of my post indicating that I was wrong.
Again, are you rooted? Everyone else had no problem with ffc but you. Are you rooted?
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Im not rooted! Again, take a selfie photo look at the details of the photo, its i inside a circle and tell me please what is the size of photo you shooted 6M or 8M?
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I said I was wrong about the megapixels, but you don't have a Pixel 4 xl.
You're not rooted? Yet you're using three button navigation and your home button is missing the circle around the home button that has been present since the first Pixel xl. Pic is attached showing your navbar and what it looks like with three button navigation enabled on the pixel 4 xl. You're likely using a phone with a skimmed down version on Android on another phone. You're navigation bar looks similiar to the one on the Essential phone without the circle around the nav bar. I've attached a pic of that as well.
Also your clock is supposed to be on the left side. Signal and battery are supposed to be on the right. Pic is attached of how it's supposed to look.
Was going to say that your Google Lens icon is missing, but it's not available in Israel.
Anyhow, chances are is that you're using some random Gcam mod that you've posted about in the past.
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What are you saying?! In Hebrew the buttons and the clock are opposite to English, im using pixel 4 xl 2 days brand new, attached my system details!
Lack of sharpness is probably more like lack of focus. The front facing camera is fixed focus. It's no different than my Pixel 2 XL and both do fine for me. You gotta hold it a little steadier. Something that helps is using the 3 second timer so tapping the on screen shutter or the volume button don't produce extra movement.
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Default setting for video stabilisation is enabled. Anyone disable it? If so, what are your reasons for doing so?
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Default setting for video stabilisation is enabled. Anyone disable it? If so, what are your reasons for doing so?
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It crops in when enabled, basically you get less view in the frame as it stabilizes the video.
I keep mine off to fit more in the frame as I don't walk around much while doing so and hold the phone steady in hand.
For a much wider view, remain in photo mode and hold the shutter button to record video. You get the full ultra wide view to record though you can't switch lenses and it's at a lower resolution.
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It crops in when enabled, basically you get less view in the frame as it stabilizes the video.
I keep mine off to fit more in the frame as I don't walk around much while doing so and hold the phone steady in hand.
For a much wider view, remain in photo mode and hold the shutter button to record video. You get the full ultra wide view to record though you can't switch lenses and it's at a lower resolution.
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I don't get any cropping with it enabled. However, I can definitely tell the difference in "stability" between enabled and disabled when I take a video while eg. purposefully jumping around.
Just to confirm, you are using S21 Ultra with April update?
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I don't get any cropping with it enabled. However, I can definitely tell the difference in "stability" between enabled and disabled when I take a video while eg. purposefully jumping around.
Just to confirm, you are using S21 Ultra with April update?
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There is a small amount of cropping. You might not be seeing it due to the aspect ratio you are using.
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There is a small amount of cropping. You might not be seeing it due to the aspect ratio you are using.
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There was cropping on the S7 and S9+ that I previously used, and also I'm pretty sure I noticed it prior to April update on S21 Ultra. But with April update, I don't notice any cropping at all.
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Default setting for video stabilisation is enabled. Anyone disable it? If so, what are your reasons for doing so?
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I never use it at all. as it reduce the quality significantly which is unacceptable for me and makes it a useless function.
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There was cropping on the S7 and S9+ that I previously used, and also I'm pretty sure I noticed it prior to April update on S21 Ultra. But with April update, I don't notice any cropping at all.
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Well im also on the April update and there's definitely about 20% cropping...
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There was cropping on the S7 and S9+ that I previously used, and also I'm pretty sure I noticed it prior to April update on S21 Ultra. But with April update, I don't notice any cropping at all.
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Do you have a theory of how the phone can stabilize video without cropping?
Another thought - you can never recover the portion of the video that is cropped off, you will always miss those details that would have been captured if not for the cropping. However, you can always use a video editor to apply video stabilization after the fact, and judge whether it's worth cropping in.
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Do you have a theory of how the phone can stabilize video without cropping?
Another thought - you can never recover the portion of the video that is cropped off, you will always miss those details that would have been captured if not for the cropping. However, you can always use a video editor to apply video stabilization after the fact, and judge whether it's worth cropping in.
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Sadly, usually stabilization in editing can often ruin the video. Especially WARP in Premiere. But indeed pre-cropping loses detail. Nothing is perfect.
I also was baffled when I realized that having the initial stabilization option ON, crops the image. I thought that the OIS was managing to do the job without cropping. I guess limited understanding is at fault.
Regardless, the ultimate solution to have stable video and maximum detail is having a Gimbal. As of this point China has a plethora to offer for like 50euros on average.
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Well im also on the April update and there's definitely about 20% cropping...
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Are you using SD or Exynos? I'm on Exynos, and as I said, I did notice this cropping before. Now I can't reproduce it anymore! However, I can easily tell the difference between stabilisation On/Off by eg. running/jumping up and down while recording video. When off, it's really quite jerky. While with it enabled, it's surprisingly stable.
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Are you using SD or Exynos? I'm on Exynos, and as I said, I did notice this cropping before. Now I can't reproduce it anymore! However, I can easily tell the difference between stabilisation On/Off by eg. running/jumping up and down while recording video. When off, it's really quite jerky. While with it enabled, it's surprisingly stable.
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Exynos here too buddy.. When you tested the cropping vs stabilization, did you use exactly the same settings as me?
*4k30/16:9/main camera
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Exynos here too buddy.. When you tested the cropping vs stabilization, did you use exactly the same settings as me?
*4k30/16:9/main camera
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Sorry my mistake. I was looking for crop the wrong way. Yes cropping still exists with stabilisation on.
It's a pity there's no shortcut button to enable and disable while in viewfinder? If recording while eg. walking, stabilisation really makes a big difference. Otherwise I agree, I prefer it disabled overall.
For the S7 (and I think S9+), I actually disabled video stabilisation as I didn't think it actually had any noticeable benefits, and it tended to cause more "micro-jitters". For S21 Ultra, it seems to do a pretty good job at stabilising though.
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Well im also on the April update and there's definitely about 20% cropping...
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Oh, I didnt ever notice that, lol. I never take stabilization off, but I'll try later with and without.
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Oh, I didnt ever notice that, lol. I never take stabilization off, but I'll try later with and without.
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Yes, and just to clarify, you can test it by switching from "Photo" mode to "Video" mode, while using the same aspect ratio for both.
Your photos with examples helped me thank you
Can someone give me S21 Ultra stock camera apk
Hi, bought the phone 2 days ago, because it's not with 888, it's not with curved display and has a ultra wide camera with AF and macro capabilities with raw support.
To my surprise, the quality of the raw file from the ultra wide is worse than from the periscope - there are some strange bright dots when you zoom in to 100%, which lead to overall bad quality of the ready image. I guess they are the phase focus pixels, but they shouldn't be visible without any heavy editing.
So, is it just me, or the problem is global, so I know how to proceed with this? I'm leaving a crop depicting the problem.
Are you sure the ultra wide angle has AF? but yeah it looks weird...
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Are you sure the ultra wide angle has AF? but yeah it looks weird...
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That's why I chose this phone, for the af of the ultra wide.
I don't see it mentioned anywhere but as you have the phone you should know it better than me!
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That's why I chose this phone, for the af of the ultra wide.
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You are right, the Edge 20 review on GSMArena mentions the AF for wide angle. A good thing, but it's strange that the ultra wide angle pictures seem a bit blurry then. Did you try with Gcam?
Not yet.
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You are right, the Edge 20 review on GSMArena mentions the AF for wide angle. A good thing, but it's strange that the ultra wide angle pictures seem a bit blurry then. Did you try with Gcam?
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Tried gcam, same story...
Which Gcam version you use? Try enabling Sabre and see if it makes a difference.
I tried the latest bsg, but removed it, cause the results weren't satisfactory or better than using the stock app as a real camera.
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I tried the latest bsg, but removed it, cause the results weren't satisfactory or better than using the stock app as a real camera.
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Hey did you manage to solve this issue? Any suggestions for the lackluster RAW outputs from the stock camera app??
The battle is legendary. Still no success defeating the defect. If it is a demozaicing problem, Motorola should fix it.
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The battle is legendary. Still no success defeating the defect. If it is a demozaicing problem, Motorola should fix it.
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THanks for the reply. I wonder how happy you are overall with the cameras? I've found that the front facing one is quite dark and has WB issues. In general the photos coming out of the stock camera seem riddled with artifacts and oversharpened.
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THanks for the reply. I wonder how happy you are overall with the cameras? I've found that the front facing one is quite dark and has WB issues. In general the photos coming out of the stock camera seem riddled with artifacts and oversharpened.
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Camera Is great as I see in reviews from owners and websites .
I don't even bother shooting in jpg, this is Motorola and they suck in camera performance and resolution logic.
But, I shoot raw, which is possible even with the selfie cam, and after a minute of editing I get sharp and impressive images, and that's why I bought it - the sensors itself are quite capable. If I find a solution to the problem with the ultrawide, the phone is a keeper...
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Camera Is great as I see in reviews from owners and websites .
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I actually own it. Reviews and (average) owners don't understand what we're talking about. Some offence.
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I don't even bother shooting in jpg, this is Motorola and they suck in camera performance and resolution logic.
But, I shoot raw, which is possible even with the selfie cam, and after a minute of editing I get sharp and impressive images, and that's why I bought it - the sensors itself are quite capable. If I find a solution to the problem with the ultrawide, the phone is a keeper...
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I hate the selfie cam and when video calling tho.... I look like a waterpainting and tanned
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I hate the selfie cam and when video calling tho.... I look like a waterpainting and tanned
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Learn to make your own jpg and you'll be able to see the dirt in your wrinkles on the selfies.
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I don't even bother shooting in jpg, this is Motorola and they suck in camera performance and resolution logic.
But, I shoot raw, which is possible even with the selfie cam, and after a minute of editing I get sharp and impressive images, and that's why I bought it - the sensors itself are quite capable. If I find a solution to the problem with the ultrawide, the phone is a keeper...
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Have you try Google cam ?
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Have you try Google cam ?
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Answered already here. Jpg from phones and actual cameras suck. The raw from gcam is also worse than using the phone as a real camera. Here's an example, learn photography if you expect miracles from a tiny sensor...
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Answered already here. Jpg from phones and actual cameras suck. The raw from gcam is also worse than using the phone as a real camera. Here's an example, learn photography if you expect miracles from a tiny sensor...
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Hasli's LMC Google camera mod seems to be working better with the wide angle cam (no artifacts)
So, I noticed after I updated to one ui 4 (android 12) the camera app got a lot softer and more.. *blurry* with the 39x and 100x zoom. Pics attached for reference I don't even need to explain which is which
anyone else with similar issues?
Is this the Snapdragon or Exynos?
Taken yesterday evenig. S20U, exynos and 100x zoom. Android 12 stable.
Took mine today, 30x. One UI 4
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Took mine today, 30x. One UI 4
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Seems not be true as the moon phase is now full moon - yours is not....
this is my with stable A12, exynos
My model is Snapdragon G9980 One UI 4.0 Beta3.
The picture quality of photos in low-light scenes is very poor
the resolution of the shooting font symbols is very vague
and the noise is more than the old version, and even not as good as the Snapdragon version Note10+
the difference in sensor size should not be such a big step backward.
I was disappointed to see the negative camera optimization on Samsung phones.
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Seems not be true as the moon phase is now full moon - yours is not....
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There was lot of clouds yesterday here so yeah
Here is my shot. While it does not look so processed as OP's, it's not the most clear either. I find it to be absolutely the same as the photos I took in Android 11. I think the blurry photo taken by xSpartacusx might have been the result of the zoom lens not being activated or maybe the phone was not stabilized enough.
I updated through Odin with the official version found on Frija. Here are my software specs:
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Is this the Snapdragon or Exynos?
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Snapdragon SM-G998U
but yea, before the update when I would take a photo I could literally see the lines on the surface of the moon and the craters. Now it's really fuzzy.. I genuinely think that with the android 12 update the processing methods changed or the software bugged up the way the camera works