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After almost 4 years of this beast its finally time to move on, but I'm not sure if I want to go to the OnePlus 6 (6t is basically the same as the 6 for my needs, except no headphone jack, which I want) or should I get the Pixel 3/3XL. I am leaning towards the 3XL since I'm used to a huge screen, but the 3 doesn't have the notch, which I think could be an eyesore. I have seen great development for the 1+6, but Dirty Unicorns doesn't support the device, but they don't support the Pixel 2 either. Note 9 is in the running, but i think it has a locked bootloader, smaller dev community, and less frequent updates (i'm also on ATT).
So, what do you think I should get? I am likely going to wait for some Pixel 3/3XL reviews before I make the purchase. I don't really care about price.
Xiaomi Pocophone F1 is very popular right now. May turn out to be the 2018 phone with the most custom roms.
Myself, I like the wide screen of my Nexus 6. I don't think there is any other popular phone with as wide a screen as that. But I miss a fingerprint reader.
I came from a long line of nexuses that ended with the Nexus 6P. Held off from the pixels and got me an OP6 on launch day. Price is not a factor for me here. The OP6 is a great phone, believe it or not the software is better than stock Android, it's like a custom ROM on a Nexus phone with all those extra cool stuff. The phone blazes through everything it's crazy fast. However, the camera sucks so bad that it is in usable to me. The speakers are very bad. It lacks that special thing Google phones have . I'm getting the pixel 3XL myself. I cannot live with the OP6 camera.
I'm afraid I'm moving on as well. I chose the pixel 2 xl, as money is a priority for me. i was looking at specs( I live in rainy Washington), and wasn't impressed with waterproofing. Wasn't ready to move on but battery in my 6 wasn't making it through work schedule. I chose pixel (should be here any day now) cause I love updates and not ready to leave Google yet. Nexus 1, Galaxy Nexus, 4 and 6
ONEPLUS SIX .... ACTUALLY, ONEPLUS 6T .... ya might as well wait 2 more weeks for the T-variant to be released.
I'm sure the Pixel 3/XL are damn fine (though hopefully, relatively flawless - I'm purposely leaving out any thing other than the fact I'm not even gonna comment on the XL & it's chin,etc buuut daammmn my Shamu, <xc for side bezels & far superior sOC, other internals of the Pixels> doesn't look as outta date as it actually is .... which is damn near 4 years now, the uneven bezels & other irritants I've found since buying last December [for a respectable $140/mint] definitely detract buuut I'll be damned if the ol sea world corporate orca isn't still holding it's own .... Buuueller? Buuuueller?)
ANYWAYS, TO YOUR INQUIRY, unless you have DEEP pockets for your significant disposable income & want to overlook the superior front design: namely, the rumored but easily believable teardrop front cam (& the almost certain inclusion of an under screen fingerprint scanner & supposed vastly improved camera)>>
[[PARDON ME, A PERSONAL ASIDE .... HEY GOOGLE, JUST EXACTLY WTF IS GOING ON OUT THERE IN MTN VIEW THE PAST, IDFK, 5 YEARS ?!?!?!
THE FUTURE OF SMARTPHONE UI & UX DESIGN SHOULD, SHHOOOULD, HAVE BEEN ALL YOU, BUUUT YOU HAVE SO MANY IRONS IN THE PROVERBIAL FIRE THAT YOU LET SAMSUNG TAKE IT RIGHT OUTTA YOUR VERY CAPABLE HANDS & YOUR BOTTOMLESS POCKETS FROM YOUR ENDLESS FORTUNES ..... AI IS COOL n ALL BUT WHY SCRAP NEXUS FOR THE (cheap) iPOD COPYCAT PIXEL ONE (but the seeds were there to be green instead of ignored ) & CREATE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ECOSYSTEM AS MATERIAL DESIGN IF ONLY TO GET DESTROYED BY SAMSUNG'S NOW UNDENIABLE GLOBAL MARKETPLACE DOMINANCE and their faaaar superior "infinity display" using the world's BEST AMOLED/OLED displays (in fact, SOOOO SUPERIOR that Sammy's hated rival, crApple buy up more of their displays -by the literal ****-TON- than anyone!!!) ???? (Material Design, now, is as fine as she's ever been xc for those 9.0 settings colors, whaaatthaeff guys, at least show some thoughtfulness by using the new Contacts color palette for goodness sake!!!!! Hideous ....) I DIGRESS, YOU ARE THE COMPANY (or damn sure seemed like the across-the-board, trend-MAKERS for a long time before you lost perspective ? At first I didn't understand WTF Samsung was doing with the one sided slant/Edge thing & I ALWAYS hated that stupid APPLE home button BUUUT The SGS-7 Edge actually caught my eye .... Then came the SGS-8 AND HOLY EFFING ****E, THAT'S WHAT SHOULD'VE SHAKEN "OUR FAVORITE COMPANY" OUT OF ITS LETHARGY OF HAVING MADE TOO MUCH DAMNED MONEY, I GUESS BUUUUT ALAS, IT DID NOT ..... I KNOW A LOT OF THOUGHT & BRAINS GO INTO MAKING PIXELS SPECIAL, IT'S JUST THAT THE GOOGLE I KNOW (KNEW?) & LOVE(D?) COULD, WOULD, DAMN SURE SHOULD BE THE INNOVATORS, YOU SHOULD BE SOOOO INSANELY FAAAAR BEYOND MOST OTHER COMPANIES, NOT ONLY IN INTERNAL SMARTPHONE/OS AESTHETICS BUT FFS, APPLE & SAMMY SHHOOOULD BE TRRYING TO COPY YOU AGAIN, LIKE IN DAYS PAST INSTEAD OF YOU GUYS CUTTING CORNERS, TAKING THE BEST OF WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE, MAKING A PASSABLE OVERPRICED MASHUP WITH A GREAT CAMERA (FINALLY, THAT STUNNING CAMERA THAT NONE, NOT ONE, OF THE NEXUS' EVER GOT, WHICH FOREVER RELEGATED THEM FROM MAINSTREAM ALONG WITH EACH NEW NEXUS RELEASE CAME NEW YEARLY ISSUES STEMMING ULTIMATELY, FROM CORNER CUTTING) ..... I am sorry .... I have simply lost the passion with which my initial aside started ....
ONEPLUS SIX - OR - ONEPLUS 6T ..... they're ACTUALLY innovating, they turned this once fledgling company on unsteady footing grab the XDA & former GOOGLE/NEXUS DIE-HARDS by the balls and NOW LOOK WHERE THEY ARE, 2 RELEASES A YEAR, PROLLY THE BEST CURRENT FRONTAL TOP BEZEL SOLUTION, MOSTLY BEAUTIFUL DEVICES WITH ALL THE COOLNESS WE ARE LOOKING FOR IN A SMARTPHONE YET ..... AT A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER PRICE, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RAM, EXPANDABLE STORAGE (??) .... IMHO, ONEPLUS has finally, truly earned the "Flagship Killer" moniker from the not so clear flagship killer OP-1 they'd have you believe back then.
..... I hope that helps instead of hinders .... If so, by all means, disregard & Happy hunting.
I was looking at the 3, but now thinking 2XL when they go on fire sale. Price on the 3 and 3XL is just crazy.
That's a tough call, I am generally a pixel guy, with the freedom of knowing it will be updated monthly and get the quickest platform updates. The 6t looks promising and has a robust dev community from what I can see. I am rocking the pixel 2 (not xl) and the pixel 3 is not super exciting for me. I would go with 6t but I am on fi. Doubt 6t is will be on fi or we would hAve probably heard about it by now. I think the pixel 2/XL are damn good phones and worth picking up on the cheap.
I know it's not on your list and not too high on the media's radar, but the Razor Phone 2 should maybe be another to consider.
- Nexus 6 screen ratio (16:9) which I prefer
- 120hz panel for silky smooth interface
- front facing speakers
- large 4,000 MAH battery
- SD 845 with Adreno 630 GPU
- in place thermal reduction copper plate that acts as a heat sink that is almost the size of the phone.
- 8GB of DDR4 RAM
- no headphone jack, but quality dolby dts DAC
- expandable storage up to 1TB
- hopefully great cameras with new Sony hardware. (Wide angle lens on the 2nd camera)
- wireless fast charging
- QCOM QC 4+
- Treble support
Myself, I'm in no hurry to leave shamu. Running AOSiP 8.1 and getting around 4-5 SOT. This phone, minus the headphone jack, is the only phone to truly provide an actual upgrade to our phone. Plus having expandable storage is awesome. Hopefully the initial impressions and community develops since it has treble support.
I am in the same boat, however I am not beholden to a flagship phone or major company name. If it has everything I need ( everything my shamu has) or more I dont care who makes it..I know there are phones out there every bit as good as the flagships for a lot less money but Ive been a bit out of the loop and not sure what to look at. That being said if the flags are the way to go this time I can do that too. I am on Tmo. I do take my phone mountain biking with me so I think anything bigger than me N6 would be a no. Any recommendations guys?
That sounds really nice. I'll have to look into that one. Would like to get my wife a phone that'll keep up with her for a good while.
wavedashdoc said:
I know it's not on your list and not too high on the media's radar, but the Razor Phone 2 should maybe be another to consider.
- Nexus 6 screen ratio (16:9) which I prefer
- 120hz panel for silky smooth interface
- front facing speakers
- large 4,000 MAH battery
- SD 845 with Adreno 630 GPU
- in place thermal reduction copper plate that acts as a heat sink that is almost the size of the phone.
- 8GB of DDR4 RAM
- no headphone jack, but quality dolby dts DAC
- expandable storage up to 1TB
- hopefully great cameras with new Sony hardware. (Wide angle lens on the 2nd camera)
- wireless fast charging
- QCOM QC 4+
- Treble support
Myself, I'm in no hurry to leave shamu. Running AOSiP 8.1 and getting around 4-5 SOT. This phone, minus the headphone jack, is the only phone to truly provide an actual upgrade to our phone. Plus having expandable storage is awesome. Hopefully the initial impressions and community develops since it has treble support.
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huawei mate 20 X
def1003 said:
huawei mate 20 X
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Not bootloader unlockable.
"find somebody that you think is undeserving of your compassion and give it to them" - Christian Picciolini
ktmom said:
Not bootloader unlockable.
"find somebody that you think is undeserving of your compassion and give it to them" - Christian Picciolini
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not determined yet from what ive found
PURPOSE
So 1st and foremost, the plan here is to give you my first 24-Hours experience with the Nokia 9 PureView compared to some other recent flagship phones I have tried. Granted, I have only used the Nokia 9 for about 24-Hours now and can say I have yet to fully break it in to find everything that may or may not be right / wrong with it. However, this will be a unbiased look and comparison. I'm neither a fanboy or sheep. No brand affiliation. Not a programmer either, just a pro-sumer Senior Member of XDA willing to get trolled, flamed, etc. for sharing a look at this phone. Hopefully, I can give "the everyday guy / gal look" without getting bogged down in stats, variables or benchmarks. Here goes...
MY BACKGROUND
No one special. Just a guy that likes the latest tech... phones being at the top of the list. I am a nerd. No doubt about that. I think anyone that knows about XDA probably is to some extent. No brand loyalty. I have had the privilege to try out the following phones:
1. Samsung S10 128GB / 8GB
2. Google Pixel 3 XL
3. Xiaomi Mi 9 Global Version 64GB / 6GB
4. iPhone XS Max
5. Xiaomi Mi 8 Pro Transparent Global
And probably some more, but these are the most recent. Does that make me qualified to make a review... Maybe. It does make me an idiot that likes new phones, though. I am always looking for something that meets my needs but also is a good phone. Currently with TMobile but have been with ATT, Verizon & Sprint at some point 20 years of using cell phones.
MY NEEDS
I drive about 45 miles each way everyday to work (yes, my work week is currently 7 days a week with a few occasional days off). So, with this in mind and where I drive. I need the minimum requirements:
1. Can Stream Music
2. Android Auto / Apple CarPlay Compatible w/ My 2018 Honda
3. An equalizer of some sort since I have only switch out my new cars speakers for better ones and don't plan on changing or adding a better sound system.
4. Decent pictures when needed
5. Relatively not laggy - will sometimes do some ROM-ing or some customization but since I tend to get rid of the phones quickly I try not to void warranties or make it too non-stock
THE COMPARISON
I am looking at my experience with the Nokia 9 and the other flagships under/around these requirements and some normal stuff like battery, screen, snappiness, camera & software. Here goes:
BATTERY
This has been a hot topic as of late as the larger phones continue to dominate this field (duh... larger phone mean more room for larger battery), however 3340 - 3800 mAh batteries seemed to be the "standard" for phones the size of the Nokia 9. During setup, from 100%, I tortured it setting up all my apps from scratch while on AC-wireless connection... then after all the app downloading, logging apps in and setting up further. I would say a good 5 to 6 hours of heavy use on Wifi drained it to 56% battery... decent performance given the amount of hammering on it I was doing. If normal day away from home is 12 hours with normal use, I feel it goes the distance... Is it a battery champ like the iPhone XS Max, no. Is it one of the better phones in its group like the S10 and Xiaomi Mi 9... you bet. I feel Android One has everything to do with it... More on Android One later.
SCREEN
At a 5.99" OLED at 18:9 aspect, I do feel that the forehead and chin on the phone is a little circa 2017 - 2018. With that said, I do feel it is more pleasant than "Mein Fuhrer" mustache going on with the Pixel XL 3... so much so I had to toggle no notchiness in the developer settings. The "Little Mac" swing and a miss punch out on the Samsung S10 is definitely not my cup of tea ... I found it annoying for one and the fact that they have graphics to swirl around it to make that much more noticeable is even more unsettling. As for the actual screen itself, the colors, brightness and clarity is awesome albeit small especially if you toggle down the screen size in settings... with that, it is a little difficult to manage photos properly with the size of screen. Not impossible but it can try your patience... but the screen itself is definitely better than the Xiaomi Phones and the Pixel 3 XL... the S10 still has the nicest screen but Samsung is getting me annoyed with the continue elongation of the phone... soon it will have a 76:5 aspect ratio... and will look like a Hershey Bar... btw Samsung, don't take design cues from a candy bar company... just sayin'
THE FINGERPRINT SCANNER
Probably the most controversial item on the Nokia 9. Yes it is not great.... I would place it below the scanner in the S10 & Xiaomi Mi 9 but better than the Mi 8.... Pixel 3 XL , you don't count with your don't rock the boat rear sensor... which of course is super fast. Honestly, this tech is not ready for prime time on any of these phones. The S10 comes with a plastic screen protector that makes it hard at first to register the scanner. I felt like I pressing my finger through the display. It did start working decently at about a 90% success rate, after programming fingers a few different time. The Nokia 9 is definitely 75% at best with just one scan of each of my thumbs... as mentioned in different threads, going to add a second scan of each thumb to see of that improves... I feel though that Nokia HMD will patch it to make it slightly better. With facial recognition available, although not as secure, helps for getting into the phone and really the finger print is only needed for the different apps requiring. There's a learning curve for sure to get it to work well but the same goes for the S10... Definitely, not the "deal breaker" everyone's trying to paint... it's the price of new technology
SOFTWARE
Android One to me, besides the Pixel 3 XL and the iPhone XS Max, is in a class of android that Samsung and Xiaomi can't touch. Vanilla Stock Android (for the most part) is a breath of fresh air. Everyone is creaming in their pants that One UI is so much better TouchWiz for Samsung. When your yardstick is the garbage that was TouchJizz, saying One UI is better without qualifying it further is not a great state of affairs. I personally did not find it "that much better" and was immediately looking to replace the launcher with the pixel launcher or similar iteration immediately. I feel as soon as they take away the google assistant screen to the left on the homepage, its a failure... that's of course is a personal preference. Bixby blows... kill him/her off Samsung... and have Bixby take Siri with them... Google Assistant, the swipe left news screen should NEVER be removed... if it happens, then google and android lose a customer for life... just saying... can't wait for timely security updates that will never come to Samsung. Xiaomi on their own do a great job to update. not much to say about their interface other than like most Xiaomi phones... notifications can sometimes be a pain to get to work right due to aggressive battery savings. Xiaomi also does not have the assistant screen to the left :crying: replaced easily with pixel launcher... the S10 was not as easy... could not just use pixel launcher from apkmirror and had to buy action launcher to mimic. The experience of as close to vanilla android on the pixel 3 xl and the nokia 9 just can't be touched. The 6GB phone rocking the 845 performs IMO better than the 855 8GB S10. Even the Xiaomi Mi 9 feels faster than the S10, 845 or 855.
CAMERA
Ok, camera... or as you all know cameras when speaking about any of these phones except you, you "one-eyed monster" pixel 3 xl. Although I haven't put it through the regiment of use cases, The Pentacular camera explosion that is the Nokia 9 is something I'm digging. If your looking for a point and shoot and send master class phone, get the iPhone 8 XS Max, Google Pixel 3 XL or the Xiaomi Mi 9 in that order. For me, Samsung always supposedly has good cameras in their phones but being a person that went to photography school, shot professionally and still cares about the pictures they take... the software non-sense that the S10 does with pixel smoothing, HDR, etc., etc. makes everything no genuine. The other phones too suffer from this at times as well. Don't get me wrong... Night Shot on the Pixel 3 XL is a feet of software magic... quite frankly, google needs to share this tech with other OEMs to make the sustainability of Android that much better. But if your looking for a genuine picture with great image detail and the ability to adjust in-box, the Nokia 9 excels. Yes, you pay for it in processing time. Are you going to want to take this phone to Monaco to caught a F1 car in motion... hell no, but if you want on par caliber shots with a DSLR with RAW Images on outdoor, standard to semi-low light situations... I don't believe there's a camera that compares... for the price... and that leads to...
VALUE FOR YOUR DOLLAR
Although not the cheapest phone, at $600 USD (pre-sale pricing, $700 now), you get a lot of phone for the dollar. The only better value is you just want to go the point, shoot and send route is the Xiaomi Mi 9 at about $530 USD. As always, Samsung at over $800 is not worth it. Not worth it for camera, not worth it for software, design, etc. Samsung Pay to me is the only thing Samsung uniquely has that I wish every phone did. The Pixel 3 XL which I was able to get around $550 was a good value too, but is barely worth it north of $600 buying new. Yes it has the best single shooting camera of practically any phone in its class, but I feel it doesn't run as smoothly as the Nokia 9 with the extra 2GB RAM increase. Of course, Apple cost to value is in a different class... yes the phone is $1100... but you'll also be able to probably sell it in 2 years for $600 as well. Try that with an android phone and you'll get laughed at that it retains 60% value after 2 years. The Nokia 9 packs the right amount of stuff to make it a great value IMO. It would be a slam dunk of course if it had a SD 855 as opposed to 845 but it would be probably $100 more expensive without adding much value. Android One is wonderful and a great choice. Wireless charging (OnePlus, you can't add wireless charging, are you just dumb or what at this point?) The 5 cameras is a great gimmick and works as advertised. Everyone expecting the world out of a $600 phone... it has a better camera then phones $200 - $500 more than what it costs. Can you shoot in a pitch black room... no? Why are you? You creep... you spying on me... it is a little weird
OVERALL
The Nokia 9 is not the phone for everyone. It's the phone for a person that want great value in a phone capable of taking amazingly detailed photos in its price category. Can you point, shoot, send... sometimes. Does the fingerprint reader work ok? Sometimes. Is it a phone pushing some new hardware envelopes in a cost affordable package? Always! The fingerprint reader hate is just that... hate without a 100% justification. Is it an annoyance, it can be... does it overshadow the value of this phone for those of us wanting more from their phone cameras, absolutely not. It is also by no means cutting edge on design... but it doesn't have to be sporting 5 cameras... chins and foreheads are nice when done tastefully (look at Angelina Jolie... maybe not 2019 Angelina maybe circa 2005 Angelina :highfive: ) It not an ugly phone is all I'm saying. Can the big boys in the cell phone game learn something from the once dominate Nokia (actually HMD) is that innovation is needed to remain relevant... think if Apple put 5 cameras on its next phone (would never happen) but what if it did. They'd be like "The Job-biness is Back at Apple" "Apple, the innovators again" and a multitude of other stupid headlines. Lets face it, this phone has a gimmick, a fairly great one but gimmick nonetheless. Will it catch on? Is it years ahead of its time? It just maybe. As always, this is just Some Guys 24-hour Opinion....... :good:
Great first 24 hour impressions
Camera question
Thanks for the review, mine arrives March 18 and looking forward to the camera. The processing time has been mentioned all over the place but I am still unclear as to whether the processing time prevents you from taking the next shot. For example, I would most likely always shoot raw with the full depth turned on. I am more interested in being able to take the next exposure quickly than looking at the last shot on the phone's screen. So, wondering how quickly one can take the next shot.
Thanks!
jhw61032 said:
Thanks for the review, mine arrives March 18 and looking forward to the camera. The processing time has been mentioned all over the place but I am still unclear as to whether the processing time prevents you from taking the next shot. For example, I would most likely always shoot raw with the full depth turned on. I am more interested in being able to take the next exposure quickly than looking at the last shot on the phone's screen. So, wondering how quickly one can take the next shot.
Thanks!
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From experience it doesn't keep you from taking the next shot... I haven't done it with say more than 2 or 3 shots though... don't know how far it will let you go and tell you it can't process anymore. The processing is not unbearable either.... its just kids nowadays, if it isn't ready in 1.5 seconds, time to troll Nokia on a phone that is at least trying to change things up.... :victory:
Google Pixel 4/XL 256GB & Snapdragon 855+ 5G model options would be fantastic!
128GB option has been around since Pixel 1 it's time for more memory options please....
Apple has 512GB models available and Samsung has 1TB models +MicroSD 512GB on top so yeah Google it's time for 256GB+ memory options!
And use the fastest Qualcomm Snapdragon 855+
Anyone here anything on either?
128GB, 855 or 855+ and at least 6GB RAM would be an easy buy
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sounds like you guys are dreaming. google would never lol
alher591 said:
sounds like you guys are dreaming. google would never lol
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Hahahaha you mean no 855, 6GB RAM or 128GB storage? Come on now[emoji1787]
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Tribulation St said:
Google Pixel 4/XL 256GB & Snapdragon 855+ 5G model options would be fantastic!
128GB option has been around since Pixel 1 it's time for more memory options please....
Apple has 512GB models available and Samsung has 1TB models +MicroSD 512GB on top so yeah Google it's time for 256GB+ memory options!
And use the fastest Qualcomm Snapdragon 855+
Anyone here anything on either?
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It's Pixel, so be logical.
So, think of:
- Soli radar chip(surely)with unmatched gestures.(Hoping with assurance).
- 64GB, 128 GB storage. UFS 2.1, UFS 3.0 if we are super lucky.
- 6 GB RAM, LPDDR4.
- SD 855, not 855+.
- Triple camera setup with outstanding performance.
- No eye catchy design, but would be acceptable.
- Less than ideal battery size. (also, not to forget Soli will occupy space).
- Acceptable size and weight unlike many, many other.
- QHD+ resolution.
- 90Hz refresh rate(might he 60 too, if at all it becomes 90, it'll further dent on batterylife, and NO, battery size won't be bigger just for the sake of it).
- Some software bugs right outta box.
- Average charging speed, with about 18W.
- Weirdest naming for all colors.
- Outrageous pricing in some countries.
........etc.
Virgo_Guy said:
It's Pixel, so be logical.
So, think of:
- Soli radar chip(surely)with unmatched gestures.(Hoping with assurance).
- 64GB, 128 GB storage. UFS 2.1, UFS 3.0 if we are super lucky.
- 6 GB RAM, LPDDR4.
- SD 855, not 855+.
- Triple camera setup with outstanding performance.
- No eye catchy design, but would be acceptable.
- Less than ideal battery size. (also, not to forget Soli will occupy space).
- Acceptable size and weight unlike many, many other.
- QHD+ resolution.
- 90Hz refresh rate(might he 60 too, if at all it becomes 90, it'll further dent on batterylife, and NO, battery size won't be bigger just for the sake of it).
- Some software bugs right outta box.
- Average charging speed, with about 18W.
- Weirdest naming for all colors.
- Outrageous pricing in some countries.
........etc.
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Very accurate
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Pixel 4 OR Pixel 4 a
Virgo_Guy said:
It's Pixel, so be logical.
So, think of:
- Soli radar chip(surely)with unmatched gestures.(Hoping with assurance).
- 64GB, 128 GB storage. UFS 2.1, UFS 3.0 if we are super lucky.
- 6 GB RAM, LPDDR4.
- SD 855, not 855+.
- Triple camera setup with outstanding performance.
- No eye catchy design, but would be acceptable.
- Less than ideal battery size. (also, not to forget Soli will occupy space).
- Acceptable size and weight unlike many, many other.
- QHD+ resolution.
- 90Hz refresh rate(might he 60 too, if at all it becomes 90, it'll further dent on batterylife, and NO, battery size won't be bigger just for the sake of it).
- Some software bugs right outta box.
- Average charging speed, with about 18W.
- Weirdest naming for all colors.
- Outrageous pricing in some countries.
........etc.
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You're specs feel very on the light side.... Would be OK if you're talking about Google Pixel 4a would make sense!
So same storage for 4 years in a row.... Same old 18w charging for 4 years in a row.... Very sad...... No reason not to have an 256GB option and have 45w charging technology late 2019.
Updated Snapdragon 855+ should be minimal on Pixel 4/XL as they did with Pixel 1 used the updated Snapdragon 821 must remind you.
I personally you want less specs then you should wait for Pixel 4a..... That's the hole point of the 4a series.
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You're specs feel very on the light side.... Would be OK if you're talking about Google Pixel 4a would make sense!
So same storage for 4 years in a row.... Same old 18w charging for 4 years in a row.... Very sad...... No reason not to have an 256GB option and have 45w charging technology late 2019.
Updated Snapdragon 855+ should be minimal on Pixel 4/XL as they did with Pixel 1 used the updated Snapdragon 821 must remind you.
I personally you want less specs then you should wait for Pixel 4a..... That's the hole point of the 4a series.
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I'm not "expecting" less, I'm talking about what Google does historically. Hardware specs-wise, it's better to keep expectation "little low" - is my whole point and I'm talking 'bout pixel 4/4XL only.
Yeah, never go short on Google's ability to find a way to underwhelm.
Virgo_Guy said:
It's Pixel, so be logical.
So, think of:
- Soli radar chip(surely)with unmatched gestures.(Hoping with assurance).
- 64GB, 128 GB storage. UFS 2.1, UFS 3.0 if we are super lucky.
- 6 GB RAM, LPDDR4.
- SD 855, not 855+.
- Triple camera setup with outstanding performance.
- No eye catchy design, but would be acceptable.
- Less than ideal battery size. (also, not to forget Soli will occupy space).
- Acceptable size and weight unlike many, many other.
- QHD+ resolution.
- 90Hz refresh rate(might he 60 too, if at all it becomes 90, it'll further dent on batterylife, and NO, battery size won't be bigger just for the sake of it).
- Some software bugs right outta box.
- Average charging speed, with about 18W.
- Weirdest naming for all colors.
- Outrageous pricing in some countries.
........etc.
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Pretty much all of the specs have been confirmed. The Pixel 4 XL will have a 3700mAh battery. The Pixel 4 will have a 2800mAh battery. Both will have a 90hz screen screen so basically crappy battery life. There will only be two cameras. The regular and a telephoto. Both are going to be very big. Even the "small" one will be huge. But that's typical these days.
I haven't seen any info on storage type.
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Pretty much all of the specs have been confirmed. The Pixel 4 XL will have a 3700mAh battery. The Pixel 4 will have a 2800mAh battery. Both will have a 90hz screen screen so basically crappy battery life. There will only be two cameras. The regular and a telephoto. Both are going to be very big. Even the "small" one will be huge. But that's typical these days.
I haven't seen any info on storage type.
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Yeah, between soli and the 90hz, the battery should've been a bit bigger. But if it gets through a day, that's all that matters to me. I'm more interested in knowing if it will have UFS 3.0. Internal storage is a thing of the past, thanks to cloud services, so 128gb will be enough for me.
At one point back in the Nexus days I recall Google had the position that 4 hours of screen on was enough for almost all to get through the day and virtually everyone charged daily no matter what level of charge remained. That was then their target goal and probably still is based on their continued arrival at around that level. For me that really is enough charge and yes I do charge every day even with phones that will go longer since it's convenient to charge overnight. I'm a lot more worried about it reopening apps that shouldn't have been dropped out of memory due to lack of the same and GUI redraws when going to the main menu, that sort of thing.
They had also been working on a tech that allowed on the fly refresh rate changes. This would allow for the phone to go to 90 when you wake it up in front of an expected flick through the GUI, while playing a game, etc. The rest of the time when the phone is steady state such as watching a video it can drop back down to 60 to save battery. I'm in no way am saying that this tech is in the upcoming Pix as I've read nothing of the kind. Just saying I know they were working on dynamic refresh and to me that opens up the possibility that it could be in play on this phone until we learn otherwise.
This seems to be the Pixel 4 or 4XL with a new "leaked video".
Yep, they have found reference to the 90 hz refresh in 10 (Q) that specifically points to this device. Also that the refresh is dynamic as I described above; it seems it will have an indicator that tells you what refresh is active and in developer options there will be (could be) some controls for it.
I'm so getting this phone, it's about as done as a deal can get.
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Yeah, between soli and the 90hz, the battery should've been a bit bigger. But if it gets through a day, that's all that matters to me. I'm more interested in knowing if it will have UFS 3.0. Internal storage is a thing of the past, thanks to cloud services, so 128gb will be enough for me.
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A 3700mAh battery is too small even for a phone without Soli and just a 60hz screen. With Soli and a 90hz screen the battery doesn't need to be "a bit bigger" it needs to be MUCH bigger. Like 20% bigger. The Pixel 4 XL really needs a 4500mAh battery.
Getting through a day depends on what you are doing. My Pixel 2 XL, even when it was new, struggled to get through a full day on heavy use days (about 20% of my usage). With a 90hz screen and the Soli chip with a battery that is only 5% bigger than the Pixel 2 XL the battery life of the Pixel 4 XL will likely be worse than the battery life of the Pixel 2 XL which already wasn't great.
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A 3700mAh battery is too small even for a phone without Soli and just a 60hz screen. With Soli and a 90hz screen the battery doesn't need to be "a bit bigger" it needs to be MUCH bigger. Like 20% bigger. The Pixel 4 XL really needs a 4500mAh battery.
Getting through a day depends on what you are doing. My Pixel 2 XL, even when it was new, struggled to get through a full day on heavy use days (about 20% of my usage). With a 90hz screen and the Soli chip with a battery that is only 5% bigger than the Pixel 2 XL the battery life of the Pixel 4 XL will likely be worse than the battery life of the Pixel 2 XL which already wasn't great.
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Google for some reason hasn't learnt how to accommodate bigger batteries.
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Yeah, between soli and the 90hz, the battery should've been a bit bigger. But if it gets through a day, that's all that matters to me. I'm more interested in knowing if it will have UFS 3.0. Internal storage is a thing of the past, thanks to cloud services, so 128gb will be enough for me.
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People were talking the same nonsense about clouds when Nokia released the 1020 with only 32gb and it was called out as BS and proved to be BS.
Especially now when Google and others are data mining.
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People were talking the same nonsense about clouds when Nokia released the 1020 with only 32gb and it was called out as BS and proved to be BS.
Especially now when Google and others are data mining.
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No clue what you're talking about, dude. What "nonsense"? My cloud is device side encrypted. Google isn't mining sheit from me
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A 3700mAh battery is too small even for a phone without Soli and just a 60hz screen. With Soli and a 90hz screen the battery doesn't need to be "a bit bigger" it needs to be MUCH bigger. Like 20% bigger. The Pixel 4 XL really needs a 4500mAh battery.
Getting through a day depends on what you are doing. My Pixel 2 XL, even when it was new, struggled to get through a full day on heavy use days (about 20% of my usage). With a 90hz screen and the Soli chip with a battery that is only 5% bigger than the Pixel 2 XL the battery life of the Pixel 4 XL will likely be worse than the battery life of the Pixel 2 XL which already wasn't great.
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Well, I work, so it's not like I would be sitting in an emo lounge or something, staring at my phone. And I plan on getting the wireless dock for next to my bed. So it will sit on that at home. If I can get 4-5 hrs in-between that, I'm good. I'm more of an idle kind of person, not so concerned about screen on time, as a charger usually isn't far away if needed. But, I agree with what you're saying about the tech. I've been having the same concern, myself. Also, the facial ID will probably hit the battery a bit as well.
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Well, I work, so it's not like I would be sitting in an emo lounge or something, staring at my phone. And I plan on getting the wireless dock for next to my bed. So it will sit on that at home. If I can get 4-5 hrs in-between that, I'm good. I'm more of an idle kind of person, not so concerned about screen on time, as a charger usually isn't far away if needed. But, I agree with what you're saying about the tech. I've been having the same concern, myself. Also, the facial ID will probably hit the battery a bit as well.
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I actually mostly agree with you. I'm in the same position as you about 80-90% of the time. At work I don't have time to constantly be on my phone even if I wanted to and I have a charger at my desk. Battery life isn't a problem in that case.
It's the other 10-20% of the time that's the problem. In that other 10-20% of the time I could be using my phone heavily taking pictures/video, playing music over Bluetooth, using LTE all day, having to make the screen brighter when outside, using location, watching video, long phone calls, etc. Pretty much any phone can handle the 80% easily. I want a phone with battery life that can hold up to that other 10-20% of usage. And be able to still do it well after a year of owning the phone. Very few phones (if any) can really handle that 10-20% of my usage.
Also, I don't know if you've ever had a phone with wireless charging before but my advice is to avoid it. It's terrible for the battery. Just my advice based on my own research and personal experience.
You can manually force to 60 hz if the leaks prove correct and I'd be surprised if Soli couldn't be disabled but haven't seen anything on it yet. I think it's a little early to worry about battery being worse than the previous Pixels because of them.
I´m really pissed off about every single reviewer saying that Google should included ultrawide instead of telephoto lens and that´s why I had to write this post. I remember back in 2016 when LG G5 included wide angle camera no one cared about it and know it´s a must have feature. I used an OP 7 Pro and Iphone 11 Pro before Pixel 4 XL and guess how many times I actually used ultrawide? Only once on each phone in 3 months of usage. My opinion is that ultrawide is just a gimmick just like 50x zoom or 100xzoom bull**** from Huawei and Samsung.What do you think?
I was thrilled to have zoom over ultrawide.
Sorry but the ultrawide is very useful. It's why I've been using a Sirui wide angle lens since my Pixel 2 XL and now now my Pixel 4 XL. It's great for tight areas where you can't move back any further. And it's also great for videos because the regular lens has a pretty decent crop.
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My wife busts my balls every other day cause my phone doesn't have it. Lol I think since I've never used it I don't miss it...
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Sorry but the ultrawide is very useful. It's why I've been using a Sirui wide angle lens since my Pixel 2 XL and now now my Pixel 4 XL. It's great for tight areas where you can't move back any further. And it's also great for videos because the regular lens has a pretty decent crop.
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So why are you using Pixel if it´s that important to you?
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So why are you using Pixel if it´s that important to you?
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Because it's not a deal breaker. The still camera and user experience are the two main things I look at. I have an external wide angle lens that gets the job done but it is inconvenient. Why can't I be a Pixel owner that wishes it had all three focal points when all other flagships that came out in 2019 did?
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Because it's not a deal breaker. The still camera and user experience are the two main things I look at. I have an external wide angle lens that gets the job done but it is inconvenient. Why can't I be a Pixel owner that wishes it had all three focal points when all other flagships that came out in 2019 did?
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You remember that Pixel had only one lens until Pixel 4 and it was still the best camera on the market? Also no one complained about it when all the other flagships had 2 or 3 lenses and now when they actually included second telephoto lens people are complaining about now having third ultrawide lens. My point is that they could go with only one improved lens and it would still be the best camera on the market.
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You remember that Pixel had only one lens until Pixel 4 and it was still the best camera on the market? Also no one complained about it when all the other flagships had 2 or 3 lenses and now when they actually included second telephoto lens people are complaining about now having third ultrawide lens. My point is that they could go with only one improved lens and it would still be the best camera on the market.
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People didn't complain with the Pixel 1 because 3 focal lengths wasn't a standard back then in 2016. In 2019, the Pixel 4 was the ONLY flagship phone that didn't have all 3. My point is that yes it's got a great still camera but for charging $799 for the 4 and $899 for the 4 XL, it was bit overpriced for getting less. And I'm not just talking about less cameras. We got smaller batteries, less bright screen, less internal storage, less video recording options, slower fast charging. Me being such a fan of the Pixel line, STILL kept my purchase and I made compromises with each of the "lesser" areas but we shouldn't have to. Or the phone should've been a lesser price to begin with instead of penalizing early adopters.
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People didn't complain with the Pixel 1 because 3 focal lengths wasn't a standard back then in 2016. In 2019, the Pixel 4 was the ONLY flagship phone that didn't have all 3. My point is that yes it's got a great still camera but for charging $799 for the 4 and $899 for the 4 XL, it was bit overpriced for getting less. And I'm not just talking about less cameras. We got smaller batteries, less bright screen, less internal storage, less video recording options, slower fast charging. Me being such a fan of the Pixel line, STILL kept my purchase and I made compromises with each of the "lesser" areas but we shouldn't have to. Or the phone should've been a lesser price to begin with instead of penalizing early adopters.
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I agree you with you about the prices and less storage(64GB is still enough for most of users tho) but I can´t agree with you about battery life and slower fast charging. Nexus and Pixel phones was never intented to be phones for average consumers and I guess they´ll never be.They are for people who will root their phones and install custom kernels immediately after getting one.I did that with every Nexus and Pixel phone I had and experience is 10/10 after that. As of slower charging(18W is still fast enough for me as it charge my phone from 0 to 40-45% in 30 minutes) it´s actually better becuse battery won´t degrade so quickly.
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I agree you with you about the prices and less storage(64GB is still enough for most of users tho) but I can´t agree with you about battery life and slower fast charging. Nexus and Pixel phones was never intented to be phones for average consumers and I guess they´ll never be.They are for people who will root their phones and install custom kernels immediately after getting one.I did that with every Nexus and Pixel phone I had and experience is 10/10 after that. As of slower charging(18W is still fast enough for me as it charge my phone from 0 to 40-45% in 30 minutes) it´s actually better becuse battery won´t degrade so quickly.
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You're still living in the Nexus past. Google's Pixel line has been for the general consumer hence why they spend millions on advertisements. And general consumers don't care about battery degradation. They see a phone that gets to to 80% in 30 minutes versus a phone that gets to 80% in 60 minutes, which are they going to choose? They see a phone with 3700 mAh versus a phone with 4100 mAh or greater, which are they going to choose? And 64 GB is not enough when we have 4K video recording. Yes I've made my compromise with Google Drive full quality backup but 128 GB should've been the base. Google's not Apple to make that 64GB still standard. They're in the Android world of devices that offer 128GB at same or lesser price.
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Don't care about the ultra wide. There's other ways around it that are just fine. Screw reviewers, I can't stand watching them anymore.
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You're still living in the Nexus past. Google's Pixel line has been for the general consumer hence why they spend millions on advertisements. And general consumers don't care about battery degradation. They see a phone that gets to to 80% in 30 minutes versus a phone that gets to 80% in 60 minutes, which are they going to choose? They see a phone with 3700 mAh versus a phone with 4100 mAh or greater, which are they going to choose? And 64 GB is not enough when we have 4K video recording. Yes I've made my compromise with Google Drive full quality backup but 128 GB should've been the base. Google's not Apple to make that 64GB still standard. They're in the Android world of devices that offer 128GB at same or lesser price.
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Yeah maybe they want it to be the phone for average consumers but only in USA to compete with Apple. Here in Croatia and most of the Europe probably 80% of average consumers never heard of Pixel phones and I know that beacuse I work in telecommunications. Samsung and Huawei dominates here for years now.
Overall I care less about either a telephoto or an ultrawide than I do having a great main sensor (wouldn't trade P4 camera for the S20 for example)
BUT the ultrawide is more useful than telephoto and wouldn't have detracted anything from the experience, google not including it is literally just them being cheap
I was disappointed that there wasn't an ultrawide, even though it wasn't a dealbreaker. A friend had gotten the new iphone around the same time and his ultrawide was impressive and useful. For everyday shots, I think the ultrawide is alot more useful, especially in group shots. For zoom shots, I have a real camera for that because zoom generally requires better lenses, motion stabilization, etc in order to get good shots -- so I didn't really need it on my pixel.
For what the phone is ultrawide, among other things is a miss. Google continues to hamstring themselves and then wonder why they don't move enough phones. All the points EeZePeZe pointed out are valid, Google should make three tiers like Apple (can't believe I said that out loud), there should be a high end, great screen, BIG battery, more/faster storage, ultrawide camera, all the bells and whistles, you get it for $1,000-$1200. Then a middle of the road "good" phone$650-$750 range and a price point phone $400-$500. That new iPhone is going to sell really well from the looks of it.
I don't agree with the 3 tier idea. At the time of introduction this phone was selling as a flagship phone for flagship money and flagship phones are called that for a reason; they come loaded with all the latest goodies that can be packed into the frame. That is what makes a flagship a flagship and flagship and no excuses can be made, it either is or it is not. I've had the wide and didn't use it outside of a couple of tryout pics. Just not my thing so I don't miss it but that doesn't mean I give the phone a pass in terms of what it should be based on it's intended flagship status and price. Google should have thrown it in, it's really that simple to me. Flagship phones selling for flagship money have wide angle cameras and this was sold as a flagship phone and at flagship prices and should be able to carry that freight.
In my mind they need to pack actual flagship specs if they want to play in that market or move down market and sell at a lower price point. When you think about it they have been doing the latter for years as long as you wait a month and then buy it. Don't get me wrong, I love Pixel phones based on the experience and they are excellent cameras for taking the kinds of shots I take but this phone is not a flagship and should have gone on the market for the price they're now selling for which is 300 or more under MSRP. As a way of putting into perspective the experience on the 3a Xl was much the same but the price was very different.
I wish I had it tbh
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I don't agree with the 3 tier idea. At the time of introduction this phone was selling as a flagship phone for flagship money and flagship phones are called that for a reason; they come loaded with all the latest goodies that can be packed into the frame. That is what makes a flagship a flagship and flagship and no excuses can be made, it either is or it is not. I've had the wide and didn't use it outside of a couple of tryout pics. Just not my thing so I don't miss it but that doesn't mean I give the phone a pass in terms of what it should be based on it's intended flagship status and price. Google should have thrown it in, it's really that simple to me. Flagship phones selling for flagship money have wide angle cameras and this was sold as a flagship phone and at flagship prices and should be able to carry that freight.
In my mind they need to pack actual flagship specs if they want to play in that market or move down market and sell at a lower price point. When you think about it they have been doing the latter for years as long as you wait a month and then buy it. Don't get me wrong, I love Pixel phones based on the experience and they are excellent cameras for taking the kinds of shots I take but this phone is not a flagship and should have gone on the market for the price they're now selling for which is 300 or more under MSRP. As a way of putting into perspective the experience on the 3a Xl was much the same but the price was very different.
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We agree Google should be adding in all the flagship specs so who cares if there are three tiers or not we already have two? As it stands they offer a "flagship priced" (initially) phone that is really in the "good" category and an "A" version that is their price point phone. They just need a true highend specced phone to appeal to more of a buying segment. I just don't understand whomever it is that makes these hardware decision for Google when there is so many examples of effective marketing to borrow from.
I'm a die-hard pixel user and I really miss not having a wide-angle. I I have the moment case and a couple lenses, looking to buy the superfish right now. The wide-angle is great IMO. I do wish video quality was close to iPhones though. I honestly never use the zoom lens.
No, telephoto over wide angle any day whether DSLR or phone.
Good evening,
I have been using the Google Pixel 6 for more than a year and am basically satisfied with it. However, I think that an upgrade is necessary. Would the Pixel 7(a) be recommendable here? The only thing that has bothered me about Pixel 6 is dark scenes in videos. Black pixels are lit up in a funny way and yet you can't see much in the videos. Otherwise, I am also open to other brands with good price-performance ratio.
I am grateful for any advice and opinion!
Welcome to XDA.
In general the improvements from year to year aren't that much; not much bang for the buck unless you get a really good trade-in deal.
I'm still using my Note 10+ and in many ways it's superior to the newest Samsung's and not much slower in actual normal usage. Nitpicking over a couple pixels for a cam upgrade isn't worth all that trouble. Pro cam shooters rarely upgrade their cam every year or two...
Bottom line; depends how deep your pockets are.
If you don't upgrade expect to replace the battery soon, routine maintenance, no big deal.
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Welcome to XDA.
In general the improvements from year to year aren't that much; not much bang for the buck unless you get a really good trade-in deal.
I'm still using my Note 10+ and in many ways it's superior to the newest Samsung's and not much slower in actual normal usage. Nitpicking over a couple pixels for a cam upgrade isn't worth all that trouble. Pro cam shooters rarely upgrade their cam every year or two...
Bottom line; depends how deep your pockets are.
If you don't upgrade expect to replace the battery soon, routine maintenance, no big deal.
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Thank you very much for your opinion!
In the Google Telegram channel I got recommended that I wait until October for the Pixel 8. Let's see what that brings, except for the unnecessary built-in fever thermometer.
I replaced my P6 with a P7 after it was accidentally damaged beyond repair. I can barely tell the differance. The phones seem to drop in price quite a bit about 3 or 4 months after their release, so if you can wait til the end of January most of the early bugs will have been worked out and the price will have dropped by at least $100.
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I replaced my P6 with a P7 after it was accidentally damaged beyond repair. I can barely tell the differance. The phones seem to drop in price quite a bit about 3 or 4 months after their release, so if you can wait til the end of January most of the early bugs will have been worked out and the price will have dropped by at least $100.
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You benefit by waiting not only in a reduced price but by seeing if any unsolvable hardware bugs are present. I would give it 6 months. Use independent reviews here, on utube and Reddit to better guage the actual performance and any issues that crop up with the device.
Look at the mess some of the S23U owners are having with the banana shaped optical blurring with their main cam. It's not just Samsung, both Android hardware and firmware are more shake & bake then ever. When people are in a big bad hurry... mistakes happen. Sit back, observe then pick the device that will best fullfill your mission if you have that luxury. A good flagship should last you many years.
Just upgraded to the Pixel 7 from the 4xl. Only real improvements I see is less bezel, updates install faster, and slightly better camera. May return the 7 and stick with the 4xl a bit longer.
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Just upgraded to the Pixel 7 from the 4xl. Only real improvements I see is less bezel, updates install faster, and slightly better camera. May return the 7 and stick with the 4xl a bit longer.
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Do the Google phone vs phone vid search. A 2019 flagship can hold up well to the newer phones. Replace battery as needed and keep rollin.
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Just upgraded to the Pixel 7 from the 4xl. Only real improvements I see is less bezel, updates install faster, and slightly better camera. May return the 7 and stick with the 4xl a bit longer.
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I've never used the 4xl but I like its lens spec. With newer Pixels I'd rather not resort to digital zoom for avoiding distortion. 7 Pro answers that but only if prices drop enough.
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Good evening,
I have been using the Google Pixel 6 for more than a year and am basically satisfied with it. However, I think that an upgrade is necessary. Would the Pixel 7(a) be recommendable here? The only thing that has bothered me about Pixel 6 is dark scenes in videos. Black pixels are lit up in a funny way and yet you can't see much in the videos. Otherwise, I am also open to other brands with good price-performance ratio.
I am grateful for any advice and opinion!
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I had a Pixel 6 since they were announced and was very happy with it except for the fingerprint reader. I work with wood a lot and it seems to screw up my fingerprint mightily. I basically abandoned the fingerprint reader and just used a PIN. When the Pixel 7 arrived, I traded-in my Pixel 6 and got a Pixel 7. I am very happy with face unlock and that I don't have to deal with the fingerprint reader anymore. I can't say anything about the 7A, but the Pixel 7 screen is very much like the Pixel 6. In fact, I think of my Pixel 7 as a "Pixel 6, refined." There might not be enough difference in the screen to make it worth it. Same with the cameras. Again, this relates only to the Pixel 7, not the Pixel 7A.
I went from the 6 to 7. It was a lateral but very needed upgrade. Much more stable.
I plan to get a 7 real soon as I found a nice deal on it. Leomgrass color
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I went from the 6 to 7. It was a lateral but very needed upgrade. Much more stable.
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No need to wait I guess if I found a good deal yea? I mean wait till later this year for the new one