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[Q] Note 4 on AT&T, T-Mobile or International Version

Hello guys,
I am about to purchase Samsung note 4 (yeaaaaaaaaaaaa) and I came across these three option.
To buy an unlocked phone from AT&T, T-Mobile or international version?
Any differences between these?
I am planning on putting some custom rom in the future, will i have any difficulties if i get AT&T or T-mobile?
I also live in the UK, will this affect me?
Thanks for your tips.

cotsios26 said:
Hello guys,
I am about to purchase Samsung note 4 (yeaaaaaaaaaaaa) and I came across these three option.
To buy an unlocked phone from AT&T, T-Mobile or international version?
Any differences between these?
I am planning on putting some custom rom in the future, will i have any difficulties if i get AT&T or T-mobile?
I also live in the UK, will this affect me?
Thanks for your tips.
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Att has a locked bootloader - so if you want to flash custom roms do not buy that one. Tmobile version can flash custom roms and so can the international one - I don't know about Englnad, but I know the International Version (at least on the S5) cannot be used in teh states if you want to get LTE - the international phone doesn't have the correct bands to get LTE in the US - I cannot say that is for sure on the NOTE 4 - but it is definately how it was on the S5 and I would guess that at least in this area, they are the same.
So I htink you should get specks for both Tmobile and International and make sure they have the bands you need to get LTE in England. That would be the only real difference between the two from what I can tell anyway.
GOOD LUCK!

mocsab said:
Att has a locked bootloader - so if you want to flash custom roms do not buy that one. Tmobile version can flash custom roms and so can the international one - I don't know about Englnad, but I know the International Version (at least on the S5) cannot be used in teh states if you want to get LTE - the international phone doesn't have the correct bands to get LTE in the US - I cannot say that is for sure on the NOTE 4 - but it is definately how it was on the S5 and I would guess that at least in this area, they are the same.
So I htink you should get specks for both Tmobile and International and make sure they have the bands you need to get LTE in England. That would be the only real difference between the two from what I can tell anyway.
GOOD LUCK!
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Ok thanks for the information!
The details I have for the T-Mobile version is
Quad Band GSM
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17
SIM: Micro-SIM
Model # SM-N910T
Im not sure if this LTE works in the UK.
I know that might be a bit off topic, but I am interested in LG G3 as well. What are your thoughs compared to Note 4.
Does the difference in price tag (330GBP for the G3 to 530GBO for Note 4) worth it?

The LG G3 is not even in the same ballpark.
Don't do it.

I don't know why anyone would recommend the international version. It has no warranty and NO support for LTE in North America. The T-Mobile version is fully compatible with AT&T, and works quite well (I am using it myself). LTE speeds are excellent, along with reception. I have no complaints. The only thing the AT&T might offer is HD voice and carrier aggregation.

The op resides in Europe (UK). Get the International snapdragon that works with your carrier's bands. And it also seems that the sm-n910f has all the same bands as the t mobile version

cotsios26 said:
Ok thanks for the information!
The details I have for the T-Mobile version is
Quad Band GSM
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17
SIM: Micro-SIM
Model # SM-N910T
Im not sure if this LTE works in the UK.
I know that might be a bit off topic, but I am interested in LG G3 as well. What are your thoughs compared to Note 4.
Does the difference in price tag (330GBP for the G3 to 530GBO for Note 4) worth it?
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I can;t speak aobut the LG - Never used it - no desire to - The Note 4 is simply the most amazing phone ever made - no comparison in my book - regarding TMOBILE SUPPORTED LTE BANDS _ I just don't know much about which bands are used by providers in Europe - I know their phones are not compatible here in the US - at least not on any phone I have tried - but I don't know if the same is true with US phones in Europe or england. Either way, good luck.

Android_Monsters said:
The LG G3 is not even in the same ballpark.
Don't do it.
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So Note4 does worth to spend around 200GBP more for it?
MattMJB0188 said:
I don't know why anyone would recommend the international version. It has no warranty and NO support for LTE in North America. The T-Mobile version is fully compatible with AT&T, and works quite well (I am using it myself). LTE speeds are excellent, along with reception. I have no complaints. The only thing the AT&T might offer is HD voice and carrier aggregation.
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I live in UK so thats why I am wondering about AT&T and T-Mobile versions, they are both unlocked though.
As far as I know, I will not buy AT&T cz of the locked bootloader.
mbonus said:
The op resides in Europe (UK). Get the International snapdragon that works with your carrier's bands. And it also seems that the sm-n910f has all the same bands as the t mobile version
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I found T-Mobile version around 490GBP whereas international version is more expensive, but they say they have the same frequencies. So im guessing i wont have any problems in the uk!?
mocsab said:
I can;t speak aobut the LG - Never used it - no desire to - The Note 4 is simply the most amazing phone ever made - no comparison in my book - regarding TMOBILE SUPPORTED LTE BANDS _ I just don't know much about which bands are used by providers in Europe - I know their phones are not compatible here in the US - at least not on any phone I have tried - but I don't know if the same is true with US phones in Europe or england. Either way, good luck.
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Alright, thanks a lot.
I also found N910K version which is the Korean version. Is it the one with the Octa-core CPU, or Im mistaken?

cotsios26 said:
I live in UK so thats why I am wondering about AT&T and T-Mobile versions, they are both unlocked though.
As far as I know, I will not buy AT&T cz of the locked bootloader.
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I didn't see you live in the UK. In that case, i don't know about the T-Mobile version. I always thought Samsung had its own unlocked European version?

MattMJB0188 said:
I didn't see you live in the UK. In that case, i don't know about the T-Mobile version. I always thought Samsung had its own unlocked European version?
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Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.

cotsios26 said:
Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
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I'm assuming the T-Mobile version N910T would have no warranty support in your country.

cotsios26 said:
Yes they do have it. But I found a T-Mobile version cheaper than the international version and I was wondering If i should buy it and if it would have any compatibility issues with Europe.
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I honestly don't know about TMOBILE working for LTE in the UK - the only experience I have is attempting to use an International S5 in the US and when I tried, I could not get LTE - I assumed that the NOTE and the S5 have the same bands - if that is true, then International phones won't get LTE on ATT in the US (I don't know about TMOBILE) and regarding which bands are supported by Carriers in the UK - that is where I am completely lost - a

Questions about Nexus 6

As the title says, i need to know since i wont find anything anywhere.
Next month ill be buying the Nexus 6 comming from a note 3
Whats the difference in model number? Eg XT1100, XT1103
International and US version of the phone.
Is there any hardware specific modem changes that i should be aware of before buying it?
Does it matters to me? (Living in Sweden)
Are all custom roms compatible with both model numbers?
Thanks in advance.

International model (XT1100) is made for GSM, as networks in the developed world are all GSM.
N. America model (XT1103) is backwards-compatible with CDMA2000, and also supports some LTE bands unique to the US (Sprint & Verizon, mostly).
Unless noted otherwise by the dev, all the roms here are supported on both models.

synisterwolf said:
International model (XT1100) is made for GSM, as networks in the developed world are all GSM.
N. America model (XT1103) is backwards-compatible with CDMA2000, and also supports some LTE bands unique to the US (Sprint & Verizon, mostly).
Unless noted otherwise by the dev, all the roms here are supported on both models.
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So in other words, i want the XT1100 version of the device since im not in the us and Sprint nor Verizon is available here in Sweden.
Thanks! Great info

mattish.91 said:
So in other words, i want the XT1100 version of the device since im not in the us and Sprint nor Verizon is available here in Sweden.
Thanks! Great info
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The 1103 US version has a different radio chip wich supports different LTE bands then the 1100 World (including EU) version.

Custom ROMs work on both models. No hardware changes (SD805 and 3GB RAM on both).
Only the radio hardware is different.
The XT1103 supports CDMA from the stone-age, don't know why the americans (VZW/Sprint) haven't moved on yet.
The XT1100 supports the required LTE bands to be used in Sweden. Most likely the common EU Bands (Band 3/Band 7/Band 20).
The XT1103 supports 3 and 7, but not 20 which is the main LTE band in European countries.

Xiaomi Mi9 TE versions and differences

Hello everyone!
As far as I know there are two versions of the Transparent Edition Mi9
8/256GB and 12/256GB. The 12GB model was the first one with the difference in the storage and RAM and it has a 7P elements 48mp camera instead of the 6P on regular Mi9 models and it has a bigger aperture one as well with F. 47.
On March 22nd Xiaomi released the 8/256GB TE model which has the same camera tech as a regular Mi9 but it has the B20 LTE modem which is used in Europe.
Does anyone know something about this? Am K true? That the 8/256GB model is the 'global' version of the Mi9 TE?
If anyone knows something about this please let me know!

No band 20 on either TE versions, as far as I'm aware...
Where did you read this?

On some websites written in my mother language (Hungarian). They were totally sure about the B20 in the 8/256GB model

csekebenji said:
On some websites written in my mother language (Hungarian). They were totally sure about the B20 in the 8/256GB model
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Not sure then, I've got the 12GB on order. Would be interested to know this for sure...

Guys just look at the asian china site. In the specification of MI9 TE there is no LTE Band 20 .... so dont do this mistake when you live in europe..... you never can use LTE with this china versions of MI9 in europe .....

xenix96 said:
Guys just look at the asian china site. In the specification of MI9 TE there is no LTE Band 20 .... so dont do this mistake when you live in europe..... you never can use LTE with this china versions of MI9 in europe .....
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I can,, my provider (ee, UK) uses b3, b7 for LTE. But yeah, for most LTE won't work

Purchasing NA model with Band 28 outside of US?

When I purchased my RM3 through the official website, I indicated I was from Australia and was sent to the Global site.
The model I received though was the EU version which does not have LTE Band 28 (best LTE band for the two major phone carriers in Aus), whilst the North American (NA) version does.
I'm still trying to sort out a refund (I had asked before the phone was sent to ensure it was the model with Band 28) but support suggested that if I want the NA model then I purchase it through the NA site (na.redmagic.gg) - trouble is, that site only ships to the US and Canada!
How can I get my hands on the NA model?!?

Anyone? I can't even find external sellers (eg. Aliexpress) that sell the NA version, it's all the EU/Global version with no Band 28
Surely the so-called 'Global' version should have more bands than the North American version but it has less!

Question Global Version Vs Chinese Flased with global

I need a new phone ASAP as my phone died, I am waiting for a month for the global version but nothing comes out.
I was wondering what are the differences between global version to the Chinese version flashed with a global rom.
Thanks!

Basically, 2 main differences:
1) Global ROM vs China ROM: Global ROM supports more languages whereas the China ROM has fewer (English is supported).
2) 4G/5G Bands: Global version of the phone supports more bands than the China version.
Hope that helps!

Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.

Nuclear Blast said:
Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.
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so whats the main diffrences ?

Nuclear Blast said:
Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.
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I don't think that's true. I've flashed Global, EU and China ROM on my China model.
I've yet to see band 66 being used. With my Pixel 4 XL that was the main band I used at my house. If China had band 66 like global does I would have seen it by now.
It still works fine without it though. Maybe it's a firmware modem thing with band support and not hardware but either way. China model will not get the same bands.

China model definitely lacks the 66 band according to kimovil.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11-pro-plus
This is what makes me hesitate being in the US on T-Mobile. Concerned if the area where I am uses the 66 band.

daonei said:
China model definitely lacks the 66 band according to kimovil.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11-pro-plus
This is what makes me hesitate being in the US on T-Mobile. Concerned if the area where I am uses the 66 band.
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The Pro is China only.
The ultra is a global model so it may have all the bands.

Does they both have Google services natively?

Arr6 said:
Does they both have Google services natively?
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The ultra has the Gms framework installed
All you have to do is download the Google playstore from xiaomis app store and install it
Then you can get everything you need and it will work

The China version doesn’t have the same bands. Also the firmware is different and you will get the odd glitches with your apps & some apps/services won’t work properly.
The global is out very soon across U.K. & Europe.

gavinfabl said:
The China version doesn’t have the same bands. Also the firmware is different and you will get the odd glitches with your apps & some apps/services won’t work properly.
The global is out very soon across U.K. & Europe.
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There's no glitches whatsoever in the CH rom. The CH rom is more optimised anyway. You just need to fiddle around with some notification settings

Can anyone confirm if Google Pay, Banking Apps and Pokémon GO will work with the Global ROM on CN phone from alibabab? (I am assuming no since the bootloader is most likely unlocked?)

pafc66 said:
There's no glitches whatsoever in the CH rom. The CH rom is more optimised anyway. You just need to fiddle around with some notification settings
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You are totally right. Also the battery life will always be better on CH roms. The global versions just seem better for some people because users don't put the effort to understand MIUI settings. Global roms just leave some MIUI options at predefined values so that users don't have to tackle with them but battery takes a hit.

I used to try to stay on the China ROM on my Mi 10 Ultra but there where many apps that was impossible to get to work as they should. For example work-applications that is protected under "intune".
China-ROM closed them down even if I choosed NOT to have them "optimized" etc.... It was so bad that I could not use the phone for work at all.
After flashing Xiaomi.eu it has been working decent.

Parkourhaderatt said:
so whats the main diffrences ?
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Chinese is cheap because it is packed full of services they can monetize BUT ONLY in china
search engines, shopping sites, payment apps and gateways,cloud storage, games and paid themes etc
They can sell the phones nearly at cost price and make their profit on the user over the lifetime of the device
Global costs about $500 more because they can't make money from all those other streams of revenue , so they need to make their money from the hardware sale alone
The hardware is identical tho....
Buy the Chinese 12/512 if you can get one cheap and flash the global or Eu ROM yourself is optimal

Isn’t there a lack of a few bands on the China version vs global as well.

4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 32, 38, 40, 41, 42, 66 - International
4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42 - China
5G bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 77, 78, 79 SA/NSA - International
5G bands 1, 3, 28, 41, 77, 78, 79 SA/NSA - China
Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com

xchatter said:
You are totally right. Also the battery life will always be better on CH roms. The global versions just seem better for some people because users don't put the effort to understand MIUI settings. Global roms just leave some MIUI options at predefined values so that users don't have to tackle with them but battery takes a hit.
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What are these options you are talking about?

Nuclear Blast said:
Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.
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Do not write stupid things if you do not know for sure. Identical hardware does not mean you can transfer CN version to Global. How do you think the global version is much more expensive than CN one? The problem is you can install Global Version of ROM to CN version but you DO NOT change Bands supported by both Versions.
Regards

PanNet said:
Do not write stupid things if you do not know for sure. Identical hardware does not mean you can transfer CN version to Global. How do you think the global version is much more expensive than CN one? The problem is you can install Global Version of ROM to CN version but you DO NOT change Bands supported by both Versions.
Regards
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You are not right, and you wrote fake info, that will be able to put someone on the wrong way.
But - it's your chiice