Hello,
I came from Mate 20 Pro and now I own S10+ but I'm thinking to make a change and buy an P30 Pro. I want to know how is the camera and the display (can you see the pixels)? I don't use RAW format only normal shoots (day and night). The S10+ camera is a joke on the night shoots but on daylight is excelent.
alexxutzu said:
Hello,
I came from Mate 20 Pro and now I own S10+ but I'm thinking to make a change and buy an P30 Pro. I want to know how is the camera and the display (can you see the pixels)? I don't use RAW format only normal shoots (day and night). The S10+ camera is a joke on the night shoots but on daylight is excelent.
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Camera is honestly a hit or miss. Some shots come out amazing... others look like they were taken on an android phone like 5 years ago. I am a professional photographer so I can pick up on many details quite well.
Have I ever used the 5x camera - nope, kinda gimmicky and only fun to show friends
Portrait mode has way too aggressive of a blurring with o k a y edge detection
Front facing camera is hit or miss with exposure and also more importantly focus and sharpness
Rear camera photos are a lot of time wayyy too sharp where it looks like you purposefully pumped the sharpness up in an editor.
Night time photography is amazing though, like actually really really amazing.
Camera is overall pretty meh though tbh
Display:
Nice colors, pretty accurate.
Pixel density is low, coming from a 2k device I will never choose a 1080p panel ever again.
Only thing keeping me on this phone is the battery life
Just do it. I missed the screen first couple of days then got used to it ... Camera, battery life, super fast charging even using car charger made my life easier. Even video recording, there is no 60 4k but zooming and night mode on this thing makes it unbeatable
Thank you for reply. I wait for other impressions.
dannyqanaah said:
Camera is honestly a hit or miss. Some shots come out amazing... others look like they were taken on an android phone like 5 years ago. I am a professional photographer so I can pick up on many details quite well.
Have I ever used the 5x camera - nope, kinda gimmicky and only fun to show friends
Portrait mode has way too aggressive of a blurring with o k a y edge detection
Front facing camera is hit or miss with exposure and also more importantly focus and sharpness
Rear camera photos are a lot of time wayyy too sharp where it looks like you purposefully pumped the sharpness up in an editor.
Night time photography is amazing though, like actually really really amazing.
Camera is overall pretty meh though tbh
Display:
Nice colors, pretty accurate.
Pixel density is low, coming from a 2k device I will never choose a 1080p panel ever again.
Only thing keeping me on this phone is the battery life
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I agree in most parts!
I don't think that worth change a S10+ for a P30 PRO, for me they are equivalents.
dannyqanaah said:
Camera is honestly a hit or miss. Some shots come out amazing... others look like they were taken on an android phone like 5 years ago. I am a professional photographer so I can pick up on many details quite well.
Have I ever used the 5x camera - nope, kinda gimmicky and only fun to show friends
Portrait mode has way too aggressive of a blurring with o k a y edge detection
Front facing camera is hit or miss with exposure and also more importantly focus and sharpness
Rear camera photos are a lot of time wayyy too sharp where it looks like you purposefully pumped the sharpness up in an editor.
Night time photography is amazing though, like actually really really amazing.
Camera is overall pretty meh though tbh
Display:
Nice colors, pretty accurate.
Pixel density is low, coming from a 2k device I will never choose a 1080p panel ever again.
Only thing keeping me on this phone is the battery life
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I feel the same way ... After mate 10 pro i swear to myself would be iPhone or pixel only , than my provider came with and offer the P30 Pro cheap...i got and lemme Tell you .. is a great peace of hardware but seems that chinese companies cant code ... And software is almost everything nowadays!
i agree with danny....EMUI and screen resolution are the main downsides. My previous phone was the Samsung Note 9. Low resolution makes the finer details look pixelated.
Zoom and bokeh are pretty nice and useful (for me since i can take pic of notes from the blackboard from far away). Battery life is amazing. If only the P30 Pro has OneUI and a QHD screen, this phone would be perfect.
Thanks guys! For me the resolution is not a peoblem even my s10+ stays on full hd resolution. Also I like the EMUI it's not a big deal for me . My concerns are the low pixel density of the screen and the camera on daylight.
I just moved to the P30 Pro from an iPhone 6
I looked at both in teh store, read reviews, watch reviews and they both seem to be as good as each other depending on what the situation is
I went with teh P30 just to be a bit differenet
Cameras on both S10+ and P30 Pro are excellent, but I think Night Mode on Huawei is superior to Samsungs, although Sammy has improved it in last update. As for EMUI, well, it depends. It's kinda messy but once you tune some things here and there I think it's nice. At least I have no problem with it. It feels more responsive than Samsung's One UI (and previously TouchWiz). Super Charging is extremely helpful, I remember when I had Note9 it's fast charging was a joke, it was comparable to 2015 charging rate.
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Cameras on both S10+ and P30 Pro are excellent, but I think Night Mode on Huawei is superior to Samsungs, although Sammy has improved it in last update. As for EMUI, well, it depends. It's kinda messy but once you tune some things here and there I think it's nice. At least I have no problem with it. It feels more responsive than Samsung's One UI (and previously TouchWiz). Super Charging is extremely helpful, I remember when I had Note9 it's fast charging was a joke, it was comparable to 2015 charging rate.
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I compared S10+ Night mode with Mate 20 Pro Night mode and I tell you that S10+ Night mode it's a joke even with last update.
s10+ day shot is very good but its look like editing the color are not normal , night shot is not usable its not good charge is slow and battery life is bad the screen is perfect but because of battery life i was use it on FHD+ and if you buy it you will too , in QHD the battery life almost 4 H OST , the stereo sound is perfect .
the P30 pro i love this camera in day and night , very speed charge and a good battery life . the screen is good for me and the sound is high but not stereo , i change from s10+ to p30 pro because of battery life and heating over gaming , if you have any Question just ask man
Recently swapped to the p30pro from s10plus.
Things I really miss.
Great video recording
Excellent stereo speakers
Headphone jack
Screen
Ui.. A little
Ear piece speaker for phone calls.
Things to consider when buying a P30pro.
Tiny symmetrical notch.
Camera zoom... Obviously.
Battery life.
Bluetooth audio lag is worst on this phone.
Speaker sucks ass
Video recording is OK.
Cannot turn off EIS in video like you can on the s10plus... Annoying.
Weird ui.
You will need nova launcher prime
Still Camera is amazing.
ipmanwck said:
Recently swapped to the p30pro from s10plus.
Things I really miss.
Great video recording
Excellent stereo speakers
Headphone jack
Screen
Ui.. A little
Ear piece speaker for phone calls.
Things to consider when buying a P30pro.
Tiny symmetrical notch.
Camera zoom... Obviously.
Battery life.
Bluetooth audio lag is worst on this phone.
Speaker sucks ass
Video recording is OK.
Cannot turn off EIS in video like you can on the s10plus... Annoying.
Weird ui.
You will need nova launcher prime
Still Camera is amazing.
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How does the battery life compare
Hazzay88 said:
How does the battery life compare
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P30 Pro = 2 days between charges, almost unknown with moment smartphones of any brand
dezborders said:
P30 Pro = 2 days between charges, almost unknown with moment smartphones of any brand
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Is the battery life better than your S10+
Hazzay88 said:
Is the battery life better than your S10+
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Yeah, it's a lot better than the S10+
gnasher666 said:
Yeah, it's a lot better than the S10+
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That is good to hear
I went from S9+ to P30 Pro and I am really satisfied so far.
Battery life is way better.
Screen is less sharp, but also less warm-leaning then Samsung with its orange tint (which may actually more accurate but doesn't look as good subjectively). I cannot distinguish single pixels
Camera is indeed a hit-or-miss that also was the case on my Samsung. The photos that do come out better are incredible and low light performance just obliterates. the S9+. In my opinion all modern flagships are good enough when lighting conditions are easy, but low light is where it matters. Macro is amazing but arguably a bit gimmicky, Zoom is a nice addition on vacations.
S10 has better screen, better UI, better support for Samsung peripherals like 360° cam and Smartwatches, can easily be rooted and flashed. Also gaming performance is better if you are into emulating Wii and PSP games.
I had an S10+ and broke it recently. I decided to get a P30 Pro dual sim and have no regrets. Aurora blue is an awesome looking phone!! I don't notice the screen resolution all that much, I don't play games so I don't need high res. The battery is a lot better on this phone. Went golfing this weekend and left phone in car, after 5 hours battery dropped 2%, my S10+ would have dropped at least 10-15%. One thing I really miss is Smart Lock. I can't find an equivalent on the P30. I think the camera is just as good as my S10+. Still not convinced on the USB headphones. I know the first trip on a plane I go on and watch a movie without being able to charge my phone while I have the headset on will probably bug me. Might have to use Bluetooth from now on. Also, what's with the Nano memory. You can't buy them anywhere other than Amazon. I ordered one but it said two weeks delivery. I hate proprietary devices!! Under screen fingerprint is the same on both phones, sometimes it works well, other times it fails. After using the P30 Pro over the weekend I think they are comparable phones and the P30 Pro was a LOT cheaper than the S10+. Bought the S10+ off Samsung site for $1700 CDN and the P30 Pro was $1199 CDN off Amazon.
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Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
iamwyim said:
I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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IT depends on the country where you live, but in most places you can get a Sony Xperia xz1 or honor v10 for the same price. Both with better standby battery life and unlockable bootloaders. The cameras of those phones are also a bit better.
Everything is great here , even the camera if you use google camera you will get very nice pictures , but the only thing i dont like on this device is the design, I like the new screen aspect ratio
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
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To be honest, the camera is not as good as the flagship phone available in nowadays (or even at the time it released). The noise on the photo is visible at night time (sometimes even in day time). I can only say that the camera is just about average compare with the mid-tier phone.
The battery life is okay to me, but I always turn on the battery saved mode and turn off the Glance.
I hope this answers might help you to make up your decision.
I bought mine a few weeks ago and have been loving it since. I came froma Moto Z Play so I had a lot to consider before buying. First, battery life, no Snapdragon 8xx can come close to the Snapdragon 6xx series. And also stock Android experience is the best experience for me. So I'm left with Honor View 10, Nokia 8, or wait for Nokia 7 Plus.
Nokia 7 Plus will have a great battery life nut has gorilla glass 3 and no OIS.
Honor View 10 has better camera and battery life but has EMUI and a Kirin processor (even though it's a at Snapdragon 8xx level). However it does support project Treble, so if you wanna root around it should be easier.
The Nokia 8, which is good but has subpar camera and subpar battery life. But considering how small the battery is and how powerful the processor is, it does have a better battery life but would've been better if Nokia added more. And camera is fine at least better than my previous phone as I just needed some decent photo. Google Pixel camera app made it waaaaaayyyyy better.
I hope it helps you decide.
I find the battery life superb, most days i have over 70% left with moderate use or 40%'ish with heavy use without WiFi using data only.
Here in Chile it's price is way affordable than other flagships from Samsung, Sony, Motorola, LG, etc. So, having that in consideration, plus it's hardware and software is the best deal for what you get.
Battery life is great
Screen quality and brightness in sunlight also great
Sound i find it really good
Camera is good too, maybe it isn't way good at night as other flagships with lower apertures, but it gives really decent pictures. Video is good also, very good quality and stabilization is decent enough. And it's surround recording sistem is really nice.
So hardware wise is one of the best options you can get here for it's price. It's a Nokia so you would expect a sturdy phone, almost unbreakable lol.
In software you get the latest updates really quickly.
Maybe it doesn't have unlockable bootloader easily as other phones with Snapdragon SoCs, but having cutting edge updates almost same as Google pixel devices I would say maybe it's not necessary to have much development. Things I've noticed over the years is that most developments that triumphs are those that make ROMs as stock as possible.
So if you like stock Android go for it I don't thing you'll get disappointed. But if you are a camera maniatic , maybe you should consider some other device
Hi there I want to know is it worth buying compared to the huawei p10?
Billabomb75 said:
Hi there I want to know is it worth buying compared to the huawei p10?
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The Nokia 8 is a pretty decent all rounder phone. Probably the only downside to the P10 is the camera quality. Decent sensor but post processing and camera software was lacking. The auto focus isn't that reliable and low light performance will suffer. And the camera software lacked Pro mode which the P10 should have currently. And the camera app was buggy from time yo time. But HMD is going to update the camera framework and bringing Pro mode to the 8. So probably you may see some improvements by then.
Don't get me wrong. The camera is good for what it is. I got really decent shots in bright lighting conditions. Only the camera software isn't really that reliable.
I did compare my phone side by side with a Huawei P9(Bright light conditions). Apart from the post processing issues on the Nokia 8, I found the camera looked abit better compared to the P9(Not sure about the P10 though).
I'm speaking this from my own experience owning the phone for a few months. I take a lot of photos with my phone, so the camera was one important aspect to me along with battery life and performance. Battery life is what you'll usually get for something around 3000mAH. I got around 4-6 hour screen on time from a full charge. But the phone can last you the whole day. Snapdragon 835 too. So performance overall was good.
If you want something with better battery life for the similar amount of price, go for the Huawei Mate 10 instead since that has a 4000mAH battery.
Software updates so far has been consistent. Got security updates every month and its confirmed to get Android P. Hopefully they'll keep it that way until the phone reaches the end of its life.
Overall, I'm quite happy with my phone. So definitely worth checking it out. Especially if you prefer something with near stock Android too.
Germ2501 said:
The Nokia 8 is a pretty decent all rounder phone. Probably the only downside to the P10 is the camera quality. Decent sensor but post processing and camera software was lacking. The auto focus isn't that reliable and low light performance will suffer. And the camera software lacked Pro mode which the P10 should have currently. And the camera app was buggy from time yo time. But HMD is going to update the camera framework and bringing Pro mode to the 8. So probably you may see some improvements by then.
Don't get me wrong. The camera is good for what it is. I got really decent shots in bright lighting conditions. Only the camera software isn't really that reliable.
I did compare my phone side by side with a Huawei P9(Bright light conditions). Apart from the post processing issues on the Nokia 8, I found the camera looked abit better compared to the P9(Not sure about the P10 though).
I'm speaking this from my own experience owning the phone for a few months. I take a lot of photos with my phone, so the camera was one important aspect to me along with battery life and performance. Battery life is what you'll usually get for something around 3000mAH. I got around 4-6 hour screen on time from a full charge. But the phone can last you the whole day. Snapdragon 835 too. So performance overall was good.
If you want something with better battery life for the similar amount of price, go for the Huawei Mate 10 instead since that has a 4000mAH battery.
Software updates so far has been consistent. Got security updates every month and its confirmed to get Android P. Hopefully they'll keep it that way until the phone reaches the end of its life.
Overall, I'm quite happy with my phone. So definitely worth checking it out. Especially if you prefer something with near stock Android too.
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Thanks for replying I'm on a contract and sadly the isp doesnt have the huawei mate 10 cause I looked at that aswell but the camera im not to worry about as long as I can take photos its fine.
Billabomb75 said:
Hi there I want to know is it worth buying compared to the huawei p10?
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Huawei p10 supports bootloader unlock, so you can root the Huawei.
Nokia does not.
Used to be a sony fan and thinking of making the switch.
Mainly due to the quicker update cycle. I'd be missing shooting raw and I don't know how battery life measures up.
What do you guys think, what would I be fsjnibgg and what would I be trading?
Thanks
The ROM is unexceptional. Quite a few Pie features missing and little customisability.
The camera is mediocre.
The battery life is excellent.
The screen is amazing.
The housing is extremely slippery. Wet block of soap slippery.
I'm starting to really like it now that I've rooted it with Magisk and installed a few tweaks (battery life seems even better with the LKT module).
evak2979 said:
Used to be a sony fan and thinking of making the switch.
Mainly due to the quicker update cycle. I'd be missing shooting raw and I don't know how battery life measures up.
What do you guys think, what would I be fsjnibgg and what would I be trading?
Thanks
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I can only recommend the XZ3. Great phone.
And it's not true - the camera is outstanding. All the real life reviews confirm that.
Thank you
I am really thinking about it.
A contract with vodafone UK for 41/month which includes 32 GB of data, Spotify and a 9 pound up front cost sounds very good on this device.
The sim only alternative (with 25 gbs) is 25/month. Which means the device cost over two years would be around 380ish.
I may try getting it today - anything you guys disliked other than the fingerprint placement?
In general I really like the phone
Pros:
- amazing screen
- nice design
- fast and snappy
- almost stock Android
- improved camera and camera interface
- feels premium
- fast updates
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Cons:
- only 4GB RAM which is insufficient
- occasional lags or freezes in launcher
- very limited new Android Pie additions
- no headphone jack
- grainy photos when shooting indoors
- pre-installed bloatware without option to uninstall (especially Facebook)
- side sense is a sick joke (disable immediately if you don;t want to smash the phone into the wall after 10 minutes of usage)
- annoying blue artefacts where screen curves
- lack of accidental touches sensing causing screen to randomly stop responding
- way overpriced considering competition
- no quick charger in the box (UK at least)
- super slippery so you'll have to slap a case ASAP
Sensination said:
In general I really like the phone
Pros:
- amazing screen
- nice design
- fast and snappy
- almost stock Android
- improved camera and camera interface
- feels premium
- fast updates
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Cons:
- only 4GB RAM which is insufficient
- occasional lags or freezes in launcher
- very limited new Android Pie additions
- no headphone jack
- grainy photos when shooting indoors
- pre-installed bloatware without option to uninstall (especially Facebook)
- side sense is a sick joke (disable immediately if you don;t want to smash the phone into the wall after 10 minutes of usage)
- annoying blue artefacts where screen curves
- lack of accidental touches sensing causing screen to randomly stop responding
- way overpriced considering competition
- no quick charger in the box (UK at least)
- super slippery so you'll have to slap a case ASAP
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Super helpful list. Thank you my friend !!!
Wait for the XZ4.
Sony phones are amazing with great performance and personality
mufunyo said:
The ROM is unexceptional. Quite a few Pie features missing and little customisability.
The camera is mediocre.
The battery life is excellent.
The screen is amazing.
The housing is extremely slippery. Wet block of soap slippery.
I'm starting to really like it now that I've rooted it with Magisk and installed a few tweaks (battery life seems even better with the LKT module).
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The camera is excellent both front and back.... check your eyes dude!
Nidhal AKA the king said:
The camera is excellent both front and back.... check your eyes dude!
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Depends on your definition of excellent. It's the exact same sensor module as found on the XZ1 which is over a year old. Not quite flagship for a company that is the worldwide market leader in camera sensor design and production. I'm also pretty sure the triple camera setup on the P20 pro outperforms the XZ3's outdated single 18MP camera. So given the context, mediocre is the right word.
mufunyo said:
Depends on your definition of excellent. It's the exact same sensor module as found on the XZ1 which is over a year old. Not quite flagship for a company that is the worldwide market leader in camera sensor design and production. I'm also pretty sure the triple camera setup on the P20 pro outperforms the XZ3's outdated single 18MP camera. So given the context, mediocre is the right word.
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Yes, camera is not that good like on XZ2 Premium or Huawei P20 Pro, but definitely much better then on XZ Premium and XZ1. Let's say at daylight Sony camera is better and on lowlight Huawei camera is better (my opinion because of colours on photos). RAM is higher on P20 Pro. And no gestures on Android 9 if it is important. Everything else is better. Sound, screen, speed, build quality (back glass on Huawei P20 Pro is a jake; it is stratched after 10 days of use without any case).
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Yes, camera is not that good like on XZ2 Premium or Huawei P20 Pro, but definitely much better then on XZ Premium and XZ1. Let's say at daylight Sony camera is better and on lowlight Huawei camera is better (my opinion because of colours on photos). RAM is higher on P20 Pro. And no gestures on Android 9 if it is important. Everything else is better. Sound, screen, speed, build quality (back glass on Huawei P20 Pro is a jake; it is stratched after 10 days of use without any case).
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Compared with my wife P20 Pro - same results indoor with natural lightning. Did not tested yet on low light.
tomo100brt said:
Yes, camera is not that good like on XZ2 Premium or Huawei P20 Pro, but definitely much better then on XZ Premium and XZ1. Let's say at daylight Sony camera is better and on lowlight Huawei camera is better (my opinion because of colours on photos). RAM is higher on P20 Pro. And no gestures on Android 9 if it is important. Everything else is better. Sound, screen, speed, build quality (back glass on Huawei P20 Pro is a jake; it is stratched after 10 days of use without any case).
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Xz2 beats p20 pro so how is that lol and its also prooven
You will miss 4000 mAh battery from P20 Pro. You will also miss the camera, P20 Pro has better post processing (not as noisy photos), much better in low light and RAW-support.
XZ3 has only 4 GB RAM, not sufficient in a 2018 flagship phone. Huawei used 6 GB in their 2016 flagship phones.
You can not use XZ3 without case. It’s like a soap in your hand and glass back scratches easily.
Otherwise it’s Sony’s best phone yet, not bad at all, but not on the same level as other flagship phones.
Personally the only two things that made me decide against the P20/Mate 20 were my dislike for EMUI and the fact that Huawei discontinued their boot loader unlocking service last summer. Sony's ROM is much closer to AOSP and if you want root you can easily unlock it.
Just got my P30 Pro today. Upgrading from a Mate 20 Pro.
The front facing camera is terrible. It's incredibly soft and it's impossible to change things for the better. I'm wondering if I've got a faulty unit as the photos from most review sites don't show blurry soft selfies.
Can anyone comment first hand on this?
Many thanks.
ShiroEd said:
Just got my P30 Pro today. Upgrading from a Mate 20 Pro.
The front facing camera is terrible. It's incredibly soft and it's impossible to change things for the better. I'm wondering if I've got a faulty unit as the photos from most review sites don't show blurry soft selfies.
Can anyone comment first hand on this?
Many thanks.
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Can't comment first hand but that evaluation would seem to disagree with almost all the reviews.
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I am one of those users who would never mind to have no front camera, but then I realize couple times a month I use hangouts video with a friend, so for me it makes no difference what sensor is there, I would be fine with crappy 720p camera, but I tested couple selfie shots when I got my p30p, and I find it quite the opposite - very sharp, detailed, maybe a bit brighter than I would expect but not soft. For me a soft photo is a photo that lacks sharpness, this is not definitely not the case. And when I turn off the "beautify" sliders it really turns them off, this was the single worst thing on Samsung phones since S6. No matter what, selfie photos taken with samsung camera app always came out horrible for me, had to use 3rd party apps.
If you don't like the output out of huawei camera app try something else, everybody has different demands and expectations. Sensor-wise the front camera seems to be very good, and app wise the huawei camera app is very decent in my opinion.
Have you got firmware 124 yet? I am on 113, but I know that 124 is rolling out and has tons of fixes, which includes the camera. I have another P30 PRo arriving Tuesday, and that will have 124 out of the box. There is absolutely no point noting any bugs until on 124.
gavinfabl said:
Have you got firmware 124 yet? I am on 113, but I know that 124 is rolling out and has tons of fixes, which includes the camera. I have another P30 PRo arriving Tuesday, and that will have 124 out of the box. There is absolutely no point noting any bugs until on 124.
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Ok. Good to know. Might try and force the update with HiSuite.
Thanks.
Hello,
i'm on the newest FW .124 but still, the quality of the selfie camera is pretty terrible. Also the back cameras comparing to my P20 Pro are super soft. Don't know if it's software or hardware issue.
This is quite worrying.
I'm unsure what to expect now. Many reviews say categorically that it's better than P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro but a few of us are seeing something different.
lelenc said:
Hello,
i'm on the newest FW .124 but still, the quality of the selfie camera is pretty terrible. Also the back cameras comparing to my P20 Pro are super soft. Don't know if it's software or hardware issue.
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I have 124 update and I think the front camera quality is amazing. I took many selfies and video samples today and zoomed in and the clarity and detail is impressive. Remember there is no auto focus so the sweet spot for crisp shots is 50-60cm which is literally arms length.
ShiroEd said:
This is quite worrying.
I'm unsure what to expect now. Many reviews say categorically that it's better than P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro but a few of us are seeing something different.
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Maybe it's just your specific device??
I'd say, the quality of the front (and not only the front) camera is quite random.
Well in my case the front camera quality is amazing way too detailed can point out all the random grey hair popping off my skull
The selfie camera for me definitely looks better than my s10 plus.
trapcoder666 said:
The selfie camera for me definitely looks better than my s10 plus.
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In my opinion all the actual cameras are ok but its the terrible over processed end results from the software that we cant change that is the BIG problem with the P30 pro.
The only way to get a decent and natural non over processed image from the P30 pro is to shoot Raw(DNG) but for me if i want to mess around with raw I will use my camera.. NOT a phone.
I'm actually finding the front camera to be a lot better than my s10plus which I sealed from. I was pleased to discover.
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The selfie camera for me definitely looks better than my s10 plus.
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Defo agree... I swapped for cameras. I am missing the screen and the speakers of the s10plus though..
Agreed, the Front Facing Camera is not good enough... Pixel 2 do it better.. in details and more...
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Just got my P30 Pro today. Upgrading from a Mate 20 Pro.
The front facing camera is terrible. It's incredibly soft and it's impossible to change things for the better. I'm wondering if I've got a faulty unit as the photos from most review sites don't show blurry soft selfies.
Can anyone comment first hand on this?
Many thanks.
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Front camerA NO PROBLEME HERE!
I think there are 2 different problems at play here:
1: for the ppl saying its great for you -Congrats- you've done well to upgrade to the P30 Pro and it's relatively better front camera vs your old device.
2: The people complaining about blurry front camera are CORRECT, especially if you're coming from a P20 Pro or a Mate 20 Pro, objectively speaking - there is no comparison in general use, P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro will win almost every single shot.
Evidence: I have both the previous 20 series flagships (mentioned) - I noticed each shot on the P30's front cam was useless in comparison, blurry, very low resolved detail, with dark shadows under the eyes overly accentuated (whether you have dark circles or not, they will be over emphasised vs the 2 mentioned devices) which = the perfect recipe for an underwhelming shot every single time.
I went back twice to swap my P30 Pro for a new one at the store within the first 14 days.
Result = No change. Same level of Blur in your normal use case selfies.
The scientific analysis of the issue:
The problem is a fixed focus, which is no problem at all if the range is correct, but in this case it isn't.
- you can test it yourselves, hold your phone 1ft from your face and take a pic, then 1.5ft - 2 ft and so on, you will start to realise that the focus has been tuned to an arms length - a shot which 90% of the time you will not be taking - unless you WANT the world to see that you are taking a selfie.
Is there a benefit of this?
-Of course there is, this captures far better background detail when compared to other phones (P20 Pro & Mate 20 Pro in this case). However, this is a double edged sword, since 99% of the time in a selfie, you want the subject -yourself- to be prioritised over all else in this type of shot.
-It seems this tuning has been done to favour group selfie shots, since the distance required for a group shot is a full arms length - so this is most likely the reason for the prioritised focal range.
But make no mistake, anything closer than an arms length, the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and even the Iphone XS Max is far sharper(just tested during this writeup). For full arm length selfies shots, group selfies and background detail the P30 Pro is sharper (in the distance rather than on the subject).
So there you have it, objective, repeatable shots which you can try yourself.
Get at me with your comments. P.s. Let's not talk about software updates as I'm on 9.1.0.193 (4 months in from the release).
RoleX1 said:
I think there are 2 different problems at play here:
1: for the ppl saying its great for you -Congrats- you've done well to upgrade to the P30 Pro and it's relatively better front camera vs your old device.
2: The people complaining about blurry front camera are CORRECT, especially if you're coming from a P20 Pro or a Mate 20 Pro, objectively speaking - there is no comparison in general use, P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro will win almost every single shot.
Evidence: I have both the previous 20 series flagships (mentioned) - I noticed each shot on the P30's front cam was useless in comparison, blurry, very low resolved detail, with dark shadows under the eyes overly accentuated (whether you have dark circles or not, they will be over emphasised vs the 2 mentioned devices) which = the perfect recipe for an underwhelming shot every single time.
I went back twice to swap my P30 Pro for a new one at the store within the first 14 days.
Result = No change. Same level of Blur in your normal use case selfies.
The scientific analysis of the issue:
The problem is a fixed focus, which is no problem at all if the range is correct, but in this case it isn't.
- you can test it yourselves, hold your phone 1ft from your face and take a pic, then 1.5ft - 2 ft and so on, you will start to realise that the focus has been tuned to an arms length - a shot which 90% of the time you will not be taking - unless you WANT the world to see that you are taking a selfie.
Is there a benefit of this?
-Of course there is, this captures far better background detail when compared to other phones (P20 Pro & Mate 20 Pro in this case). However, this is a double edged sword, since 99% of the time in a selfie, you want the subject -yourself- to be prioritised over all else in this type of shot.
-It seems this tuning has been done to favour group selfie shots, since the distance required for a group shot is a full arms length - so this is most likely the reason for the prioritised focal range.
But make no mistake, anything closer than an arms length, the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and even the Iphone XS Max is far sharper(just tested during this writeup). For full arm length selfies shots, group selfies and background detail the P30 Pro is sharper (in the distance rather than on the subject).
So there you have it, objective, repeatable shots which you can try yourself.
Get at me with your comments. P.s. Let's not talk about software updates as I'm on 9.1.0.193 (4 months in from the release).
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Came to the same conclusion months ago, arms length or nothing. Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it as I've probably took no more than 3 selfies since I've had the phone.
The front camera is pretty bad. Image wise you do need to hold the phone a certain distance to get a good image.
Those saying it's better than the s10 plus I have no idea how they can say that. Selfie camera is pretty much the only thing that Samsung smashes Huawei in.
The bigger issue I have is that it can take up to 5 seconds between pushing the shutter and the picture being taken.
Only happens with the selfie cam and it's because of software updates as this was never a problem on day one.
But yeah selfie cam on the p30 is weak. Very much so. It's up to you if the rest of the device makes up for it which for me it does
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Came to the same conclusion months ago, arms length or nothing. Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it as I've probably took no more than 3 selfies since I've had the phone.
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Exactly, so in this respect the phone failed majorly - we now have a device that we won't use to capture ourselves, personal memories- something that's a crucial reason to buy a newer phone in the first place. (I'm still carrying and running a 20 series device for this reason). Hugely annoying.
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The front camera is pretty bad. Image wise you do need to hold the phone a certain distance to get a good image.
Those saying it's better than the s10 plus I have no idea how they can say that. Selfie camera is pretty much the only thing that Samsung smashes Huawei in.
The bigger issue I have is that it can take up to 5 seconds between pushing the shutter and the picture being taken.
Only happens with the selfie cam and it's because of software updates as this was never a problem on day one.
But yeah selfie cam on the p30 is weak. Very much so. It's up to you if the rest of the device makes up for it which for me it does
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Most of the time this delay is a sharpening and processing - this usually makes the photo far better so that's not a problem as such, but this delay still does very little for the front camera when compared to the previous 20 series devices.
All in all - the front camera doesn't deserve to be in the presence of the rest of the hardware - since overall the device is fool proof from all angles (hardware wise) and the front camera doesn't live up to this standard.
The minimum required (expected) competence of each component is that which objectively beats the previous generation product, and in this instance, 90% of the expected use of the front cam, this just isn't the case.
So, got my phone yesterday and wanted to test the camera out. The s21 ultra will cost me around 60USD per month so I want to be blown away when moving up from s9+. But, so far I have experienced a "meh" situation where of course, the image on the screen is good, the scrolling is fantastic with 120Hz and the stereo speakers are awesome. But the image quality when just firing up the camera app and not doing any setting is just "meh". I am not impressed so far. I took some photos in the house today. Mostly with normal settings auto but the one with the deers are with pro mode and the same settings. I checked all settings and alla iso(plus rest) parameters. Am I missing something? Or why am I not impressed going from s9+ to s21 ultra?
I have not tested 4k/60fps video yet but I am already thinking of returning the phone and waiting for a good second hand version. Uploading some pictures. Let me know if I should test in another way
Forgot to add that the left pictures are always s21 ultra
Started checking the tube for some comparison and I mean videos, the look really good. I think just perhaps shooting neutral and color correct will do a nice job
Return the Phone.
I u are not happy with it.
I am just wondering if it's me, the phone or something else that makes me feel that s9+ to 21 ultra is not a big leap. I am planning to use my gimbal with my phone to capture some nice b-roll movies but what I can see so far not much has happened to the images. I am afraid to use the new s21 to much as I am thinking of returning it but I really want it to be a good buy, but already after 1 day I am thinking of a return. Perhaps I was expecting VHS to bluray difference but cameras are already so good that it's hard to make giant leaps.
It's not a big leap in terms of camera. Personally I regret not returning it in time. Now I am stuck with it and the main problem for me is the weight. I bought it thinking I was going to use this for years but now I can't stand the thought of holding this brick for so long. Also, the photos are not a huge step forward. There are instances where I see more details but also more noise. I find them to be noisy and videos blotchy in low light. I mean, the truth is, it's not worth the money. Also, pay attention to the photos you are taking with it, because the S21 Ultra has the HDR processing on, no matter if you turn it off or not. So, if you see any difference between your S9+ and S21, it's actually the HDR. The biggest problem of them all is the fact that I cannot find a good alternative to it. All of the other flagships are basically the same thing, most of them don't even have the 10x optical zoom. Cameras just cannot be better than they are now as long as they have tiny sensors. So if you do return it, you might want to hold off upgrading for some time.
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It's not a big leap in terms of camera. Personally I regret not returning it in time. Now I am stuck with it and the main problem for me is the weight. I bought it thinking I was going to use this for years but now I can't stand the thought of holding this brick for so long. Also, the photos are not a huge step forward. There are instances where I see more details but also more noise. I find them to be noisy and videos blotchy in low light. I mean, the truth is, it's not worth the money. Also, pay attention to the photos you are taking with it, because the S21 Ultra has the HDR processing on, no matter if you turn it off or not. So, if you see any difference between your S9+ and S21, it's actually the HDR. The biggest problem of them all is the fact that I cannot find a good alternative to it. All of the other flagships are basically the same thing, most of them don't even have the 10x optical zoom. Cameras just cannot be better than they are now as long as they have tiny sensors. So if you do return it, you might want to hold off upgrading for some time.
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Thanks, this is exactly what I was afraid of. I want to create some nice b-roll movies and I have a good gimbal for my phone. It feels like with a stable camera and normal daylight, there will be no difference. It's only if I want to do alot of lowlight or wide angle shots. It's just not worth the 60USD/month when I have an ok phone. I will wait for the s22 and see if it has some new power. According to the new qualcom the nextgen chip will wonders....but that is what every generation of phone says also, but when it comes to daily use I have not seen big leaps.
Tomorrow I will return the phone and sorry for all you s21u lovers, this one wasn't for me.
Thanks again @Randi03 for giving an open and honest view of the phone from a daily user
Glad to be of help. I also hope the next generations will bring something new and worth upgrading to... For me personally I will do my best to test them before buying and ignore all the hype from the manufacturers and the reviews.
A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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The snapdragon version is better than the Exynos because it gives good performance in all aspects. The camera quality is best compared to the Exynos version.
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A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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I did not set the camera to optimal settings. I wanted to try the s21ultra "out of the box". I tested some pictures on auto mode and when I switched to pro mode I made sure to at least use the same settings. Then of course we can discuss if the settings where optimal but this was not the point. 2 phones with same settings where one is a couple of generations behind should not have almost same quality pictures. And I cannot show you side-by-side the displays in preview mode but in some places I saw better preview of the image in the camera app on the s9+.
There is no doubt that the s21ultra is better, it is, but it's not 60USD/month better with my current phone
Well, I wanted to be wow-ed and really looke forward to the s21 ultra but yesterday I returned it. Waiting for the next generation but will really really check comparison videos before I decide anything
S22 is a note rather than an S
pixellegolas said:
I did not set the camera to optimal settings. I wanted to try the s21ultra "out of the box". I tested some pictures on auto mode and when I switched to pro mode I made sure to at least use the same settings. Then of course we can discuss if the settings where optimal but this was not the point. 2 phones with same settings where one is a couple of generations behind should not have almost same quality pictures. And I cannot show you side-by-side the displays in preview mode but in some places I saw better preview of the image in the camera app on the s9+.
There is no doubt that the s21ultra is better, it is, but it's not 60USD/month better with my current phone
Well, I wanted to be wow-ed and really looke forward to the s21 ultra but yesterday I returned it. Waiting for the next generation but will really really check comparison videos before I decide anything
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This is what I'm afraid of. I'm currently on note 10+, love it but I want better camera, by that I mean better crop ability. Gcam makes things better but I still hope those mpx do the diffrence in crop ability