Is this phone really worth it? - Nubia Red Magic 3 Questions & Answers

In the upcoming month or so I'll be able to afford spending about 450 to 500 euros on a new device. I'm on a tight budget and my current Galaxy A5 2017 doesn't cut it anymore. I thought that coriscanu's Pie port would've kept it alive for more but seeing as development is mostly halted, I don't find the phone that good, especially with how bad it's hardware is.
And looking out of curiosity online, I found this phone. It had practically everything I could dream of. Actually. Here are the main aspects that intrigued me regarding this device:
90 Hz Display that is also AMOLED and 6.65" big
SD855
27W Fast-Charging
THAT COOLING FAN
Headphone jack
Phone body design
Thing I'm not sure I dig:
Software
And now I'm coming forward to ask this: Is the Global version that bad? I mean, I even saw that somebody around here tried to go from NA Global to Chinese and it almost destroyed their device. Not only that, the phone lost many features from the chinese ROM, and I would like to have what the chinese ROM has minus the crap bloat and chances for the phone to die.
Is this phone really worth it in it's package or am I better of just clenching my butt cheeks for another month or two and look like something like a OP7Pro? Note: I do like this phone a lot because of the fan. I could in fact make use of it's hardware properly without the heat just killing me.
Thank you for your time and responses!

All great (and relevant) questions!
I'm in the same boat but looking more at a luxury upgrade from a OnePlus 6T, which is a great phone, so wondering if it is 'worth it'?!

It's aosp android with no features. You can root and add most features easily, except DC dimming, and gcam/raw (something is wrong with the camera the global version, haven't bothered flashing the Chinese version.)
If you've owned a Google nexus device in the past, it's a similar experience.

Secretcow said:
It's aosp android with no features. You can root and add most features easily, except DC dimming, and gcam/raw (something is wrong with the camera the global version, haven't bothered flashing the Chinese version.)
If you've owned a Google nexus device in the past, it's a similar experience.
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No DC dimming or raw capability? Jesus. Well, I can survive with it if it comes with it's basic "gaming" utility which it does and I'm pretty sure that the chinese version of the software can be taken care of... mostly.
Well, up until now I'm still willing to go with this phone, especially if somebody makes a guide on how to go from EU Global to Chinese with working gapps.

The global version is the better version, zero bloatware. You still get the game launcher button, fan control, led strip, overclocking thing, and buttons. The Chinese version looks terrible. The hardware is capable of dc dimming.
Easiest way to flash between global and chinese versions is to:
1) Have a usb otg drive. Put rom on that.
2) Flash Chinese rom through stock recovery.
3) Unlock bootloader, etc, etc. Flash twrp. Boot into twrp right after you flash it.
4) Wipe or reflash rom, and add flash pico gaaps before rebooting.
5) If you want to go back to the global rom, you can just wipe, then flash it in twrp or stock recovery.

Thanks man!
One big question. Will anything bad happen to the phone? I mean, Samsung phones have a knox counter and that perma triggers once you root or elss.

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How good is this phone? Is it worth going for this at this stage?

need some ques for firsthand users...is it laggy or smooth...hearing a lot of complaints about it...
go ahead, best phone at this price
There are touch issues with many of them, mine had also gone back to the service centre for touch repairs. Careful where you buy it from, you might not get warranty option
regret, i brought it based on its excellent specifications.
worst phone i ever had (china version).
better to buy xiaomi than lenovo, better of the worst.
saintsoh said:
regret, i brought it based on its excellent specifications.
worst phone i ever had (china version).
better to buy xiaomi than lenovo, better of the worst.
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what happened with your phone? the phone was pretty good in my opinion, did everything so well, i wish the camera was better but for the price its good. I only started the have touch issues after i dropped it from about 1.5m on concrete. I had the indian version but they are identical with different names and boxes
This phone is good..
If this phone is not good then xda won't let it have its own forum..
All those developers don't develope their rom or
They don't give all those supports..
For me its awesome..
You want the truth? Here you go!
I'm an end user of this phone myself and it is literally the worst phone I had ever experience because of this Phone I had to learn how to root and install custom recovery which I never done before in quite a while on the get-go. Not to mention that I had to learn about Xposed because it lacks customisation options. The Official OS sucks the worst trully! I prefer Nexus ROM by Dr. Root better. Specs are ok for the price and if you use Nexus Custom ROM as mentioned previously you will have a lot of free space for RAM. If you are a normal end consumer who wants it easy either look for another phone OR buy an iPhone, but if you have interest in technology and wants to customise your software, look no further this is by far the best cheap phone I used so far.
Here are the MUST you need:
1) Interest in android
2) Tech Savvy
3) Learn to root in anyway possible i.e. One-click root, SP Flash tool and/or adb fastboot
4) Learn more about Xposed framework
5) Learn to flash custom recovery using mobile uncle (or anything similar), SP Flash Tool and/or adb fastboot
Optional but very effective that you don't need the previos 5
6) Have a friend that can do number 1-5.
Once a gain and I quote "If you are a normal end consumer who wants it easy either look for another phone OR buy an iPhone, but if you have interest in technology and wants to customise your software, look no further this is by far the best cheap phone I used so far.". The Official ROM is full of bloatware that hogs your RAM thus choosing a Custom ROM is compulsory.
rpgiqbal said:
I had to learn how to root and install custom recovery which I never done before in quite a while on the get-go. Not to mention that I had to learn about Xposed because it lacks customisation options. The Official OS sucks the worst trully!
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No mate, you didnt have to learn it, you chose to do this yourself, you couldve simply used a stock launcher, but you didnt, you had youtube reviews showing it all, but you ignored that and still purchased the phone. The stock one isnt bad and the stock OS does not suck so dont go ahead blaming it because you didnt like it and made poor decisions.
buy an iPhone
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if someone is looking at buying this phone, why would they opt for an iphone which is 5 times the price?
OP its all about preference, if you have a price range and cant go higher, go for this phone, keep in mind, it has no app drawer, but you get used to it, also if you want an app drawer or stock feel, you can always install a launcher like google launcher or nova. This phone is very good for its price and i would highly recommend it, just be warned about the touch issues many users are facing
stock OS is one of the biggest sh*t (chinese version).
the moment it is connected, if u r lucky using wifi, otherwise data connection cost money wasted on all the bloated malwares downloaded.
worst of all, lenovo game center, apps/games applicable to china only.
if it is ROW (Rest-Of-the-World) maybe better, no gapps for chinese version.
local radio (ota) cut-off every 15 minutes.
speaker too small and soft, always missed call in my pocket.
heat up every fast.
everything in chinese widgets/themes/fonts...........
weather only in china cities......
lists continue....unable to uninstall bloatware, some unable to disable............
block all bloatwares permission to data connection/wifi/auto-start run/background-run still some able to auto-run............
how good can stock os be?
nonsense, it is so bad, tats why custom roms are put up on xda......
ps;
since i had this phone, there r several major updates (chinese version) in just a few months. this will never happens to any phone makers, reasons is very simply....too many sh*tty problems.
op if u r not tech savvy or know basic linux commands, get yourself a xiaomi. at least they provide google installation apps, world-wide recognitions (not limited to regions eg. china, india, russia) and lesser problems from the go-start.
pss;
i had to use Mediatek engineering mode app to boost volume level, risk damaging to the phone speaker or my expensive head-set.
psss;
one last sh*t from lenovo.......install lenovo usb driver......it will load chinese malwares.
pssss;
i promise this will be the last of my sh*t......ROW (Rest-Of-the-World) does not means the WORLD, it meant for india and russia. if u live in these countries, its ok to buy.
Hartik said:
No mate, you didnt have to learn it, you chose to do this yourself, you couldve simply used a stock launcher, but you didnt, you had youtube reviews showing it all, but you ignored that and still purchased the phone. The stock one isnt bad and the stock OS does not suck so dont go ahead blaming it because you didnt like it and made poor decisions.
if someone is looking at buying this phone, why would they opt for an iphone which is 5 times the price?
OP its all about preference, if you have a price range and cant go higher, go for this phone, keep in mind, it has no app drawer, but you get used to it, also if you want an app drawer or stock feel, you can always install a launcher like google launcher or nova. This phone is very good for its price and i would highly recommend it, just be warned about the touch issues many users are facing
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I never think it was a mistake, for me. It was good that I purchase the phone with faulty ROM since I get to learn anything and everything about android. It's a win for me since the specs ain't bad.
Buy it if you want some adventure with android.
one of the Best community for a mid-range phone.
I learned a lot of things by using this phone.
From flashing custom ROMs, using SPFlash Tools(Really helpful, helped many of my friends to recover from bricking.)
I suggest you to buy this phone.

UK owner opinions

Hi guys,
Could anyone in the UK who has bought one of these, let me know what they think?
Where did you buy it?
Did it work straight out of the box without any flashing needed?
Which ROM came installed on it?
Does Google Play store work fine?
Any issues with Banking Apps?
Does Android Pay work ok on it?
I need to choose between this one, and the Huawei Mate 9.
Thanks to anyone who can take time to give me their opinion of it now they have one.
greatcapp said:
Hi guys,
Could anyone in the UK who has bought one of these, let me know what they think?
Where did you buy it?
Did it work straight out of the box without any flashing needed?
Which ROM came installed on it?
Does Google Play store work fine?
Any issues with Banking Apps?
Does Android Pay work ok on it?
I need to choose between this one, and the Huawei Mate 9.
Thanks to anyone who can take time to give me their opinion of it now they have one.
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Considering there are only two variants of the device (4/128 & 6/256) available, I don't see how a "UK" buyer's opinion would be any different from that of others.
Now, to answer your questions, most buyers here, have bought from Chinavasion and Flosmall as they have ready stock and promise fast shipping. Wondamobile is also recommended by many and their prices are inclusive of import charges. The price you pay on Wondamobile is the final price. Flosmall also offers a similar option if you choose to opt for their "EU customs insurance". If you opt for this, they claim that they will refund any import charges paid to customs minus DHL's clearance processing charges, within 1 business day of submitting the customs invoice to them.
2. It will work straight out of the box without the need for any flashing as most vendors ship it with a customized ROM with Google services pre-installed. There are no issues with the vendor ROM but it is recommended that you switch to the EU beta ROM or one of the custom ROMs available, if you need updates.
3. Android Pay should work on phones with bootloader locked. If your phone comes with an unlocked bootloader, its fairly easy to relock it using Fastboot.
And when you compare the Mix with the Mate 9,
Mate 9 - Pros
The Mate 9 has a slightly better quality IPS display. (Same FHD resolution, but higher pixel density due to smaller 5.9inch screen, slightly better contrast and colors.) - Source: GSMArena Display Tests. The Perceived quality difference is almost negligible though. The Mix also has one of the best FHD IPS panels in the market.
I have compared both displays side by side and both look equally great. So its up to you to decide whether numbers matter.
The Mate 9 has one of the best cameras on a flagship phone. So if you are someone who takes a lot of photos, the Mix isn't for you.
Expandable Storage via Microsd on the Mate 9, but do you need more than 256 GB of UFS 2.1 Fast onboard storage on the Mix?
Mate 9 - Cons
The Mate 9 has a Kirin 960 processor. While CPU speed is close to the Snapdragon 821, the GPU is slightly weaker. The main drawback however, is that the Kirin Chipset is not as developer friendly as a Snapdragon.
There are fewer custom ROMS for Custom designed chipsets like Huawei's Kirin and Samsung's Exynos. Any stable custom ROMS you find will be based on the base OS.
Forget stable AOSP\CM\Lineage OS development. Most developers prefer Snapdragon.
Once\If Xiaomi releases the kernel sources for the Mix, the device will definitely be open to development. This is one of the reasons why I chose the Mix over the Mate 9. I've used Samsung phones before and none of them had decent custom ROMS due to the Exynos chipset. So I wanted a Snapdragon based device as development makes your device more future proof.
The International Version of the Mate 9, MHA-L29 only has 4GB RAM at the moment. There are rumours of a 6GB L29 Variant though. As of now, only the Chinese variant (MHA- AL00) has 6GB RAM and 128GB Storage. While 4GB of RAM is more than sufficient, almost every flagship this year will come with 6GB as a minimum. So the Mix is more future-proof.
Smaller battery (4000maH) compared to the 4400mah battery of the Mix. And the Mix has excellent battery life.
While the design of the Mate 9 is decent, it isn't a head-turner like the Mix!
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
greatcapp said:
Hi guys,
Could anyone in the UK who has bought one of these, let me know what they think?
Where did you buy it?
Did it work straight out of the box without any flashing needed?
Which ROM came installed on it?
Does Google Play store work fine?
Any issues with Banking Apps?
Does Android Pay work ok on it?
I need to choose between this one, and the Huawei Mate 9.
Thanks to anyone who can take time to give me their opinion of it now they have one.
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Ok bought mine from gearbest paid £520 with the shipping 4g/128 via China post, took a bit longer but no custom payment. Bootloader unlocked so no android pay, PayPal works fine. I removed vendor rom because you don't get any updates. Installed Chinese stable ROM and Google play from mi market and it was fine. Have now installed EU ROM and wish I had done it before comes with play store. Depending on which network your on 4g works great, might struggle with o2 or Vodafone in most places. Bootloader can be relocked easily if you follow all the guides. Glad to own the mi mix.
Damn OP, how did you not thank this guy for his super detailed answer? He's the most helpful guy around here :laugh:
Thanks for the detailed replies guys, much appreciated,
I was looking at using Wonda Mobile and it seems that they ship it with Chinese ROM with Google Play installed.
They say it's not rooted, but does that mean either way that the bootloader is locked/unlocked, or is that entirely different (I''ve been very out of touch with rooting now, it's been years since I've done that)?
Would Chinese ROM stilll have English language on it if I wasn't confident in flashing the EU ROM? (I'll search for an idiot's guide to re-flash the phone).
Oh, and one more thing, the fact that it has no speaker at the top of the handset for making/receiving calls - I understand that the screen vibrates to allow you to hear (kind of). Does it actually work ok in real life?
Thanks again.
greatcapp said:
Thanks for the detailed replies guys, much appreciated,
I was looking at using Wonda Mobile and it seems that they ship it with Chinese ROM with Google Play installed.
They say it's not rooted, but does that mean either way that the bootloader is locked/unlocked, or is that entirely different (I''ve been very out of touch with rooting now, it's been years since I've done that)?
Would Chinese ROM stilll have English language on it if I wasn't confident in flashing the EU ROM? (I'll search for an idiot's guide to re-flash the phone).
Oh, and one more thing, the fact that it has no speaker at the top of the handset for making/receiving calls - I understand that the screen vibrates to allow you to hear (kind of). Does it actually work ok in real life?
Thanks again.
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The official Chinese ROM doesn't have Google play pre-installed. So its most probably a Vendor-customized ROM they are referring to. I bought mine from Chinavasion. It came with a Vendor ROM but it wasn't rooted and bootloader was locked. But there are others who received the device with bootloader unlocked. The phones don't come rooted though. You can always unlock and re-lock bootloader as its a fairly simple process once you receive your unlock code from Xiaomi. You need an unlocked bootloader for flashing ROMS and modifying core system files. So, it isn't a necessity unless you wish to switch ROMS.
The Vendor ROM is a multi-language ROM, so English is definitely there.
Regarding the earpiece, no issues whatsoever. As the sound isn't channeled through a dedicated earpiece, it may sound like the phone is in hands-free mode (The intensity of the sound is the same, no matter wherever you place your ear on the phone during a call) but otherwise no issues. It works quite well.
satishp said:
The official Chinese ROM doesn't have Google play pre-installed. So its most probably a Vendor-customized ROM they are referring to. I bought mine from Chinavasion. It came with a Vendor ROM but it wasn't rooted and bootloader was locked. But there are others who received the device with bootloader unlocked. The phones don't come rooted though. You can always unlock and re-lock bootloader as its a fairly simple process once you receive your unlock code from Xiaomi. You need an unlocked bootloader for flashing ROMS and modifying core system files. So, it isn't a necessity unless you wish to switch ROMS.
The Vendor ROM is a multi-language ROM, so English is definitely there.
Regarding the earpiece, no issues whatsoever. As the sound isn't channelled through a dedicated earpiece, it may sound like the phone is on hands-free mode (The intensity of the sound is the same, no matter wherever you place your ear on the phone during a call) but otherwise no issues. It works quite well.
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Once again, many thanks for your input. I'll give it some thought over the next few days and maybe take the plunge. :good:
greatcapp said:
Once again, many thanks for your input. I'll give it some thought over the next few days and maybe take the plunge. :good:
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I say if you're not willing to flash from vendor rom don't get 1 it may have English language but not UK only US which causes a few problems. If you really want one just flash EU or globe ROM
jazz452 said:
I say if you're not willing to flash from vendor rom don't get 1 it may have English language but not UK only US which causes a few problems. If you really want one just flash EU or globe ROM
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Thanks for your input.
What sort of issues do you think it may cause me?
I may be willing to go to the EU ROM I'm just a little wary having not tried rooting/flashing etc in many years now.
greatcapp said:
Thanks for your input.
What sort of issues do you think it may cause me?
I may be willing to go to the EU ROM I'm just a little wary having not tried rooting/flashing etc in many years now.
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I don't think you would face any issues by selecting US English! The only issue you may face with language set as "English US" instead of "English UK" may be slight variations in spelling of certain words.
For example, COLOR is the preferred spelling in American English whereas "COLOUR" is preferred when the phone uses UK English.
I don't know whether these minor differences matter to a lot of people but it most certainly doesn't affect user experience. I don't think this should even be a deciding factor when buying a phone.
Play store content is localized based on location data reported by Google's location services. So you aren't even missing out on anything and you will full have access to the UK Play store.
You can still utilize every feature of the device regardless of what language you've chosen. Hope you get the point.
But if you really need to have UK English on the device, you can always flash the EU ROM using one of the guides. Its a fairly simple process.
And regarding the Vendor ROM, a vendor wouldn't sell the device with a broken ROM. The ROM which came pre-installed on my device didn't have any issues. It didn't even have any Chinese bloatware.
My point is, the vendor ROM is perfectly fine until you feel the need to update to a newer software version. Most people import phones from China and use it with the Vendor ROM without any issues.
Its just a minority here on XDA and other forums who actually take the time and effort to flash ROMS and updates.
Cheers!
satishp said:
I don't think you would face any issues by selecting US English! The only issue you may face with language set as "English US" instead of "English UK" may be slight variations in spelling of certain words.
For example, COLOR is the preferred spelling in American English whereas "COLOUR" is preferred when the phone uses UK English.
I don't know whether these minor differences matter to a lot of people but it most certainly doesn't affect user experience. I don't think this should even be a deciding factor when buying a phone.
Play store content is localized based on location data reported by Google's location services. So you aren't even missing out on anything and you will full have access to the UK Play store.
You can still utilize every feature of the device regardless of what language you've chosen. Hope you get the point.
But if you really need to have UK English on the device, you can always flash the EU ROM using one of the guides. Its a fairly simple process.
And regarding the Vendor ROM, a vendor wouldn't sell the device with a broken ROM. The ROM which came pre-installed on my device didn't have any issues. It didn't even have any Chinese bloatware.
My point is, the vendor ROM is perfectly fine until you feel the need to update to a newer software version. Most people import phones from China and use it with the Vendor ROM without any issues.
Its just a minority here on XDA and other forums who actually take the time and effort to flash ROMS and updates.
Cheers!
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Some banking apps don't work properly with language set English US, like PayPal which I use for work all the time, can still use it but can't use mobile pin, have to put full password in with caps and number's.
jazz452 said:
Some banking apps don't work properly with language set English US, like PayPal which I use for work all the time, can still use it but can't use mobile pin, have to put full password in with caps and number's.
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If you're referring to the issue where you can't login to the app using mobile number and PIN, that seems to be an old PayPal bug from 2014 where language had to match account location. Wonder why they haven't fixed it yet.
So technically, its an APP related bug which has got nothing to do with the ROM and looks like its an issue specific to the Paypal app. Haven't heard of similar issues with other apps.
But its good that you pointed this out in case the OP also uses the PayPal app. In this case, he may have to use the EU ROM I guess.
satishp said:
If you're referring to the issue where you can't login to the app using mobile number and PIN, that seems to be an old PayPal bug from 2014 where language had to match account location. Wonder why they haven't fixed it yet.
So technically, its an APP related bug which has got nothing to do with the ROM and looks like its an issue specific to the Paypal app. Haven't heard of similar issues with other apps.
But its good that you pointed this out in case the OP also uses the PayPal app. In this case, he may have to use the EU ROM I guess.
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It was a nightmare having to login 20 time's a day without mobile pin. With globe or EU ROM no problems when English UK language set.
satishp said:
I don't think you would face any issues by selecting US English! The only issue you may face with language set as "English US" instead of "English UK" may be slight variations in spelling of certain words.
For example, COLOR is the preferred spelling in American English whereas "COLOUR" is preferred when the phone uses UK English.
I don't know whether these minor differences matter to a lot of people but it most certainly doesn't affect user experience. I don't think this should even be a deciding factor when buying a phone.
Play store content is localized based on location data reported by Google's location services. So you aren't even missing out on anything and you will full have access to the UK Play store.
You can still utilize every feature of the device regardless of what language you've chosen. Hope you get the point.
But if you really need to have UK English on the device, you can always flash the EU ROM using one of the guides. Its a fairly simple process.
And regarding the Vendor ROM, a vendor wouldn't sell the device with a broken ROM. The ROM which came pre-installed on my device didn't have any issues. It didn't even have any Chinese bloatware.
My point is, the vendor ROM is perfectly fine until you feel the need to update to a newer software version. Most people import phones from China and use it with the Vendor ROM without any issues.
Its just a minority here on XDA and other forums who actually take the time and effort to flash ROMS and updates.
Cheers!
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Great info. Thank you very much. I'm thinking I might go for it in a day or so. :good:
Something else I am curious about. THe aspect ratio of the phone is 17:9 instead of the usual 16:9. What issues if any, does this bring? Would a standard music app (maybe PlayerPro or GoneMad player) or a banking app (Barclays etc) or even apps like Google Maps, GMail etc open full screen or wou;d there be black bars at the top or bottom where they might be designed for the more standard 16:9 screen? I understand that video in 16:9 would obviously need to have the back bars at the sides (when vieiwing landscape). Thanks.
greatcapp said:
Something else I am curious about. THe aspect ratio of the phone is 17:9 instead of the usual 16:9. What issues if any, does this bring? Would a standard music app (maybe PlayerPro or GoneMad player) or a banking app (Barclays etc) or even apps like Google Maps, GMail etc open full screen or wou;d there be black bars at the top or bottom where they might be designed for the more standard 16:9 screen? I understand that video in 16:9 would obviously need to have the back bars at the sides (when vieiwing landscape). Thanks.
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The aspect ratio doesn't affect any apps. All apps and games adapt to the aspect ratio. That extra bit of the 17:9 aspect ratio is used by the Navbar
Like you've mentioned, the only time you would notice black borders, is when watching videos as most videos use a 16:9 ratio. But this isn't a deal-breaker as you'll hardly notice it considering these bars are very small and appear on each side, which is less distracting compared to those ugly big bars on the top and bottom when watching 4:3 content on 16:9 screens. Moreover, the display has excellent contrast and blacks for an IPS panel.
Nothing to worry here!
So I went for it, & it arrived yesterday.
I'm liking it so far, even though it's a lot of work for me to get everything going. Very often, for a lot of apps (ie Android Pay, GOSMS, Gmail, and many others), to get them working properly, i have to go into Settings/Permissions/Permissions/Permissions Tab/ and then into lots of settings inside there & change to "Accept" for anything to work properly. Is that normal?
greatcapp said:
So I went for it, & it arrived yesterday.
I'm liking it so far, even though it's a lot of work for me to get everything going. Very often, for a lot of apps (ie Android Pay, GOSMS, Gmail, and many others), to get them working properly, i have to go into Settings/Permissions/Permissions/Permissions Tab/ and then into lots of settings inside there & change to "Accept" for anything to work properly. Is that normal?
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Yes normal.
greatcapp said:
Hi guys,
Could anyone in the UK who has bought one of these, let me know what they think?
Where did you buy it?
Did it work straight out of the box without any flashing needed?
Which ROM came installed on it?
Does Google Play store work fine?
Any issues with Banking Apps?
Does Android Pay work ok on it?
I need to choose between this one, and the Huawei Mate 9.
Thanks to anyone who can take time to give me their opinion of it now they have one.
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I bought mine from Eglobal Central.
No flashing required.
It came with the stock Chinese ROM (which includes English).
Google Play works fine once you install it from the Mi Market.
No issues with banking apps.
I've not installed Android Pay, but I've set up contacless payment using my Barclaycard and the Barclaycard app. I've not actually used it yet, but the app does a compatibility check and says it should work fine.
Moandal said:
I bought mine from Eglobal Central.
No flashing required.
It came with the stock Chinese ROM (which includes English).
Google Play works fine once you install it from the Mi Market.
No issues with banking apps.
I've not installed Android Pay, but I've set up contacless payment using my Barclaycard and the Barclaycard app. I've not actually used it yet, but the app does a compatibility check and says it should work fine.
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If it came without play store android pay might work, if it comes with play store usually vendor ROM and definitely don't work.

General I am starting to hate this phone now for one reason!

No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Agreed
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
definitely.
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.
Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
speedtripler said:
How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.
I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?
hungragezone said:
What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
saisannihith said:
iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you
Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.
vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?
saisannihith said:
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.

General The Problems with the Mi 11 and Xiaomi Phones.

Hi !
Little Disclaimer :
- This thread is based on my own opinion about the device and Xiaomi as a smartphone maker.
- The best thing that you can do is make your own opinion about this.
Let's start.
My concerns about Mi 11 starts with the battery which is pretty bad with MIUI. (i bought this phone at the end of January brand new, so it's not aging battery stuff)
Second is thermals, this is really something that touched my user experience here, this phone can gets VERY HOT. 40 degres on regular usage sometimes.
(most of the time you can use the device proprely, i'm talking about heat but it may not be as a concern, tho it is for components :/)
Those may be little concerns for some people, tho i picture this like that : This phone should carry me to at least 4 Generations of Android and Smartphones.
So here was my device concerns about it, it may seem stupid at first glance but those are already pretty big reasons for me.
Next is MIUI and Xiaomi Choices, and oh boy.
Let's start simple, Unlocking a Xiaomi Smartphone.
For after market selling reasons and more, Unlocking a Xiaomi Smartphone will need 1/2 weeks of waiting :
First reason is bricking, Xiaomi dosen't want people to brick their phones because unexperienced users wanted to adventure for more. (Will talk about bricking later)
Second is Modified MIUI, Some not very serious sellers were getting some Modified MIUI ROM device and selling them without knowing about it. (slight privacy concern ^^)
And really, i don't see how waiting time could help!
People are owning their phones and can do whatever they want with them, and this will not change anything... People are just going to wait then get their phones unlocked later.
And for After market selling, it is a sort of fix but someday, shady importers are gonna get around it. And if you think about it, there is way more better ways to limit this.
Now it's brick time.
I'm not gonna go much in detail about Soft Brick, because there is not much to talk about here.
EDL Brick have tho, and it's not simple stuff.
But yeah, EDL Bricking.
Xiaomi have pretty nice reputation about it
First of, MIUI 13 and the Mi 11 Lineup. If you don't know, some devices we're reported bricking after installing MIUI 13, and those we're most of the Mi 11 Lineup.
For some perspective, Google got the Pixel 6 FP Sensor bricked on a Pixel Update. Not very cool but they recovered.
Samsung too got S20 screens bricked on an update, yes. lol
But bricking the full device is a whole other level, and with how poor Xiaomi's EDL Mode is (will talk about it later), this dosen't come nice together.
Also, as a DLC for this , Indian Release of this faulty version also bricked Cameras.
So yeah, MIUI dosen't seem to deal very nice with it.
Tho there is a whole other problem, HOW EDL Mode works on Xiaomi Phones !
Basically, Xiaomi dosen't want you to recover from EDL yourself. Their EDL Mode needs a login that only them have.
Tho you can still get around it, some people are selling an unbrick login for your device for money, they are probably Xiaomi employees and Xiaomi probably dosen't want them to exist.
What if your phone turns off on EDL?
You need to open your device and connect two EDL Pin points TOGETHER ! Yes, warranty.
And to finish, MIUI.
MIUI is in a very bad state right now in my opinion, i found 12.5 releases pretty good but 13 is terrible. (in my opinion)
I don't like how global releases gets nothing of what chinese one has, MIUI 13 Global is reskined 12.5 on A12 but with no monet theming.
The bloatware is worse than Samsung back in the day, and results in terrible battery life.
And MIUI exclusives aren't very special, AI Enhancements for imaging are mostly limited to MIUI Apps so i don't see how it could be useful.
So here it is, some informations may be incorrect because i'm mostly what i know about it, tho it is good enough to make a proper opinion.
And remember, making yours will be much better! The Mi 11 isn't a bad device in my mind, it has the potential to please a lot of people i think!
Thanks for reading all of this.
Have a good day!
- kota.
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Totally agree my main concern are thermals and battery
On top of that SD 888 doesn't make things better also I had an aging 5 years moto x play and wanted to buy a flagship that will carry me at least 3 years, but guess what it was the worst year to buy an Android flagship with the SD 888
That's why I'll try Pixel Experience instead of MIUI.
Antyhaker said:
That's why I'll try Pixel Experience instead of MIUI.
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Sure, even tho i'm selling my device i will stay and update this thread
Antyhaker said:
That's why I'll try Pixe
I'm waiting for your feedback on this novel
l Experience instead of MIUI.
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iBURGER said:
Totally agree my main concern are thermals and battery
On top of that SD 888 doesn't make things better also I had an aging 5 years moto x play and wanted to buy a flagship that will carry me at least 3 years, but guess what it was the worst year to buy an Android flagship with the SD 888
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actually, if you want some advice poco F3 + custom roms play very nice together.
tho i'm going oneplus 9 pro
?
kotalol said:
Hi !
Little Disclaimer :
- This thread is based on my own opinion about the device and Xiaomi as a smartphone maker.
- The best thing that you can do is make your own opinion about this.
Let's start.
I'm selling my Xiaomi Mi 11 for several reasons, most don't coming from the device itself and more as Xiaomi choices and MIUI.
My concerns about Mi 11 starts with the battery which is pretty bad with MIUI. (i bought this phone at the end of January brand new, so it's not aging battery stuff)
Second is thermals, this is really something that touched my user experience here, this phone can gets VERY HOT. 40 degres on regular usage sometimes.
(most of the time you can use the device proprely, i'm talking about heat but it may not be as a concern, tho it is for components :/)
Those may be little concerns for some people, tho i picture this like that : This phone should carry me to at least 4 Generations of Android and Smartphones.
So here was my device concerns about it, it may seem stupid at first glance but those are already pretty big reasons for me.
Next is MIUI and Xiaomi Choices, and oh boy.
Let's start simple, Unlocking a Xiaomi Smartphone.
For after market selling reasons and more, Unlocking a Xiaomi Smartphone will need 1/2 weeks of waiting :
First reason is bricking, Xiaomi dosen't want people to brick their phones because unexperienced users wanted to adventure for more. (Will talk about bricking later)
Second is Modified MIUI, Some not very serious sellers were getting some Modified MIUI ROM device and selling them without knowing about it. (slight privacy concern ^^)
And really, i don't see how waiting time could help!
People are owning their phones and can do whatever they want with them, and this will not change anything... People are just going to wait then get their phones unlocked later.
And for After market selling, it is a sort of fix but someday, shady importers are gonna get around it. And if you think about it, there is way more better ways to limit this.
Now it's brick time.
I'm not gonna go much in detail about Soft Brick, because there is not much to talk about here.
EDL Brick have tho, and it's not simple stuff.
But yeah, EDL Bricking.
Xiaomi have pretty nice reputation about it
First of, MIUI 13 and the Mi 11 Lineup. If you don't know, some devices we're reported bricking after installing MIUI 13, and those we're most of the Mi 11 Lineup.
For some perspective, Google got the Pixel 6 FP Sensor bricked on a Pixel Update. Not very cool but they recovered.
Samsung too got S20 screens bricked on an update, yes. lol
But bricking the full device is a whole other level, and with how poor Xiaomi's EDL Mode is (will talk about it later), this dosen't come nice together.
Also, as a DLC for this , Indian Release of this faulty version also bricked Cameras.
So yeah, MIUI dosen't seem to deal very nice with it.
Tho there is a whole other problem, HOW EDL Mode works on Xiaomi Phones !
Basically, Xiaomi dosen't want you to recover from EDL yourself. Their EDL Mode needs a login that only them have.
Tho you can still get around it, some people are selling an unbrick login for your device for money, they are probably Xiaomi employees and Xiaomi probably dosen't want them to exist.
But also, you need to open your device and connect two EDL Pin points TOGETHER ! Yes, warranty.
And to finish, MIUI.
MIUI is in a very bad state right now in my opinion, i found 12.5 releases pretty good but 13 is terrible. (in my opinion)
I don't like how global releases gets nothing of what chinese one has, MIUI 13 Global is reskined 12.5 on A12 but with no monet theming.
The bloatware is worse than Samsung back in the day, and results in terrible battery life.
And MIUI exclusives aren't very special, AI Enhancements for imaging are mostly limited to MIUI Apps so i don't see how it could be useful.
So here it is, some informations may be incorrect because i'm mostly what i know about it, tho it is good enough to make a proper opinion.
And remember, making yours will be much better! The Mi 11 isn't a bad device in my mind, it has the potential to please a lot of people i think!
Thanks for reading all of this.
Have a good day!
- kota.
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It's a really nice designed phone with beautiful display and speakers. And that's about it. I don't have battery issues because I tweak a lot and I end my day with 40 - 20 % battery left depending of usage. Cameras are bad or let's say not so good. It with scam mod they are great. But my main sensor is blurred now and only focus when I tapped it. Which is disappointing and annoying. MIUI 13.... Dear God... How come such a smart people work there and they manage to **** things up instead making things better? None of my apps (messenger, Viber and Whatsapp) save sound ringtones if I change them , they revert to default after every phone restart... This one is so annoying it makes me wanna throw the phone in to the river. The other one is removing force dark mode from developer options! Bad decision! I am thinking to go back to 12.5 which have that option , but since I hard bricked my device EDL locked, nothing on the screen, no fastboot no recovery and I had to pay 35$ to flash and fix it , I don't have balls to try to downgrade to 12.5.... I am not having fun with miui13. This devise requires lot of tweaking, which is fun but sometimes painful. All in all just those 2 major things for me , can't force dark mode on certain apps (hard bricked trying to) and can't change sounds of messenger Viber and Whatsapp.... Maybe there are more things but now they are not on my mind. I am also searching for new device.. any suggestions are appreciated
Oh yeah, still can't use gestures with nova launcher....
kotalol said:
Hi !
Little Disclaimer :
- This thread is based on my own opinion about the device and Xiaomi as a smartphone maker.
- The best thing that you can do is make your own opinion about this.
Let's start.
I'm selling my Xiaomi Mi 11 for several reasons, most don't coming from the device itself and more as Xiaomi choices and MIUI.
My concerns about Mi 11 starts with the battery which is pretty bad with MIUI. (i bought this phone at the end of January brand new, so it's not aging battery stuff)
Second is thermals, this is really something that touched my user experience here, this phone can gets VERY HOT. 40 degres on regular usage sometimes.
(most of the time you can use the device proprely, i'm talking about heat but it may not be as a concern, tho it is for components :/)
Those may be little concerns for some people, tho i picture this like that : This phone should carry me to at least 4 Generations of Android and Smartphones.
So here was my device concerns about it, it may seem stupid at first glance but those are already pretty big reasons for me.
Next is MIUI and Xiaomi Choices, and oh boy.
Let's start simple, Unlocking a Xiaomi Smartphone.
For after market selling reasons and more, Unlocking a Xiaomi Smartphone will need 1/2 weeks of waiting :
First reason is bricking, Xiaomi dosen't want people to brick their phones because unexperienced users wanted to adventure for more. (Will talk about bricking later)
Second is Modified MIUI, Some not very serious sellers were getting some Modified MIUI ROM device and selling them without knowing about it. (slight privacy concern ^^)
And really, i don't see how waiting time could help!
People are owning their phones and can do whatever they want with them, and this will not change anything... People are just going to wait then get their phones unlocked later.
And for After market selling, it is a sort of fix but someday, shady importers are gonna get around it. And if you think about it, there is way more better ways to limit this.
Now it's brick time.
I'm not gonna go much in detail about Soft Brick, because there is not much to talk about here.
EDL Brick have tho, and it's not simple stuff.
But yeah, EDL Bricking.
Xiaomi have pretty nice reputation about it
First of, MIUI 13 and the Mi 11 Lineup. If you don't know, some devices we're reported bricking after installing MIUI 13, and those we're most of the Mi 11 Lineup.
For some perspective, Google got the Pixel 6 FP Sensor bricked on a Pixel Update. Not very cool but they recovered.
Samsung too got S20 screens bricked on an update, yes. lol
But bricking the full device is a whole other level, and with how poor Xiaomi's EDL Mode is (will talk about it later), this dosen't come nice together.
Also, as a DLC for this , Indian Release of this faulty version also bricked Cameras.
So yeah, MIUI dosen't seem to deal very nice with it.
Tho there is a whole other problem, HOW EDL Mode works on Xiaomi Phones !
Basically, Xiaomi dosen't want you to recover from EDL yourself. Their EDL Mode needs a login that only them have.
Tho you can still get around it, some people are selling an unbrick login for your device for money, they are probably Xiaomi employees and Xiaomi probably dosen't want them to exist.
But also, you need to open your device and connect two EDL Pin points TOGETHER ! Yes, warranty.
And to finish, MIUI.
MIUI is in a very bad state right now in my opinion, i found 12.5 releases pretty good but 13 is terrible. (in my opinion)
I don't like how global releases gets nothing of what chinese one has, MIUI 13 Global is reskined 12.5 on A12 but with no monet theming.
The bloatware is worse than Samsung back in the day, and results in terrible battery life.
And MIUI exclusives aren't very special, AI Enhancements for imaging are mostly limited to MIUI Apps so i don't see how it could be useful.
So here it is, some informations may be incorrect because i'm mostly what i know about it, tho it is good enough to make a proper opinion.
And remember, making yours will be much better! The Mi 11 isn't a bad device in my mind, it has the potential to please a lot of people i think!
Thanks for reading all of this.
Have a good day!
- kota.
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I`m disagree with you. I love this phone (i use xiaomi eu rom). Photo quality, display quality, movie quality is perfect. And i love miui (i have no problems with it, i use xiaomi eu).
Only one dissadvantage is hot (with i agree with U) - when i play civilization 6 its very hot
dromaczek said:
I`m disagree with you. I love this phone (i use xiaomi eu rom). Photo quality, display quality, movie quality is perfect. And i love miui (i have no problems with it, i use xiaomi eu).
Only one dissadvantage is hot (with i agree with U) - when i play civilization 6 its very hot
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nice but i'm talking about global miui
My wife use it, it's ok too
Mi 11 is easily the worst 2021 flagship.
Bad battery life, and MIUI is just awful.
Wahoux said:
Mi 11 is easily the worst 2021 flagship.
Bad battery life, and MIUI is just awful.
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nope, not the worst but clearly not the best,
and battery life is good if you use an aosp and not miui
Asnamus said:
It's a really nice designed phone with beautiful display and speakers. And that's about it. I don't have battery issues because I tweak a lot and I end my day with 40 - 20 % battery left depending of usage. Cameras are bad or let's say not so good. It with scam mod they are great. But my main sensor is blurred now and only focus when I tapped it. Which is disappointing and annoying. MIUI 13.... Dear God... How come such a smart people work there and they manage to **** things up instead making things better? None of my apps (messenger, Viber and Whatsapp) save sound ringtones if I change them , they revert to default after every phone restart... This one is so annoying it makes me wanna throw the phone in to the river. The other one is removing force dark mode from developer options! Bad decision! I am thinking to go back to 12.5 which have that option , but since I hard bricked my device EDL locked, nothing on the screen, no fastboot no recovery and I had to pay 35$ to flash and fix it , I don't have balls to try to downgrade to 12.5.... I am not having fun with miui13. This devise requires lot of tweaking, which is fun but sometimes painful. All in all just those 2 major things for me , can't force dark mode on certain apps (hard bricked trying to) and can't change sounds of messenger Viber and Whatsapp.... Maybe there are more things but now they are not on my mind. I am also searching for new device.. any suggestions are appreciated
Oh yeah, still can't use gestures with nova launcher....
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If you have root i think you can use quick switch for gestures
kotalol said:
nope, not the worst but clearly not the best,
and battery life is good if you use an aosp and not miui
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Yes but there is no interest for mi 11 on xda and no rom really stable
Asnamus said:
It's a really nice designed phone with beautiful display and speakers. And that's about it. I don't have battery issues because I tweak a lot and I end my day with 40 - 20 % battery left depending of usage. Cameras are bad or let's say not so good. It with scam mod they are great. But my main sensor is blurred now and only focus when I tapped it. Which is disappointing and annoying. MIUI 13.... Dear God... How come such a smart people work there and they manage to **** things up instead making things better? None of my apps (messenger, Viber and Whatsapp) save sound ringtones if I change them , they revert to default after every phone restart... This one is so annoying it makes me wanna throw the phone in to the river. The other one is removing force dark mode from developer options! Bad decision! I am thinking to go back to 12.5 which have that option , but since I hard bricked my device EDL locked, nothing on the screen, no fastboot no recovery and I had to pay 35$ to flash and fix it , I don't have balls to try to downgrade to 12.5.... I am not having fun with miui13. This devise requires lot of tweaking, which is fun but sometimes painful. All in all just those 2 major things for me , can't force dark mode on certain apps (hard bricked trying to) and can't change sounds of messenger Viber and Whatsapp.... Maybe there are more things but now they are not on my mind. I am also searching for new device.. any suggestions are appreciated
Oh yeah, still can't use gestures with nova launcher....
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If you are rooted you can install the Magisk module 'No Navbar v1.0' from Abdulwahab and use FNG without any problem.
Wahoux said:
Yes but there is no interest for mi 11 on xda and no rom really stable
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Cause
Phone is expensive, nobody want to make room cause people make room for cheaper phone. It has support from Xiaomi, which is great
Wahoux said:
Mi 11 is easily the worst 2021 flagship.
Bad battery life, and MIUI is just awful.
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Why you keep posting same rant again and again, we all know you cant handle it ? Wipe your tears and change forum. I suggest Doro or similar for you.

Pixel 5 >/= Pixel 5a?

I'm new to the world of root and I want to try different ROMS, custom kernels, debloat, etc. I'm fully aware of the risks that come with rooting my phone, and I'm ready to go. I have a Pixel 5a. When I check out the 5a forums, there's not much there. The P5 has all the action! I want to know if I substitute the Barbet images for the Redfin images, can I use the Pixel 5 methods on my 5a?
keylimepienapples3000 said:
I'm new to the world of root and I want to try different ROMS, custom kernels, debloat, etc. I'm fully aware of the risks that come with rooting my phone, and I'm ready to go. I have a Pixel 5a. When I check out the 5a forums, there's not much there. The P5 has all the action! I want to know if I substitute the Barbet images for the Redfin images, can I use the Pixel 5 methods on my 5a?
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You can use the same methods to root, but you can't use the custom firmware built for the 5
xunholyx said:
You can use the same methods to root, but you can't use the custom firmware built for the 5
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Right on. Thanks for the reply.. Why does the 5 seem so much more popular?
Because the 5 was the "flagship" device that year
The Pixel 5 and 5a share the same SoC, so the firmware is effectively the same between them. Still, for the sake of being safe, I wouldn't mix and match.
The only difference between the two is the 5 has 8GB RAM, while the 5a has a bigger screen and a bigger battery. Other than that, they're identical.
Thanks for the info.. How risky is it-- If the biggest difference is in the RAM? About 10 or 12 years ago I read an article about Android and it's capabilities through open source code, so I've wanted to root and mess around with ROMS and different firmware for a long time. Unfortunately, at that time I was in prison so naturally I didn't have access to a phone. I got home in 2020 looking to change my life so I've tried to at least make this a hobby. So far I'm somehow not very lucky in getting the right phones. I thought I finally did last year when I bought a Moto Stylus 5g from cricket. I paid the phone off, cricket unlocked it, but Motorola won't give up the unlock code. Then I got a Pixel 3 but it turned out to be from Verizon and they're haters off the jump, so that was a huge disappointment too. Finally, I have this Pixel 5a. Factory unlocked, incredibly easy as far as unlocking the bootloader and rooting go and I can't seem to find a custom ROM for it. I was able to flash to graphene OS, but there were some issues with my esim so I went back to stock. A couple nights ago I tried Bliss ROMs but I don't know what I'm doing wrong there but I can't get it to work. I got kind of excited about the pixel experience plus, but that guy doesn't seem to be messing around with it anymore, he says there doesn't seem to be enough interest in it. When I look at the Pixel 5 forum, they have all the bells and whistles! I don't have an education nor do I have the money to buy phone after phone. Especially some of the more popular brands. Unless I'm looking at a ROM that requires more of it, how does 2gb if RAM make such a difference? Also you replied to another question I posted. About locking the bootloader.. what happens if I lock it without having the stock and bone firmware?
keylimepienapples3000 said:
Thanks for the info.. How risky is it-- If the biggest difference is in the RAM? About 10 or 12 years ago I read an article about Android and it's capabilities through open source code, so I've wanted to root and mess around with ROMS and different firmware for a long time. Unfortunately, at that time I was in prison so naturally I didn't have access to a phone. I got home in 2020 looking to change my life so I've tried to at least make this a hobby. So far I'm somehow not very lucky in getting the right phones. I thought I finally did last year when I bought a Moto Stylus 5g from cricket. I paid the phone off, cricket unlocked it, but Motorola won't give up the unlock code. Then I got a Pixel 3 but it turned out to be from Verizon and they're haters off the jump, so that was a huge disappointment too. Finally, I have this Pixel 5a. Factory unlocked, incredibly easy as far as unlocking the bootloader and rooting go and I can't seem to find a custom ROM for it. I was able to flash to graphene OS, but there were some issues with my esim so I went back to stock. A couple nights ago I tried Bliss ROMs but I don't know what I'm doing wrong there but I can't get it to work. I got kind of excited about the pixel experience plus, but that guy doesn't seem to be messing around with it anymore, he says there doesn't seem to be enough interest in it. When I look at the Pixel 5 forum, they have all the bells and whistles! I don't have an education nor do I have the money to buy phone after phone. Especially some of the more popular brands. Unless I'm looking at a ROM that requires more of it, how does 2gb if RAM make such a difference? Also you replied to another question I posted. About locking the bootloader.. what happens if I lock it without having the stock and bone firmware?
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Stay on stock ROM. Root, and use this Magisk/Xposed MOD..
[MOD][Xposed+Magisk][13 Compatible] AOSP Mods - System modifications for AOSP-based Android 12+
This is a mixed Xposed+Magisk module, which is made to allow customizations that are not originally designed in AOSP (Android Open Source Project). Features: Currently, AOSP Mods offers customizations on different aspects of system framework and...
forum.xda-developers.com
As for RAM, see if this helps, it "Expands RAM memory by converting a part (Internal) storage to swap RAM."
Thank you. I'm going to check it out now.
Ok. My phone didn't like swapper very much. After rebooting, my screen was flickering out of control and I couldn't do anything but power down. After a couple of reboots it started up normally but now I can't use mobile data and I'm not able to access any Magisk Modules. The button is greyed out. Any idea how to reverse this?
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Ok. My phone didn't like swapper very much. After rebooting, my screen was flickering out of control and I couldn't do anything but power down. After a couple of reboots it started up normally but now I can't use mobile data and I'm not able to access any Magisk Modules. The button is greyed out. Any idea how to reverse this?
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oh wow that's very odd how many GB did you do? I suggest 2 but if it's doing that then yea lets rid it.
when it's grey it mean it'sdisabled. you can click the remove button and reboot and it will be gone.

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