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Security updates???

Hey guys,
I have a Note 8 that i bought from Verizon, since i got it, i never received a security update. Currently its on August security patch. We're almost in December. Is this just my phone? Or is this happening with everyone?
My friends have s8's and seems like they are getting security updates. Hell, i think my wife's s7 has more current security patch then i do.
Thanks.

tolymatev said:
Hey guys,
I have a Note 8 that i bought from Verizon, since i got it, i never received a security update. Currently its on August security patch. We're almost in December. Is this just my phone? Or is this happening with everyone?
My friends have s8's and seems like they are getting security updates. Hell, i think my wife's s7 has more current security patch then i do.
Thanks.
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Have you gone in and tried to update it manually?

jason504 said:
Have you gone in and tried to update it manually?
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I've tried to go into settings and refresh/search for updates, says "your software is up to date"

Same here. Samsung completely forgot about Note series. S8 already has 3rd Oreo beta. And Note8 is stuck on August security patch.

Same with the unlocked model from BestBuy. I returned mine four days ago for a refund because of this.

No I am on Att and I got 2 updates so far. I have had the phone since September 7th.
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Guess it depends on your carrier

No updates for me. Still on August security patch.
It's embarrassing how they threat their most expensive model.

Misterxtc said:
Same with the unlocked model from BestBuy. I returned mine four days ago for a refund because of this.
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I would usually say that it's not a good idea to return a phone because of the lack of updates. But.. latest model, high price and S8 got Oreo. So I understand You. I'm considering switching to Pixel 2XL but literally everyone is complaining about problems with that phone. Not just review websites but xda and people on Telegram too. And here getting a repair is almost impossible. They take Your phone ask for 80% of the phones price to fix it and if You disagree then You have to go to court and eventually after 8 months You will get Your phone or money back. So if my Pixel would have any problems I would be.. yeah.. then I saw Mi Mix 2 for $600 6/128 model.
But I guess I will just wait 1-2 more weeks and we will get new beautiful Oreo with even more improvements(UI, features) than Oreo for S8. Hopefully it will be worth waiting.
But Samsungs behaviour is really disappointing.

ProtoDeVNan0 said:
I would usually say that it's not a good idea to return a phone because of the lack of updates. But.. latest model, high price and S8 got Oreo. So I understand You. I'm considering switching to Pixel 2XL but literally everyone is complaining about problems with that phone. Not just review websites but xda and people on Telegram too. And here getting a repair is almost impossible. They take Your phone ask for 80% of the phones price to fix it and if You disagree then You have to go to court and eventually after 8 months You will get Your phone or money back. So if my Pixel would have any problems I would be.. yeah.. then I saw Mi Mix 2 for $600 6/128 model.
But I guess I will just wait 1-2 more weeks and we will get new beautiful Oreo with even more improvements(UI, features) than Oreo for S8. Hopefully it will be worth waiting.
But Samsungs behaviour is really disappointing.
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That's definitely disappointing. If that was the case here I would stick with the Note seeing it took four tries to get a nice display on the 2XL that didn't bother my eyes at night. It was a tough choice but I was lucky and got a good one this time. If Samsung and Google joined forces they could easily make the best phone. I really hope to see the Note 8 on Oreo soon or at least up to date with the security patches like my wife's S8+ is.

The most recent Note8 firmware is BQJA, which came out last week. It has the Oct 1 Android patch level. If your phone has older firmware and won't update, contact your carrier's tech support. They may be able to push the update to your phone.

Samsung is back at it again I would say (like what happened with US unlocked S7 Edge) ... Last year I bought S7 Edge Olympic Edition which I needed to dump because of lack of updates. Now I have unlocked US Note 8 variant. This "no updates" kind of reminds me of my S7 Edge OE days ... Samsung is really pushing my patience ... I might dump my phone (and my gear s3) and get something different because this is getting ridiculous ...

Yall better check with your carrier before blaming Samsung. Because I have 3 friends that have a Note 8 on ATT and we all have had updates.

The same in the international variant N950F. Since the first Update in September no more updates. Still on August Security Patch, but in the Fota Test Servers are an actually firmware

jason504 said:
Yall better check with your carrier before blaming Samsung. Because I have 3 friends that have a Note 8 on ATT and we all have had updates.
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Mine is unlocked, N-950F EU Netherlands and also still on the August patch.

gee2012 said:
Mine is unlocked, N-950F EU Netherlands and also still on the August patch.
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I understand that it is unlocked but you still have a service provider. Your service provider has dropped the ball not Samsung.

jason504 said:
I understand that it is unlocked but you still have a service provider. Your service provider has dropped the ball not Samsung.
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I bought a no-provider retail model and i get my updates from Samsung, not from my provider. I have the Dutch PHN firmware variant.

jason504 said:
I understand that it is unlocked but you still have a service provider. Your service provider has dropped the ball not Samsung.
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How can you blame our carriers when we purchased a unlocked version? These should have the update first because it isn't modified by the carriers. If we are running the unlocked firmware our service provider will not update it. That falls strait in the lap of Samsung.

Misterxtc said:
How can you blame our carriers when we purchased a unlocked version? These should have the update first because it isn't modified by the carriers. If we are running the unlocked firmware our service provider will not update it. That falls strait in the lap of Samsung.
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All that unlocked means is that you can use the phone with any carrier. Once you have it turned on through whatever carrier you use then the carrier pushes the update from Samsung to you. Which is the reason some people have received updates and others have not.
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If I am wrong ain't it funny how everyone on ATT has all there updates? Tmoblie too.

jason504 said:
All that unlocked means is that you can use the phone with any carrier. Once you have it turned on through whatever carrier you use then the carrier pushes the update from Samsung to you. Which is the reason some people have received updates and others have not.
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If I am wrong ain't it funny how everyone on ATT has all there updates? Tmoblie too.
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I`am sorry but what you say is total BS, at least for the EU.

jason504 said:
All that unlocked means is that you can use the phone with any carrier. Once you have it turned on through whatever carrier you use then the carrier pushes the update from Samsung to you. Which is the reason some people have received updates and others have not.
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If I am wrong ain't it funny how everyone on ATT has all there updates? Tmoblie too.
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You are wrong. I would have to Odin the Verizon firmware to get Verizon updates. I did it and went back to the unlocked firmware and there are no updates via ota or Smartswitch.

SAMSUNG Galaxy Note 8 (SM-N950F) Android 8 Oreo (beta) update?

Hello, is here a chance to install Android Oreo (beta) on SM-N950F? Thanks for answer.

Not until they release he Exynos version of Oreo. If you flash the Snapdragon version it's bricksville for you...

always late
Why samsung do take so long for updating the new firmwares??!!! Is there a chance to get it now?
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Not until they release he Exynos version of Oreo. If you flash the Snapdragon version it's bricksville for you...
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Nonis said:
Why samsung do take so long for updating the new firmwares??!!! Is there a chance to get it now?
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1. Cos they can...
2. No...

I haven't received an update since I bought the damn thing in Sept. ****e.

blame your carrier, not samsung

UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
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jadaress1 said:
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
Sent from my SM-N950F using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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for a carrier free device this is strange! are you on stock fw, or did you root your device?

jadaress1 said:
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
Sent from my SM-N950F using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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YES IT DOES! For UN-branded FW, ALL carriers must approve that FW for release!

Nonis said:
Why samsung do take so long for updating the new firmwares??!!! Is there a chance to get it now?
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Because Sammy OS is heavily modded to their linking so it will take time for them to get it all up and running and then testing and then some more testing.

jadaress1 said:
UK unlocked haven't received any update since September, nothing to do with carriers
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Maybe you haven't check it. Because since November I bought it I had received 3 updates. Last one yesterday.

wase4711 said:
blame your carrier, not samsung
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why, I bought it directly from Samsung!

henklbr said:
YES IT DOES! For UN-branded FW, ALL carriers must approve that FW for release!
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If this is true, it makes perfect sense.
Not questioning your knowledge or honesty, but can you substantiate this statement, articles, links, 'knowledge base'?
Thanks

bonerp said:
why, I bought it directly from Samsung!
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carriers release updates to use on THEIR network; it doesnt matter one bit who you bought the phone from..
thats common knowledge in the cellular world.. Google is the only sometimes "exception", but if their phones are sold by any carrier, i.e. when t mobile sold the nexus 6, it was T Mobile who released/approved updates, NOT Google

wase4711 said:
carriers release updates to use on THEIR network; it doesnt matter one bit who you bought the phone from..
thats common knowledge in the cellular world.. Google is the only sometimes "exception", but if their phones are sold by any carrier, i.e. when t mobile sold the nexus 6, it was T Mobile who released/approved updates, NOT Google
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it does matter.
in Europe, if you don't get your phone through a carrier you get the F model.
while other variants get their updates through the carrier, F models always get their updates directly from Samsung.
until the note 8 the unbranded models(like the F models) where always first to get updates, because no carrier approval is needed.
edit: correction.
there are carrier specific F models, the carrier branding is in the csc in those cases.
any phone bought from Samsung directly or a store that isn't tied to a carrier will always have an "unbranded" csc in Europe.

thedicemaster said:
it does matter.
in Europe, if you don't get your phone through a carrier you get the F model.
while other variants get their updates through the carrier, F models always get their updates directly from Samsung.
until the note 8 the unbranded models(like the F models) where always first to get updates, because no carrier approval is needed.
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there are carrier specific F models, the carrier branding is in the csc in those cases.
any phone bought from Samsung directly or a store that isn't tied to a carrier will always have an "unbranded" csc in Europe.
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Agree, for SM-N950F
XSA got update several days ago, but VAU just got update today

Hmm, it seems something is coming soon -> https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyNote8/comments/7o5vao/so_the_exynos_note_8_at_work_randomly_got_oreo/

Official Android 9 update date

So Huawei have (finally) released a date for the official EMUI 9 update for the mate 10/10 Pro and P20/P20 Pro. They state the update will begin on the 18th of December in Singapore. Sadly, they did not mention a date for Europe, or any other regions :/
The article in hand: https://consumer.huawei.com/sg/pres...i-9-0-release-date-in-mate-10-and-p20-smartp/

MrCDizzle said:
So Huawei have (finally) released a date for the official EMUI 9 update for the mate 10/10 Pro and P20/P20 Pro. They state the update will begin on the 18th of December in Singapore. Sadly, they did not mention a date for Europe, or any other regions :/
The article in hand: https://consumer.huawei.com/sg/pres...i-9-0-release-date-in-mate-10-and-p20-smartp/
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Hopefully Singapore is a C636 model.

Hopefully the statement is for a Worldwide release and so for C636, C432...

I kinda doubt that it's for worldwide release, Huawei has a habit of "saying" one thing and doing another, so don't hold your breath waiting for the update. As usual of course the US version of the mate 10 pro (BLA-A09) probably won't see it at all.

revjamescarver said:
I kinda doubt that it's for worldwide release, Huawei has a habit of "saying" one thing and doing another, so don't hold your breath waiting for the update. As usual of course the US version of the mate 10 pro (BLA-A09) probably won't see it at all.
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Yep. All major sites reported Global rollout started early last month. Where is the update.
A big difference between China and Global rollout.
Huawei has been abysmal with updates. People can cheer how good the hardware is, with the prices they are asking for their newer phones without good software support not gonna even consider it.

Exactly
RabidWolve said:
Yep. All major sites reported Global rollout started early last month. Where is the update.
A big difference between China and Global rollout.
Huawei has been abysmal with updates. People can cheer how good the hardware is, with the prices they are asking for their newer phones without good software support not gonna even consider it.
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You're right with that one, I took a chance on buying the mate 10 pro (US model) figuring that they would honor what they had previously stated about issuing timely updates for their devices, man was that a mistake. No matter how good the hardware is if a company doesn't support their products it's a deal breaker for sure, I won't be buying any more of their products.

Monthly security updates, added night shot and face unlock, and most likely Pie in 2018, don't know what you people are complaining about.
US model owners is just bad luck that 2018 was the year geopolitics made Huawei untenable, the rest of us are getting great, regular updates.

revjamescarver said:
You're right with that one, I took a chance on buying the mate 10 pro (US model) figuring that they would honor what they had previously stated about issuing timely updates for their devices, man was that a mistake. No matter how good the hardware is if a company doesn't support their products it's a deal breaker for sure, I won't be buying any more of their products.
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The reason is maybe because you want to MAGA :laugh:

revjamescarver said:
You're right with that one, I took a chance on buying the mate 10 pro (US model) figuring that they would honor what they had previously stated about issuing timely updates for their devices, man was that a mistake. No matter how good the hardware is if a company doesn't support their products it's a deal breaker for sure, I won't be buying any more of their products.
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The way things are going, I would be very surprised if future Huawei devices are officially available to US customers.

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zayidhs said:
The reason is maybe because you want to MAGA :laugh:
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What a troll, wrong forum for political bull****.
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ghostofcain said:
The way things are going, I would be very surprised if future Huawei devices are officially available to US customers.
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Yeah, you're probably right on that one. Would be a big mistake on their part though as the US is a large market segment to just abandon. Not too many people will buy the international models that don't have a warranty, these things are too expensive for that.

revjamescarver said:
Yeah, you're probably right on that one. Would be a big mistake on their part though as the US is a large market segment to just abandon. Not too many people will buy the international models that don't have a warranty, these things are too expensive for that.
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Wouldn't be a mistake to them. The US government is actively trying to push Huawei out. There's no point gambling on the US market if the government can kick them with a flick of their wrist. Also, Huawei is not popular in the states. They are probably burning money trying to gain market share. If they don't see a good future, rather exit and cut their losses now than lose more in the future for no gain.

I will change to the Chinese region then, because now I'm in the European​

Now EMUI 9 official rolling out on mate 10 pro c636 in Thailand.

SidewayMngneer said:
Now EMUI 9 official rolling out on mate 10 pro c636 in Thailand.
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Yep. I just checked and it is now showing new version available OTA.
C636 Australian version.

RabidWolve said:
Yep. I just checked and it is now showing new version available OTA.
C636 Australian version.
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But I can't Enable OEM Unlock like EMUI 9 Beta

SidewayMngneer said:
Now EMUI 9 official rolling out on mate 10 pro c636 in Thailand.
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What is version number? 9.0.0.159??

sampei said:
What is version number? 9.0.0.159??
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Correct.

FF show me it's approved for my singapore mate 10 c636!!
Yey

Yea I really am wondering when will I get emui 9.0 in the middle east

It is now available in Middle east C185

OnePlus 7 Pro 5G (EE/UK) Updates

Has anyone found out or received any information on updates regarding the UK's 5G OnePlus 7 Pro? Currently on Oxygen OS 9.5.3.GM27BA.

What did you need to know? I've had mine since launch day.

akhan47 said:
What did you need to know? I've had mine since launch day.
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Same, but there haven't been any major updates. The 4G model is two updates ahead already. Seems like they are just selling the 5G model for money without offering any support for it. Just wanting to know if there is gonna be any update anytime soon, and which update are they gonna give us, because being a few updates behind is rediculous.

PhoneUser148 said:
Same, but there haven't been any major updates. The 4G model is two updates ahead already. Seems like they are just selling the 5G model for money without offering any support for it. Just wanting to know if there is gonna be any update anytime soon, and which update are they gonna give us, because being a few updates behind is rediculous.
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Ah, I see. I'm on 9.5.3 which it was updated to on day 1. Haven't had any issues at all though so not too fussed about an update...

akhan47 said:
Ah, I see. I'm on 9.5.3 which it was updated to on day 1. Haven't had any issues at all though so not too fussed about an update...
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Just seems a bit unfair with the 4G model is getting updates to the camera and other fixed, and then people with the 5G model which is the more expensive device is just getting left out. If they want to make 5G the future of smartphones they should offer more support on the device.

OxygenOS 9.5.4.GM27BA should be the next update according to this
https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/andro...mmit/510ad8fb042c4a87e10f18e5c158361c36238c11

Would converting the 5g phone to international Allow updates since 9.5.7 is now out....
Bit annoyed that the updates are slow too considering the last 2 have related to improving the camera
If so is the only way to do it to root it?

Everyone needs to keep expectations in line with the situation we have here.
There is only 1 place in the entire world that has the 5G Pro device in use.
So updates will be tested on Non 5G and then ported over to 5G.
The camera i version 9.5.1 5G is the same as 9.5.4 non 5G.
So i expect the same here, 9.5.7 upates to be included in 9.5.4 5G.
However seeing as the source code was uploaded 3 days ago and still no OTA it must mean EE are testing all updates and delaying it.
So I dont think its OnePlus problem.
Once the device is no longer exclusive then we may be able to use EU 5G updates on our phones.

I believe the way to works is OP will give an update to ee they will then test it, report any bugs back to OP to fix and then approve the update and then it will go out. EE have always been slow with updates.. Well for Samsung they have been. My pixel 3xl updated straight from Google.

Why do EE need to be testing this? I would understand it if the phone had custom firmware on it by EE but they don't. The phone is no different from the standard device all be it with the 5g modem.

Very frustrating, really want the camera improvements.

Is it possible to put this version into the global version of updates like the t mobile version has been done?

Zairs said:
Is it possible to put this version into the global version of updates like the t mobile version has been done?
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I don't think this will work, there are some differences in the firmware. You may loose some functionality.

hpsauce37 said:
Why do EE need to be testing this? I would understand it if the phone had custom firmware on it by EE but they don't. The phone is no different from the standard device all be it with the 5g modem.
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Still waiting......
Seen somewhere that you can flash it as a 4g device might look into that as 5g isn't available where I am ATM so not loosing anything then could flash the 5g rom once 5g more available....
Ee fastest network in the UK till it comes to updates
Op ain't much better ATM about 5g device had no answers about updates or when ee exclusive deal expires

Let hope for some updates soon it's quite bad we haven't had the camera updates

its been 2 weeks since last update and nothing yet i wish i waited and got non 5g now

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its been 2 weeks since last update and nothing yet i wish i waited and got non 5g now
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Same here dude. 5G owners are basically treated like we don't exist.
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goofylad said:
Still waiting......
Seen somewhere that you can flash it as a 4g device might look into that as 5g isn't available where I am ATM so not loosing anything then could flash the 5g rom once 5g more available....
Ee fastest network in the UK till it comes to updates
Op ain't much better ATM about 5g device had no answers about updates or when ee exclusive deal expires
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Is that even possible to put a 4g rom on the 7 pro 5G ?

texrex10 said:
Is that even possible to put a 4g rom on the 7 pro 5G ?
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I think you will lose any reception. Because of the different Bands.
But it's discussed several times in many threads...

Forget Pie updates. They were waiting to bring you 10:
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...us-7-pro-and-oneplus-7.1105492/#post-20777225

OnePlus 7T pro 5G coming to TMobile

https://www.t-mobile.com/devices/5g-phones?icid=WMM_TMNG_C_19NETWRK5G_JXY3B6IVGF90PZUQV18612_HP

Yea i think im going to upgrade, i love the color accents , and itll be a lil bit of an upgrade from my OP7PRO
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Depending on the price, I may be all over this. I would be upgrading from a 6t

Only difference from 7Pro is a little better CPU . The storage is down to 128gb instead of the 256gb I have. Is the Snapdragon 855+ worth it to upgrade ?
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Also only the 7T is coming to TMobile right now. There is no 7T Pro till later this year and that is going to be the 7T Pro Mclaren . No release date for the McLaren yet .

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Only difference from 7Pro is a little better CPU . The storage is down to 128gb instead of the 256gb I have. Is the Snapdragon 855+ worth it to upgrade ?
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Also only the 7T is coming to TMobile right now. There is no 7T Pro till later this year and that is going to be the 7T Pro Mclaren . No release date for the McLaren yet .
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Correct. The T-Mobile 7t Pro McLaren went up for "pre register" today. They no longer have the 7 Pro available. So yes, 12gb ram, quad hd screen, and 256gb storage is an upgrade over the 7t, which is the only other OnePlus device currently available on T-Mobile

I've already pre-registered as well. Was about to pull the trigger on the 7 Pro since I was so disappointed in the Pixel 4. Glad I waited.
QUICK QUESTION:
Going back to the Nexus 5 days, I've always bought my Nexus/Pixel phones outright directly from Google. This will be my first phone that isn't a Nexus/Pixel. I'm assuming this will only be available through the T-Mobile store, and not directly through OnePlus. If so, is there any benefits if I pay for the phone all upfront with T-Mobile. I'm assuming that gets rid of the SIM lock, but what about updates and everything. Does that automatically switch the software from the locked down T-Mo one to the OnePlus update track? Or would I have to unlock the bootloader and switch to the international version software to get updates directly from OnePlus? Thanks in advance!

charesa39 said:
I've already pre-registered as well. Was about to pull the trigger on the 7 Pro since I was so disappointed in the Pixel 4. Glad I waited.
QUICK QUESTION:
Going back to the Nexus 5 days, I've always bought my Nexus/Pixel phones outright directly from Google. This will be my first phone that isn't a Nexus/Pixel. I'm assuming this will only be available through the T-Mobile store, and not directly through OnePlus. If so, is there any benefits if I pay for the phone all upfront with T-Mobile. I'm assuming that gets rid of the SIM lock, but what about updates and everything. Does that automatically switch the software from the locked down T-Mo one to the OnePlus update track? Or would I have to unlock the bootloader and switch to the international version software to get updates directly from OnePlus? Thanks in advance!
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Paying it off will NOT switch it to international software. I believe Your updates will still come from T-Mobile unless you go through the unlock process with both TMobile and OnePlus.Keep in mind, since there is technically no international version of the 7t Pro 5G McLaren because it is currently going to be a T-Mobile exclusive, I don't know how that will work as far as "converting" it to international software goes. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong

When you pre registered did you get any indication of price yet?

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When you pre registered did you get any indication of price yet?
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I pre registered and no indication of price

I pre registered too for the 7T Pro McLaren ! I have the 7 Pro right now .

Ryano89 said:
Paying it off will NOT switch it to international software. I believe Your updates will still come from T-Mobile unless you go through the unlock process with both TMobile and OnePlus.Keep in mind, since there is technically no international version of the 7t Pro 5G McLaren because it is currently going to be a T-Mobile exclusive, I don't know how that will work as far as "converting" it to international software goes. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm wrong
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Dang! I completely overlooked that aspect of it. You're right, as there probably won't be an unlocked version of the ROM to switch to in the US. So I'd be completely at the mercy of T-Mo when it comes to updates and bloatware EVEN AFTER PAYING IT ALL OFF UPFRONT!!! That sucks... I'm used to getting updates straight from the source with Google phones, and absolutely hate the additional "features" carriers put on their version of the phones.. That's the reason I buy my phones outright upfront. But more importantly, I like having the factory image in case something goes awry. Especially since I want to unlock and root using Magisk. I'm assuming the factory image wouldn't be available through T-Mobile either... Now I'm contemplating if I should just get the 7 Pro straight from OnePlus just for the added peace of mind. Hmm...
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When you pre registered did you get any indication of price yet?
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Unfortunately, no. In fact, I never even received any email indicating I pre-registered...

charesa39 said:
Dang! I completely overlooked that aspect of it. You're right, as there probably won't be an unlocked version of the ROM to switch to in the US. So I'd be completely at the mercy of T-Mo when it comes to updates and bloatware EVEN AFTER PAYING IT ALL OFF UPFRONT!!! That sucks... I'm used to getting updates straight from the source with Google phones, and absolutely hate the additional "features" carriers put on their version of the phones.. That's the reason I buy my phones outright upfront. But more importantly, I like having the factory image in case something goes awry. Especially since I want to unlock and root using Magisk. I'm assuming the factory image wouldn't be available through T-Mobile either... Now I'm contemplating if I should just get the 7 Pro straight from OnePlus just for the added peace of mind. Hmm...
Unfortunately, no. In fact, I never even received any email indicating I pre-registered...
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It's possible that the OnePlus 7t Pro rom could work, I just don't know if the 5g modem would make it incompatible or not

Also, Pre registered on T-Mobile for the 7T Pro McLaren. I'll be interested in the price, release date, trade in, etc.

Ryano89 said:
It's possible that the OnePlus 7t Pro rom could work, I just don't know if the 5g modem would make it incompatible or not
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Hmm... Maybe. I'll probably wait then to see if there is a solution to switch it to the international version. I wouldn't even care about losing 5G connectivity if everything else worked and I could get updates straight from OnePlus. 4G is perfectly fine with me for now. At least until 5G matures. I've been reading so many negatives about T-Mobile's lag in updates vs the unlocked models.

Careful with OnePlus and 5G - they are not reliable.
The 7 Pro 5G hasn't been getting support, we have no open betas and threads get closed/ignored on their forums.
Sources don't get updated so there is no custom ROMs or Kernels that work on this device.
6/6T got Android 10 before we even have a promise of it.

iRhyiku said:
Careful with OnePlus and 5G - they are not reliable.
The 7 Pro 5G hasn't been getting support, we have no open betas and threads get closed/ignored on their forums.
Sources don't get updated so there is no custom ROMs or Kernels that work on this device.
6/6T got Android 10 before we even have a promise of it.
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Thank you, that's good to know. Although the McLaren 5g will launch with 10 on it, I'm concerned about future updates

Ryano89 said:
Thank you, that's good to know. Although the McLaren 5g will launch with 10 on it, I'm concerned about future updates
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As am I. Won't pay full for. If there is a trade in deal then I'll get it. Otherwise there's no incentive.

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As am I. Won't pay full for. If there is a trade in deal then I'll get it. Otherwise there's no incentive.
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Yeah, if they're banking on the 5G connectivity as an incentive, they're sadly mistaken. Especially considering they only have it in like 6 cities throughout the US right now.

charesa39 said:
Yeah, if they're banking on the 5G connectivity as an incentive, they're sadly mistaken. Especially considering they only have it in like 6 cities throughout the US right now.
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Yea I could care less about 5g. Home and work I get over 100mbps with 4g. I just want that McLaren phone. The trade in on OnePlus 6t last year was incentive enuff and I got it. The 7t, 0 incentive so it's still sitting on TMobile shelf. If McLaren has no incentive I'll order stick with my 7 pro.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/1/19102891/tmobile-5g-network-launch-test-speeds-impressions-samsung
I can't see why anyone would pay the premium for 5G at this point. As stated, the connectivity is just not there. This article is 4 months old but the challenges are not SW or even device related, they are infrastructure. By the time any carrier has a 5G offering that is widely available, the current generation of devices will be obsolete.