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So I received OS 9..5.5 first thing this morning and went out and took some video and photos and added my thoughts on the new camera firmware.
https://youtu.be/wIXEsktlEs8
I love the phone, the camera is the weakness, as focus is still an issue. When it takes a good shot, its epic. Let me know if you have any questions etc.
the latest build i have is 9.5.4 and that just updated today
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the latest build i have is 9.5.4 and that just updated today
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OP may have T-Mobile variant
id be curious to see the difference between Smart Content Detection on and off as i believe it has a difference.
I am in the UK. I got 9.5.4 when I first got phone. 9.5.5 arrived this morning.
Ive tested the new firmware compared to the iphone XS. The op7 still lacks in detail, the images are bit soft. What I was surprised to see is that the focal length of the regular main sensor on the iphone is wider than the wide angle on the op7. Unfortunately the update does resolve some issues but does not take it to the next level.
How the camera work with motion/action shots? Static images look good, but the few pictures I’ve seen of people moving have higher motion blur and ghosting.
Someone try smart Content Detection on and off as i believe it has a difference.
Post images with it on and off let's see the difference!
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How the camera work with motion/action shots? Static images look good, but the few pictures I’ve seen of people moving have higher motion blur and ghosting.
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To be honest, it's not great. I have a Iphone xs too and it's about twice as good for movement/action shots.
A.Priori said:
To be honest, it's not great. I have a Iphone xs too and it's about twice as good for movement/action shots.
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try it with Smart Content Detection off and compare pictures
Pit Stains said:
How the camera work with motion/action shots? Static images look good, but the few pictures I’ve seen of people moving have higher motion blur and ghosting.
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Awful because of the ridiculously slow shutter speed.
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Batfink33 said:
Awful because of the ridiculously slow shutter speed.
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can you test with smart content detection OFF please.
Hello everyone,
I have been using my oneplus 7 pro for a few hours now, overall it's a great phone.
My only complaint so far is Nightscape mode, it takes awful photos, I downloaded Gcam *Google camera* and tested it out for a bit, what I could get out of this is that in comparison with Nightscape mode, Gcam takes it's time taking the picture, while Nightscape mode is done in a second, this is very strange, as a result I get white dots in my photos, as you can see in the images I uploaded.
When I went into settings on Gcam, I found out that it only uses 12mp, I don't understand why this is happening.
Can any of you make a similar comparison and share it in this thread?
Thank you
personally i like the OP photo, colors look way better, less noise. sure its not as bright but come on, it looks pitch black.
do some post processing and im sure youll get a better image than GCAM.
what do you expect from phones?
People keep saying they're disappointed in the camera, but it sounds like they're really just disappointed in the Oneplus camera app. Clearly the camera is capable of good things, based on the GCam user experiences, so what is there to be upset about?
This are my samples, the darkest one is the stock in auto mode, the slight brighter one is the nightscape mode, and the brightest is gcam night sight
Slapyou said:
People keep saying they're disappointed in the camera, but it sounds like they're really just disappointed in the Oneplus camera app. Clearly the camera is capable of good things, based on the GCam user experiences, so what is there to be upset about?
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I totally agree with you, but this has been a issue in the past, now we have "2.0" and Google camera is still better.
The white dots are very strange, I see them in every photo I take with the original camera app in Nightscape mode.
Other phones will never be able to take the same photos as a Pixel phone, there's an additional processor that was added to those phones called the Pixel Visual Core, due to this, comparing shots isn't very helpful as the two devices will not be on an equal playing field. They don't even have the same camera models.
That additional image processor will also be the reason that the Pixel's night time images are far superior.
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Other phones will never be able to take the same photos as a Pixel phone, there's an additional processor that was added to those phones called the Pixel Visual Core, due to this, comparing shots isn't very helpful as the two devices will not be on an equal playing field. They don't even have the same camera models.
That additional image processor will also be the reason that the Pixel's night time images are far superior.
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The Pixel 3a and 3a XL don't have the Pixel Visual Core yet they are taking pictures the same as the Pixel 3 and 3 XL.
So would it be a fair playing field to compare to the Pixel 3a?
MrFriendlyAssman said:
I totally agree with you, but this has been a issue in the past, now we have "2.0" and Google camera is still better.
The white dots are very strange, I see them in every photo I take with the original camera app in Nightscape mode.
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so if you had the S10 plus you'd have the same complaint right?
stop comparing everything to googles camera, its getting tiring - google has the visual core, and optimize the hell out of their post processing algo's not even huawei does what the pixels do
i have a pixel 3xl and the op7pro and 99% of the time you can barely tell the difference (on latest 9.5.5) and with the difference you can see you can easily compensate via post processing like snapseed to get the desired look.
and personally, i liked the OP nightscape, it looked more in-focus, colors looked true and the gcam blew out the lamp post.
just wait for a working port of gcam and use that instead. but im getting tired of people complaining and comparing to the pixel 3xl, day shots are identical, you cant expect every phone to perform the same in low light/night.
also look at the gcam vs op nightsight, you realize they both expose the same details in the scene, OP does a better job at keeping neutral lighting while pixel bumps the contrast and highlights up eventhough they both show the EXACT SAME SCENE.
the next person to compare the pixel camera to the OP is going to make me burn my pixel 3xl in a fire pit.
dont make me do it
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I totally agree with you, but this has been a issue in the past, now we have "2.0" and Google camera is still better.
The white dots are very strange, I see them in every photo I take with the original camera app in Nightscape mode.
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MrFriendlyAssman said:
I totally agree with you, but this has been a issue in the past, now we have "2.0" and Google camera is still better.
The white dots are very strange, I see them in every photo I take with the original camera app in Nightscape mode.
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2.0 what? Are you talking about night mode 2.0? If so that has nothing to do with nightscape, capturing photos or anything to do with the camera at all. Night mode 2.0 is an upgrade to the night mode for your screen to be turned Amber at night time. Has nothing to do with the camera at all.
Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Got my p4xl 2 days ago, what is this garbage front camera?!
Faces loss details, whats happened to Google?!
Last p3xl was the best selfie camera!
Why f 2.0? Why 25 mm len?
Very disappointed, my op7 pro with gcam has better results, better battery life and half price.... Google this year you lost the game...
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Cool story, bro!
Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
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Did you disable the skin smoothing that's on by default? Also the update is supposed to improve selfie camera.
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Disable smooth skin, did update
Sharpness so bad especially at indoor/low light
P3xl did great work, p4xl distorted it
Front camera :no shapness
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Front camera :no shapness
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Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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Definitely something wrong, that info shows it's in the download folder and only 265kb. That's not straight from the camera. Like someone sent it as an MMS and it was downloaded.
tigercranestyle said:
And maybe I'm missing something as I'm not a photography nerd, but why is the picture only 2.8 megapixels? Can't seem to do anything in settings to make the selfie cam go from 8 to 2.8 megapixels.
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This is the upload file to xda! Not the real taken photo!!!
Fille84 said:
Haha really dude??
Think you missed the point with a front camera if you're taking pics like that with it..
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Before you come to any conclusion, the point is the selfie camera didnt improved in px4xl it worse now.
I photo behind me not myself and this was the results just to show how is the quality!!!
You guy need to try more phones if you like this front camera...
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Yep. Forgot to mention that also. Always seems to be the OnePlus folks... and not just here. Also Reddit. There is a lot of them.
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I switched from oneplus that knowing Google is better, not this time...
Sorry but i needed to believe the reviews even the front facing camera didnt mention there...
The rear camera is the best out there for sure, but why Google went down in the specs of front camera?!
The battery also needed to improve better, we are in 2019 not 2016,Google needs to make 4000ma batteries and more, this is one of the most important things for users.
Everybody says front facing camera is not important as rear, but you can see people at the street, when traveling always makes selfie photos, so you need to improve it also or not make it less better than your previous phone
Got to say I'm pretty impressed by the sharpness regarding contours on my end. You're definitely using the cam the wrong way, or got a faulty sensor.
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Now you have explain for the nonsharp photo??? Dont answer, because you dont have answers!!!
I just took three shots, one with smoothness off, one on, and one portrait. ALL of them look REALLY good. 'shrugs'
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Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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So try to shoot one photo and see the information you get, this is what i got. The phone is original bought at Saturn Germany
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Yeah... no. The front-facing camera isn't 6 megapixels either. If anything other than some upset OnePlus user, it must be user error.
The ffc isn't 2.8 megapixels and it's not 6 megapixels. It's also not 3.14159265359 megapixels.
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It would be great to see a proof that you got something else
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Test.
You're right about xda upload changing the megapixel size of the photo. I was wondering about that.
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But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
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But see the details in the original photo you are taking its 6M not 8M,strange...
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I checked in photos taken with my old px3xl details got 8M!!!another **** in px4xl?!
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Have no problem admitting I was wrong about uploading to xda changing the megapixels. Attaching a photo of my post indicating that I was wrong.
Again, are you rooted? Everyone else had no problem with ffc but you. Are you rooted?
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Im not rooted! Again, take a selfie photo look at the details of the photo, its i inside a circle and tell me please what is the size of photo you shooted 6M or 8M?
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I said I was wrong about the megapixels, but you don't have a Pixel 4 xl.
You're not rooted? Yet you're using three button navigation and your home button is missing the circle around the home button that has been present since the first Pixel xl. Pic is attached showing your navbar and what it looks like with three button navigation enabled on the pixel 4 xl. You're likely using a phone with a skimmed down version on Android on another phone. You're navigation bar looks similiar to the one on the Essential phone without the circle around the nav bar. I've attached a pic of that as well.
Also your clock is supposed to be on the left side. Signal and battery are supposed to be on the right. Pic is attached of how it's supposed to look.
Was going to say that your Google Lens icon is missing, but it's not available in Israel.
Anyhow, chances are is that you're using some random Gcam mod that you've posted about in the past.
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What are you saying?! In Hebrew the buttons and the clock are opposite to English, im using pixel 4 xl 2 days brand new, attached my system details!
Lack of sharpness is probably more like lack of focus. The front facing camera is fixed focus. It's no different than my Pixel 2 XL and both do fine for me. You gotta hold it a little steadier. Something that helps is using the 3 second timer so tapping the on screen shutter or the volume button don't produce extra movement.
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How To Install Google Camera On Xiaomi Mi 11 Phones | Gcam APK
Follow the steps in the article to find the corresponding Google Camera 8.1 APK, download it, and install it on the Xiaomi Mi 11.
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This is working great...the color processing is as expected from Gcam.
post some comparison shots, would be great to see the difference
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post some comparison shots, would be great to see the difference
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Would love to see too
i made a few pictures with both apps. just my summary:
1.xiaomi has better dynamic range, or in other words, brighter shadow.
2.xiaomi's color is more accurate. gcam has a cold color tone to it.
3.gcam is somewhat shaper without the weird sharpening effect.
4.gcam removes fringing a lot better, on edge of big color shift of two objects (tree vs sky, black bottle vs white background), it has a clear boundary, xiaomi is more murky-looking.
5.overall gcam exposure is a tad lower than xiaomi's.
6.gcam only has 1x and 2x, no wide angle. for potrait, it has 1x and 1.3x, picture seems to have very bad exposure.
7.all pictures were taken indoors, so i haven't compared the outdoor pictures.
i wouldn't switch.
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i made a few pictures with both apps. just my summary:
1.xiaomi has better dynamic range, or in other words, brighter shadow.
2.xiaomi's color is more accurate. gcam has a cold color tone to it.
3.gcam is somewhat shaper without the weird sharpening effect.
4.gcam removes fringing a lot better, on edge of big color shift of two objects (tree vs sky, black bottle vs white background), it has a clear boundary, xiaomi is more murky-looking.
5.overall gcam exposure is a tad lower than xiaomi's.
6.gcam only has 1x and 2x, no wide angle. for potrait, it has 1x and 1.3x, picture seems to have very bad exposure.
7.all pictures were taken indoors, so i haven't compared the outdoor pictures.
i wouldn't switch.
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Always find mi cam exposure half a stop overexposure....even more so at highlighted area that hdr fail to control sometime. And their awb is always wrong under warmer lighting condition. But there are more Gcam mod to try out. But I do notice...some Gcam mod had that weird green tint to white color background.
Anyone came across a better Gcam port...do share
Tones to pick from the link below.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
www.celsoazevedo.com
This is working but I don't see much advantage in it tbh
I agree after testing out a few mode...the color are more contrasty using Gcam. But only so marginally ....
Can anyone post comparison shots ?
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i made a few pictures with both apps. just my summary:
1.xiaomi has better dynamic range, or in other words, brighter shadow.
2.xiaomi's color is more accurate. gcam has a cold color tone to it.
3.gcam is somewhat shaper without the weird sharpening effect.
4.gcam removes fringing a lot better, on edge of big color shift of two objects (tree vs sky, black bottle vs white background), it has a clear boundary, xiaomi is more murky-looking.
5.overall gcam exposure is a tad lower than xiaomi's.
6.gcam only has 1x and 2x, no wide angle. for potrait, it has 1x and 1.3x, picture seems to have very bad exposure.
7.all pictures were taken indoors, so i haven't compared the outdoor pictures.
i wouldn't switch.
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1. Better HDR ? That's strange. However if it's just that the shadows are underexposed with gcam, that's somethign you can fix in the settings. Gcam is tuned for the imx363, obviously it's going to need some tweaks to work well on the gn2.
2. Make sure you have AWB on.
5. Again, exposure can be tweaked. Right now BSG has one of the most versatile, easily tweakable mods.
6. This you need to inform the devs about. Gcam is only acessing one sensor here, and digitally cropping 2x. But you can probably access both the 0.5 and 5x lenses as well. If the devs can make Sabre work on them this will lead to much better detail on both these lenses.
If you guys want test this new Greatness GCAM version:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-greatness/f/dl2/
The Officially Supported Device is divided into two categories:
Category 1: OnePlus 2020 Phones with Everything Working
Category 2: OnePlus 2019, Oneplus 2021, Oppo Find X2 Pro and Mi 11 Ultra with only one video related feature missing.
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dhaern said:
If you guys want test this new Greatness GCAM version:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-greatness/f/dl2/
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unfortunately there's no Auxiliary lens support.
Be aware that next Wichaya version will work perfectly.
Been using for weeks and it's great.
SirTAVARES said:
Be aware that next Wichaya version will work perfectly.
Been using for weeks and it's great.
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Did Wichaya release next version? I see his GCAM is outdated and last version is a 7.3 from december.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-wichaya/
How do you know he is going to release a fully working GCAM? source?
What's the main difference between Gcam and the official camera app?
xNAPx said:
What's the main difference between Gcam and the official camera app?
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Colour/imagine processing engine
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How To Install Google Camera On Xiaomi Mi 11 Phones | Gcam APK
Follow the steps in the article to find the corresponding Google Camera 8.1 APK, download it, and install it on the Xiaomi Mi 11.
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This is working great...the color processing is as expected from Gcam.
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I tried it and didn't notice a lot of difference
You actually lose some camera functionality ?
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I tried it and didn't notice a lot of difference
You actually lose some camera functionality ?
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You are trying a GCAM posted 1 month ago and that version is a cstark version from january:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-cstark27/
Mi 11 Ultra was released not long time ago and GCAM development is poor. You need try newer GCAM versions to find a better one, not OP link from a clickbait website. Check always latest releases here:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Pixel on the left and stock Xiaomi on the right, no settings altered
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You are trying a GCAM posted 1 month ago and that version is a cstark version from january:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-cstark27/
Mi 11 Ultra was released not long time ago and GCAM development is poor. You need try newer GCAM versions to find a better one, not OP link from a clickbait website. Check always latest releases here:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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I will retest when I have time and update you, thx for the info
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Colour/imagine processing engine
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Do you think is better than official? Can Gcam extract the full potential of the cameras?
Hey, guys. Take a look on my pictures made with Gcam
Do you believe stock is able to make the same?
Still little bit overharped. Upscale also is not necessarily.
With which GCam port these photos are taken?
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Still little bit overharped. Upscale also is not necessarily.
With which GCam port these photos are taken?
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I don't think they are oversharpened because sharpness was set by default. They are taken with AGC 8.4.300. And upscaling indeed improves clarity and detail a little bit.
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I don't think they are oversharpened because sharpness was set by default. They are taken with AGC 8.4.300. And upscaling indeed improves clarity and detail a little bit.
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Upscale does not improve picture quality. It just let's you zoom further.
Only thing you get is too big images and file size.
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Upscale does not improve picture quality. It just let's you zoom further.
Only thing you get is too big images and file size.
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I don't care about file size
Guys, I wanna share with you some more day pictures
What do you think about the quality?
Lexxmark said:
Guys, I wanna share with you some more day pictures
What do you think about the quality?
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Indeed great shots . It seems a pro captured them.
Can upload gcam please
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Can upload gcam please
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You can download it from here:
BigKaka GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by BigKaka.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Lexxmark said:
You can download it from here:
BigKaka GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by BigKaka.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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Thanks
You use which config?
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Thanks
You use which config?
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No configs, just use presets Ka night and Ka day. But don't use Vivo config, it's blurred. And don't forget to choose Sabre merge and enable upscaling
Guys, last shots from me on this topic. Take a look at this incredible detail. It is better than Vivo X90 pro plus stock!
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It is better than Vivo X90 pro plus stock!
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This is only your opinion. Others maybe have different opinions.
Look at this beautiful portrait
By the way, it was made under room lighting (I use my own config for portraits). The stock camera in such conditions nervously smokes aside I am personally very pleased with gcam. And I don't understand why Vivo programmers get paid.
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You can download it from here:
BigKaka GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by BigKaka.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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Hi. Which version are you using? I'm getting black screen for:
AGC8.4.300_V9.6
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Hi. Which version are you using? I'm getting black screen for:
AGC8.4.300_V9.6
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9.3. Or you can use 9.5fix as well.
Both work fine for me.
Another beautiful portrait (made in the daylight).
I can't even ask for better!
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9.3. Or you can use 9.5fix as well.
Both work fine for me.
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Thanks a lot! Am using 9.5fix and holy moly there so many options. I'm a little overwhelmed but I guess it's gonna take me sometime to get used to. Thanks for posting tho, I believe gcam has the capability of pushing the sensors to their limits to take the best pics. Do you have any recommendations configs tho? You did mention you only use the presets but am getting slightly blurred images, gonna have to experiment a bit...
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Thanks a lot! Am using 9.5fix and holy moly there so many options. I'm a little overwhelmed but I guess it's gonna take me sometime to get used to. Thanks for posting tho, I believe gcam has the capability of pushing the sensors to their limits to take the best pics. Do you have any recommendations configs tho? You did mention you only use the presets but am getting slightly blurred images, gonna have to experiment a bit...
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If you want a sharper pics you can play with sharpness and sabre. And don't forget to enable upscaling to 1.6x-2x. It increases the file size but detail a bit too.
Hey, guys. To finalize this topic, I would like to share with you my last pics. It's for those who like a bit sharper
Conclusion - with a proper gcam and config our camera is still damn good!