Mi 9 Development support - Xiaomi Mi 9 Questions & Answers

Hello! I am thinking about getting a Mi 9 after a Huawei Mate 10 Pro hardbrick.. How good is the development support from Xiaomi? Are they more open and kind to developers than Huawei? How big are the risk of bricking a Xiaomi phone, and how are the chances of recovering from the bricked state if it would happen?
Thanks

I wondering the same thing as well. Im from the United States and this would be my first Xaomi Phone.
Currently using a Oneplus 5t and its still running great.

The development is going steady for a phone that has recently launched, and that didn't have a simultaneous worldwide release.
There are one-click tools to unbrick this phone already, and AFAIK haven't seen anyone bricking a phone beyond a point it couldn't have been recovered. So, fiddling with it is safe.

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LTE B20 for Zuk Z2 (non-pro)

Hello Everybody,
I will have a Z2 soon and I was thinking maybe possible to change the NVRAM values and unlock some LTE bands.
Is there anybody who has experimented with this one?
Is there any hardware (RF?) limitation?
I have seen some threads in the past where the users made experiments with Qualcomm based phones to turn on some LTE bands and for some of them they were be able to do it, so who knows, maybe we can also turn it on.
I tried that with my Xiaomi Mi 5 for a few weeks. And although I had electrical engineering in college I was unable to get it working. Also visited the Xiaomi forum a lot but in the end someone told me that it has been disabled by Qualcomm, the SD820 that Xiaomi gets from Qualcomm has it somehow disabled. Not sure if it is true or not but I never got it working. Sold the Mi 5 at some point and bought a ZUK Z2 Pro.
So, don't be surprised if it doesn't work but still good luck to you and your effort.
You can try it and melt the modem or get cancer. It isn't worth doing so just get the Pro.
slead1 said:
I tried that with my Xiaomi Mi 5 for a few weeks. And although I had electrical engineering in college I was unable to get it working. Also visited the Xiaomi forum a lot but in the end someone told me that it has been disabled by Qualcomm, the SD820 that Xiaomi gets from Qualcomm has it somehow disabled. Not sure if it is true or not but I never got it working. Sold the Mi 5 at some point and bought a ZUK Z2 Pro.
So, don't be surprised if it doesn't work but still good luck to you and your effort.
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Karly Johnston said:
You can try it and melt the modem or get cancer. It isn't worth doing so just get the Pro.
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It's not so important for me, so I will stay with the Z2, it was just an idea. Who knows, maybe possible.

May giving Huawei a chance. Mind consider buying Mate 10 pro.

After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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If you are in the states don't buy the c567 model go for the international one. IS models are not receiving updates as frequently as European model
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The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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The ROMS for the Mate 10 pro aren't perfect. If you want to run AOSP or something closer to it like near stock android, the one plus 5T is the stable option. If you are okay with the EMUI then the Mate 10 pro has better hardware IMO. If you like to tinker with less than perfect ROMS, then I'd go with the Mate 10 Pro but I'm sure the one plus 5T has more ROM development.
That's my two cents.
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Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
The Restless Soul said:
Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
javierty said:
hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
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Unlock. Downgrade is free IF possible. For example:
On BLA-L29C432B142 you can use DC. On B145 it doesn't work but can be downgraded using service firmware. B146 or higher can not be downgraded past B146. Build is not the same on every cust, so if you are on C636 the build where DC works is different. But generally it's May patch firmware.
Paid expensive unlock is done by FH and ministryofsolutions. If you have rebranded using FH before you can not use their service (FH Rebrand changes your imei in fastboot).
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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My phone has 3 issues with EMUI 5 updates (when it launched for the first time). I made a post about it on my account. I just want a long run phone. Do you think this is worth the money or 5T is better?
Well? Should i waste my time with Huawei again or move on with Oneplus/ google pixel 1?
Actually the Mate 10 pro is an excellent device.. But considering the possibilities of an one plus 5 or 6, I'd not go with Huawei anymore.
Same. Mate 10 pro has so many great features but it is not a long run device. I can see myself changing it in 2 years after Huawei will kill my phone like their attempt with my P9 lite. Oneplus 5T is a great deal for me but the camera is not as impressive like on Mate 10 pro and only has 64gb. The fast charging is pretty neat on 5T, but the long lasting battery on Mate 10 pro is very nice for me too.
Idk which to pick. I can go for 5T for the long run (which may keep me more than 4 years due to development), but we will see what will happen during christmas. Either way, i have the google pixel pinned on my shopping list. If Oneplus 5T 128gb gets cheaper, then i will go for 5T.
Also Mate 10 pro doesn't have the bootloader unlocked, thus the phone aging from outdated software.
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
The Restless Soul said:
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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I could had gone for oneplus 5T but i don't want to go change my rom just when i purchase it. Huawei killed my nerves with the warranty. So you got your mate 10 pro too?
I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy. Again, i can buy it but i don't want to change the software just when it was fresh bought.
Mate 10 pro has many features and great design. Also the pc mode is very very cool and it does not need a dock. Also has always on display, which Oneplus 5T has only by rooting it (unless Oneplus implements it). But, as we know, Huawei has terrible software support and warranty as well (warranty being my case).
In my opinion, i think Mate 10 pro is a better value for the simple fact that has water resistance, pixel-like camera, 4k battery and other hidden features, but i have to send my cousin to buy it so HUAWEI won't add anything sketchy in it :laugh::laugh::laugh:.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
I want to hear your opinions about these 2 devices. I want to buy a phone for the long run. This is my opinion. Sorry that the post feels weird, but i am always skeptical of buying new phones, especially "flagships"
The Restless Soul said:
The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
ghostofcain said:
I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
The Restless Soul said:
Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
ghostofcain said:
I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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So what should i buy between those 2 devices?

Should i switch to Nokia 7 Plus?

I have a 4/64GB Xiaomi Mi A2, bought it the exact same month it was release so I think I have one of the first units.
With that being said, I have noticed some backlight bleeding with this device over the course of 5 months, I'm also affected by the eMMC "bug".
And since Xiaomi keeps screwing up more and more within each newest (and late) monthly system update, I keep noticing this phone's counterpart, Nokia 7 Plus, isn't suffering from those issues.
So I have the opportunity to return this device back to Amazon and getting my full money back, so I figured I'd pick up either the 128GB version of Xiaomi Mi A2 or a Nokia 7 Plus of 64GB as well.
I need an opinion on this.
Yepi69 said:
I have a 4/64GB Xiaomi Mi A2, bought it the exact same month it was release so I think I have one of the first units.
With that being said, I have noticed some backlight bleeding with this device over the course of 5 months, I'm also affected by the eMMC "bug".
And since Xiaomi keeps screwing up more and more within each newest (and late) monthly system update, I keep noticing this phone's counterpart, Nokia 7 Plus, isn't suffering from those issues.
So I have the opportunity to return this device back to Amazon and getting my full money back, so I figured I'd pick up either the 128GB version of Xiaomi Mi A2 or a Nokia 7 Plus of 64GB as well.
I need an opinion on this.
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This will definitely be a wise thing to do,
Nokia 7 plus excels in every department (aside from Camera and day to day snappiness) , You will really enjoy having a more bug free experience
I've used a Nokia before and I wouldn't go back to another Nokia device although they're well built. One thing that I've personally noticed and others have reported with their Nokia devices too is that with every android upgrade the overall system performance degrades. On top of that, there is no official bootloader unlock method for majority of Nokia devices including Nokia 7 plus and no much third-party development.
It's a typical 'the grass is greener on the other side' effect. The Nokia 7 plus has its own set of android pie issues, just check its forum.. Nokia devices generally have horrible ram management even with greater ram capacities.
I personally love my Mi A2 and would never go back to a Nokia even if I want to change my device. Maybe try and get your Mi A2 replaced to get the emmc bug fixed? ?* I personally don't have the bug so my experience with this device is probably different from yours.
Quick look on the Nokias xda page reveals it has it's own bugs and if you are into custom roms and stuff it's lacking even more in development. Couple of my friends have 7 plus and my A2 is outperforming them in every category altough it's not fair comparison since I haven't been on stock rom in months. In my opinion a2 is better phone and I never experienced any bug aside that my mmc is also one of those ****ty micron ones, but it doesn't have any impact at all in day to day use. I think that bug is just exaggerated by bunch of benchmarkwankers.
In the end it all comes down to personal preference. But if I were you I would definately go for a change just for the fun of it.
Get the 128gb version. The Samsung flash memory doesn't suffer from the read write bug and if you can get it for like under 200USD (I got mine on sale for 190) then it's the best bargain ever....
Well of course it comes with bugs but still a bargain though lol
wait for the pixel lite
I would never buy a completely locked Android phone, since software support sucks on all of them.
If I had to buy a locked phone, it would be an iPhone
Amazon has the 128GB but not for that price, although it seems the grass is greener on the other side, Nokia 7 Plus has a few features I wish Mi A2 had, like micro SD slot and NFC respectively
Yepi69 said:
Amazon has the 128GB but not for that price, although it seems the grass is greener on the other side, Nokia 7 Plus has a few features I wish Mi A2 had, like micro SD slot and NFC respectively
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I have to agree with you on the sd card and nfc part. I miss those features too.
You don't have to get the 128gb version to fix the emmc bug. I have 32gb version (I bought it last month so it's probably the newer batch with the fixed emmc). Just try and send it in for warranty.
But if you want another device, I would suggest the redmi note 7 - another device by Xiaomi (now redmi is a brand of its own). It doesn't run stock android though and instead runs miui 10 and has all of the features the mi a2 doesn't.
If you're looking for budget stock android, then the Nokia phones are probably your only other best option. Keeping in mind the bootloader unlock is basically non existent.
Some other devices I came across were motorola one power and asus zenfone Max pro M1. Hop onto their respective forums here on XDA and see how active the development for them is.
If you're someone who upgrades phones every year or two and don't mess around with the phone, then you don't have to bother with bootloader unlocking and modding. In that case, the Nokia 7 plus would be a good buy.
Ashik_salim_ said:
I have to agree with you on the sd card and nfc part. I miss those features too.
You don't have to get the 128gb version to fix the emmc bug. I have 32gb version (I bought it last month so it's probably the newer batch with the fixed emmc). Just try and send it in for warranty.
But if you want another device, I would suggest the redmi note 7 - another device by Xiaomi (now redmi is a brand of its own). It doesn't run stock android though and instead runs miui 10 and has all of the features the mi a2 doesn't.
If you're looking for budget stock android, then the Nokia phones are probably your only other best option. Keeping in mind the bootloader unlock is basically non existent.
Some other devices I came across were motorola one power and asus zenfone Max pro M1. Hop onto their respective forums here on XDA and see how active the development for them is.
If you're someone who upgrades phones every year or two and don't mess around with the phone, then you don't have to bother with bootloader unlocking and modding. In that case, the Nokia 7 plus would be a good buy.
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That's the thing, my current Mi A2 is bootloader unlocked and using Pixel Experience due to Xiaomi's incompetence with updates.
I figure the 128GB version has the eMMC bug but just in case if I buy the same exact model, will you think it's a newer batch? There's no way to check either.
Alright, I've owned both the Mi A2 and the Nokia 7 Plus so I think I can give you a better breakdown. Both phones are good and both phones are solid. It really depends on what you prioritize more.
Mi A2:
Thinner and sleeker
Better camera and video
Lighter
More RAM and Memory variant
Has more custom development support
Nokia 7 Plus:
Better battery
Feels premium
Nice unique back texture
Heavier
But the Nokia 8.1 just came out, maybe you should check that out too?
Nokia 7 Plus Pros:
-Great Battery
-Good Cameras, not the best but good in proper lighting
-Great Build
-Cam2Api enabled by default
Cons:
i. No bug fixes since first Pie release, they only send patches
ii. Low light cam bad
iii. Late updates i.e blot on the name of Android enterprise recommend
iv. Software not optimized properly, lags, freezing,etc
v. Can't unlock bootloader
I have both MiA2 and N7P, there is not much difference except better battery in N7P, but Mia2's battery improved after hard reset from recovery and following proper charge cycle.

Help I'm a noob with a question about the K20 Pro running Android. UK - Vodaphone

Hi guys,
So this phone seems amazing for the price and specs, but obviously, it doesn't run android.
Now my question is, I currently have a S7 Edge running the custom ROM (superman rom) and I've done a few custom ROMs so think I'd be confident if there was a guide to also do this to the K20 pro to make it the perfect phone.
My question is:
1. Do they make a guide to flash stock android or some form of android on this phone?
2. does the phone work in the UK on Vodaphone network?
3. is there another phone I should be looking at? the Oneplus 6t doesn't seem much of an upgrade for the money from the S7 Edge I've had for the last 3 years :\
thanks!
domyadig said:
Hi guys,
So this phone seems amazing for the price and specs, but obviously, it doesn't run android.
Now my question is, I currently have a S7 Edge running the custom ROM (superman rom) and I've done a few custom ROMs so think I'd be confident if there was a guide to also do this to the K20 pro to make it the perfect phone.
My question is:
1. Do they make a guide to flash stock android or some form of android on this phone?
2. does the phone work in the UK on Vodaphone network?
3. is there another phone I should be looking at? the Oneplus 6t doesn't seem much of an upgrade for the money from the S7 Edge I've had for the last 3 years :\
thanks!
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It is Android, just not as you know it.
At the moment the phone hasn't been released globally, so there's very little custom ROM development yet. It'll be released in India next week, but globally in a could of months, maybe. So it'll be a while yet before there's some progress with other ROMs. GSI ROMs work OK for the most part, and Phhuson's AOSP GSI will, obviously give you the purest Android. Though there are still a few issues with them, which for some, myself included, can be lived with, whilst others they will be deal breakers. There are guides for flashing ROMs on this phone. Have a look in the K20 Pro threads here.
The phone will work OK, for the most part in the UK. It lacks band 20. So EE will give the best coverage and O2 the worst. It 'should' be OK on Vodafone and Three with maybe the occasional patch that still relies on band 20 for compete coverage. EE would give you compete coverage and O2 probably wouldn't work outside of major towns and cities.
There's the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro, though the Pro does have a large jump in price. Close to stock Android out of the box and OnePlus devices have the biggest custom ROM scene.
There's the Mi 9, which has a global version and some movement starting to happen on the custom ROMs.
Or there's the Asus ZenFone 6, which comes with a fairly stock android out of the box. Asus have tentatively reached out to the developer community and provided a small number of xda devs with a free phone, so there should be more development than you'd normally see on an Asus phone.
Robbo.5000 said:
It is Android, just not as you know it.
At the moment the phone hasn't been released globally, so there's very little custom ROM development yet. It'll be released in India next week, but globally in a could of months, maybe. So it'll be a while yet before there's some progress with other ROMs. GSI ROMs work OK for the most part, and Phhuson's AOSP GSI will, obviously give you the purest Android. Though there are still a few issues with them, which for some, myself included, can be lived with, whilst others they will be deal breakers. There are guides for flashing ROMs on this phone. Have a look in the K20 Pro threads here.
The phone will work OK, for the most part in the UK. It lacks band 20. So EE will give the best coverage and O2 the worst. It 'should' be OK on Vodafone and Three with maybe the occasional patch that still relies on band 20 for compete coverage. EE would give you compete coverage and O2 probably wouldn't work outside of major towns and cities.
There's the OnePlus 7 and 7 Pro, though the Pro does have a large jump in price. Close to stock Android out of the box and OnePlus devices have the biggest custom ROM scene.
There's the Mi 9, which has a global version and some movement starting to happen on the custom ROMs.
Or there's the Asus ZenFone 6, which comes with a fairly stock android out of the box. Asus have tentatively reached out to the developer community and provided a small number of xda devs with a free phone, so there should be more development than you'd normally see on an Asus phone.
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thanks for your reply,
the porblem is i have a s7 edge and can't really see why to spend £400+ plus on a phone that doesn't even do 1440p
it needs to have 1440p! lol
domyadig said:
thanks for your reply,
the porblem is i have a s7 edge and can't really see why to spend £400+ plus on a phone that doesn't even do 1440p
it needs to have 1440p! lol
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Because it will now cost you almost double that amount to get a new phone with 1440 display.
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Because it will now cost you almost double that amount to get a new phone with 1440 display.
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Is there any reason for this? I guess i should wait on a little while then.
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Is there any reason for this? I guess i should wait on a little while then.
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Yes. Any flagship phone with a QHD display will be marketed as a premium flagship and come with a premium price, look at the prices of the S10, the OP 7 Pro and the new Xperia phones. If you want a cheaper phone with QHD, then it will be a mid range SoC.
already have S8 Plus, running it as FHD+ to save the battery and can't feel or see the difference
I guess FHD+ is enough and battery friendly
domyadig said:
Hi guys,
So this phone seems amazing for the price and specs, but obviously, it doesn't run android.
Now my question is, I currently have a S7 Edge running the custom ROM (superman rom) and I've done a few custom ROMs so think I'd be confident if there was a guide to also do this to the K20 pro to make it the perfect phone.
My question is:
1. Do they make a guide to flash stock android or some form of android on this phone?
2. does the phone work in the UK on Vodaphone network?
3. is there another phone I should be looking at? the Oneplus 6t doesn't seem much of an upgrade for the money from the S7 Edge I've had for the last 3 years :\
thanks!
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If I were you right now with a 3 year old phone like you have there would be only one choice and that's the OnePlus 7 pro.definetly worth the few hundred extra for what your getting. Oxygen OS is hands down best software with Best QHD display you can get,if you dont mind full HD go with the normal 7 at a good price.
The redmi k20 pro will work fine but annoying Chinese software,maybe wait till September/October for a Mi 9T pro or November for a OnePlus 7T with possible standard version with a design similar to the k20.
Look at Xiaomi.eu rom for k20 pro if your going with that. It takes away all the bloat of the Chinese version with weekly updates based on Chinese official

Question Should I wait for OnePlus 11?

Hi folks, I've been a Xiaomi user for the past 5 years and I'm looking to change this because lately, all the Chinese variants of the devices lack essential bands needed in Europe. I used to buy Chinese variants, install miui.eu on them and enjoy paying less for them. Now that they've decided not to include Europe bands on them, I decided to come back to OnePlus. My last OnePlus was the 3.
What I'm curious about, is if it will be possible to do the same with OnePlus 11 and change from Chinese colouros to oxigenos and have a locked bootloader, like I have seen it's already possible on this device, and the 10T?
Thanks
Just stay on xiaomi or move pixel.
OnePlus is not giving us free tool to flash or fox our devices.
So most of people that tried that bricked their devices.
Go for xiaomi or wait next pixel
I do not think it's worth it.
Minimal differences compared to 10 pro.
It's kinda like a roll of the dice
OnePlus innovation has halted,
MSM Tool is behind a pay-wall,
OPPO dishing out C&D notices,
TWRP and ROM development essentially dead (largely due to no MSM)
OOS / ColourOS is atrocious
We have only just had a somewhat functional TWRP after a year
I would NEVER get another OnePlus (I have owned the 3T, 5, 6, 7Pro and 10 Pro)
I will likely move to a pixel device after.
[email protected] said:
I do not think it's worth it.
Minimal differences compared to 10 pro.
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Except for the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which I'm after.
My options so far are:
Motorola x40
Nubia z50
Iqoo 11/11pro
Vivo x90 pro+
Redmagic 8
But none of them can run global version of the ROMs.
Xiaomi 13 pro is amazing and I can install the eu version or the ROM, but Chinese variant is missing band 20, so my option would be to wait for OnePlus 11
PlasmaTornado said:
OnePlus innovation has halted,
MSM Tool is behind a pay-wall,
OPPO dishing out C&D notices,
TWRP and ROM development essentially dead (largely due to no MSM)
OOS / ColourOS is atrocious
We have only just had a somewhat functional TWRP after a year
I would NEVER get another OnePlus (I have owned the 3T, 5, 6, 7Pro and 10 Pro)
I will likely move to a pixel device after
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I'm in the exact same boat. I've had OnePlus for many years, started with the 7 Pro a long time ago. But this 10 Pro will be my last. That Cease and Desist topic is definitely the last straw for me, how can a company do such a 180 so quickly? From the best dev option to the worst in one major release.
Wish I would have got the 9 Pro instead when I was buying. But I'll keep the 10 Pro for a another year at least as it is a solid phone deapite the terrible company owning it now. Then I'll switch to Pixel most likely, seems Google has no intention of locking down Android, which is what it should have been all along.
Prant said:
I'm in the exact same boat. I've had OnePlus for many years, started with the 7 Pro a long time ago. But this 10 Pro will be my last. That Cease and Desist topic is definitely the last straw for me, how can a company do such a 180 so quickly? From the best dev option to the worst in one major release.
Wish I would have got the 9 Pro instead when I was buying. But I'll keep the 10 Pro for a another year at least as it is a solid phone deapite the terrible company owning it now. Then I'll switch to Pixel most likely, seems Google has no intention of locking down Android, which is what it should have been all along.
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Exactly how I feel. Before I felt completely safe developing with every other OP device.
I don't even want to compile a TWRP for this device as bricking is now permanent (unless I pay a third party)
It is a terrible thing
Prant said:
how can a company do such a 180 so quickly?
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the 8T was the last phone Oneplus produced. OPPO bought oneplus after that.
g96818 said:
the 8T was the last phone Oneplus produced. OPPO bought oneplus after that.
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OnePlus has always been owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK. BBK successfully fooled the western world into thinking OnePlus was something different to grow their marketshare and now they're too big to give a crap so they removed the illusion of separate companies entirely and brought the OnePlus team directly under the Oppo team.
EtherealRemnant said:
OnePlus has always been owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK. BBK successfully fooled the western world into thinking OnePlus was something different to grow their marketshare and now they're too big to give a crap so they removed the illusion of separate companies entirely and brought the OnePlus team directly under the Oppo team.
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no it wasn't. it was started by two ex-oppo employees with oppo support, but was separately operated. one of the two co-founders left around the oneplus 5 period and the 8t was the last oneplus phone released before Carl Pei (the other co-founder) left. oppo fully absorbed oneplus afterwards
g96818 said:
no it wasn't. it was started by two ex-oppo employees with oppo support, but was separately operated. one of the two co-founders left around the oneplus 5 period and the 8t was the last oneplus phone released before Carl Pei (the other co-founder) left. oppo fully absorbed oneplus afterwards
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The fact that it was run as if it was a separate company doesn't change the fact that it never was actually a separate company.
XDRdaniel said:
Except for the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which I'm after.
My options so far are:
Motorola x40
Nubia z50
Iqoo 11/11pro
Vivo x90 pro+
Redmagic 8
But none of them can run global version of the ROMs.
Xiaomi 13 pro is amazing and I can install the eu version or the ROM, but Chinese variant is missing band 20, so my option would be to wait for OnePlus 11
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you could also wait for ASUS to release their next ROG phone. It will also have SD 8 gen 2 and should be out around april since that last one was released around then with the gen 1.
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The fact that it was run as if it was a separate company doesn't change the fact that it never was actually a separate company.
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The fact that you think oppo owned oneplus from the beginning doesn't change the fact that it was a separate company.
g96818 said:
The fact that you think oppo owned oneplus from the beginning doesn't change the fact that it was a separate company.
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It wasn't a separate company. Oppo has always been the parent company. Google OnePlus ownership and look. Results older than last year say Oppo is a subsidiary of BBK and the parent company of OnePlus.
Don't bother responding, I'm not going to engage in this argument any further about an irrelevant garbage Chinese company.
OnePlus doesn't worth even for 1 cent
F*ck OppoPlus !!
We must strongly boycott this fake OnePlus !!
Am using Android for years now. Started with a Xperia X8. Went then on Nexus 4 and 5. After that I bought my first OnePlus. I had the 3, 5T, 6, 7. Still I'm rocking the 8T. But I made a big big mistake on buying the 10T.. I will try to sell this..... This was the best company. Now it's gone. They vanished the software, they terminated all development for latest series, they gave damn green lines in endless screen models of the 8-9 series after the so called Oxygen OS 12 (ugly buggy MIUI-Color OS 12-CHEAP OEM style Color OS). Instead of turning their ugly OEM software into Oxygen OS, they did the opposite. Honestly buy whatever you want EXCEPT OPPOPLUS.
So weird, everyone seems to hate OnePlus now. Times sure have changed since I had my OnePlus 3 where development was amazing. Sad. I'll be skipping OnePlus base on your recommendations
XDRdaniel said:
So weird, everyone seems to hate OnePlus now. Times sure have changed since I had my OnePlus 3 where development was amazing. Sad. I'll be skipping OnePlus base on your recommendations
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a VERY WISE decision. We were all scammed by OPPOPLUS

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