Camera recording capability, and 8kp50? - Nubia Red Magic 3 Questions & Answers

I am inquiring about the phones video recording capabilities, and the possibility to do 8kp50.
I've tried to get rudimentary answers from support, not good.
At 4kp60 and 8k HDR, how far can the data rate go up in h265 or h264, deep the pixel depth go and format (4:2:0, 4:2:2, 4:4:4)? This is both a sensor, chipset and software question, as each of these constrict the maximum performance.
I haven't been able to find a datasheet for the sensor, but it; s said to support full 48mp at 30fps, this data rate is close to 8kp50. So, even with minor over clocking the sensor can be read at this rate. However, the 855 chipset does not support 8k video officially, but it can pull frames from the sensor a lot faster than the video mode. So, like what the Nokia 9 Pureview does to do computational photography, all the processing systems on the phone could be used to process and compress these 8k still frames to higher quality. So, is this possible?
The remaining question is, how fast can the still modes compress 8k frames (can it get continuous video rate)?
USB-C for storage.

I messaged their Facebook asking if it can even do 1080p 240fps but no response, despite having read the message.
Not good support

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full VGA recording @30fps? pls read it.

Guys i just want to know that is there any app or patch by which we can get full vga recording @25 or 30 fps.
OR
Is there any experts who can make or is working for the camera patch to get full VGA @25 or 30fps recording.
OR
anyother way to get it itself in diamond.
Pls reply and let me know if there is anything related to increase camera efficiency cause i am too much stressed because of the recording is not perfect in such a high priced phone and many of my friends got less priced phone and they are more than 2mp camera and takes good photos and good recording as camera is faster, no spooky effect, etc even though resolution is not so good still its fast fps recording and i didn't know that diamond will not be able to record and battery drainer and spooky camera recording at only 15fps.
But there is one thing the camera is totally light dependent cause in very good light or sunlight it gives no spooky effect and i recorded clips in 24.0 fps even though in half vga resolution but still good pics and vids.
So why diamond dont have camera like nokia which is better even thought the resolution is low?
Pls can somebody help or can somebody assure me that in future maybe after 5 to 6 months there will def an app or patch for it?
Sorry mods but i am replying my own thread so it goes up and some expert will read it and help out.
Nobody is interested to even read or reply in this topic.
Pls read as i know for many diamond users are suffering little like me and the phone is amazing and even camera is good but only full vga with good fps will be much better so that all buyers of diamond become by seeing app or patch to improve recording
You will most likely have to wait until someone ports the Diamond2's camera app, since the new phone supports VGA recording. However, you may still have an issue if the Diamond itself doesn't support VGA recording.
I've always wanted to see better video recording on the Diamond. I thought the reason it was limited was because the phone simply wasn't fast enough to be able to sustain a decent frame rate for VGA recording (due to the fact that on my old Touch, a rapidly changing view seemed to significantly reduce the frame rate), but the Diamond2's hardware is similar, so perhaps it's a limitation related to the camera.
in my old p3600 it can record video 15 fps in dark
but my diamond only 4 , 6 fps in dark ?!
also my friend touch daul only 4 to 6 fps
the recording in all touch series is just crap in dark

FPS Dropping in low-light

Loving this phone so far except for one thing. When recording in low-light, there is a significant decrease of fps.
I realize that the 28mm f/2.0 lens is the best out there so why would HTC pair it with such a crippling software feature???
I'd rather have the software crank up the ISO or lose a little exposure to keep the video at a steady 30 or 24 fps instead of the stuttering/lag effect.
Some of my videos uploaded in low-light areas are averaging 20/fps.
Do any of you know if HTC usually updates the camera software or if an outside dev would come out with a camera hack allowing us to lock the framerate?
I'm pretty sure this is a known issue and will be fixed in an upcoming update

4K video recording

Hello everyone, on my XZ2 I can't record 4K videos. Well, I can, but they stutter while recording, or even freeze up. Sometimes the phone then freezes up too. Some reviewer mentioned stuttering viewfinder while recording videos, but when playing back it stutters too. Only if I disable shake reduction and HDR I have a chance of recording relatively smooth video. Otherwise I experience massive frame drops. h264 or h265 don't seem to make a difference. I've also recorded to the internal memory to make sure it's not a slow SD card causing issues.
It's the first phone this has ever happened to me. LG G5? Smooth 4K. LG V20? Smooth too. Xiaomi Mi 6? Yep. Even with a Snapdragon 810 (!) did smooth videos (I think my Snapdragon 800 based Mi 3 was smoother using Open Camera...).
Basically: WTH?
Also the XZ2 keeps overheating when taking photos. As a result certain features are deactivated, or it even quits the camera.
Any tricks? Anyone else having issues? My phone is a marketing sample, so probably early in the production run, so that may cause the issues?
Same here on 4K recording. No overheat on camera yet. Just went on holiday and took 900+ pics with no issues. Decent quality too. Disappointed with 4K recording capability though.

Choppy video.

For some reason I get some kind of severe lag when recording video, especially noticable during camera movements but it's there all the time. You also hear the chops in the sound. The problem is worst in 1080p, it's a bit better in 4k. 1080 gets the choppy lags in all 3rd party apps I've tried as well as in the stock app, very frustrating. Changing the bitrate doesn't seem to affect this issue much, it's doesn't get less choppy at lower or higher bitrates (in Open Camera).
Video stabilization and noise reduction and stuff like that is turned off across the board as far as it's possible since I use a gimbal and do all processing in post. And yes the video is choppy with or without the gimbal, it makes no difference for that.
At first I thought it had to to with bad support for the 3rd party apps I use but then I realized the problem is just as bad or worse in the Huawei photo app, which of course produces bad video quality in the first place but that's another issue.
Recording in slow motion on the other hand works fine, cranking up the bitrate to the max and recording in 120fps in open camera with manual focus produces the best slo-mo quality 1080 footage I've seen a phone do so far. So I know for a fact that the phone can produce good quality 1080p footage, I just can't make it work with normal frame rates for some reason.
Anyone else had this problem? Is my phone simply malfunctioning or did I do something wrong? I'm on the 131 firmware version, firmware finder also lists the 131a as compatible, could that solve the issue?
Any help appreciated.
Sjorpha said:
For some reason I get some kind of severe lag when recording video, especially noticable during camera movements but it's there all the time. You also hear the chops in the sound. The problem is worst in 1080p, it's a bit better in 4k. 1080 gets the choppy lags in all 3rd party apps I've tried as well as in the stock app, very frustrating. Changing the bitrate doesn't seem to affect this issue much, it's doesn't get less choppy at lower or higher bitrates (in Open Camera).
Video stabilization and noise reduction and stuff like that is turned off across the board as far as it's possible since I use a gimbal and do all processing in post. And yes the video is choppy with or without the gimbal, it makes no difference for that.
At first I thought it had to to with bad support for the 3rd party apps I use but then I realized the problem is just as bad or worse in the Huawei photo app, which of course produces bad video quality in the first place but that's another issue.
Recording in slow motion on the other hand works fine, cranking up the bitrate to the max and recording in 120fps in open camera with manual focus produces the best slo-mo quality 1080 footage I've seen a phone do so far. So I know for a fact that the phone can produce good quality 1080p footage, I just can't make it work with normal frame rates for some reason.
Anyone else had this problem? Is my phone simply malfunctioning or did I do something wrong? I'm on the 131 firmware version, firmware finder also lists the 131a as compatible, could that solve the issue?
Any help appreciated.
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I have this issue in 60fps
When I revert back to full stock it's fluid and works as expected.
Once I've rooted and installed twrp etc plus a few apps it starts to get laggy, I don't use 4K so don't care..30fps 1080p is what I use most and it's perfect..just annoying that 60fps doesn't work as it should..really annoying.
At total stock it should be fine.
I also use a magisk module called swap torpedo which eliminates the use of a swap file, not sure if that matters or not.
Also I've seen this issue present on all firmwares
In which app do u have this issue?
Babu mani said:
In which app do u have this issue?
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All apps including Huaweis own.
I've contacted support and they say they'll try to find out what the problem is with my choppy 1080 video.
Obviously that doesn't adress the absurdly low bitrate limits and lack of support for advanced functions in 3rd party apps, which are simply limitations of the p20 pro for now, they said they are aware of those issues as well and looking to fix them.
Sjorpha said:
All apps including Huaweis own.
I've contacted support and they say they'll try to find out what the problem is with my choppy 1080 video.
Obviously that doesn't adress the absurdly low bitrate limits and lack of support for advanced functions in 3rd party apps, which are simply limitations of the p20 pro for now, they said they are aware of those issues as well and looking to fix them.
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Ok so may have a fix for this.
I'd previously changed device resolution to HD from FHD changing this back fixes 60fps video, it makes sense that it would offer the same for the other issues you've been having.
Check it out its under Display.
About the laggy video, I just looked into this issue and found something really interesting. When choosing full HD resolution and shooting a video, I find it laggy. But when choosing FHD+ 2160 x 1080 p, the video is amazingly smooth. I suspect that when you choose FHD, the phone is doing some downsampling which causes a huge load on the CPU and makes it laggy while FHD+ does not cause such a big downsampling, because of the 2160 width, which is the native 4k height. Maybe someone who knows more can confirm if what I'm saying is actually true. The kirin 970 does not seem capable of proper processing power like it is advertised.
I have te same issue. FHD 30fps is horribly stuttering, while FHD 60fps or 4K are ok. Do someone found a solution to this? It's incredible that the most powerful and advanced camera phone at the moment have this flaw!
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Hey, did anyone find another fix for this? I changed my screen resolution and it makes no difference, still getting laggy and choppy video.
Hi guys,
I have just recorded wedding speeches and the video is choppy as hell at 60fps. The audio is fine but video isn't. Any way I can salvage the clips?
Thanks in advance

OIS - EIS - AIS what's really the case?

Trying to figure out what the phone is really equipped with and why it has the stabilization limitations it has so here are my questions:
1) Does the phone have OIS (optical-analog) or EIS/AIS (digital)? And on which lens? To my understanding, if a phone has OIS it should be always available on all modes/resolutions?
2) As I understand it, EIS/AIS are stabilization methods enforced digitally. Is there a particular limitation that prevents them from working on anything above 1080 30 or is it just a "software choice"? Can we hope EIS/AIS will be offered on more resolutions in the future is it just not technically possible?
3) Is there any truth to this article?
https://thenextweb.com/plugged/2018/04/09/huawei-said-p20-pro-doesnt-ois-3-cameras-lying/
So, do the cameras have actual analog stabilization OIS which would work on all modes and resolutions but it is simply disabled by Huwaei? Sounds crazy to limit your own device light that..

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