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Dear users,
Considering all 3C apps are now based on the same source code, they all behave the same way, and will exhibit the same issues. Any queries will also likely applies to all apps.
To make my life easier while continuing to provide support here (and start with a clean slate), I decided to close all my app threads and open a fresh new thread here.
With your continuous help and support, the past 4 years have been a great adventure and experience. Let's take a fresh start and continue this amazing adventure.
Thank you all!
Hi,
I bought this app and gave it a try since it is the only one I found with REAL background data management capabilities. So, this is a great beginning, although the app is not completely useful to me. I was looking for an automatic background data toggle following WiFi status, I mean, turn on bg data when WiFi is on and turn it off at WiFi shutdown. I know this is just a manual toggle, but I was wondering if I can use the toggle along with any profiler (like Tasker, Setting Profiles, etc). This way, I could set up a rule that triggers on WiFi On/Off and changes bg data status using your widget. Unfortunately, this cannot be done as there is no 'activity' to be associated to under Multi Toggle activities node. So, my suggestion is that you expose any public activity to toggle bg data, so it can be used when setting up rules from any profiler. Of course you can also develop an app to auto turn on/off bg data on wifi on/off... ... a lot of people is waiting for that since bg data has sense when wifi is on in most of the cases. Otherwise, it will drain battery.
Another suggestion, please make an easy way to uninstall when installed as system app (restore to user app or something... just to avoid a manual removal from /system/app).
Thanks!
torete43 said:
Hi,
I was looking for an automatic background data toggle following WiFi status, I mean, turn on bg data when WiFi is on and turn it off at WiFi shutdown. I know this is just a manual toggle, but I was wondering if I can use the toggle along with any profiler (like Tasker, Setting Profiles, etc).
Another suggestion, please make an easy way to uninstall when installed as system app (restore to user app or something... just to avoid a manual removal from /system/app).
Thanks!
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Thanks for your comment and support.
I will try to add an 'uninstall' procedure... Indeed it will make it much easier for me too
For the public activity, I will see to it too, though I'm not sure it's really recommended, the power-widget has been doing that until 2.3.3 and it was reported as a security hole... Would be nice though.
Just wondering something about activities, in Tasker (or similar app) can you manually specify the package, the class and the parameters? If so, even if it's not public, you might be able to do it!
Don't have the info at hand, but will update this post asap.
I haven't downloaded this app yet, but I found it because it claims to control the background data toggle via a widget. Just to confirm that we're talking about "background data" and not just "auto-sync," correct? On my DROID 2 this option is: settings -> data manager -> data delivery -> Background data.
Any updates on reverting from the system application install? I need to be able to return this phone to pre-root status.
I've found that "auto-sync" only applies to google accounts: gmail, gmail contacts and google calendar on the DROID 2. My primary email is an IMAP account and I'd prefer not to receive these notifications (and ones from other aps) during the evening hours.
My phone also likes to stop syncing randomly, and toggling background data corrects the problem. Going through the maze of settings is just too annoying to be toggling this option on a regular basis.
Also, this thread belongs in the Paid Software Announcement and Discussion forums. By posting here you are gaining an unfair advantage!
_alphaBeta_ said:
I haven't downloaded this app yet, but I found it because it claims to control the background data toggle via a widget. Just to confirm that we're talking about "background data" and not just "auto-sync," correct? On my DROID 2 this option is: settings -> data manager -> data delivery -> Background data.
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Hello and thanks for your interest in this app.
Yes it indeed controls background data, you should see the corresponding setting being actually changed!
And yes it needs to be installed as system app for a number of toggles to work, which is only possible on rooted phones, which luckily is your case! System apps have more rights than user-apps and a number of settings cannot be changed by user apps at all no matter what! Even using su/root feature can't help!
Note that the app will do it for you from the settings. There is no automatic way to move the app back to a user app, yet.
What you can do is try the app for a few minutes to see if it works well for you. Should you have any issues don't hesitate to contact me. You have 15 minutes to try it or get an immediate refund from Google, but I can still cancel the order at any time which will get you a full refund.
PS: I noticed 2 behaviors when installing as system app, either the settings window disappears, then no reboot is necessary, the app is installed in system folder and ready for use. Or the app says it succeeded (or failed) and the settings windows remains open. In this case I noticed it's always installed as system app, but it requires rebooting the phone. Still working on that.
ftgg99 said:
Also, this thread belongs in the Paid Software Announcement and Discussion forums. By posting here you are gaining an unfair advantage!
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I didn't know about this forum I'm very sorry for this mistake! Any ways to move the thread there?
At the time of creation, I tried contacting a moderator, but not sure it's my browser/computer (tried with Chrome and IE) but could reach the page to find who's moderator.
Anyway, no excuses, will try to contact a moderator asap.
I tried to quickly change my original post thinking that you wouldn't respond so quickly. I spotted the screenshots that clearly show the option to install as a system app, which answered my question.
ccounotte said:
Note that the app will do it for you from the settings. There is no automatic way to move the app back to a user app, yet.
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Any idea when you will implement this? As my edited message above now says, I need the ability to return this phone to pre-root status. How difficult is manually uninstalling a system app like yours? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm only rooted for a specific un-related reason, so I haven't played around in the rooted world much.
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IAny idea when you will implement this? As my edited message above now says, I need the ability to return this phone to pre-root status. How difficult is manually uninstalling a system app like yours? Pardon my ignorance, but I'm only rooted for a specific un-related reason, so I haven't played around in the rooted world much.
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You know what? Just published an update that will do it!
Note it will require a reboot and all existing widgets must be replaced after!
Can you please report how it works for you?
Thanks!
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Can you please report how it works for you?
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Hi,
Gave it a whirl and it seemed to work. Unfortunately, I tried your new "uninstall from system" options and it wound up uninstalling the entire application from my DROID 2. I'll get it back on there when I have some more time to play with it. Just be aware that it does a little more than uninstalling from system.
Is this greyed out heading "(System) Toggles" supposed to stay greyed out once it's installed as a system application? The only indication that a system install was in effect was that the option to install as a system application now said uninstall.
You may want to leave some time for a user to grant su permissions when installing as a system application. I've seen this on other apps. It took a couple tries to be quick enough to allow your app permissions before it reported that it didn't have them.
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Hi,
Gave it a whirl and it seemed to work. Unfortunately, I tried your new "uninstall from system" options and it wound up uninstalling the entire application from my DROID 2. I'll get it back on there when I have some more time to play with it. Just be aware that it does a little more than uninstalling from system.
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Well, that's why I initially left this out, because uninstall from system is not as easy as installing to system! I'll try to improve it by moving the app back to user space instead, but then users might end-up with multiple installs... Quite tricky.
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Is this greyed out heading "(System) Toggles" supposed to stay greyed out once it's installed as a system application? The only indication that a system install was in effect was that the option to install as a system application now said uninstall.
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This is just informative as I want to make sure users understand how system (or power-widget-based) toggles do work (or do not work)...
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You may want to leave some time for a user to grant su permissions when installing as a system application. I've seen this on other apps. It took a couple tries to be quick enough to allow your app permissions before it reported that it didn't have them.
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I indeed noted that sometimes it failed after being granted su permissions... Note sure how to permanently solve this, but I'll try to put a delay before launching further commands under su process to see if it improves.
Wish it was easier to test it, but unfortunately it often requires rebooting the phone!!!
What does "synchro (system)" control? I figure what the "synchro (power)" version does, but system? Seems to disable background data, but what else?
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What does "synchro (system)" control? I figure what the "synchro (power)" version does, but system? Seems to disable background data, but what else?
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Actually it controls both background data and auto-sync, enabling or disabling both. It disables both only when both are enabled.
ccounotte said:
Well, that's why I initially left this out, because uninstall from system is not as easy as installing to system! I'll try to improve it by moving the app back to user space instead, but then users might end-up with multiple installs... Quite tricky.
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Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Your widget successfully causes the background data checkbox to toggle. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for my needs, however:
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I've found that "auto-sync" only applies to google accounts: gmail, gmail contacts and google calendar on the DROID 2. My primary email is an IMAP account and I'd prefer not to receive these notifications (and ones from other aps) during the evening hours.
My phone also likes to stop syncing randomly, and toggling background data corrects the problem. Going through the maze of settings is just too annoying to be toggling this option on a regular basis.
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Unchecking background data with your widget still does not stop the IMAP emails from coming through, nor does it correct the syncing problem like toggling the option directly does. The phone seems to know that background data is off (as tested by attempting to start the Market), but it doesn't have the same effect. Only thing I noticed is that toggling background data off with your widget leaves a popup asking you to confirm if you go through the system settings and look at the checkbox. Perhaps the setting doesn't take full effect until a user acknowledges this box, which your widget currently does not do. Not sure if that's even possible.
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Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Your widget successfully causes the background data checkbox to toggle. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for my needs, however:
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Only thing I noticed is that toggling background data off with your widget leaves a popup asking you to confirm if you go through the system settings and look at the checkbox.
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Background data option (in settings or elsewhere) is a settings that can be checked by application, but it doesn't actually prevent any app from using data connections in the background (the warning message when disabling it).
Your IMAP app probably doesn't care about this particular setting.
On 3 phones I tested using the toggle never brought the warning message, even when opening the settings for that option!? On the other hand the warning/confirmation message is always shown when enabling WIFI localization.
Looks like a ROM's bug?
....looks great~ got to try this .
brightness toggle
hi
is there a way to control the brightness levels for each state of the brightness toggle icon?
all in all nice widget tho!
Can;t install app as system
I recently bought your app but I'm having trouble installing it as a system app. Everything seems to work fine when I try to install it, I rebbot my phone, but after reboot the app is still an "user app" and the system toggles dont work...
Could you help me please? Because I'd really love to be abble to use the system toggles (specially the one to toggle System Location).
Thank you
(I,m running CM10.1 btw)
tristaoeast said:
I recently bought your app but I'm having trouble installing it as a system app. Everything seems to work fine when I try to install it, I rebbot my phone, but after reboot the app is still an "user app" and the system toggles dont work...
Could you help me please? Because I'd really love to be abble to use the system toggles (specially the one to toggle System Location).
Thank you
(I,m running CM10.1 btw)
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This feature requires a rooted device as explained in app description: "10 System toggles (requires rooted phones to install app to system)"
Are you sure your device is rooted as you mentioned in your PM your /data directory is empty I suspect it's not.
Hi, this is a great app but it won't turn off the location (system) after turn on.
I have to manually go settings > google > untick everything.
O.K. Wearing my tinfoil hat. Looked and couldn't find the processes that might operate this rootkit on my Bionic, but I really can't be certain what I am looking for.
The HTC versions were IQAgent and IQRD. Nothing similar that I have found, but I'll bet they are there somewhere.
Anyone found anything?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video
RMD
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I've heard that it could be disguised as Contacts Sync and ContactsData. They have the same icon (although that doesn't mean much).
I haven't been able to determine if its the same thing or not.
Anyone able to confirm that the Bionic is CarrierIQ free?
I tried the Logging test tool, but if they renamed the app it won't work.
Either way, this thing is going to cause such a lawsuit with huge repercussion. (which they deserve)
railmaster7 said:
I've heard that it could be disguised as Contacts Sync and ContactsData. They have the same icon (although that doesn't mean much).
I haven't been able to determine if its the same thing or not.
Anyone able to confirm that the Bionic is CarrierIQ free?
I tried the Logging test tool, but if they renamed the app it won't work.
Either way, this thing is going to cause such a lawsuit with huge repercussion. (which they deserve)
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Likewise, I ran the "CIQ Checks" test in the "Logging Test App" by xda member TrevE mentioned in this article as a reliable way of testing for the presence of CIQ: http://lifehacker.com/5863895/carri...everything-on-your-phone-and-how-to-remove-it The test completed running and nothing showed up in the "CIQ File List" so I'm assuming the Bionic is clean.
I don't think the Contacts Sync and ContactsData icons are a reliable way to test for CIQ. Found this on another site: "The icon is a default icon, not specific to Carrier IQ. It can't help you determine whether or not CIQ is present."
After all the latest news about the rootkit that is allowing apps to bypass requests and can track what you're doing on the phone, I have found that particular app on our Bionics.
First, read this article:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/are-carriers-illegally-tapping-your-android-phone
Next, go to settings, applications, manage applications, all applications tab, and look for the Fake Blur app. I am rooted and rommed and noticed that I still have this app. Is it something that we should be worried about? Has anyone tried uninstalling it and seeing if the phone still works without it?
Well, for whatever it's worth:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602532/verizon-carrier-iq-denial
So that would seem to strongly support the idea that the Bionic lacks CIQ.
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After all the latest news about the rootkit that is allowing apps to bypass requests and can track what you're doing on the phone, I have found that particular app on our Bionics.
First, read this article:
http://www.helloandroid.com/content/are-carriers-illegally-tapping-your-android-phone
Next, go to settings, applications, manage applications, all applications tab, and look for the Fake Blur app. I am rooted and rommed and noticed that I still have this app. Is it something that we should be worried about? Has anyone tried uninstalling it and seeing if the phone still works without it?
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I'm tempted to use TB to remove this completely from my phone... and it's present in Liberty v2.0
Stories said:
I'm tempted to use TB to remove this completely from my phone... and it's present in Liberty v2.0
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It's present in Shifter rom also. I was going to uninstall it using TB, but it seems like it might stop something from working, because when I attempted to force stop the application and went back to my homescreens, it was like I had just turned the phone on and they were sluggish.
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It's present in Shifter rom also. I was going to uninstall it using TB, but it seems like it might stop something from working, because when I attempted to force stop the application and went back to my homescreens, it was like I had just turned the phone on and they were sluggish.
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I froze it with titanium a few hours ago and hadn't had any issues or FC's yet. I'm running Purity.
Wondering if anyone else is having this problem. I got my Nexus 4 (Yeah!), started it up, logged into my google acct, everything started downloading/restoring from google. I checked out the Messaging app and settings, and noticed a "group messages" setting. Sweet!!! But then I got a system update notification. I obviously installed it. After installing it, I used gobackup pro to restore my messaging threads. NOT THE APP, just the threads. Checking the settings again, the "group messages" setting was gone! Just gone! Not sure if it was the system update, or the thread restore, but I am perplexed. I've done 2 factory resets since, but the setting is still gone. Messaging ver. is 4.2-57622 or something like that (don't have the phone with me at the moment.) I'm guessing it had to do with the system update, and that is why it's still not there after the factory resets, but, I really have no idea. I am stock, no root, or unlocked bootloader. Stock, pure stock (the reason I bought a nexus device). Any help or related info would be greatly appreciated! I've searched everywhere, and seem to be the only one with this issue. Any screenshots of anyone else's messaging settings running that app version would help too. Thanks
You'd probably get more help if this was in the Q&A section.
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Messaging v4.2-527622
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Messaging v4.2-527622
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Man, I'm confused. I have no idea what happened. The group part is totally omitted from mine. I've tried to reinstall the app, but can't get very far without root. Thank you for the screenshot. At least I know that the setting isn't just hidden in the Ota update.
Have you tried the reset settings to default option? Or clearing the data for the messaging app?
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Have you tried the reset settings to default option? Or clearing the data for the messaging app?
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Yeah, done both. One thing someone just said in another thread, isit may be carrier dependent, and the OTA update hides the setting unless your carrier supports it. Being as I have only played with the phone on wifi just to make sure I am happy with it and don't want to return it,(as it is a christmas present ) I'm starting to wonder if that is my problem. I have no sim installed, so the settings may be hidden until you pop a sim in and the phone recognizes that your carrier supports it.
Usage Manager app (built-in/stock) used to work.
It no longer does. When I tap it, the screen briefly flashes dark (like it was opening), and then it instantly closes. No error message is shown.
I'm running Rooted Stock MI9 (rooted with RDLV - MJ5 doesn't seem to have anything I want that justifies risking breaking a working setup), with Wanam, TiBu, Light Manager (paid), Keyboard Manager (to use hacker keyboard with terminal and ssh, and swype everywhere else), and Pen Window manager, plus some really boring, typical apps. No games, nothing other than the listed apps that does anything exotic.
It stopped working some time during the last several weeks. I have changed no settings during this time. The only app I have installed is Light Manager Pro (I previously used the free version, until a paid one came out), and I doubt this is the problem, but I have run normal app updates.
Anyone know what it is that causes this issue? I can still get to the battery and data usage screens from settings. It's just usage manager that doesn't seem to work.
Stock MJ5, lots of other apps, no games or weird stuff. Never had Usage Manager on the screen, but I put it on now and it works. Did you try removing it and reinstalling it? (I know widgets sometimes get screwed up and you have to redo them, I've never seen it with an app, but maybe?)
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Stock MJ5, lots of other apps, no games or weird stuff. Never had Usage Manager on the screen, but I put it on now and it works. Did you try removing it and reinstalling it? (I know widgets sometimes get screwed up and you have to redo them, I've never seen it with an app, but maybe?)
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Is there also a widget form of Usage Manager? I'm just using the app.
I can't remove/reinstall it, I don't think - it's a stock app, and doesn't show in application manager...
In any event, I suspect it's one of the root apps that's breaking it. But I don't know which one or what needs to be done to make them play well together.
DrAzzy said:
Is there also a widget form of Usage Manager?
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No, sorry if it sounded like that. I just installed the app from the long-press on the screen.
I can't remove/reinstall it, I don't think - it's a stock app, and doesn't show in application manager...
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Long-press the icon on the screen and you can remove the icon on the screen. Then reinstall the screen icon.
What I meant about widgets is that I've had widgets do weird things and by removing and reinstalling them, they worked again.
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No, sorry if it sounded like that. I just installed the app from the long-press on the screen.
Long-press the icon on the screen and you can remove the icon on the screen. Then reinstall the screen icon.
What I meant about widgets is that I've had widgets do weird things and by removing and reinstalling them, they worked again.
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Oh, I've done that already - doesn't work.
It also closes instantly when launched from apps screen.
No bueno, How about unrooting, asking for a warranty swap and living with MJ5? Or isn't having the link on the desktop worth the drive? I think for a little thing like that I'd just live with it. I save my fights for nuclear war (like an OTA bootlooping the phone).
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No bueno, How about unrooting, asking for a warranty swap and living with MJ5? Or isn't having the link on the desktop worth the drive? I think for a little thing like that I'd just live with it. I save my fights for nuclear war (like an OTA bootlooping the phone).
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Well that escalated quickly....
This is clearly a software problem. I think it unconscionable and selfish to return known-good hardware for a software problem, because then the cost of this bogus warranty return gets passed on to everyone else (in other words, you and I). I choose not to make the world worse for every other AT&T customer (we suffer enough) to get one app that I am almost certainly responsible for breaking working again.
I'm sure I could fix it by reflashing stock, but I don't really want to do that, because it's so much work to get everything set back up. I was asking in the hopes that someone has seen this before.
Anyone know if there's a way to "reset app data" like you can for most apps, on the usage manager app?
I have pretty much the same setup except I'm on MI9 and don't have that keyboard setup you have. Mine does the same thing. Never could find out what broke it. Sure would like it back though.
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I must stand corrected. I had the same fc issues last week with usage manager. Tried putting the shortcut back on home screen and messed with it for about a hour trying to find what broke it. Finally gave up. Just tried it now and it functions just fine. Oh well. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
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Well that escalated quickly....
This is clearly a software problem. I think it unconscionable and selfish to return known-good hardware for a software problem, because then the cost of this bogus warranty return gets passed on to everyone else (in other words, you and I). I choose not to make the world worse for every other AT&T customer (we suffer enough) to get one app that I am almost certainly responsible for breaking working again.
I'm sure I could fix it by reflashing stock, but I don't really want to do that, because it's so much work to get everything set back up. I was asking in the hopes that someone has seen this before.
Anyone know if there's a way to "reset app data" like you can for most apps, on the usage manager app?
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What about using TiBU to restore the app data from a previous backup?
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Same thing here
DrAzzy said:
Usage Manager app (built-in/stock) used to work.
It no longer does. When I tap it, the screen briefly flashes dark (like it was opening), and then it instantly closes. No error message is shown.
I'm running Rooted Stock MI9 (rooted with RDLV - MJ5 doesn't seem to have anything I want that justifies risking breaking a working setup), with Wanam, TiBu, Light Manager (paid), Keyboard Manager (to use hacker keyboard with terminal and ssh, and swype everywhere else), and Pen Window manager, plus some really boring, typical apps. No games, nothing other than the listed apps that does anything exotic.
It stopped working some time during the last several weeks. I have changed no settings during this time. The only app I have installed is Light Manager Pro (I previously used the free version, until a paid one came out), and I doubt this is the problem, but I have run normal app updates.
Anyone know what it is that causes this issue? I can still get to the battery and data usage screens from settings. It's just usage manager that doesn't seem to work.
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I believe mine started after installing the ATT Allaccess app
Mine broke when I used SD Maid. It deleted a temp file that much I know. Just not sure where. I'm going to refresh the rom and attempt to recreate the break by using sd maid. When I see what file is deleted I'll see if simply putting it back does the trick. I'm using a note 3 att 900a with the Walter White lollipop rooted rom.
I've waiting to see if anyone else is having this issue before posting but haven't seen it. I've been having this problem since I got the 6 and rooted ect, even on stock Rom. After some time, a day or less, when a new app prompts su for permission, I can't select allow. Also I can not longer side load an app. When it shows cancel or install, I can't select install, only cancel. Weirdest thing. I'm on my 3rd Rom, and it just started.
esincho said:
I've waiting to see if anyone else is having this issue before posting but haven't seen it. I've been having this problem since I got the 6 and rooted ect, even on stock Rom. After some time, a day or less, when a new app prompts su for permission, I can't select allow. Also I can not longer side load an app. When it shows cancel or install, I can't select install, only cancel. Weirdest thing. I'm on my 3rd Rom, and it just started.
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You have a screen filter on...
The package manager disables install with the filter on to prevent tapjacking
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You have a screen filter on...
The package manager disables install with the filter on to prevent tapjacking
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Wow, had to think about what u was saying. It was the lux app. Crazy, thank u. I never put that together