Android Auto: USB and DAC - Android Auto General

Hi
I'm using Android Auto with a Note 9 connected to a Kenwood DNX9190DABS head unit. Everything works well.
My understanding of the audio process involved is as follows: the USB-C output from the phone is digital and by-passes the phone's DAC. The crucial element in terms of audio quality is therefore the head unit's DAC..
I'm thinking of substituting another phone for the Note 9 so I can keep the Note 9 as a phone and therefore not need to connect it each time I use the car. My plan is to buy a cheaper / older phone to use as a dedicated music player in the car with the only criterion being that it works with Android Auto.
My question is this: is the audio quality of digital output from USB pretty much the same whatever the phone with the head unit DAC remaining the crucial element or does a higher end phone have better digital audio output?
Thanks.

Have you tried AAGateway from Emil?
I'm using Galaxy S3 as gateway and use my S10 over wifi hotspot, the audio is the same quality as USB directly

It doesn't matter what phone you use, as long as it's compatible with the USB DAC (not all are).
The phone won't be processing the music.

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peca89 said:
I'm not sure about your LG, but my Sony correctly re-routes audio from Chromecast to SPDIF (optical) output connected to AVR, so the Chromecast isn't a problem. I'm not sure about analog RCA output though.
Just go through your TV settings again. There must be an option burried somewhere in menus.
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Thanks for your reply, I did go through all the settings on the TV and even read the manual. But couldn't find anything there. Its not a very high-end TV, hence no optical output, all I have is that stereo analogue output.
Few minutes after posting I again connected my new notebook, and a Windows 8 tablet, audio works fine with all of them. But the Chromecast just doesn't work the same way. When I tested I connected all devices to the same HDMI port and didn't change anything on the TV, all I did was plug one in > test > unplug > plug the next one in > test etc.. that's all.. the fact that everything but the Chromecast work has to mean there is something different in Chromecast's HDMI signal.
PhoenixFx said:
Thanks for your reply, I did go through all the settings on the TV and even read the manual. But couldn't find anything there. Its not a very high-end TV, hence no optical output, all I have is that stereo analogue output.
Few minutes after posting I again connected my new notebook, and a Windows 8 tablet, audio works fine with all of them. But the Chromecast just doesn't work the same way. When I tested I connected all devices to the same HDMI port and didn't change anything on the TV, all I did was plug one in > test > unplug > plug the next one in > test etc.. that's all.. the fact that everything but the Chromecast work has to mean there is something different in Chromecast's HDMI signal.
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Try switching the audio output in whatever application you're casting from to Stereo.
If Chromecast is sending multichannel audio, your TV might be smart enough to decode and play it on its speakers, but not smart enough to downmix to the analog output.
PhoenixFx said:
Here is my set-up:
A Vivo LTV42FHDN 42” Full HD TV (2x HDMI inputs, 1x RCA stereo audio output, few other audio and video input connectors, and a set of really crappy built-in speakers)
A Logitech 2.1 Speaker system connected to TV's RCA audio output
An old DELL XPS M1330 notebook running Windows 7 hooked up to the TV via one HDMI port
A new Chromecast I’m trying to setup connected to the other HDMI port.
When I watch TV and switch to the HDMI input of the PC I get audio through both the TV’s crappy built in speakers as well as the much better sounding Logitech Speakers. However, when I switch to the Chromecast I only hear audio through TV’s built-in speakers. I have connected other PCs and tablets through HDMI before and from what I recall, sound always came out external speakers.
Is there any reason for the PC and Chromecast to behave differently when connected via HDMI ? I tried both HDMI ports, went through TV's audio settings (which only has very few settings like bass, treble, and some sound profiles), but couldn't get the chromecast to output audio through external speakers.
Does this mean Chromecast doesn’t support somesort of an HDMI specification/standard my old PC does, therefore the TV can't split and reroute the audio ? Is there any way to get around this without buying new hardware ? Other than audio, rest of it works great ! For me spending $50 or so extra on additional hardware really defeats the purpose of buying a Chromecast, because for that price I could've bought a DLNA enabled media player.
Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Hi,Were you able to resolve this problem? Chromecast works great except for this exact same annoying problem. Also have the same TV. Thanks.

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