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about the qualcomm 7200 chipset (noob asking a non-noob question)

first pls check this site out
it has the specifications of the chipset that the kaiser is using
http://www.cdmatech.com/products/msm7200_chipset_solution.jsp
my question is
duz it mean that, our kaiser has the potential to do whatever it says there on the specs?
like the 6.0MP camera and the 30FPS video?
gurus, pls enlighten me

Yeah, probably it can do all those things.. but first we need to wait for those guys at HTC figure out how to use them.
Meanwhile please sign the petition and do whatever you can to get those guys to fix this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500

jym04 said:
Yeah, probably it can do all those things.. but first we need to wait for those guys at HTC figure out how to use them.
Meanwhile please sign the petition and do whatever you can to get those guys to fix this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500
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no it doesnt mean we can magically have a 6.0 MP camera or 30 fps video, but the playback of video could be greatly improved by getting decent 3d acceleration drivers, which HTC has yet to provide.

Doug2873 said:
no it doesnt mean we can magically have a 6.0 MP camera or 30 fps video, but the playback of video could be greatly improved by getting decent 3d acceleration drivers, which HTC has yet to provide.
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Oh, I thought he meant 30 fps video playback, not recording.. my mistake sorry anyway, wouldn't harm to get everyone's attention to the acceleration drivers right?

It does mean the chip supports reading image data from a 6MP sensor. It is up to the manufacturer as to what size camera sensor they actually include (in this case 3.1MP). So, no magic software update to 6MP. As for 30fps video recording, if you are talented enough programmer, you might be able to figure out how to write an app to do it. The 30fps simply refers to how often the processor can get data from the image sensor. How many frames a second you can actually record, and at what resolution, is limited by programming skills and the relatively low performance of an ARM processor.

Why is'nt 30fps video recording possible? The only limitation is hardware related, which our hardware supports. The fps isnot related to the cam unit as far as I know. Previously on my ROKR E6 and my W800 I've increased the ps from 7 to about 20. I apologise if I am wrong, this is my first week with the Kaiser and still learning , first week with any windows based phone and I'm loving it

30fps Video Record?

Is there a way or tweak to get the camera to record at VGA or WVGA @ 30fps? I have a 14 month old daughter and im constantly taking pics of her for the familly ect and noticed that when recording video the framerate is very laggy or slow motion like. The iphone 3gs records great video quality and the N1 has better specs so id assume higher frame rate on record is possible with the N1 also.
Any thoughts anyone?
Thx Guys!

buy a video camera?

jamesyb0i said:
buy a video camera?
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People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.

hypersonicx said:
People trip me out some time with there smart remarks.
If you like carrying around multi devices good for you. I have a stand alone camera that does video record ect but my camera is not ALLWAYS on me.
The same way the Nexus is good for multi media such as mp3 / and watching videos but I dont go buy a PSP or ipod touch for that I use my phone. The point of the high end phones these days is to try to limit carrying multi devices on you at all time.
With all the hacking / ports / tweaks going on just wanted to know if 30fps video record was possible. If you dont know how or dont know what im talking about please do reply with BS. Thanks.
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i don't think he was in a bs kinda tone. hard to tell on forums
you'll thank yourself later for using a higher quality camera (dedicated camera) of any kind for videos one day. proud parent here, know whatcha mean about wanting to capture the cool 'new' moments.
now then, as far as recording, i'll bet there are settings you can change for it someday. right now the video quality is pretty darn good. just dumped a couple of videos from mine today. frame rate is quite good, picture clarity good, fps decent.
IF YOU FIND an app or way to up the settings, PLEASE update this thread in your original post.

Yeah, Im not trying to come off negative to anyone. I have a decent standalone camera that can take great pics and video a 10mpiexel cam with ful vga record. With phones tho its so MUCH MUCH MUCH more conveient to beable to snap a picture and have that picture allready able to send as MMS / Email / Up Load to facebook ect...
With the standalone camera I have to take mem card out - load to card reader - copy pics to mem card on my nexus - ect...
Just too many steps. When I had an iphone 3gs for a lmited time I was amazed at the video recording quality from a cell phone.
Now with the nexus with specs better then iphone I dont see why we cant get full 30fps at WVGA or VGA res. With 1ghz CPU and 5mpxl that should be possible right out the box. Seems like its definetly possible and im all for the ability to carry less devices.

it would be great if we could get 30 fps on the nexus. my under powered n97 does 30 fps and its video quality is a step up from my nexus for sure. kinda disappoints me that the video quality isn't just as good as my previous phones.

the moto droid (with lower specs) can do 30fps with some hacking... im sure its some setting in the rom that we can change
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-hacks/19647-increase-camera-video-quality.html

HTC Desire with similar hardware does 30fps.
I don't know if it's HW or SW limitation, though. Did anyone try to record video on Desire ROM and can verify the actual fps?

Well, the Desire ROM allows for WGVA recording. I do not know about all the fps stuff, but I do know that I am recording in WGVA.

You should be able to by modifying the camera driver in the kernel and the build.prop. I'll look into this when I have the time, but I found the line that should control frame rate. A commit says that not all cameras are stable at 30fps, but how's that ever stopped us?

Xperia X Performance Video stutter!

First time im posting here, I read a lot before posting about modifications to make the Heat threshold higher before the cores get unplugged, I have never modified a cellphone in my life, so I dont understand anything to much. Currently im having a problem with a Xperia X Performance I bought for 388 new from a amazon sale. Phone works perfect and I can't complain, but there's only one thing, I bought it cause of its video recording and photo capabilities, I haven't had a problem taking picture, but while recording video, no matter if it is at 30fps or 60fps, my recording stutters at random times, and after 2 minutes of recording it gives me a overheating message.
I am guessing the sutter comes from the heating itself that makes the phone go crazy, I read the max temperature on default it holds before going nuts is 47cº, and theres a mod to make it go to 56º or more before going nuts. If this is the problem then could someone help me or explain me how to modify it? Or if the video stutter ir something else I would appreciate some help! I need it to work before the 27th because im leaving a on 3 month trip and need to record a lot, bought 5 SD 64gb 90mb/s cards as they are the best for filming.
Thank you!

From what i've found, seems like rooting and unlocking a xperia X performance device is way harder than a normal device....
PatrickJoel said:
First time im posting here, I read a lot before posting about modifications to make the Heat threshold higher before the cores get unplugged, I have never modified a cellphone in my life, so I dont understand anything to much. Currently im having a problem with a Xperia X Performance I bought for 388 new from a amazon sale. Phone works perfect and I can't complain, but there's only one thing, I bought it cause of its video recording and photo capabilities, I haven't had a problem taking picture, but while recording video, no matter if it is at 30fps or 60fps, my recording stutters at random times, and after 2 minutes of recording it gives me a overheating message.
I am guessing the sutter comes from the heating itself that makes the phone go crazy, I read the max temperature on default it holds before going nuts is 47cº, and theres a mod to make it go to 56º or more before going nuts. If this is the problem then could someone help me or explain me how to modify it? Or if the video stutter ir something else I would appreciate some help! I need it to work before the 27th because im leaving a on 3 month trip and need to record a lot, bought 5 SD 64gb 90mb/s cards as they are the best for filming.
Thank you!
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Huawei P9 Lite Camera 60fps

Hello.
So I have a question about Huawei P9 Lite camera... I want 60fps, I know, lets say for resolution, thats a hardware problem, it has pixels for resolution just up to 1080, but that doesn't bother me, I want to know if there is any way to get 60fps on 1080 or perhaps 120 on 720 or the other way around. I know I have slowmotion future in menu, but it records at 480p I think or even worse.
Is it option to readjust camera drivers for 60fps and how, I am prepared to help with development of driver, I am computer engineer and I got some knowledge, but never focused on cameras much, but now I started to do short movies and video production and editing and I see problem of missing 60fps on phone, but cameras for that are expensive.
If anyone is prepared to help or knows anything about it, feel free to reply ??

Try the APP OpenCamera and use or don't use API2 and set the fps to 60.

What is API2?

I enabled all, but it doesnt work as it should

Mine works like a charm on stock camera with 1080p60fps.

Johnny TDN said:
Mine works like a charm on stock camera with 1080p60fps.
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How? What have you adjusted?

MatoXD said:
How? What have you adjusted?
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Clean camera cache.
Then go to video-swipe from right to left-video quality-FHD 1080.
After that, toggle stabiliser as well.

Which android do you have? B390? Because I have custom rom, Elite ROM v7

porra74 said:
that is 30fps..
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Idk why, but mine works at 60fps.

Johnny TDN said:
Idk why, but mine works at 60fps.
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You are trolling us, right ? Open Camera says, that this device does not support 60 FPS @ 1080p...
Mine also records @ 30 FPS on 1080p...

Hardware supports 60fps, software does not. Unless some one got around that

Who would be prepared to help with software things? Cuz i want 60 or 120 fps really bad

MatoXD said:
Who would be prepared to help with software things? Cuz i want 60 or 120 fps really bad
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Yeah? Buy a new phone...

Ban9itS said:
Yeah? Buy a new phone...
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Ohhh sorry, not everyone has rich parents, who will buy his kid everything

MatoXD said:
Ohhh sorry, not everyone has rich parents, who will buy his kid everything
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Jeeesus... the classic... xD Couldn't you come up with something else ? xD
Calm down...
Joke... it was a joke...
Just don't wish for a 120FPS @ 1080p, when you buy 180 € phone... not gonna happen buddy... at least in nearest future...
You have 120FPS @ 640x480 - go use it...

Ban9itS said:
Jeeesus... the classic... xD Couldn't you come up with something else ? xD
Calm down...
Joke... it was a joke...
Just don't wish for a 120FPS @ 1080p, when you buy 180 € phone... not gonna happen buddy... at least in nearest future...
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Just wanna try it, can be 60fps, even if its buggy, just for testing

I realised just now... It is really 120FPS @ 640x480, so I bet there can be at least 60FPS @ 1280x720... Can someone do that? Regards

the truth of 960 fps slow mo

So huawei stills refusing to tell us the truth of 960 fps.
Adobe after effect (twixtor) users will now what i am talking about.
The p20 pro is incapable of 960 fps video recording. It is just an frame interpolation technique. It may be recording only in 240 fps or 480 fps. Nevertheless, Software interpolation should be improved.
Those two videos show clearly the case
What do you think guys ?
Huawei should work more on that soft interpolation slow mo thing

you need to practice a little to get good results - https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnvGmwrUL5LmmAZe2

starbase64 said:
you need to practice a little to get good results - https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnvGmwrUL5LmmAZe2
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Practise what, im showcasing some examples from youtube to compare p20 pro and slow mo interpolation outputs.
Frame rate interpolation is what meant by camera powered by AI, i think

Great findings, the question is is this a bug, SW limitation or hw limitation. The drone part of the video definitely show that there is something weird going on. It would be great to have the same tests with 240fps to see if the result is as sharp as it should be...
Also it might depend of firmware version, it seems they made quite a lot of changes in a short time.

Huawei lie to us....

jbfuzier said:
Great findings, the question is is this a bug, SW limitation or hw limitation. The drone part of the video definitely show that there is something weird going on. It would be great to have the same tests with 240fps to see if the result is as sharp as it should be...
Also it might depend of firmware version, it seems they made quite a lot of changes in a short time.
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I have recorded some videos of muzzle blasts from ww2 era rifles,(yes there is a 6 foot flame out the barrel? not much fun on the shoulder though) in 960fps, it looks just like the you tube video, the 240fps looked alot better, I slowed them down as much as I could on the computer, the 960fps was no better than the 60 FPS, in fact I think the 60 FPS on my old windows 950 was better, with the p20 pro the 960 FPS vid played frame by frame was only 30 frames.
Trying to explain that the FPS is not right to so-called experts is a nightmare! I have explained it like this to a few at Huawei and EE, If you have a camera that shoots 900 FPS and you take a 1 second vid then when you play it back you should have 900 'photos' not 30, they still think it's recorded right as as it's slowed down, they cannot see the distortion or the lack of frames, or they choose to ignore you as they have been 'trained' on this phone.
According to meta data the 960 FPS bids are recorded at 30fps, if I connect the phone to the computer, go into the phones video file and right click on a vid for the properties, it says 30gps for the 960, the 250fps is recorded around the 240 mark (the speed is variable)

It is most likely a hardware limitation Huawei worked around with software trickery to get a similar effect. My guess is that Huawei's sensor lacks the on-sensor memory cache which is required for the sensor to be able to record high frame rate video without any of the normal limitations.
/ Magnus

Magnus3D said:
It is most likely a hardware limitation Huawei worked around with software trickery to get a similar effect. My guess is that Huawei's sensor lacks the on-sensor memory cache which is required for the sensor to be able to record high frame rate video without any of the normal limitations.
/ Magnus
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That's true

The 960 fps vídeos really look like twixtor vídeos.
But one thing do not make sense.
If it is a 60fps with some sw gimmick to make a 960fps why there is a recording time limit?
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Stupid from huawei

They put the same options as of the galaxy s9 to make you believe that it is real 960 fps

I still believe in some hw limitation as a rolling shutter insted of a global shutter that creates this effect similar to twixtor.
If it is only sw it would make more sense to record at 240fps without time cap and afterwards during editing let the user select the time frame to create the super slowmo.
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Can anyone clarify that they get these anomalies and if so what fw are you on?
I'm assuming that some of this is software based so it's possible if that's the case that it can be improved.
Really really horrible to see this though, I did a video of some rain whilst on 110 and it was crap.
Small fast moving objects just come out wrong. Solid normal moving objects seem to be perfect.
EG: the wings on a bee from one of the first posts, you can see the blur effect

i also think it's some kind of rolling shutter issue maybe combined with a real 480fps... limiting the record time would otherwise make no sense st all...
i've made a video where it's provoked by a flickering led-illumination. If the illumination is bright it seems to get better.... cannot post the link, as i'm a newbie - some assembly needed by removing two spaces: https: //youtu .be/4bxmu6nhyho

short update on my comment: did some tests with bad/good illumination and now im pretty sure it's a rolling shutter issue (which isn't a surprise, that you need a lot of light for 960fps) videos wil follow soon...

960fps is fake (at least on the p20)
so i analyzed the video files i made with bad illumination and some movies with good illumination frame by frame and the answer is very simple: 960fps is completely fake. it's recorded at 240fps and then interpolated to 960 fps.
If the illumination is bad, it will just copy 4 times the same image which avoids the ugly artifacts. If the illumination is good it interpolates the frames in-between. it sometimes does a great job, sometimes a really bad one...
in the video here you can see the effect of the interpolation working/not working with the small droplet which stays in place for 4 consecutive frames:
https ://youtu. be/DK-A3j-mino
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flowgeek said:
so i analyzed the video files i made with bad illumination and some movies with good illumination frame by frame and the answer is very simple: 960fps is completely fake. it's recorded at 240fps and then interpolated to 960 fps.
If the illumination is bad, it will just copy 4 times the same image which avoids the ugly artifacts. If the illumination is good it interpolates the frames in-between. it sometimes does a great job, sometimes a really bad one...
in the video here you can see the effect of the interpolation working/not working with the small droplet which stays in place for 4 consecutive frames:
https ://youtu. be/DK-A3j-mino
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That is exactly what it is. Huawei scammed us with fake specs

yeah... why is huawei not just honest?!? this way they sell a product intentionally with wrong specs! (with big advertisment on the webpage as well...) to me that's fraud, nothing else.

flowgeek said:
yeah... why is huawei not just honest?!? this way they sell a product intentionally with wrong specs! (with big advertisment on the webpage as well...) to me that's fraud, nothing else.
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Any sure procedure to report that with a solid proof

Xda staff would be posting articles about that if they were
honest