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Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
Wrong place bro
You can get help from @s.sawrav and @pirej,these are sort of devs who could help you.
Btw if you can,please try to compile also nougat if you can.
And use Google for things you want to learn like oc,governors and stuff there are some pretty good threads here on XDA on how to build kernels and add features to it like this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/ultimate-guide-compile-android-kernel-t2871276 .
Wish you best luck?
Great, one more Dev for our little beast. Try Paranoid next ...
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Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
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wow great!!!! i have some request. please build cm11. i know is oldschool, but its pretty light and stable for me
Keep up mates,... You are awesome!!
Great Work Bro
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Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819).....
Well down bro... Great to go.. There are developers here who may help you to grow. I wish you all developers good luck and hearty THANKS for all your works here..
Thanks & Regards,
Ashok M
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Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
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Good job :good: but this is not the right section to post this,ask a moderator to move this thread to appropriate section,also checkout the chef central in android section of XDA and then there's google,it'll help you out a lot.
Thread belongs in Discussing forum not Development, moved as requested by OP
CENTSOARER said:
Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
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Just start from doing the green thing
That's the best way to learn, and when/if you are happy with the modifications you made, and you think that the rom you made is different enough to be posted as a different/new/your rom, then post it.
pirej said:
Just start from doing the green thing
That's the best way to learn, and when/if you are happy with the modifications you made, and you think that the rom you made is different enough to be posted as a different/new/your rom, then post it.
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I'm not familiar with the meaning of "the green thing", I love plants, so it would be great it is a plant-related saying. Care to elaborate a little? At the moment I am learning some useful repo parameters and attempting to build Resurrection Remix which seems going just OK.
I am downloading too all the source code from CM11, I think that's gonna be doable for a newbie like me, AOSPA is just too much right now, so I gave up with that for now, even documentation is hard to get.
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I'm not familiar with the meaning of "the green thing", I love plants, so it would be great it is a plant-related saying. Care to elaborate a little? At the moment I am learning some useful repo parameters and attempting to build Resurrection Remix which seems going just OK.
I am downloading too all the source code from CM11, I think that's gonna be doable for a newbie like me, AOSPA is just too much right now, so I gave up with that for now, even documentation is hard to get.
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in my quote of your post... i used GREEN color to mark something..
pirej said:
in my quote of your post... i used GREEN color to mark something..
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Oh, I see now, thanks for the advice. This XDA Forums app can't parse color tags, so I was lost.
Hey I Was hoping you could build and Maintain a stable Cyanogen 12.1! A lot of people are still using 12.1 and kumajaya has stopped active development on that ROM. Plus the Sailfish OS community would really benefit from your support
As a flashaholic XD ,I would like to say on behalf of the Note 5 community that we the users would like to see a stable build of cyanogenmod for all variants
Maybe a few devs could work together instead of competing for the best debloated or tweaked stock rom
I know for certain that the devs will gain a lot of respect and it would be better than any Note 7 port
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As a flashaholic XD ,I would like to say on behalf of the Note 5 community that we the users would like to see a stable build of cyanogenmod for all variants
Maybe a few devs could work together instead of competing for the best debloated or tweaked stock rom
I know for certain that the devs will gain a lot of respect and it would be better than any Note 7 port
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Have a read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-kernel-note-5-t3427086
That should give you some background to what has been developed to date.
Hopefully the issues can be resolved and further development continue one day.
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Have a read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/development/wip-cyanogenmod-kernel-note-5-t3427086
That should give you some background to what has been developed to date.
Hopefully the issues can be resolved and further development continue one day.
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Well unfortunately mate the rom will never return to xda again some trolls got on our nerves rilq and suzook or something couldn't be bother to check
But the good news we didn't stop development and we were not going to stop even after what happened we have been building the rom for our personal use and decided to share it here
Technically when we decided to leave we didn't lose anything. It is a little unfortunate that the people of xda are the ones who winded up in the mix because of those trolls but none of us wanted to deal with the them
Just an fyi
The_grim_creeper said:
Well unfortunately mate the rom will never return to xda again some trolls got on our nerves rilq and suzook or something couldn't be bother to check
But the good news we didn't stop development and we were not going to stop even after what happened we have been building the rom for our personal use and decided to share it here
Technically when we decided to leave we didn't lose anything. It is a little unfortunate that the people of xda are the ones who winded up in the mix because of those trolls but none of us wanted to deal with the them
Just an fyi
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So where can we follow the new updates
Is anyone besides myself tired of unfinished ROMS because the dev has "move on"? I really do appreciate the work put into these ROMS by the developers, but they have to appreciate the work put into the testing of these ROMS by the users. I've tried ROM after ROM after ROM, only to have the dev leave incomplete work because they want to move on to something newer. Or they can't figure out a problem and don't have the patience to try.
The forums are littered with unfinished ROMS. I've now started to check the last few pages to see if the dev is still involved before trying a ROM. I find this a complete waste of my time that the devs don't consider. Considering there are more users than devs, the waste of user time must be enormous. In my company, I would never consider wasting my user's time like this. The cost in dollars would be way too much. Yet here on XDA, developers do this every day.
Anyway, as I said, am I the only one tired of this?
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Jeff
zirt57 said:
Is anyone besides myself tired of unfinished ROMS because the dev has "move on"? I really do appreciate the work put into these ROMS by the developers, but they have to appreciate the work put into the testing of these ROMS by the users. I've tried ROM after ROM after ROM, only to have the dev leave incomplete work because they want to move on to something newer. Or they can't figure out a problem and don't have the patience to try.
The forums are littered with unfinished ROMS. I've now started to check the last few pages to see if the dev is still involved before trying a ROM. I find this a complete waste of my time that the devs don't consider. Considering there are more users than devs, the waste of user time must be enormous. In my company, I would never consider wasting my user's time like this. The cost in dollars would be way too much. Yet here on XDA, developers do this every day.
Anyway, as I said, am I the only one tired of this?
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Jeff
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Don't know cuz... You have to think of it as a think tank, a collaboration of thoughts and trial an error!
What Devs get discouraged is, repeat, repeat, repeat...
The disclaimers are there, basically use it or not, if you want you money back, your in the wrong place... hah, hah.
My small team made a decision. We are finnaly creating our own custom ROM and it will be called Android Open Source Dark Project( based on AOSP as how name suggests), and for sure it will have official support for this device and P8Lite 2017, and many other. Currently we are recruiting members since we are too few to make a ROM by ourselves.
News: ROM Development has officially started.
I will not leak too much features now but first version will be based on nougat Oreo, will have a full, true dark mode and will be blazingly fast. The rest you'll find out when we'll release it.
If you think you have all what we need and you want to work with us, here is a form where you can apply freely: Android Open Source Dark Project Application
Estimated release date: November 2018
Best Regards,
Anyone who wants to find out the latest news about the ROM join the Telegram group: Android Open Source Dark Project Telegram
suport for chc—u01?
Enviado do meu hi6210sft através de Tapatalk
Here a beta tester for you. I own P8 Lite 2015 and I am using now other phone as a daily driver so I can do tests without problems and provide logcats.
Luck anyway
Hope you and your team may add hardware nav button mapper(like on aospa and dot os)
Good luck ?
Sent from my ALICE using XDA Labs
My only question is.... Why? Aren't here already 10+ roms, 100+ garbage custom ones with 0 support? Why you need to make 1 more? How will this help us or anyone? Why not just sending patches and commits to other custom roms and use those, or join them?
Fedroid said:
Here a beta tester for you. I own P8 Lite 2015 and I am using now other phone as a daily driver so I can do tests without problems and provide logcats.
Luck anyway
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He is speaking about P8 lite 2017 doesn't work on P8 lite 2015 (Alice)
lokalkey said:
He is speaking about P8 lite 2017 doesn't work on P8 lite 2015 (Alice)
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The ROM will support officially both devices(2015 and 2017 editions) with their latest source codes and patches.
Also, the ROM will be based on AOSP Oreo.
Regards,
D1stRU3T0R said:
My only question is.... Why? Aren't here already 10+ roms, 100+ garbage custom ones with 0 support? Why you need to make 1 more? How will this help us or anyone? Why not just sending patches and commits to other custom roms and use those, or join them?
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were not making a custom rom specifically for this phone, nor specifically for you hun. so if you have something to complain about, make your own rom
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were not making a custom rom specifically for this phone, nor specifically for you hun. so if you have something to complain about, make your own rom
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I'm not talking about these phones, or "my" custom preferences lol. I just asked some questions, and from this respond i see that it will be, hopefully not, another fail custom build based on x rom with minor changes, and than abandoned in some weeks. Check esposito os (or how it's called, seen it from dark.... fck i forgot the names xd).
If you can't take critics don't respond, please.
D1stRU3T0R said:
I'm not talking about these phones, or "my" custom preferences lol. I just asked some questions, and from this respond i see that it will be, hopefully not, another fail custom build based on x rom with minor changes, and than abandoned in some weeks. Check esposito os (or how it's called, seen it from dark.... fck i forgot the names xd).
If you can't take critics don't respond, please.
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I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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No, i was talking to look at esposito os, abandoned or rarely used/updated.
If you make an OS based on x rom and you weekly sync it, that would be good.
I can be tester,no using p8 lite as daily driver
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He is speaking about P8 lite 2017 doesn't work on P8 lite 2015 (Alice)
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Read better before answering please
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Read better before answering please
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he edited his post after my reply
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I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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If u have some problems you can tell me all in pm somewhere. I am not doing my own custom rom for you.
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No, i was talking to look at esposito os, abandoned or rarely used/updated.
If you make an OS based on x rom and you weekly sync it, that would be good.
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Yeah man, I am rebasing all stuff, for now it s just a lineageos so I m hard working on my desktop instead of porting alpha stuff on github.
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I could give details, but since it's personal I'm just gonna say that I don't trust the person who made EspositoOS for multiple reasons.
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if you think it's personal why you keep asking us helps via telegram then? it's not mature eh.
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if you think it's personal why you keep asking us helps via telegram then? it's not mature eh.
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Okay. You want a public explosion? Here's a public explosion.
First of all, the beef isn't with you, so you should've stayed quiet because it has nothing to do whatsoever. Until now.
You are a great dev, and you did indeed help me a lot when I was a begginer in Kirin development, but that was a month ago when I didn't know anything. And as much as you help and as much as I like your work, you need to make up your mind. May I ask how many times have you left Kirin development then came back? Is that how it works for you? Why can't you try and develop for both of your devices? You also claimed you got DU Oreo working with everything except til, why didn't you publish a beta? And why did you delete most of your sources? You do realize that kernel sources need to be availible publicly for roms to stay on XDA right?
As for the other guy I asked him ONCE for help, and he didn't even reply, so I can't say he helped, I still figured it out on my own. But that guy that you trust so much and protect like he's your son, is the same guy who dmd me a few weeks ago asking me to build lineage for him to publish on XDA.
So stop. Both of you aren't powerful and mighty, and neither am I. This has nothing to do with you, it's between me and the other guy (who asked me to dm him on telegram then blocked me lol), not between you and me. The fact that he even asked you for your help just shows he needs his buddies to go and step up for him because he can't do it himself.
Was this supposed to be a public beef? No. But it seems like it's what you wanted, so here's a favor for you.
P.S how the living hell is it immature to ask for help when you don't know something?
This is all that I am going to say, and I have no more ****s to give about this. I like who I like and don't who I don't. I don't like the other guy, so what?
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No, i was talking to look at esposito os, abandoned or rarely used/updated.
If you make an OS based on x rom and you weekly sync it, that would be good.
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We will work on keeping it updated, don't worry. We don't promise weekly updates, but maybe monthly (ish) might happen
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Okay. You want a public explosion? Here's a public explosion.
First of all, the beef isn't with you, so you should've stayed quiet because it has nothing to do whatsoever. Until now.
You are a great dev, and you did indeed help me a lot when I was a begginer in Kirin development, but that was a month ago when I didn't know anything. And as much as you help and as much as I like your work, you need to make up your mind. May I ask how many times have you left Kirin development then came back? Is that how it works for you? Why can't you try and develop for both of your devices? You also claimed you got DU Oreo working with everything except til, why didn't you publish a beta? And why did you delete most of your sources? You do realize that kernel sources need to be availible publicly for roms to stay on XDA right?
As for the other guy I asked him ONCE for help, and he didn't even reply, so I can't say he helped, I still figured it out on my own. But that guy that you trust so much and protect like he's your son, is the same guy who dmd me a few weeks ago asking me to build lineage for him to publish on XDA.
So stop. Both of you aren't powerful and mighty, and neither am I. This has nothing to do with you, it's between me and the other guy (who asked me to dm him on telegram then blocked me lol), not between you and me. The fact that he even asked you for your help just shows he needs his buddies to go and step up for him because he can't do it himself.
Was this supposed to be a public beef? No. But it seems like it's what you wanted, so here's a favor for you.
This is all that I am going to say, and I have no more ****s to give about this. I like who I like and don't who I don't. I don't like the other guy, so what?
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I didn't say that I'm working on DU Oreo, where you hear that? secondly I'm working on a SD821 that already port treble on LePro3 as my second project after P8L2017 if you want I can port it here, but it wasted time. thirdly I won't be part of ****ty "public discussions" since don't have time for it. At least I didn't "block" you, so be mature and move on.
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We will work on keeping it updated, don't worry. We don't promise weekly updates, but maybe monthly (ish) might happen
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I don' t care about your opinion. I will make this OS, i m just alone and I need help and time.
You ll se what happen asap on EspositoOS.
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I don' t care about your opinion. I will make this OS, I m just alone, you and your friend that is giving you thanks every time you talk s**t to me can do what os you wnat with a big stuff. i m just alone and I need help and time.
You ll se what happen asap on EspositoOS.
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I have some of my personal points to say:
1. This is not the place for fights here. If you all fight like some children, well find another place since this is not the good one.
2. Everybody has the right to a opinion and if we think your ROM is crappy this is how it's going to be. In life you won't find anywhere happy guys which will like everything.
3. You should't complain at all since ~1 hour ago you came into our pubilc AOSDP group and started begging my team members to get you in our team. Didn't you say you don't have any time to work even on your ROM? Then why you want to work on another one?
And last, 4. If I was developing EspositoOS I would've considered the AOSDP a threat and not a place to beg team members to get you in the team.
Do not continue your fights here, this is a announcement thread and not a fight club.
Thanks for understanding,
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
Same feeling here..!
Yes,.. well said,
Need support for Official TWRP. need adb sideload feature.
Please developers and maintainers, consider lineage 16.0 and omni rom, these two are major famous os distro, but not maintained for our device.
All the points are true and devs should at least try to fix the recovery. I remember once my old device had a problem with Cwm when reboot to recovery was performed the phone bootlooped so a stable recovery is a basic need for development.
Also now a days devs seem to make telegram groups and post their work there by giving reason that xda has a lot of rules, the rules are for everyone's good and if you find a rule which should be changed or modified ask the community they'll help.
On xda devs get to show their skills in front of an open audience instead of a closed group. It's like driving on a empty track vs driving in a formula league. The league has more rules than no rules empty track but one can outshine only in a league.
So try to support the xda community and also have great time. Happy developing.
navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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Very thoughtful! Resonate the same things brother.
Most annoying - 'Bugs - you tell me' when they are crawling around about to eat your eyes out!!
Oh and the spammers - next level entitlement for free stuff.
Note - Same as OP and with all due to respect to devs/contributors.
Can we request the developer community to focus on quality and not on quantity, found more than 20 roms, but not one which can maybe support OTA and be used as a daily driver for non flashoholic community?
Ie flash once (or dirty flash forever) and forget type of use cases, we had during resurrection remix days.
Other than that I completely agree with the opening comment of the thread.
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Due to the insane quantity we find similar bugs on different roms, that's kinda futile..
Not one is working on lineage 16 i absolutely don't understand why.
I just bought a new ZF MPM1 and roaming around the forms ,i feel like you are absolutely right!
navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
saurabh1234 said:
bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
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first of all i thank my dear X00TD's ROM developers for the quick and active development.,
Bro,
we are not pesking developers to add this thing and that thing. we are requesting necessary thing that needed for stable development. every month we are getting new rom project or port rom. but nothing is different.
I am custom rom user since samsung galaxy pop( galaxy mini). previously every community build the cwm recovery (project closed) and make it stable and make it compatible with all the roms. and parallely start developing CyanogenMod (now lineage). then otherr rom developers are uses cyanogenmods sources to build their own custom rom.
firstly,
stable recovery needed. our twrp is still in beta stage.
and still in unofficial release. the following problems i faced, adb sideload, otg support not stable, aroma also not working.
secondly,
lineage os is traditional one and best aftermarket os. and the root for the many custom roms. but we are not concentrating on this os.
nxp amplifier not yet fully supported for current release of pie custom roms. i dont know what is the problem behind this issue. but none of the thread mentioned about it. may be asus not released source for it(idk).
anyone can build rom and fix bugs and release here. sorry to say, most of us don't know this android custom rom development.
and telegram groups are not worth. mostly some guys talking off topics. and i mostly ignore if unread msg is more than 500( mostly it goes above 1000 per day). so i miss what developers told and published news.
anyone,
please make a thread to how to take a logs, because most of us dont know how to take logs.
please make a index thread for list roms and kernel and about their present bugs, last release, current development status.
please make a single thread for noob guide/new user, and mention all the common problems and its solutions,
please make a thread for common bugs in roms and kernels and talk there for what we need to do solve this bugs.
if possible, update possible reason for the bugs
sorry i dont know english much. ya i know did more grammer mistakes.
i'm really sorry if i hurt anyone.
#OnlyRequesting
#NotDemanding
What else can you expect? Phone has been marketed as a mid-to lower middle tier device (price <$200/€180) i.e. it will not attract big (known / reputed) devs. phone was released in few countries so lower economic tier ppl in these countries will flock to this phone....natural to expect slovenly behaviour, rude attitudes in the community and lack of stability and direction of growth for the phone's rom development, since these ppl (students, mostly) have little knowledge of ethics, professionalism, and are likely to throw the device away for the next shiny fondleslab in the same price range within a year. Some devs are there, but the general populace they pander to is reckless, raging, mercurial youth with little respect for their work and little concern/care for whom they offend, so they can't stick to these guidelines as you speak of....after all they too hold some other work/profession as their main job and rom development is just an after-work thing....
Eat whats on table coz you aint paying ****.
I agree with what you said.
I've been longing for a stable Pie LineageOS or stable AOSP for months. But so far it's been no news.
well, it can't be helped
My actual plan was to just use the stock rom (since it was pure aosp, kinda), but since the pie version still buggy I have to use the custom version, which is pretty meh than my previous devices (xiaomi)