Question Global Version Vs Chinese Flased with global - Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra

I need a new phone ASAP as my phone died, I am waiting for a month for the global version but nothing comes out.
I was wondering what are the differences between global version to the Chinese version flashed with a global rom.
Thanks!

Basically, 2 main differences:
1) Global ROM vs China ROM: Global ROM supports more languages whereas the China ROM has fewer (English is supported).
2) 4G/5G Bands: Global version of the phone supports more bands than the China version.
Hope that helps!

Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.

Nuclear Blast said:
Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.
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so whats the main diffrences ?

Nuclear Blast said:
Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.
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I don't think that's true. I've flashed Global, EU and China ROM on my China model.
I've yet to see band 66 being used. With my Pixel 4 XL that was the main band I used at my house. If China had band 66 like global does I would have seen it by now.
It still works fine without it though. Maybe it's a firmware modem thing with band support and not hardware but either way. China model will not get the same bands.

China model definitely lacks the 66 band according to kimovil.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11-pro-plus
This is what makes me hesitate being in the US on T-Mobile. Concerned if the area where I am uses the 66 band.

daonei said:
China model definitely lacks the 66 band according to kimovil.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/xiaomi-mi-11-pro-plus
This is what makes me hesitate being in the US on T-Mobile. Concerned if the area where I am uses the 66 band.
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The Pro is China only.
The ultra is a global model so it may have all the bands.

Does they both have Google services natively?

Arr6 said:
Does they both have Google services natively?
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The ultra has the Gms framework installed
All you have to do is download the Google playstore from xiaomis app store and install it
Then you can get everything you need and it will work

The China version doesn’t have the same bands. Also the firmware is different and you will get the odd glitches with your apps & some apps/services won’t work properly.
The global is out very soon across U.K. & Europe.

gavinfabl said:
The China version doesn’t have the same bands. Also the firmware is different and you will get the odd glitches with your apps & some apps/services won’t work properly.
The global is out very soon across U.K. & Europe.
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There's no glitches whatsoever in the CH rom. The CH rom is more optimised anyway. You just need to fiddle around with some notification settings

Can anyone confirm if Google Pay, Banking Apps and Pokémon GO will work with the Global ROM on CN phone from alibabab? (I am assuming no since the bootloader is most likely unlocked?)

pafc66 said:
There's no glitches whatsoever in the CH rom. The CH rom is more optimised anyway. You just need to fiddle around with some notification settings
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You are totally right. Also the battery life will always be better on CH roms. The global versions just seem better for some people because users don't put the effort to understand MIUI settings. Global roms just leave some MIUI options at predefined values so that users don't have to tackle with them but battery takes a hit.

I used to try to stay on the China ROM on my Mi 10 Ultra but there where many apps that was impossible to get to work as they should. For example work-applications that is protected under "intune".
China-ROM closed them down even if I choosed NOT to have them "optimized" etc.... It was so bad that I could not use the phone for work at all.
After flashing Xiaomi.eu it has been working decent.

Parkourhaderatt said:
so whats the main diffrences ?
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Chinese is cheap because it is packed full of services they can monetize BUT ONLY in china
search engines, shopping sites, payment apps and gateways,cloud storage, games and paid themes etc
They can sell the phones nearly at cost price and make their profit on the user over the lifetime of the device
Global costs about $500 more because they can't make money from all those other streams of revenue , so they need to make their money from the hardware sale alone
The hardware is identical tho....
Buy the Chinese 12/512 if you can get one cheap and flash the global or Eu ROM yourself is optimal

Isn’t there a lack of a few bands on the China version vs global as well.

4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 32, 38, 40, 41, 42, 66 - International
4G bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42 - China
5G bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 77, 78, 79 SA/NSA - International
5G bands 1, 3, 28, 41, 77, 78, 79 SA/NSA - China
Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra - Full phone specifications
www.gsmarena.com

xchatter said:
You are totally right. Also the battery life will always be better on CH roms. The global versions just seem better for some people because users don't put the effort to understand MIUI settings. Global roms just leave some MIUI options at predefined values so that users don't have to tackle with them but battery takes a hit.
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What are these options you are talking about?

Nuclear Blast said:
Info about bands isn't true.
Both version of phone - CN and Global/European - are hardware equal / identical.
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Do not write stupid things if you do not know for sure. Identical hardware does not mean you can transfer CN version to Global. How do you think the global version is much more expensive than CN one? The problem is you can install Global Version of ROM to CN version but you DO NOT change Bands supported by both Versions.
Regards

PanNet said:
Do not write stupid things if you do not know for sure. Identical hardware does not mean you can transfer CN version to Global. How do you think the global version is much more expensive than CN one? The problem is you can install Global Version of ROM to CN version but you DO NOT change Bands supported by both Versions.
Regards
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You are not right, and you wrote fake info, that will be able to put someone on the wrong way.
But - it's your chiice

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Xiaomi Mi9 TE versions and differences

Hello everyone!
As far as I know there are two versions of the Transparent Edition Mi9
8/256GB and 12/256GB. The 12GB model was the first one with the difference in the storage and RAM and it has a 7P elements 48mp camera instead of the 6P on regular Mi9 models and it has a bigger aperture one as well with F. 47.
On March 22nd Xiaomi released the 8/256GB TE model which has the same camera tech as a regular Mi9 but it has the B20 LTE modem which is used in Europe.
Does anyone know something about this? Am K true? That the 8/256GB model is the 'global' version of the Mi9 TE?
If anyone knows something about this please let me know!
No band 20 on either TE versions, as far as I'm aware...
Where did you read this?
On some websites written in my mother language (Hungarian). They were totally sure about the B20 in the 8/256GB model
csekebenji said:
On some websites written in my mother language (Hungarian). They were totally sure about the B20 in the 8/256GB model
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Not sure then, I've got the 12GB on order. Would be interested to know this for sure...
Guys just look at the asian china site. In the specification of MI9 TE there is no LTE Band 20 .... so dont do this mistake when you live in europe..... you never can use LTE with this china versions of MI9 in europe .....
xenix96 said:
Guys just look at the asian china site. In the specification of MI9 TE there is no LTE Band 20 .... so dont do this mistake when you live in europe..... you never can use LTE with this china versions of MI9 in europe .....
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I can,, my provider (ee, UK) uses b3, b7 for LTE. But yeah, for most LTE won't work

Will K20 Pro work in NZ?

I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
NZ Razer said:
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
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The K20 Pro does not have global network bands. Where it's sold with a global ROM, these are unofficial global ROMs, they do not and cannot add extra lte bands.
The Mi 9T, as well as coming with an official global ROM also had a few extra lte bands unlocked. The Mi 9T Pro will do the same, when it eventually arrives.
Looking at your carrier, it uses bands 3, 7 and 28 (maybe 40 too, but could have been a different NZ carrier). The K20 Pro is missing band 28.
Band 28 is a relatively low frequency band, these can travel further and penetrate obstacles better, before losing significant signal strength and quality. Quite often the low frequency bands are used in rural areas, where masts are spread widely, or major city centres that are very heavily built up.
NZ is a very sparsely populated country, so it's possible band 28 is heavily relied on outside of the town's and cities. But this is only my slightly educated guess. I would suggest doing some more homework on how much of the 2Degree network relies on band 28.
I imagine in and around towns and cities you'll have very little issues, but that's a small percent of the country.
Assuming the Mi 9T Pro will have the same bands as the Mi 9T, then it will come with band 28
Robbo.5000 said:
The K20 Pro does not have global network bands. Where it's sold with a global ROM, these are unofficial global ROMs, they do not and cannot add extra lte bands.
The Mi 9T, as well as coming with an official global ROM also had a few extra lte bands unlocked. The Mi 9T Pro will do the same, when it eventually arrives.
Looking at your carrier, it uses bands 3, 7 and 28 (maybe 40 too, but could have been a different NZ carrier). The K20 Pro is missing band 28.
Band 28 is a relatively low frequency band, these can travel further and penetrate obstacles better, before losing significant signal strength and quality. Quite often the low frequency bands are used in rural areas, where masts are spread widely, or major city centres that are very heavily built up.
NZ is a very sparsely populated country, so it's possible band 28 is heavily relied on outside of the town's and cities. But this is only my slightly educated guess. I would suggest doing some more homework on how much of the 2Degree network relies on band 28.
I imagine in and around towns and cities you'll have very little issues, but that's a small percent of the country.
Assuming the Mi 9T Pro will have the same bands as the Mi 9T, then it will come with band 28
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It says that 2degrees doesn't use B28, only other carriers in NZ. So that would mean its safe to assume it would work?
Thanks
NZ Razer said:
It says that 2degrees doesn't use B28, only other carriers in NZ. So that would mean its safe to assume it would work?
Thanks
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I checked on Wikipedia, however I was looking at the bands for Spark by mistake. 2Degrees uses 3, 8 and 28.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks?wprov=sfla1
Band 8 is on the K20 Pro and is also a low frequency band. So it could well be that it will work OK. However it is showing that band 8 was added to the 2Degrees network only last year, so might still be wise to see if you can find out how widespread band 8 is used on their network.
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A bit more reading. The 2Degree website FAQs confirms it uses the above 3 bands. Band 8 was previously used for their 2G network, but was freed up when they turned off 2G, which allowed them to use it for LTE. Maybe that will mean it's use is widespread.
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
NZ Razer said:
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
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Not sure about NZ, but in Australia it works. I'm with ALDI mobile which I guess is Telstra.
billybrownbear said:
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
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Vladimir Lenin said:
Not sure about NZ, but in Australia it works. I'm with ALDI mobile which I guess is Telstra.
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I've gone ahead and purchased it as of an hour ago excited to get my hands on it, this makes me even more confident as your bands are the same pretty much. Can't wait!
billybrownbear said:
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
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Australia use band 28, not 20.
Global version and chinese version are using same 4G bands so there won't be any problems.
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Model numbers/regions - which is which?

My Red Magic 3 arrived yesterday, must say very speedy delivery, 3 days only DHL express to Australia which was excellent.
I'm having trouble identifying the different models though, I've seen reference to a Chinese (CN), Global, EU but also 'NA' versions?
Not sure if some are the same thing? I'm concerned as from what I can tell, the EU version doesn't have LTE Band 28 (which I want) but the NA version does and I'm not sure what version I have other than it was branded NX629J.
https://global.redmagic.gg/pages/red-magic-3-specs (under 'Connectivity')
Can anyone assist please?
Texan1 said:
My Red Magic 3 arrived yesterday, must say very speedy delivery, 3 days only DHL express to Australia which was excellent.
I'm having trouble identifying the different models though, I've seen reference to a Chinese (CN), Global, EU but also 'NA' versions?
Not sure if some are the same thing? I'm concerned as from what I can tell, the EU version doesn't have LTE Band 28 (which I want) but the NA version does and I'm not sure what version I have other than it was branded NX629J.
https://global.redmagic.gg/pages/red-magic-3-specs (under 'Connectivity')
Can anyone assist please?
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There is no different between global versions. The only difference is the LTE Band as u said , thats it
No big difference , same Android pie 9
em902566 said:
There is no different between global versions. The only difference is the LTE Band as u said , thats it
No big difference , same Android pie 9
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Yes but the LTE bands can make a big difference! Two of the major Australian mobile carriers use Band 28 so I'm trying to work out which version of the Red Magic 3 I have and if it has that band.
Texan1 said:
Yes but the LTE bands can make a big difference! Two of the major Australian mobile carriers use Band 28 so I'm trying to work out which version of the Red Magic 3 I have and if it has that band.
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Try this link
https://global.redmagic.gg/blogs/news/red-magic-3-global-rom-flash-instructions
There is two version of global rom
Us is version 1.11
Europe version is 2.07
Well I have NA version but running EU Rom v2.09....when I run the CN Rom I don't get LTE just 4g. So if you not getting LTE then install your region global Rom.
LTE bands are a hardware limitation, not software, so it won't matter what rom I'm running.
I'm just trying to find out if my model has band 28 or not!
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...emium-edition-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-128gb-nx629j
In theory software and hardware, I will tell you In US on CN Rom no LTE just 4g....but on either Global I Get LTE.

Tencent version vs global version

Thinking of grabbing the 12gb ram version. Any reason to get global over china version?
Global not out until late Sept but im waiting re band differences. great site https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/AU/asus-rog-phone-2
Some folks have said that bands 66 and 71 will be supported in the Intl version. I hope that’s correct.
Cellendril said:
Some folks have said that bands 66 and 71 will be supported in the Intl version. I hope that’s correct.
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Same here. If I cant use volte, that's a no go for me
It seem the 12gb ram Chinese Asus rog 2 have more bands than the 8gb ram one. Can anyone verify? Has the 12gb ram been release in China yet?
Cellendril said:
Some folks have said that bands 66 and 71 will be supported in the Intl version. I hope that’s correct.
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Here's the information for the two Chinese version. IMO the 5999 version is same as intl version except Chinese firmware.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE; WCDMA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+;TD-SCDMA; CDMA 2000;FDD-LTE; TD-LTE Same
LTE Cat13 UL up to 150Mbps / Cat16 DL up to 1.0Gbps vs LTE Cat18 UL up to 211Mbps / Cat18 DL up to 1.2Gbps
DC-HSPA+: UL 5.76Mbps / DL 42Mbps same
LTE DL 5CA same
Unknown vs Support 4x4 MIMO and CA w/ 4x4 MIMO
FDD-LTE band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 adding band 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 26, 28, 29, 32, 66
TD-LTE band 34, 38, 39, 40, 41 adding band 46
WCDMA band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 adding band 6, 19
TD-SCDMA band 34, 39 same
CDMA band BC0 same
EDGE/GPRS/GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz same
And the information on ASUS taiwan website shows that taiwan version have no TD-SCDMA nor CDMA 2000. Other are same with the Chinese 5999 vision.
Thanks. So band 66 but not 71. Ugh, that’s a shame with T-Mobile, especially with the Razer Phone covering band 66 and 71.
Edit: /facepalm. This phone can actually go on any carrier, so just have to see if any make sense.
So then is the 512gb tencent no good for Verizon? I tried Razer 2 but they said even if it has the bands to work on Verizon, they may have deleted support to get ready for 5g. Had to send the Razer back and I really want the rog 2 but I'm tired of losing signal with att where I live so I'd really like to get the correct model, if any that support verizon
I'm on T-Mobile as well, so I definitely need to know if this device supports volte in the states
I contacted Asus North America to ask if the version we get will include bands 66 and 71. I mentioned how it would be a huge selling factor for those of us on T-mobile. They responded that that would forward it to the product team.
Dracer35 said:
I contacted Asus North America to ask if the version we get will include bands 66 and 71. I mentioned how it would be a huge selling factor for those of us on T-mobile. They responded that that would forward it to the product team.
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They'd be stupid not to. Unless they like losing money. I know if it doesn't support those bands, it's not even a question anymore, I won't be getting it
ZeroKool76 said:
They'd be stupid not to. Unless they like losing money. I know if it doesn't support those bands, it's not even a question anymore, I won't be getting it
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Same. Where I'm at, 66 and 71 are crucial for me.
Tencent chinese version does not include EU/US bands..
https://i2.wp.com/www.lowyat.net/wp...ii-malaysia-vs-tencent-01.jpg?zoom=2.75&ssl=1

How do you tell if global variant is version a or b?

After no one could answer this question properly,
I found out more info on it myself and find the following information to be 100% accurate. Here's the only way to find out what it is. Tested and proved by asking for pics of manuals in the box from sellers, and asus support.
Triangle box alone doesn't mean anything. If Model number on the bottom of the triangle box matches taiwan( ZS661KS - 6A015TW) or U.S model number (Not released yet) and box says 512gb + 12gb or 16gb ram, it is guaranteed to be version A that has all the bands for global use.
If triangle box is any other model number, there's a 50/50 chance that it will be a or b. Only way to find out is by going to the bands page in the manuals in the box.
If it says tencent and comes in a rectangular box, it is guaranteed to be version b with less bands not recommended to use on U.S carriers.
If it says 865 (not 865 plus) in triangle box which is the strix edition, its guaranteed version b.
Here's a pic of version b bands inside global variant of 512gb 12gb ram rog phone 3. Zs661ks-6a026ww https://ibb.co/3zM1sLm
https://ibb.co/LPT9pS6
Another way of knowing which model comes in both version a and b is by going to the asus website and changing the region. You'll see only taiwan and u.s has version a only models. The other regions come in both a and b versions so again its a 50/50 chance with those.
Good luck purchasing the phone. I went ahead with ordering oneplus 8 pro over the rog 3 for my needs
Seconded. I would also like to know this, since apparently the SKU isn't going to say (mine has the SKU of 6A027WW, which Hong Kong's Asus store's website assures supports US bands, but I'm still a little concerned since mine's also apparently supposed to be a Strix phone when it doesn't even mention Strix on the back).
There needs to be a guide on how to tell which phone is which. Tencent? Elite? Classic? Strix? 8/12/16GB RAM? 128/256/512GB storage? A or B version?
For Tencent, it is easy. There's only square box and it will say Tencent on the box. All Tencent sets are version B.
For ROG Phone 3 (865+), the square box is version B and 6 prism box is version A. For Strix, both square and 6 prism boxes are version B. There is no version A.
How to tell between Strix and ROG Phone 3? See the box label. It will say 865 or 865+.
All Global variants are Version B.
American market version is Version A (more network bands overall)
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/asus-rog-phone-3
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All Global variants are Version B.
American market version is Version A (more network bands overall)
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/asus-rog-phone-3
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That's wrong. I emailed asus and they said it should mention the version on the box. Also, the band support is written in the manuals in the box.
There's Version a and b in the global variants for Hong Kong, Singapore, and like 2 other countries. A version a only model is only for u.s which is not released yet, Taiwan and germany. This does not include the tencent or strix models. Those are seperate.
Sugaaa said:
That's wrong. I emailed asus and they said it should mention the version on the box. Also, the band support is written in the manuals in the box.
There's Version a and b in the global variants for Hong Kong, Singapore, and like 2 other countries. A version a only model is only for u.s which is not released yet, Taiwan and germany. This does not include the tencent or strix models. Those are seperate.
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I would like to know where you get the data from. I am from Singapore and ASUS SG only sell version A.
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All Global variants are Version B.
American market version is Version A (more network bands overall)
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/asus-rog-phone-3
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Where did you get the data that all global variants are version B?
Please check Asus Website you can see in TechSpecs ROG 3, All Global Variants is Version A.
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ROG-Phone-3/Tech-Specs/
A version
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
LTE 6CA: DL Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N28, N41, N66, N71, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 48)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (Bands BC0) (CN and HK only)
TD-SCDMA (Bands 34, 38) (CN and HK only)
B version
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1)
FR1: DL up to 2.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
LTE 6CA: DL Cat18 up to 1.2 Gbps / UL Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N41, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (Bands BC0) (CN and HK only)
TD-SCDMA (Bands 34, 38) (CN and HK only)
ASUS phone 5G/4G band compatibility varies by region, please check compatibility with local carriers.
lornranger said:
I would like to know where you get the data from. I am from Singapore and ASUS SG only sell version A.
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Where did you get the data that all global variants are version B?
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Go to asus website and change the region to Singapore. It should list version a and b. I confirmed it also by asking ebay sellers. There was a specific seller with the Singapore model because I checked up the model number who checked the manuals in the box and sent me a picture confirming it was version b.
I researched everything I said from asus website, confirming with ebay sellers that were in possession of the item and now have shared my results above since no one knew the answers.
In the end, I went with ordering the oneplus 8 pro because it was ip68 rated and could not find any water resistant cases to use on the rog for the gym. Good luck guys.
ryu091 said:
Please check Asus Website you can see in TechSpecs ROG 3, All Global Variants is Version A.
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ROG-Phone-3/Tech-Specs/
A version
Supports EN-DC (6DL+FR1)
FR1: DL up to 3.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
LTE 6CA: DL Cat20 up to 2.0 Gbps / UL Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N1, N2, N3, N5, N28, N41, N66, N71, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 48)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 19)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (Bands BC0) (CN and HK only)
TD-SCDMA (Bands 34, 38) (CN and HK only)
B version
Supports EN-DC (5DL+FR1)
FR1: DL up to 2.8 Gbps / UL 542 Mbps
LTE 6CA: DL Cat18 up to 1.2 Gbps / UL Cat13 up to 150 Mbps
DC-HSPA+: DL 42 Mbps / UL 5.76 Mbps
4x4 MIMO and CA with 4x4 MIMO support
5G (Bands N41, N77, N78, N79)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28)
TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41)
WCDMA (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8)
EDGE/GPRS/GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (Bands BC0) (CN and HK only)
TD-SCDMA (Bands 34, 38) (CN and HK only)
ASUS phone 5G/4G band compatibility varies by region, please check compatibility with local carriers.
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That doesn't mean they're all version a. It specifically mentions versions a and b so that means it could be either of them.
Sugaaa said:
Go to asus website and change the region to Singapore. It should list version a and b. I confirmed it also by asking ebay sellers. There was a specific seller with the Singapore model because I checked up the model number who checked the manuals in the box and sent me a picture confirming it was version b.
I researched everything I said from asus website, confirming with ebay sellers that were in possession of the item and now have shared my results above since no one knew the answers.
In the end, I went with ordering the oneplus 8 pro because it was ip68 rated and could not find any water resistant cases to use on the rog for the gym. Good luck guys.
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Asus SG is just plain lazy to modify the spec sheet. They copied and pasted from Asus global spec sheet, changing only the Memory section. Ebay sellers? Likely to be scammer. Asus SG only distribute version A. There are lots of export set floating around 3rd party sellers in Singapore. Asus Singapore model is ZS661KS-6A026WW.
lornranger said:
Asus SG is just plain lazy to modify the spec sheet. They copied and pasted from Asus global spec sheet, changing only the Memory section. Ebay sellers? Likely to be scammer. Asus SG only distribute version A. There are lots of export set floating around 3rd party sellers in Singapore. Asus Singapore model is ZS661KS-6A026WW.
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Like I said, the seller sent me pictures of the box and manuals for ZS661KS-6A026WW and the manuals inside showed band support for version b. The seller had multiple in stock and sold many with good ratings. I already did all the necessary research and contacted asus and they told me to check the box and manuals. So yes, I'm right. There's version a and version b for some of the global variants including the Singapore variant.
Sugaaa said:
Like I said, the seller sent me pictures of the box and manuals for ZS661KS-6A026WW and the manuals inside showed band support for version b. The seller had multiple in stock and sold many with good ratings. I already did all the necessary research and contacted asus and they told me to check the box and manuals. So yes, I'm right. There's version a and version b for some of the global variants including the Singapore variant.
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Well, user manual in the box is the same for all.
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone-3/HelpDesk_Manual/
Take a look at the US english manual. It is not version A. So does that means USA does not have version A?
So does the ebay seller have a "Version A" set with the full RF bands listed in the user manual?
Sugaaa said:
Like I said, the seller sent me pictures of the box and manuals for ZS661KS-6A026WW and the manuals inside showed band support for version b. The seller had multiple in stock and sold many with good ratings. I already did all the necessary research and contacted asus and they told me to check the box and manuals. So yes, I'm right. There's version a and version b for some of the global variants including the Singapore variant.
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I'm in Malaysia. Asus Malaysia also seems to carry both Version A and B. But we also get the lower end 8GB Strix model.
I was told that only the Strix version is Version B while the other ROG models (prism box) is version A. However like I said I cannot get a consistent answer for this. The best I can get is that HK Asus site lists my SKU (ZS661KS-6A027WW) as supporting the necessary bands. Seems that whole of Asia gets the WW version.
Is there a way to figure out if the ROG 3 is "version A" or "version B" based on the retail package info, prior to buying the phone?
lornranger said:
Well, user manual in the box is the same for all.
https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ROG-Phone-3/HelpDesk_Manual/
Take a look at the US english manual. It is not version A. So does that means USA does not have version A?
So does the ebay seller have a "Version A" set with the full RF bands listed in the user manual?
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That's just 1 or 2 models translated in different languages. If you change region on asus website, you should see a couple of different models with different manuals. Just send the seller a message asking for the bands specification in the manuals if you're buying a global variant. If you want to be sure you're getting version a, buy the taiwan or the upcoming u.s model. Both only come in version a.
Hello my model is zs661ks-6a012cn global rom.I would like to know if this is version A or B?Inside the box i found a manual in chinese language but does not refer to network bands.
kost9992002 said:
Hello my model is zs661ks-6a012cn global rom.I would like to know if this is version A or B?Inside the box i found a manual in chinese language but does not refer to network bands.
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The CN refer to Tencent set. The seller loaded global ROM. It is version B.
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RAMChYLD said:
I'm in Malaysia. Asus Malaysia also seems to carry both Version A and B. But we also get the lower end 8GB Strix model.
I was told that only the Strix version is Version B while the other ROG models (prism box) is version A. However like I said I cannot get a consistent answer for this. The best I can get is that HK Asus site lists my SKU (ZS661KS-6A027WW) as supporting the necessary bands. Seems that whole of Asia gets the WW version.
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Does it smell like Samsung Note 20 copper vs graphite again?
My local Asus said they do not know and have no info on Version A or B.
If its in triangle box its A version. Its simple guys. Stop overthinking it.
bs3pro said:
If its in triangle box its A version. Its simple guys. Stop overthinking it.
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Wrong. Triangle box alone doesn't mean crap. If Model number on triangle box says 512gb + 12gb or 16gb ram and matches taiwan or U.S model number, it is guaranteed to be version A.
If triangle box is any other model number, there's a 50/50 chance that it will be a or b. Only way to find out is by going to the bands page in the manuals in the box.
Proof is a guy sent me manuals inside triangle box of Singapore global variant and bands matched b.
How do we know which model number refers to which country?
Also, aren't all CN (tencent) models same as "Version B" network bands?

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