I have an SM-N960U from T-Mobile, flashed with the US Unlocked SM-N960U1 firmware that I am running on Verizon. The vendor agnostic firmware does not have all of the screens the carrier-specific screens do, so it's not straightforward to determine what is and isn't working. If I go into Airplane Mode, and turn on Wi-Fi, I cannot call, so we know Wi-Fi Calling doesn't work. However, whether or not Wi-Fi calling works, has zero to do whether or not VoLTE/HD Voice is working. Wi-Fi calling is not a cellular technology, it is VOIP and requires the wireless carrier to also become a VOIP provider, which requires a "home" address of the device for 911 purposes. There certainly is no technical relationship between the two, and it is a service independent of wireless communications. For a wireless provider, the VoWiFi part is working with the phone to switch the data stream, depending on the signal availability, without dropping the call. VoLTE also has nothing to do with whether or not the calling party has VoLTE. All one could say is if the calling party has digital voice of some kind, such as VoLTE, VOIP, or T1, that the call will be clearer because data put into the VOIP packets would be better.
I came up with an idea and found an app called "Force 4G LTE" to prove whether or not VoLTE is active. After installing "Force 4G LTE", besides showing everything about the phone, its displays bands, and signal strength, it also displays menus used by some of the carriers that showed a toggles for Mobile Mobile Radio Power, and VoLTE, Video Calling, and Wi-Fi Calling were all toggled on as provisioned. When I clicked on Advanced, the missing Mobile Networks menu shows up with a toggle for turning VoLTE Calls, which was toggled on. It did not display a Wi-Fi Calling menu. What I didn't expect is the "Force 4G LTE" app enabled me to force any protocol I choose, not just LTE. I forced LTE, and unlike with Wi-Fi calling, it worked.
IT_Architect said:
I have an SM-N960U from T-Mobile, flashed with the US Unlocked SM-N960U1 firmware that I am running on Verizon. The vendor agnostic firmware does not have all of the screens the carrier-specific screens do, so it's not straightforward to determine what is and isn't working. If I go into Airplane Mode, and turn on Wi-Fi, I cannot call, so we know Wi-Fi Calling doesn't work. However, whether or not Wi-Fi calling works, has zero to do whether or not VoLTE/HD Voice is working. Wi-Fi Calling uses VoWiFi, which is VOIP/SIP, and operates under an entirely different set of rules that was around before cell phones had the ability to participate. VOIP might not even use the same voice encoding protocols. The best you could say is, if you have Wi-Fi calling, the odds of you also having VoLTE are greater. There certainly is no technical relationship. VoLTE has nothing to do with whether or not the calling party has VoLTE. All one could say is if the calling party has digital voice of some kind, such as VoLTE, VOIP, or T1, that the call would be clearer because the VOIP used to transmit their call between their provider and yours had better data to work with.
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So I had a few misunderstandings from reading your post. It's most likely me! If you are referring to just having Voice over IP/Data connection, yes it will work no matter what for you as long as you have a data connection.
If you are meaning True VoLTE, then both parties have to have the feature running and functioning. Unfortunately there's no way to know if VoLTE is truly on unless you run a line interceptor or trace from the carrier for two known calls that are currently connected and active. That would be illegal either way. I wouldn't recommend trusting the HD icon that shows when you're connected on a call because we have tested it at work and found that even when on Edge(yeah it still exists), it still said HD even though the quality was trash.
Just my 2 cents from my limited knowledge of working in telecom for a short stint. I still do but not as in depth.
The other thing about VoLTE is it's pretty much just voip but the protocols are indeed different. I use a grenade to fish, you use a net, end of the day, we still fishin. ??*??
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I use a grenade to fish, you use a net, end of the day, we still fishin. ??*?
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A man after my own heart. Grandpa used to fish with grenades. I couldn't get my hands on them, so I made spear guns or water proof fuses and pipe bombs. Who cares whether or not the fish are hungry. :laugh:
apart from the logo in the status bar near the time(that you may or may not see depending on csc setting file) and the branding when u get lr make a call,has an HD logo on the caller card screen, and of course you can litteraly hear it. its cristal clear and very noticable. its like mono vs stereo.
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A man after my own heart. Grandpa used to fish with grenades. I couldn't get my hands on them, so I made spear guns or water proof fuses and pipe bombs. Who cares whether or not the fish are hungry. :laugh:
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does crocodile dundee ring a bell? are you related?
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apart from the logo in the status bar near the time(that you may or may not see depending on csc setting file) and the branding when u get lr make a call,has an HD logo on the caller card screen
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I have no such indicators. What I did notice, and might the only clue you get with the Unlocked US firmware, is that I noticed LTE+ shows on the status bar for a while at the beginning of the call, and then goes away.
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and of course you can literally hear it. its crystal clear and very noticeable. its like mono vs stereo
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That depends if the party you are connected to is digital.
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does crocodile dundee ring a bell? are you related?
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Well...Sue IS my mom's name. :laugh:
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Unfortunately there's no way to know if VoLTE is truly on unless you run a line interceptor
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That is a packet sniffer. You have to be rooted to use one off those. I've set up people with VOIP systems and I also did the microwave links, and fought with cities over fiber links. The problem with VOIP is there is no copper "last mile" so you need to specify an address for 911. Locating a caller with VOIP has been shaky for a long time because it became common for a corporate switch to serve satellite plants using the Internet. It requires programming the switch to tie the extension to a location. You still need to do that with cell phones but now it's getting laughable because it moves, and worse, more than one device can service the same number, so it can also be in more than one place at the same time. They are going to have to add something to both VOIP and VoWiFi that uses the GPS at the SIP endpoint, which may still have some flies in the ointment, but at least likely.
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I have no such indicators. What I did notice, and might the only clue you get with the Unlocked US firmware, is that I noticed LTE+ shows on the status bar for a while at the beginning of the call, and then goes away.
That depends if the party you are connected to is digital.
Well...Sue IS my mom's name. :laugh:
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That is a packet sniffer. You have to be rooted to use one off those. I've set up people with VOIP systems and I also did the microwave links, and fought with cities over fiber links. The problem with VOIP is there is no copper "last mile" so you need to specify an address for 911. Locating a caller with VOIP has been shaky for a long time because it became common for a corporate switch to serve satellite plants using the Internet. It requires programming the switch to tie the extension to a location. You still need to do that with cell phones but now it's getting laughable because it moves, and worse, more than one device can service the same number, so it can also be in more than one place at the same time. They are going to have to add something to both VOIP and VoWiFi that uses the GPS at the SIP endpoint, which may still have some flies in the ointment, but at least likely.
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carrier voip (volte) has no such requirement from the user device side. because u are still using their infrastructure which they own and maintain. Wificalling on the other hand does 100% because the wifi you are using is not carrier owned nor managed. so you need to enroll and provide 911 info like actual adress and contact info and consent that if death occurs its not on them because localization is not insured.
as of late i have deactivated wifi calling as for the reason it exists, its actually giving me poorer calling experience. i dont know if theres is something wrong with the phone's policy but using the setting to prefer the mobile line, i often find the device doing calls over wifi regardless of the good mobile signal connection. but its been a while so ill test it out again.
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so i just tested it and when wifi is weak wifi calling disables amd when strong it reenables.
the policy is strange it should have this behavior on weak cell signal and not on weak wifi signal...
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So LTE+ indicates VoLTE and LTE+= indicates carrier aggregation. I did not know that.
EDIT: I JUST figured out our conversation. I said maybe the LTE+ that I saw during my phone conversation was an indication of VoLTE, since LTE+ is the first version with VoLTE support. Your answer states the added + indicates carrier aggregation, implying that it doesn't mean LTE+ features. For some odd reason I interpreted your response that the equal sign would be in the display. Maybe it was taking a day off and catching up on my sleep that made the difference.
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So LTE+ indicates VoLTE and LTE+= indicates carrier aggregation. I did not know that.
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LTE = Regular operatiin single band.
LTE + = MULTI band operation( 2 or more)
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I use my nexus one on ATT - in my area, there are two antennas.. ATT's "preferred" antenna which barely gets any signal at all (resulting in dropped calls every couple of minutes), and there's a "roaming" antenna which gives me full signal and works great. The problem is that when I'm on the roaming (good) antenna, the phone gets a tiny bit of signal from the "preferred" (bad) antenna, switches me over then my calls drop.
I had a Palm Treo which had a hack to manually select the antenna I wanted to use, which worked GREAT. Does a similar hack exist for the nexus one/android?
interesting.... didn't know we can select antennas
there should be a way to hack radio module to allow cell tower override, i have exactly same problem. there are three cells around my house, one nearby and two far away. for some stupid reason phone switches to different cell tower and i lose my network.
in battery use, i have cell standby as my biggest battery hog. cell standby over 25%
I'd be willing to pay for this hack.
has anybody ever found a way to do this?? I just moved further out into the country to get away from the city, and i am one tower too far away to be in the local calling area to all my contacts. lol and i know I'm BARELY into the other towers coverage area. So, if i could tell my phone to stay locked on to a particular tower, and actually get a signal (It switches towers when i still have 3 bars of signal, and I live about a mile further down the street from where it switches) I can avoid long distance charges. I haven't been able to find anything anywhere to be able to do it, but I may be using the wrong search terms. I'm not completely up to snuff on most technical terms. Thanks in advance.
I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
can anybody confirm this? what antenna on N1???
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I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
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U could very well be correct! Sounds logical. I've been exploring a handful of VoIP options that ya can use from your Android/WM device using your Data connection/WiFi.
I spent a bunch of time reading and researching, and just installed one called Nettalk. No local phone number for incoming calls, but the app is free, and u can make calls to anywhere to/from any Canadian area. The app looks just like the regular dialer, and works pretty decent. So, when somebody calls, I'll just select 'reject call with message' (if calling from a cell) and say I'll call rite back, or if calling from a land line, I'll just send it to voicemail and call back and presto... problem solved. There are a few other options available, where u pay anywhere from $5 a month, to $30 a month and you still using your Data/WiFi connection, but u get a local calling number for contacts to call, and doesn't matter where your phone is, it will receive the call free of long distance charges. Problem is, i haven't found any that have the city I'm from in their numbers database. So for now, I'm going to see how this system works out.
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I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
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Both the handset and the base station "handle" hand offs. The handset has a programmed minimum signal level, below which it will essentially request a hand off if one is available. The network can switch the handset to another tower for load balancing or other reasons if it determines that the handset (or the carrier's business interests) is better served by another tower. It's a two way system. If the network wants to move you on to another tower, but the phone won't get a lock, you stay on the original tower.
The problem with the OP is that his SIM (which is programmed with carrier preferences) keeps pushing him off roaming and into the actual AT&T network. Basically, AT&T has its network set up so that any level of AT&T signal is preferable to any level of roaming. It does that to save money on roaming costs, since AT&T handles you for free while you're on their system, but has to pay a few cents to have the roaming partner host you.
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I think Tasks can do that.
samsung has that feature but i have to find for other handsets
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
raazman said:
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
Ingenium13 said:
Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Alright, that sounds pretty simple. Thanks!
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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I am on sprint and will get my N6 when it come out. I'm hoping they do the same for sprint as well for WiFi calling support. I know that on sprint they don't count against ur minutes or text... And sprint has unlimited LTE ...
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On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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Why don't you use hangouts to call?
raazman said:
Why don't you use hangouts to call?
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
Sprint has WiFi calling on some models already also so it's probably close to the same for all
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
Edit: https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
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WHAT?!?!?! I feel like my whole life has been a lie!!! Haha! But in all seriousness, I thought that was only for people with Google Voice numbers. But after doing a quick Google search, it looks like you only need a GV number to RECEIVE said calls. Wow. I feel so dumb right about now. Thanks for enlightening me, guys!
I have been told that the M9 does not support advanced wifi calling. I'm not sure about my terminology, but what I mean is that it cannot hand a wifi call off to the LTE/HSPA network.
However I have just finished demonstrating that it does hand off without dropping the call, and to the HSPA network. I had noticed this behavior the other day, but in a discussion in an article on fiercewireless, i was told this is technically impossible.
My M9 is set to wifi calling, wifi preferred, and when I make the call in the driveway, the dialer says "wifi call", the call connects and the phone icon in the statusbar is green, and the phone beeps at me with a message that I'm near the edge of the wifi calling area and the call may drop. I drive away, the call never drops, the beeping/message stop, and the green phone icon in the statusbar becomes white. And I'm connected to "4G", not 4G LTE.
Who told you it didn't support it?
I myself, don't like the feature. Especially when I have little to no service, it'll constantly be searching for service(draining my battery) when I'm connected with WiFi calling.
Hoping it'll be able to be disabled in custom ROMs.
I think the screen name was Fabian and it was in the discussion about Sprint offering the international data like T-Mobile. He seems to be knowledgeable and was adamant that this is not possible. I think he said it's only possible on the iPhone 6. Aside from that, I myself thought it was impossible for a WiFi to hspa handoff, yet this is what I'm seeing.
Hopefully they make it official since it does work
I'm pretty sure I read that this was a new feature. . . I'll look for the source I read this from.
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It's a new feature with the S810.
Wish it'd give you the option...
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Have u guys seen the aggressive Wi-Fi to cellular handover setting in developer settings?
not sure what to think I never use Wi-Fi call just thought I'd share. Because it might help those that have calls dropped. Worth a shot to check the box and try.
T-Mobile (re)enabled wifi/cell handoff with Uncarrier 8 several months ago. A decent LTE connection is required for the handoff but nearly every LTE handset can do so (coming to the Nexus 6 Real Soon Now.)
The Sprint person is incorrect, but a their wifi calling implementation is, quite frankly, bizarre, so I'm not surprised at their being clueless over T-Mobile's.
Nothing unique about the HTC One m9's wifi calling except it being on a really great handset.
please help me for enabling volte, I have reliance jio sim (INDIA), I installed jaguar rom even though call is not going .
Nihas61 said:
please help me for enabling volte, I have reliance jio sim (INDIA), I installed jaguar rom even though call is not going .
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There are several factors that may affect Volte:
1. Your provider may have restricted Volte only to their own devices
2. The frequency they use volte on may not be supported by the phone
3. You may require IMS credentials from your carrier
4. Your device may require modem upgrade, which is not available.
Look at Volte discussion on Z2-Z3 threads. You may need to install LP stock firmware and use a special app to select Volte modem that is already in baseband, but not activated and then return to Jaguar.
All I have said in my thread is that Volte is supported on Android side...
Nihas61 said:
please help me for enabling volte, I have reliance jio sim (INDIA), I installed jaguar rom even though call is not going .
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Same problem Looking from many days
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There are several factors that may affect Volte:
1. Your provider may have restricted Volte only to their own devices
2. The frequency they use volte on may not be supported by the phone
3. You may require IMS credentials from your carrier
4. Your device may require modem upgrade, which is not available.
Look at Volte discussion on Z2-Z3 threads. You may need to install LP stock firmware and use a special app to select Volte modem that is already in baseband, but not activated and then return to Jaguar.
All I have said in my thread is that Volte is supported on Android side...
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1. its not applicable for jio jio sim not device restricted.
2. Jio Supported LTE bands Available In C6903 So it also not.
3. Its also not coz jio open for all no need any credentials just insert sim in any phone.
I think 4th is possiblility of jio not working. hardware wise Xperia Z1 supports VOLTE so i thik its needed modem patch also. any idea? Its possible coz we are using international Phone?
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Same problem Looking from many days
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1. its not applicable for jio jio sim not device restricted.
2. Jio Supported LTE bands Available In C6903 So it also not.
3. Its also not coz jio open for all no need any credentials just insert sim in any phone.
I think 4th is possiblility of jio not working. hardware wise Xperia Z1 supports VOLTE so i thik its needed modem patch also. any idea? Its possible coz we are using international Phone?
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Hey , does the Jio4GVoice app work for you cuz for me the call cuts out just as soon as I make it. Also what kinda speeds do you get?? I get around 150-250kBps...barely-- LTE ought to be faster.
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Hey , does the Jio4GVoice app work for you cuz for me the call cuts out just as soon as I make it. Also what kinda speeds do you get?? I get around 150-250kBps...barely-- LTE ought to be faster.
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You can only have high definition calls when both devices have a working Volte. If the other phone doesn't have it (which about 95% don't), you are limited by the quality coming from the other phone. In other words, the channel you are on is wide enough for HD, but if no HD is coming from another phone, there is no Volte quality. It is going to take years and new devices for this to work...
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You can only have high definition calls when both devices have a working Volte. If the other phone doesn't have it (which about 95% don't), you are limited by the quality coming from the other phone. In other words, the channel you are on is wide enough for HD, but if no HD is coming from another phone, there is no Volte quality. It is going to take years and new devices for this to work...
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Bro, you don't seem to understand the situation with Reliance Jio; its a brand new 4G ONLY carrier with NO 3G/2G fallback. Which means that if your phone doesn't have VoLTE then you can't make a phone call. To circumvent this problem , Jio made an app - Jio4GVoice , which lets you make calls and send messages even if you don't have VoLTE . But that app isn't working for me. I just wanted to know if this is a common problem with the Z1.
P.S: can someone confirm that band 40 works if I unlock it using olokos' method?
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Bro, you don't seem to understand the situation with Reliance Jio; its a brand new 4G ONLY carrier with NO 3G/2G fallback. Which means that if your phone doesn't have VoLTE then you can't make a phone call. To circumvent this problem , Jio made an app - Jio4GVoice , which lets you make calls and send messages even if you don't have VoLTE . But that app isn't working for me. I just wanted to know if this is a common problem with the Z1.
P.S: can someone confirm that band 40 works if I unlock it using olokos' method?
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Try to see if the app can be configured. If you can place a call and then it cuts off once the other party picks up, you may not have enabled the correct codec.
In my view, having a Volte only network is stupid. The company probably is cutting corners to save money. Also, check LTE speed, I bet you are not going to have high speed at all. I have read Reliance's website: looks like too much hype...
Edit: Again, the only benefit of having Volte is high definition audio and video. And neither would work unless both phones are Volte and on the same network. If you don't have that, you have no benefit of Volte. Here is the same from the Indian Express::
"HD Calling is being touted as a major feature of the VoLTE saga, but there is a caveat. Calls are in HD only if the parties engaged in a phone call are both on Reliance’s Jio network The call has to originate and terminate on a VoLTE enabled handset. You can still make and receive calls from other networks, but they won’t be in the higher quality standard that you can expect from a VoLTE call."
http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/reliance-jio-4g-volte-technology-heres-how-voice-calls-will-work/
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Try to see if the app can be configured. If you can place a call and then it cuts off once the other party picks up, you may not have enabled the correct codec.
In my view, having a Volte only network is stupid. The company probably is cutting corners to save money. Also, check LTE speed, I bet you are not going to have high speed at all. I have read Reliance's website: looks like too much hype...
Edit: Again, the only benefit of having Volte is high definition audio and video. And neither would work unless both phones are Volte and on the same network. If you don't have that, you have no benefit of Volte. Here is the same from the Indian Express::
"HD Calling is being touted as a major feature of the VoLTE saga, but there is a caveat. Calls are in HD only if the parties engaged in a phone call are both on Reliance’s Jio network The call has to originate and terminate on a VoLTE enabled handset. You can still make and receive calls from other networks, but they won’t be in the higher quality standard that you can expect from a VoLTE call."
http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/reliance-jio-4g-volte-technology-heres-how-voice-calls-will-work/
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No , the app doesn't have much config options .
Sometimes , the phone I call rings half a second and then cuts out other times it just cuts out out without anything.
I've tried it and volte doesn't work on jaguar ROM. Any ideas??
Your right though the avg DL speed is around 200kBps where I live which ain't nothing to write home about for an LTE network . Then again our Z1 doesn't support band 40 out of the box and that's supposed to be jio's high speed band. But jio is totally free till Dec 31st and well voice calls are free forever. So being able to make a phone call with this sim is kinda important
masterofnocrack said:
No , the app doesn't have much config options .
Sometimes , the phone I call rings half a second and then cuts out other times it just cuts out out without anything.
I've tried it and volte doesn't work on jaguar ROM. Any ideas??
Your right though the avg DL speed is around 200kBps where I live which ain't nothing to write home about for an LTE network . Then again our Z1 doesn't support band 40 out of the box and that's supposed to be jio's high speed band. But jio is totally free till Dec 31st and well voice calls are free forever. So being able to make a phone call with this sim is kinda important
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Volte is a sip call, which requires 1 mb to connect and 3-4 mb for a reasonable quality. 200 kbps, which is gprs, is simply not enough to carry voice.
optimumpro said:
Volte is a sip call, which requires 1 mb to connect and 3-4 mb for a reasonable quality. 200 kbps, which is gprs, is simply not enough to carry voice.
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Hmm ... Maybe that's the reason . But my friends have no problem with that app. That's why I need to know if this is a Z1 specific problem.
Oh and I'd like to point out that its actually 200kBps.
Hey
I'm in an unsupported country, and so my warranty is not relevant anyway
I dont care about 5G,and probably not call screening either
Im wondering if its worth rooting the phone just for volte and vowifi, and maybe adaway(although with Vanced and Brave i dont see too many anyway)
So you think it's worth the hassle of the root,magidisk, and manual updating every update for it?
Did you felt like it makes a real difference?
Since volte and vowifi are not only related to the firmware, but also to your provider, it doesn't help to unlock these options, as long as your provider doesn't support it. Sometimes it even depends on your tariff, if volte and vowifi may work. So first get in contact with your provider...
While volte just improves the sound quality of a phone call, vowifi may help you
indoors, where massive concrete walls may lead to the situation of having no signal, while a wifi network is accessible...
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Since volte and vowifi are not only related to the firmware, but also to your provider, it doesn't help to unlock these options, as long as your provider doesn't support it. Sometimes it even depends on your tariff, if volte and vowifi may work. So first get in contact with your provider...
While volte just improves the sound quality of a phone call, vowifi may help you
indoors, where massive concrete walls may lead to the situation of having no signal, while a wifi network is accessible...
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Hi
Does services are supported by my provider, its only the licensing issues between the provider and google
Also, does wowifi allows also inbound calls while im out service, or only outbound calls?
Wowifi should work in both directions. I don't understand: Licensing issues between provider and google do not allow volte/vowifi but your provider supports it anyway? So it works on Iphone, but not on Android??
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Wowifi should work in both directions. I don't understand: Licensing issues between provider and google do not allow volte/vowifi but your provider supports it anyway? So it works on Iphone, but not on Android??
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Its works for Samsung and Apple, because the network provider paid them for the license
In Israel, Pixels aren't that common, so its not worth for the carriers to pay the fee to Google
But if we say i have enough coverage, so you think it's worth rooting?
If you've got some experience with flashing, I would recommend to root the phone. I often had the experience of phone calls with low signal, which I found very uncomfortable...