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Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
iamwyim said:
I have purchased my Nokia 8 this March. Other than the camera, the phone has a superb quality and performance. I have found that the noise on the photo taken from Nokia 8 is rather high, and focusing on images take a little bit longer, so it is quite hard to take a quick snap if you wish to. However, such weakness can be recovered if you have installed the Google camera from Pixel. Other than that, it is a superb phone with good quality and fast update.
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
arceuss said:
Hey guys,
I'm planning to purchase Nokia 8 copper colour now. I googled about it, quality and features seems good. But when I saw the development in xda, I was little shocked. So, just wanted to know if it's worthy to be purchased. I'm open to suggestion and kindly share your experience with the phone... Thanks in advance...
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IT depends on the country where you live, but in most places you can get a Sony Xperia xz1 or honor v10 for the same price. Both with better standby battery life and unlockable bootloaders. The cameras of those phones are also a bit better.
Everything is great here , even the camera if you use google camera you will get very nice pictures , but the only thing i dont like on this device is the design, I like the new screen aspect ratio
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Thanks, What about battery life? And how is Carl Ziess compared to other cameras
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To be honest, the camera is not as good as the flagship phone available in nowadays (or even at the time it released). The noise on the photo is visible at night time (sometimes even in day time). I can only say that the camera is just about average compare with the mid-tier phone.
The battery life is okay to me, but I always turn on the battery saved mode and turn off the Glance.
I hope this answers might help you to make up your decision.
I bought mine a few weeks ago and have been loving it since. I came froma Moto Z Play so I had a lot to consider before buying. First, battery life, no Snapdragon 8xx can come close to the Snapdragon 6xx series. And also stock Android experience is the best experience for me. So I'm left with Honor View 10, Nokia 8, or wait for Nokia 7 Plus.
Nokia 7 Plus will have a great battery life nut has gorilla glass 3 and no OIS.
Honor View 10 has better camera and battery life but has EMUI and a Kirin processor (even though it's a at Snapdragon 8xx level). However it does support project Treble, so if you wanna root around it should be easier.
The Nokia 8, which is good but has subpar camera and subpar battery life. But considering how small the battery is and how powerful the processor is, it does have a better battery life but would've been better if Nokia added more. And camera is fine at least better than my previous phone as I just needed some decent photo. Google Pixel camera app made it waaaaaayyyyy better.
I hope it helps you decide.
I find the battery life superb, most days i have over 70% left with moderate use or 40%'ish with heavy use without WiFi using data only.
Here in Chile it's price is way affordable than other flagships from Samsung, Sony, Motorola, LG, etc. So, having that in consideration, plus it's hardware and software is the best deal for what you get.
Battery life is great
Screen quality and brightness in sunlight also great
Sound i find it really good
Camera is good too, maybe it isn't way good at night as other flagships with lower apertures, but it gives really decent pictures. Video is good also, very good quality and stabilization is decent enough. And it's surround recording sistem is really nice.
So hardware wise is one of the best options you can get here for it's price. It's a Nokia so you would expect a sturdy phone, almost unbreakable lol.
In software you get the latest updates really quickly.
Maybe it doesn't have unlockable bootloader easily as other phones with Snapdragon SoCs, but having cutting edge updates almost same as Google pixel devices I would say maybe it's not necessary to have much development. Things I've noticed over the years is that most developments that triumphs are those that make ROMs as stock as possible.
So if you like stock Android go for it I don't thing you'll get disappointed. But if you are a camera maniatic , maybe you should consider some other device
I'm mostly considering battery life and everyday camera.
I'm typing from my op6 but I might return it as it has terrible battery life, everything else is fab.
What are your thoughts?
Considering batter life and camera performance its most probably the P20 pro. But if you want to install custom roms and have a great developer scene you should stick with the OP6.
BTW I've never heard the op6 had a terrible battery life really.
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
varignet said:
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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Battery is the best ive ever had... IVE been up for over an hour checking email and something on ebay and im still at 100%... as far as the camera. its also great and will get better with upcoming updates..
freddyttt said:
Battery is the best ive ever had... IVE been up for over an hour checking email and something on ebay and im still at 100%... as far as the camera. its also great and will get better with upcoming updates..
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I suppose you're referring to the p20pro
any problem issue anything? I for instance remember people having issue with the cursor latency and after a bit of digging it seems it was solved with v110 or 120 of the firmware.
Would you overall recommend it?
varignet said:
Thx, have the stuttering and cursor latency been fixed?
Lots of complaints on the op forum.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...ve-battery-life.837232/page-124#post-18580171
I for one have 4h sot doing very light tasks.
Might be due poor reception as well.
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With 4h of very light tasks, on P20 Pro you'll end up with 50% battery remaining or even more. With heavy usage (a full day in 4g,high accuracy location always ON, 2 hours of music streaming, 30 mins of heavy gaming, taking pics etc...) I got 4-5h of sot with 15-20% left.
The screen latency was fixed with updates. I overall recommend it! If you're looking for great battery and a great camera in a smartphone, this one is the best right now. Some review adresses poor camera performance, but in real life it's outstanding: zoom, low light and the large amount of setting makes it the most versatile camera out there.
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I'm mostly considering battery life and everyday camera.
I'm typing from my op6 but I might return it as it has terrible battery life, everything else is fab.
What are your thoughts?
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Very tough one that.
Camera is better on the p20 pro besides video which is superior on the oneplus 6
Battery is a tough one, the p20 pro has a huge battery but at the same time it's not the most efficient device in the world, i average about 8 hours SOT per full charge, where as with my oneplus 5 i used to average 10 hours maxing out one time with a mental 14 hours SOT, the pro simply can't beat that, with that being said though the oneplus 6 hasnt upgraded it's battery afaik so it would probably even out with the p20 pro or perhaps be worse.
in regards to software, with a few tweaks the p20 pro is a very well customized device with all the options you'll ever need.
The oneplus is really minimal which is superb for pace, but you'll have more ROM's to flash than you'll know what to do with.
Aftermarket development is totally one sided with the Oneplus 6 getting a lot of attention and some great developers whereas the p20 has erm ? 2 i think
CPU / GPU: Oneplus 6 hands down, the 845 is a crazy processor which will never slow down plus it's very efficient and seldom overheats, you'd have to throw a lot at it.
The P20 on the other hand gets warm at times when very little is going on.
If i had the choice now? I think i'd probably get the oneplus 6 although i'd probably be looking over the fence at the p20 pro, it's camera is just amazing.
Depends what you want pal, i don't think theres a wrong decision here, they're both great devices.
Just to confuse you even more, why don't you wait for the pixel 3 xl, it's looking decent.
P20 Pro is definitely the one to get if you're looking for great battery life+cameras, I've heard about the battery issues on the OP6 too, OP pushed an update that disabled the always on display because of poor battery life the P20 Pro should fare much much better. Definitely get the P20 Pro if you can, it's just a better phone overall, speakers are top notch, performance is great and the chin is smaller in person, haven't had any issues so far.
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I suppose you're referring to the p20pro
any problem issue anything? I for instance remember people having issue with the cursor latency and after a bit of digging it seems it was solved with v110 or 120 of the firmware.
Would you overall recommend it?
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Yes p20 pro... my short lists of phones
v30
s9+
note8
op6
u12+
ive got zero regrets choosing this phone. the battery and camera are amazing. the Op6 was in the running until i looked at phots posted from real users and NOT professional review sights. I use Nova pro and glance plus to handle my notifications and AOD. in short. amazing. love the blacks(screen) this phone produces.
Sample indoor low light
I am looking for new phone from past 4 days and I am not able to find better option than this K20 Pro, due to sd855 present in it. For the price it's available right now I couldn't find another. My main priorities are:-
1) it should handle game fluently
2)good rear cameras (not for printing photos but uploading on instagram)
3)have a good community for custom rom development (this phone have that)
4)have decent battery backup as i am not going to game whole day but yeah approx. 2hrs game session
5)last but very important for me a HEADPHONE jack is a must thing.
I wanna ask is that, is it worth to buy this phone even when its 1year old. Also, I wanna know if there is an alternative to this phone or should I go with it without having any thought.
Earlier I considered realme x3 pro(due to sd855+ but there was no headphone jack, no custom roms) and ONeplus nord( i think it's overpriced and without headphone jack).
I am gonna use new phone for atleast 2yrs, so what are your thought about this phone? is it worth to buy or to wait to for another flagship killer(which is very hard to see in near future)?
prakharayush31 said:
I am looking for new phone from past 4 days and I am not able to find better option than this K20 Pro, due to sd855 present in it. For the price it's available right now I couldn't find another. My main priorities are:-
1) it should handle game fluently
2)good rear cameras (not for printing photos but uploading on instagram)
3)have a good community for custom rom development (this phone have that)
4)have decent battery backup as i am not going to game whole day but yeah approx. 2hrs game session
5)last but very important for me a HEADPHONE jack is a must thing.
I wanna ask is that, is it worth to buy this phone even when its 1year old. Also, I wanna know if there is an alternative to this phone or should I go with it without having any thought.
Earlier I considered realme x3 pro(due to sd855+ but there was no headphone jack, no custom roms) and ONeplus nord( i think it's overpriced and without headphone jack).
I am gonna use new phone for atleast 2yrs, so what are your thought about this phone? is it worth to buy or to wait to for another flagship killer(which is very hard to see in near future)?
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Don't think too much now, go for it. I had similar questions before buy it, but for me they were: no notch, fm radio, jack, custom roms, a fair battery (4000 is the minimum). I didn't care too much about the cpu but this one is a beast. The cameras are just fine since I'm not a photographer. The only con for me is not having an external sd card. The biggest pro for me is not having to look at a f#cking hole or notch. We already have an aosp 11 rom if you need it & we'll probably have some more android os versions. This phone is worth to buy & if you ask, I would bought it again without think twice.
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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First time I've heard of a 6.4" screen described as too small???
The aspect ratio is identical to almost all current phones, so it's certainly not narrow compared to anything else. The resolution of FHD+ is absolutely fine. The human eye cannot distinguish higher resolutions, at typical reading distances. This is why going to QHD is pointless and a waste of money.
Currently almost all phones with the SD865 and SD865+ have jumped in price by quite a margin over the previous SD855 phones. So this phone still represents very good value for money. It's certainly better value than the current SD7xx midrange phones, that are similar in price.
However the K30 Pro/POCO F2 Pro came with only a reasonably small increase in price, so is not much more expensive and is probably the best value SD865 phone currently available. This would be my choice if I was buying a 'budget flagship' today. If this is stretching the budget too much, then this (K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro) phone is definitely still worth buying.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
bilal.fanatic said:
Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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Robbo.5000 said:
First time I've heard of a 6.4" screen described as too small???
The aspect ratio is identical to almost all current phones, so it's certainly not narrow compared to anything else. The resolution of FHD+ is absolutely fine. The human eye cannot distinguish higher resolutions, at typical reading distances. This is why going to QHD is pointless and a waste of money.
Currently almost all phones with the SD865 and SD865+ have jumped in price by quite a margin over the previous SD855 phones. So this phone still represents very good value for money. It's certainly better value than the current SD7xx midrange phones, that are similar in price.
However the K30 Pro/POCO F2 Pro came with only a reasonably small increase in price, so is not much more expensive and is probably the best value SD865 phone currently available. This would be my choice if I was buying a 'budget flagship' today. If this is stretching the budget too much, then this (K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro) phone is definitely still worth buying.
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yes dude I agree with you K30 Pro came with reasonably small price increase, but it's not available in India. If it was launched here I would definitely go for K30 Pro, that is why I was considering this K20 Pro. Well thanks for the help bro I got my answer. Going to get this phone on upcoming sales with exchange and bank offers.
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Sorry to sound rude, but what the f*** are you talking about?? small screen??? quality not good??? Bro its 6.4" 1080p Super AMOLED panel! And android 11 is confirmed for this phone and we got 1 update to android 10 not 2. Do you even know what you are talking about??
I would absolutely recommend buying this phone.
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yeah 6.4 is sufficient for me, and now I have decided, I am gonna buy this phone in exchange of my very old Moto G turbo. Thanks a lot bro for giving advice about this device
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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worth considering you points bro that you told, but I think it's gonna a huge upgrade for me as I will be switching from my Samsung Galaxy S7. May be screen quality will not be that good compared to samsung, but I currently I use my device on 720p to reduce battery drain.:good:
bro can you tell how are the pictures captured with google camera mod is? (compared to stock camera)
mauam said:
Don't think too much now, go for it. I had similar questions before buy it, but for me they were: no notch, fm radio, jack, custom roms, a fair battery (4000 is the minimum). I didn't care too much about the cpu but this one is a beast. The cameras are just fine since I'm not a photographer. The only con for me is not having an external sd card. The biggest pro for me is not having to look at a f#cking hole or notch. We already have an aosp 11 rom if you need it & we'll probably have some more android os versions. This phone is worth to buy & if you ask, I would bought it again without think twice.
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thanks for the help bro.
Turbine1991 said:
I kind of regret it. There's noting really wrong with the phone, it just leaves a lot to be desired.
-The screen is very small and narrow & the bezel is quite large for a modern phone.
-Battery life is pretty good, but not great.
-The screen quality/resolution is not good. I find it quite distracting, although you get used to it somewhat.
-The back camera is not good compared to other devices.
-There might be no more support for Xiaomi. Meaning we may never get Android 11 for the device. As we've technically had our 2 updates. Which is pretty bs.
The screen size of the Pocofone F2 or the Mi 10 Ultra is where I'd probably put my money.
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What you are talking about are phones from 2025. The K20P/Mi 9T Pro is an amazing phone. The screen is actually quite large, but not oversized (the phone's dimensions are about as equal to the OnePlus 3). The bezels are thin enough to not be annoying, but not too thin for you to accidentally press the screen while holding it (looking at you, Samsung phones with edge display. Even though there's a rejection algorithm in place to solve this).
The battery life is decent with 4Ah, but we already see that the next-gen phones have a capacity of 4.5Ah to 5Ah. 4Ah is still enough to last a day, the problem I face with MIUI is that idle drain is a lot.
The 1080x2340 screen is pretty good, especially in terms of PPI (I mean, you shouldn't complain if you compare this to your desktop monitor, laptop, or television). Color space is also pretty good with D3 color space when you use the "warm" preset.
The main rear camera is superior (IMX586) and gcam modders are busy with unlocking the full potential of the sensor by modifying the driver.
The only thing you are correct about is the support from Xiaomi (or should I say, Xiaomeme), with not only lack of updates, but lack of security updates. The latest MIUI 12 EEA v12.0.2.0 rom came with a 1-month outdated security patch. It's a shame to see that they simply don't care about their flagship phones, or they have too many devices and rom variants to maintain, so they rather focus on the China beta roms and push completed changes over to stable Global, EEA, CN, RU and IN.
If you have no issues with MIUI (MIUI 12 is actually pretty good, I prefer it over stock android, because of the split notifications), I'd suggest staying on it till Xiaomi decides to end the support and then switch to a custom rom.
Go for it, good phone overall no notch and cheap.
I am thinking about switching phones from my OnePlus 9. I like my OP9, but it is very glitchy for what it is supposed to be and really the only thing that impresses me is the WarpCharge feature. I am very fond of smaller phones, such as the ZenFone 8. I haven't purchased an ASUS device at all before, not even a computer.
Who has it and do you think it is worth even considering? My daily use consists of social media, internet browsing, and watching videos. It is very rarely that I download a game and play it on mobile. I also prefer somewhat swift updates, but have been an avid Motorola user before and was perfectly fine with their update timings.
I'm also in the same boat however 'm using Nord now..not very much satisfied with it..Oneplus really lost its glory now a days . Also 'm looking for compact phones..ZF8 seems to be perfect..would like to hear from real users..
I'm on the same boat except I'm using Xiaomi Mi 9T. Zenfone 8 looks like a perfect phone but I heard the thermals are bad and it gets hot af, like really hot.
I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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I have it and the only down side is standby drain. Even after a few system updates my drain is about 50-100% higher than my op6. It's gotten better since the first version, but still not great.
I love it's form factor, GUI fluidity, Asus apps are great.
I haven't played any games so I can't really say anything about thermals.. never felt any temperature build-up.
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Does it last at least around 6-8 hours?
The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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How long does the battery last for you?
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The screen isn't the best and the battery drains a bit too quick, but I'd say it's worth it. I like the stock ROM. The power button can be customised to perform two different actions, Game Genie shows CPU, GPU, battery, temperature and FPS, Optiflex speeds up apps and reduces battery usage. Also, didn't expect to find system performance modes, dt2w, dt2s or gestures, which, if drawn while the screen is off, launch apps.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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Awesome reply! I believe I will be purchasing it to replace my OP9.
Kemez said:
This opinion is very subjective and quite off.
The screen isn't the best? Maybe there are literally few phones with better screens but it's definitely among the very top. No idea what is wrong with it.
Battery drain? I get easily 6h SOT and whole day use. No issues at all. 8h during night eats me like 5-8 percent. The good is that all my smartwatches and earbuds are very stable and I get no disconnections like on Huawei flagship phones.
I can confirm that coming video in bright sun in 30 Celsius gets the phone hot, very hot. I think that's normal. And it's waterproof so I've just taken it underwater for 5s and it was back to normal.
If you can live with the cut out camera - this phone is brilliant.
I was using LG V30 and Huawei Mate 20 before this and I see no downsides. Everything is better than on those two. I like them all.
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When I said "not the best" I had two things in mind. First the backlight issue at 60 and 120 Hz. As for the second one, few days ago my Zf8 was on a desk together with my previous phone (Xperia 5 II). I think I had some web pages open on both at the time because the screens were mostly white. When I looked at them while standing and almost at a flat angle, I immediately noticed that the Xperia's screen was white as a sheet of paper, Zenfone's wasn't. I assumed the Xperia's screen can be viewed without distortion at wider angles.
I played one game which is locked at 30 FPS, CPU and GPU usage was 10-30%, temp stayed at 36-37C. Will try something more demanding and see if it can go over 40C during the weekend.
Edit: idle drain 0.5%/h, but Franco Kernel Manager shows 0.28% for some reason
Good topic to keep track of.
Right now i have a OnePlus 9 Pro and as i really like it I'm kind of done with big smartphones.
As i had the Pixel 5 before i was thinking about going back and then the ZenFone 8 came to my attention.
It's damn ugly but that's something that can be changed with a case or skin.
I'm in doubt about the camera's compared to the Pixel 5 but the reviews I've seen so far seems quite good, not the best but good and comparable to the OnePlus 9.
I also read that Asus's update policy is not very reliable.
Anyone can give their opinion about this parts?
Everything else about this phone seems really good!
After using the zenfone 8 and Pixel 5 I went for the Pixel 5 because of the insanely better battery life than on the zenfone 8
Zenfone 8 had a slightly better camera with gcam but overall I was more impressed with the Pixel 5
It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in Poland the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
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It is true that other phones may have better battery, the Mate 20 I have is much better but at the cost of unreliable smart devices connection.
I can't get 2 days of my normal usage out of any phone. If I go hiking and just have the phone with me the Zenfone will also last 2-3 days easily. For me 1 day is the requirement and Zenfone does it easily.
The cameras are really good and with gcam and the right settings in there it gives great, real to life pictures. The super wide camera has the same sensor as Pixel 5. The main and selfie are even better and newer.
And the main thing - here in EU the Pixel is 290USD more expensive than Asus. At the same price I'd probably buy the Pixel as it is a more established brand and has better support.
People write here that ZF8 can be bad at getting updates but the initial month had 4 updates. Can't see anything wrong here.
If the ZF9 will be the same size and gets the flip camera I will 100% buy it.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Pixel has a different sensor for the ultra wide. For the others i can't comment on that but it seems they are at least very close to each when it comes to picture quality.
It's so strange that the price difference in the world is so big. Here in the Netherlands the zenfone 8 is more expensive compared to the Pixel 5.
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The wide camera sensor in ZF8 is the same as main in Pixel. At least I read that.
KaydenMcCurdyTech said:
I can't say much on the phone as I've not used one yet, but from my own research and a friend whose ordered one, I can give me opinion. The specs are great, I think it exceeds in every category, but the camera. I don't the camera is as good as it could be, and maybe even the screen. The 120hz is real nice though. It's all personal preference really. I'm a Samsung guy but have been trying other phones because, well, why not. I'm by far not an expert, but I most certainly will share my opinion with you. My friend did mention that his tends to get hot, really hot. Keep that in mind.
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Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Undead_Son said:
Barely felt any heat so far. When exactly does it get hot for your friend?
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
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Ah that explains it, thanks
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Anything that runs the CPU/GPU high. You have to enable performance mode (or custom mode for max performance/temp limit) to let it get hot though. Case mitigates its feel to an extent.
And it can get burning hot, try it on any 3d game.
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That really riddles me. So there are non gaming phones that do not get hot in similar settings? Especially during summer?
Pretty much what title says. I'm planning to install an AOSP ROM, don't like MIUI at all.
javier87gav said:
Pretty much what title says. I'm planning to install an AOSP ROM, don't like MIUI at all.
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Hi, I don't like MIUI either.. Do it!
Jan Skokan said:
Hi, I don't like MIUI either.. Do it!
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But the main question was if the phone is still worth it in 2023, I'm planning to buy this one in the second hand market.
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But the main question was if the phone is still worth it in 2023, I'm planning to buy this one in the second hand market.
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what specifications matter for you the most (body, display, memory, cameras, connectivity, features, battery and overall perfomance)
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what specifications matter for you the most (body, display, memory, cameras, connectivity, features, battery and overall perfomance)
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As far as I know both body and display are some of the strengths of this phone. I guess connectivity is not an issue, it was a flagship and it was built in the most current versions of bluetooth, NFC, wifi, 5G, 4G, etc. About the camera, I know it doesn't compete with other flagship's cameras from the same year but I think it's more than OK. Of course I want it to take good overall photos but I'm not a photography nazi. I don't use to do gamming and I believe overall performance should be pretty good. My main concerns are MIUI, processor and battery. Snapdragon 888 was the best at that time but it came with lot of heat issues. I think 4600mah is ok on paper but I'm not really sure how it performs on the field. Probably the heat issues affect the battery performance. MIUI wouldn't help on this matter.. Finally, about MIUI, as long as custom AOSP ROMs are stable it shouldn't be a concern. This is an important point for me, I like custom ROMs.
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As far as I know both body and display are some of the strengths of this phone. I guess connectivity is not an issue, it was a flagship and it was built in the most current versions of bluetooth, NFC, wifi, 5G, 4G, etc. About the camera, I know it doesn't compete with other flagship's cameras from the same year but I think it's more than OK. Of course I want it to take good overall photos but I'm not a photography nazi. I don't use to do gamming and I believe overall performance should be pretty good. My main concerns are MIUI, processor and battery. Snapdragon 888 was the best at that time but it came with lot of heat issues. I think 4600mah is ok on paper but I'm not really sure how it performs on the field. Probably the heat issues affect the battery performance. MIUI wouldn't help on this matter.. Finally, about MIUI, as long as custom AOSP ROMs are stable it shouldn't be a concern. This is an important point for me, I like custom ROMs.
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ok, good points u got there
seems like connectivity doesnt matter to you, i can see, even though it has more recent tech. if its the case or something else that you are really fine with then youre good
you also would like to take photos by being more than average (id suppose some landscapes, sunsets, structures, monuments, etc?). the mi 11 offers a great sensor and a camera system, and you love to take good quality photos. if i put into perspective that maybe you just are a overall photo shooter, then it is just enough *
i never had a snapdragon 888 powered device, but from some sources the snapdragon 888 can withstand normal and daily tasks, but on heavier tasks it can throttle (thats the issue. when the socket reaches a high temp or overheats under heavy tasks, it can max out or temporarily decrease the potential of running at full speed and try to slow it down, getting you a decrease in performance till it cools down. from the web, it seems like it overheats easier, but keep in mind i am completely unsure and never used a 888 device)
since you dont game, id see this problem not occur frequently and you should be fine on daily tasks.
i know about MIUI and its low points and cons. miui seems to be a ruby at first touch, but forget about it after some months from my experience with 2 xiaomi devices. aosp is great to try out the max of the device potential speed (i never saw the difference between MIUI responsiveness till I got AOSP on my redmi note 9 pro)
the battery should be fine. my note 9 pro with an 5020mah battery that holds ~65% health gets me thru the day with 4h sot. i wouldnt see the Mi 11 have such a bad battery, specially if you are looking for a second hand, those should be above ~80% battery health and not reduce by alot.
regarding your doubt due to the socket affecting the battery, yes, the socket throttles, uses more battery as it runs hot and on its high speed. as it is hot, it might heat the battery by a bit too, affecting the life of it and the longevity whenever it overheats, reducing its lifespan and battery health. not by much, if it goes underneath on this situation for just minutes. but remember, if its only for daily tasks, then dont worry about it alot, shouldnt occur frequently in my opinion, and it wont get hot that high.
* now, if you really love taking just some average photos like those, and would like to have 108MP shots and other modes, then moving to AOSP can be a issue, since some of AOSP ROMs dont offer MIUI camera built in. ive done a bit of research and saw some maintainers build it into the ROMs, so it should work.
the reason that this is important is that, in my personal opinion, having a GCam port working for your device is kind of difficult, due to the tons of XMLs, versions, types of GCams everywhere, takes a ton of time to set up to your needs. if you dont care about it, then maybe a regular XML you could find would suit you.
a recommendation from my perspective could be an S21 series, specially the S21+ for a closer budget, and being released 1 year later than the Mi 11.
it offers about the same specs, only the camera being 64MP, but offering an telephoto lens including 3x hybrid zoom (yes, 64MP with 3x zoom), and a big difference in the screen sadly.
the perfomance is at the same level of the Mi 11, offering the snapdragon 888 on US models, or the global exynos 2100 (now, the big issue is, if you have ever gotten a samsung device running exynos that would easily overheat, then rip, because exynos sockets overheat alot easier lol, but should be average for your daily tasks to be honest, since it only happened alot more frequently in older samsung models of mine)
anyways, to its screen, it offers a much lower resolution (1080x2040 to 1440x3020) and PPI (394 to 515). as you referred, its a big strength in it, so reconsider it if you are already thinking about the S21.
now, in software level, samsung already offers good enough OEMs that there is basically no custom ROMs there. people adore the OEM nowadays by samsung (personally, me too as i loved custom ROMs, with my s10e too (well, kind of, before a one UI 5 port).
the stock os from samsung should fit you just fine in my opinion, but if you really love AOSP, then get the Mi 11. *you should also get the Mi 11 since Samsung camera app cant be built to AOSP ROMs, so you would lose the camera functionality without the use of appropriate GCam settings
so, if you prefer a good OEM software, but a lower screen quality and camera, then go for the S21+.
if you love an quality screen, better camera system, but concerned about MIUI, possibly keeping the MIUI camera on AOSPs, go for the Mi 11.
i hope i helped, sorry for any mistakes and if u dont understand anything just tell
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ok, good points u got there
seems like connectivity doesnt matter to you, i can see, even though it has more recent tech. if its the case or something else that you are really fine with then youre good
you also would like to take photos by being more than average (id suppose some landscapes, sunsets, structures, monuments, etc?). the mi 11 offers a great sensor and a camera system, and you love to take good quality photos. if i put into perspective that maybe you just are a overall photo shooter, then it is just enough *
i never had a snapdragon 888 powered device, but from some sources the snapdragon 888 can withstand normal and daily tasks, but on heavier tasks it can throttle (thats the issue. when the socket reaches a high temp or overheats under heavy tasks, it can max out or temporarily decrease the potential of running at full speed and try to slow it down, getting you a decrease in performance till it cools down. from the web, it seems like it overheats easier, but keep in mind i am completely unsure and never used a 888 device)
since you dont game, id see this problem not occur frequently and you should be fine on daily tasks.
i know about MIUI and its low points and cons. miui seems to be a ruby at first touch, but forget about it after some months from my experience with 2 xiaomi devices. aosp is great to try out the max of the device potential speed (i never saw the difference between MIUI responsiveness till I got AOSP on my redmi note 9 pro)
the battery should be fine. my note 9 pro with an 5020mah battery that holds ~65% health gets me thru the day with 4h sot. i wouldnt see the Mi 11 have such a bad battery, specially if you are looking for a second hand, those should be above ~80% battery health and not reduce by alot.
regarding your doubt due to the socket affecting the battery, yes, the socket throttles, uses more battery as it runs hot and on its high speed. as it is hot, it might heat the battery by a bit too, affecting the life of it and the longevity whenever it overheats, reducing its lifespan and battery health. not by much, if it goes underneath on this situation for just minutes. but remember, if its only for daily tasks, then dont worry about it alot, shouldnt occur frequently in my opinion, and it wont get hot that high.
* now, if you really love taking just some average photos like those, and would like to have 108MP shots and other modes, then moving to AOSP can be a issue, since some of AOSP ROMs dont offer MIUI camera built in. ive done a bit of research and saw some maintainers build it into the ROMs, so it should work.
the reason that this is important is that, in my personal opinion, having a GCam port working for your device is kind of difficult, due to the tons of XMLs, versions, types of GCams everywhere, takes a ton of time to set up to your needs. if you dont care about it, then maybe a regular XML you could find would suit you.
a recommendation from my perspective could be an S21 series, specially the S21+ for a closer budget, and being released 1 year later than the Mi 11.
it offers about the same specs, only the camera being 64MP, but offering an telephoto lens including 3x hybrid zoom (yes, 64MP with 3x zoom), and a big difference in the screen sadly.
the perfomance is at the same level of the Mi 11, offering the snapdragon 888 on US models, or the global exynos 2100 (now, the big issue is, if you have ever gotten a samsung device running exynos that would easily overheat, then rip, because exynos sockets overheat alot easier lol, but should be average for your daily tasks to be honest, since it only happened alot more frequently in older samsung models of mine)
anyways, to its screen, it offers a much lower resolution (1080x2040 to 1440x3020) and PPI (394 to 515). as you referred, its a big strength in it, so reconsider it if you are already thinking about the S21.
now, in software level, samsung already offers good enough OEMs that there is basically no custom ROMs there. people adore the OEM nowadays by samsung (personally, me too as i loved custom ROMs, with my s10e too (well, kind of, before a one UI 5 port).
the stock os from samsung should fit you just fine in my opinion, but if you really love AOSP, then get the Mi 11. *you should also get the Mi 11 since Samsung camera app cant be built to AOSP ROMs, so you would lose the camera functionality without the use of appropriate GCam settings
so, if you prefer a good OEM software, but a lower screen quality and camera, then go for the S21+.
if you love an quality screen, better camera system, but concerned about MIUI, possibly keeping the MIUI camera on AOSPs, go for the Mi 11.
i hope i helped, sorry for any mistakes and if u dont understand anything just tell
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Thank you so much for your time, this is really helpful. I think I'll give the mi 11 a try, the screen is like a siren call for me. I'll let you know!