Question about pie vs 7.1.1 - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I have a note 8 factory unlocked us model phone I am with vzw and grandfather plan. I am still on 7.1.1 but would like to update to oreo then pie but I'm scared a provision may be in pie or something where I couldn't use my hotspot anymore being on this plan. But this is not a Verizon phone it is the unlocked version. Am I good to upgrade to pie or is it even better than 7.1 1? I can go months without a single reboot and signal is perfect and battery last 14hrs with heavy use. I've had her 2 years now.

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Nexus 6 and AT&T

I am thinking of just flashing MRA58Kto my unlocked Nexus 6, has anyone with AT&T experienced any problems doing that? Tired of AT&T dragging their feet with OTA's
Yeah I did it. I'm on Att also. But my phone came preloaded with project fi firmware so I get those ota's.
Just flash the factory image and you'll be good. And the latest firmware is MRA58R. Not k.
Good luck
Is it AT&T that is holding up the OTA update? I cannot find any information one way or the other? My nexus 7 was slow to get the update as well, but it finally rolled out last week.
It's always Att. Always. My galaxy s5 didn't get the lollipop update until 7 months after Samsung released it and 4 months after the other carriers released it.
It's always ATT. Always
Nexus 6 & at&t
I've just heard some stuff like bad LTE reception, bad battery life, etc, has anyone encountered any issues.
Besides AT&T are idiots
WINEMK68 said:
I've just heard some stuff like bad LTE reception, bad battery life, etc, has anyone encountered any issues.
Besides AT&T are idiots
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My LTE reception on AT&T seems a little sketchier than it used to with the new radio. You can always skip the radio and just flash the system/bootloader/recovery/boot images if your current radio is working well for you. Battery life on Marshmallow is a huge improvement over Lollipop for me.

volte with new update

has anyone gotten their calls over lte. no such luck with me. anyone else? im running all stock r1-hd prime version with ads with the latest update and yes i have enhanced 4g lte mode enabled. am i missing something. im on tmobile postpaid, also I've tried my sim card with a tmobile iphone 6s and volte works great.
I tested it by calling an iphone on tmobile and same issue as you
Wait! Which update adds VoLTE? I've been gone for 10 days and will be shocked if there is actually a VoLTE update! But then again, it seems all you guys are saying it doesn't even work? Color me confused...
I tried to enable the volte, it still goes 3G when I make phone calls. I hope it would work in the future. I am using T-mobile.
this update
BLU_R0010UU_V7.4.2_GENERIC 09-11-2016 13:38, witch added band 12, volte support, and android October security patch. As far as I know only the prime with ads version of the phone received the update. i've tried messing around with ims settings in mtk engineering but no luck getting it to work. im hoping that tmobile is just dragging their feet and flips the switch soon
Thanks for the info! Yes, it needs to be enabled not only on the phone but on t-mobile's end when/if they decide that Blu has met their requirements. Let's hope that it does actually happen. Blu said VoLTE would be available via OTA update "shortly after release" and the damn phone is already discontinued! Sigh...
Well I just got this phone today from Amazon the 16 GB memory version for my 10 yr old son. I checked today & there is a new update dated 4-30/5-1 that adds the band 12 VOLTE plus security patch update I believe. I'll install update & test lol. It was a tough decision between this $59.99 phone & the Moto G4 Play for $99 with similar specs but I think the Moto would of maybe performed a little better tho? Lol. Well have a great day fellas. All the best, Ron.

[Q] Pros and cons of unlocked Note 8

Best Buy has preorders for both the carrier locked and unlocked versions of the Note 8. I am coming off of a Note 4, and am very interested in the Note 8. My question is, are there any real benefits to me for buying the unlocked version vs. the Verizon version.
In the area in which I live, cell service mostly sucks across the board, but Verizon sucks the least. So I will not be changing carriers. So far, this is the pros/cons list based on the information that I've been able to find. I might be incorrect about one or more of these.
Pros:
Can change carriers whenever.
No carrier bloat.
Might get future updates more quickly.
Cons:
Might lose wifi calling.
Might lose wireless hotspot
Insurance is more expensive.
Best Buy has deals on pre-orders. For any Note 8, you get either a free memory card and wireless charging dock, or a Gear 365 camera. If you have their Best Buy card, then they have 24 month no interest financing. If you buy a carrier version of the phone, in addition to the other freebies, you get up to $150 off. The price of a Verizon Note 8 is $33.78 per month. The price of the unlocked Note 8 is $38.74 per month. Verizon also has a trade-in on my Note 4 of $240, which knocks the price down to $22.75 per month.
So given all of this, is there a compelling reason to get an unlocked phone? I know that carrier bloatware sucks, but there are solutions for it. At least there are on my Note 4.
One other question is, if I got a phone not tied to a carrier, does that make it easier to root in the future?
I pre ordered the unlocked phone and the reason was what happened to me with the note 7 (both times) and the ability to switch from AT&T to Verizon if I want to. Also lack of carrier bloat. Samsung has insurance for 12 bucks a month that is better than the carrier crap insurance. Wifi calling is a non issue for me, didn't realize that I might not have hot spot, but unlocked will get root first, and then Hotspot no trouble.
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I too pre ordered the unlocked version from samsung's website. I am with att right now and is planning to switch to t-mobile of project fi. not sure yet which of the two. but defintely a good plus having the unlocked version. I am not really concerned about wi fi calling since majority of the stuff i do to communicate is through text messages and through facebook messenger.
I have a unlock S8. I use it 100% fine on my T-mobile. But I can't do video call to another T-mobile customer. Thats the only difference.
I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
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i preordered ATT note8, i worry the unlocked note8 wont have all the att LTE bands.
on my att galaxy s8+ i getting 115mb down, 28mb up on att LTE Advanced
Speaking from my experience here in the UK, I have found that locked phones are a bad deal generally. They don't get the latest updates very quickly and you can only stick with one SIM card. They also devalue the phone when you want to sell it, and whilst you could use an unlocking service, they aren't always available for you phone or carrier combo.
You don't really get much (if any) carrier bloatware here however, so that's not a consideration. WiFi calling doesn't always deliver a good call connection and I have had occasional issues with this when using my hands-free car connection.
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ahenderson223 said:
I picked up the AT&T variant. My insurance is only $8.99 and if I call before 4pm I will have my phone the next day. Also if I need to warranty my phone they will send me another phone before I have to ship mine back to them. I'm not worried about bloat if that was the case I would just buy a OnePlus 5 or wait for the Pixel 2 you can uninstall or disable anything you don't want. I really don't see a need to root anymore. Im not all about flashing ROMs just to lose the features that make the Note the Note.
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For me, root is only useful for two reasons.
1. Ad blocking.
2. Tracking down the nuisance wakelocks that android always seems to have. I've had many android phones going back to the Evo, and the only ones that I didn't end up hating were the ones that I could root. My most current phone is a Note 4 and I blew it and lost root a couple of weeks ago and couldn't get it back. Now I can't tell what's keeping my phone awake all of the time.
I'm not into flashing anymore. When I had the Evo, I must have flashed it with 100 different ROMs. Now I just want a stable phone that doesn't get killed by wakelocks.
Battery life has been good to me on my last couple of Android devices. As far as updates on my S8+ I'm running the most current software and security patch that the unlocked unbranded has.
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My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
pete4k said:
My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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Been done many times over on s8 unlocked so I'd think yes.
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pete4k said:
My problem is, as a former note 7 user, I need to buy Note 8 direct from Samsung to get discount and it is a nightmare to SIM unlock the phone on Tmobile, if purchased from Samsung. Samsung can't unlock it, only T-mobile can and since the phone comes direct from Samsung, T-mo has no record of it. So you need to spend a lot of time talking to higher level support, they need to input your IMEI manually into their system, probably call Samsung to verify status of the phone etc. It's just too much headache. So I was wondering if I could buy unlocked phone and load T-mo software to get wifi calling back, but I just hope the phone will remain unlocked? Anybody knows?
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I don't understand all of this rhetoric about wifi calling not working. I had a mid level Samsung Grand Prime from Sprint that did not have ANY service hooked up to it. I think the previous owner that sold it on ebay left his sim card in it since he switched carriers but I never hooked it up to service and for a time of many months, went around making wifi calls anywhere there was a wifi connection just to go off the grid and remember what it was like when we didn't have mobile phones and the only communication when out-and-around town, was a pay phone on the corner gas station ...... if it didn't have two or three people waiting in line to use it.
I understand that some carriers software disable their wifi calling features in some models of phones because they don't want anyone to be able to make a call unless they are paying for service, but seams from my experience that it only requires network service provisioning which is probably why my GP worked with the SIM, even though it wasn't active which means that it SHOULD work on any phone with any carrier that has a network SIM regardless of it being active with service. I realize (although not personally experienced) that some carriers disable wifi calling in their branded phones even with provisioning and SIM unless there is active service and I think some disable it even with active service so as to charge extra for it, am I right? That should be fixable by a patch or something. Do not all ROM's correct that nad make wifi calling work?
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PS. I think unlocked branded phones are the way to go just because of the lack of bloatware and ability to switch carriers at will and/or pop in a SIM from another carrier where you don't have good coverage or travel out of the country. To highlight, I just this year worked in two different towns where T-mobile had almost nonexistent coverage (one of which was instrumental in loosing a job) and being able to pop in a pre-paid sim would have corrected that. I thought this 2-3 years ago but didn't listen to myself and purchased a T-Mobile Note 8 last year and have been kicking myself for it ever since.
I prefer having a unlocked device that way I can use it with any Cell Provider I want.

Rom development gonna be minimal to none?

Just curious if there's something diff about the s8 root method vs s7 root that's gonna make Rom dev more likely unlike how s7 variants had practically none
Anyone have ideas or is this gonna be like the s7 where it's just root and a stock rooted Rom.
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wont be super big. Its because we dont have kernel access. It would be all modding the system files. I actually have a modded SystemUI which is just the Note8's SystemUI built for android 7.0 and resigned. I dont want to root my phone again but i have it.
Came from years of rooting and roms...gonna miss it..
Seemingly so if you want to use Samsung it's gonna be stock anymore.
But the s8 stock features alone are enough to suffice and learn to live without the ways of the past.
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Flashing days are over?
androidddaaron said:
Came from years of rooting and roms...gonna miss it..
Seemingly so if you want to use Samsung it's gonna be stock anymore.
But the s8 stock features alone are enough to suffice and learn to live without the ways of the past.
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I'm on Tmobile. I have a TMO phone, locked and unrooted, and SM-G9500 (HK) unlocked and rooted. So here are some observations:
1. The TMO phone gets better reception (4XMIMO) , and it also translates to a much better battery life, compared to the G9500
2. VoLTE , WiFi calling , RCS, and other features that are not there on the G9500, and I couldn't just change CSC (simply bricked the G9500) with all my 10 years on the forum here, and flashing, it is still down (lost IMEI it is null and can't get it back)
3. There is very little bloatware bt TMO, really not much.
4. On frequent travel I make out of country, my TMO phone works on 140 countries, good enough for text, whatsapp . etc. Most surfing I do I have WiFi..
5. Being on a business plan, I get GOGO for free flying worldwide with TMO while in air.
So after 10 years being here on this forum, I found no reason to root, flash, ***** about locked BL, it is simply a good phone AS-IS.. :victory:
Besides the urge to visit the forum 5 times per day, I have decided to go with the US version (SD) and ditch Exynos. I still keep my S7 (Exynos) around so when I feel like flashing, I can.. :laugh:
BigE said:
I'm on Tmobile. I have a TMO phone, locked and unrooted, and SM-G9500 (HK) unlocked and rooted. So here are some observations:
1. The TMO phone gets better reception (4XMIMO) , and it also translates to a much better battery life, compared to the G9500
2. VoLTE , WiFi calling , RCS, and other features that are not there on the G9500, and I couldn't just change CSC (simply bricked the G9500) with all my 10 years on the forum here, and flashing, it is still down (lost IMEI it is null and can't get it back)
3. There is very little bloatware bt TMO, really not much.
4. On frequent travel I make out of country, my TMO phone works on 140 countries, good enough for text, whatsapp . etc. Most surfing I do I have WiFi..
5. Being on a business plan, I get GOGO for free flying worldwide with TMO while in air.
So after 10 years being here on this forum, I found no reason to root, flash, ***** about locked BL, it is simply a good phone AS-IS.. :victory:
Besides the urge to visit the forum 5 times per day, I have decided to go with the US version (SD) and ditch Exynos. I still keep my S7 (Exynos) around so when I feel like flashing, I can.. :laugh:
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I have an S7 (Snapdragon) and I can't exactly say that having a locked bootloader means that there is NO activity; with just us there are two projects - stang5litre (a semicustom MM firmware) and Project L (another semicustom firmware based on the S8 N firmware - Bixby and all); I am, in fact, running v.4 of L on my ex-VZW S7 on T-Mobile. Because both are semi-custom, they are quite flashable using either ODIN or a combo of ODIN and FlashFire. It's different than the unlocked BL that I had with the Galaxy Nexus that the S7 replaced; however, there ARE compensations compared to the GNex (for one, I'm not trapped in LTE Band 13 Hades as is typical with the GNex - even on VZW). And don't get me started on the lack of VoLTE and wi-fi calling - even with the S7 on VZW (on T-Mobile, I have both).

Too Little Too Late Sprint

Finally Sprint has released Pie! I layed down for a nap today (needed one especially after the Holidays), get up and notice my phone stating there is an OS update. I am now running Pie but what's funny is my wife and I switched to Verizon today, we're waiting for our new phones to be shipped to us before we quit Sprint.
I loved my V40 but it was both LG and Sprint that made us switch. The update service is total garbage. I would get monthly security updates once every 2-3 months and not getting Pie on a flagship phone only until like a year later is garbage. My wife and I literally have no service on Sprint in our new area and rely on wifi for everything on our phones. Now I wait a few days to get my new Galaxy S10+. No more LG and no more Sprint.
Welp it's time to say goodbye to the LG V40 forums and hello to S10+. Got my new S10+ today and switched to Verizon.
I'm enjoying the new Android 10 OS ?
XxTripleBeamxX said:
Finally Sprint has released Pie! I layed down for a nap today (needed one especially after the Holidays), get up and notice my phone stating there is an OS update. I am now running Pie but what's funny is my wife and I switched to Verizon today, we're waiting for our new phones to be shipped to us before we quit Sprint.
I loved my V40 but it was both LG and Sprint that made us switch. The update service is total garbage. I would get monthly security updates once every 2-3 months and not getting Pie on a flagship phone only until like a year later is garbage. My wife and I literally have no service on Sprint in our new area and rely on wifi for everything on our phones. Now I wait a few days to get my new Galaxy S10+. No more LG and no more Sprint.
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Interested in selling the v40?
TheMadScientist said:
Interested in selling the v40?
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I would but still making payments on it to Sprint so we're sending our phones back and account will be closed.

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