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Can i remove things from a dummy phone?

I'm soon gonna buy an used Sony Ericsson Xperia, but the thing is that it's battery cover and front buttons are a little scratched. I was thinking of buying a full housing but soon changed my mind due to it's price(80€). And besides, i don't need a new Qwerty keyboard and camera cover. So i checked for a dummy phone, which has a price of 25€. I was thinking, is it possible to remove it's battery cover and front buttons and place them on a real Xperia X1?
Here is the link to the dummy phone: http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-xperia-dummy-phone-p-6107.html

why dont u call sony ericsson and tell them about ur battery cover? i did and got a new one few days ago

spikegotti said:
why dont u call sony ericsson and tell them about ur battery cover? i did and got a new one few days ago
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I'm from Slovenia. No support from Sony Ericsson
Thanks anyway, spikegotti.
Does anyone know if it's possible what i asked?

if u have anyone livin in the usa or uk u can still call and have them ship it to the other address, or buy one from cnn, only 10 usd

spikegotti said:
if u have anyone livin in the usa or uk u can still call and have them ship it to the other address, or buy one from cnn, only 10 usd
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I know some people from UK and USA, but then again, the shipping will cost some money. And besides, It's not just about the battery cover, but about the front buttons too. That's is why i'm asking if Dummy phone parts are removeable. If they aren't, then i'll just buy a battery cover from Cnn, as you suggested.
So, do you maybe know if it's possible to disassemble a dummy phone?
Thanks for you answers

Just buy a battery cover from ebay or something.

shipping should not be much dude, i got SE to post my cover to my mother in the USA which the paid for, she only paid about $4.00 usd to post the package here (barbados) regular post...it took about a week
i dont know anything about dummy phones except that they do not make them 100% like the original

Nope, dummy phone parts are usually not removable... at least, not in the way you want them to be XD None of the ones where I work are, so I'd say it's a safe assumption that you'd be better off buying new parts.

Xenithflare said:
Nope, dummy phone parts are usually not removable... at least, not in the way you want them to be XD None of the ones where I work are, so I'd say it's a safe assumption that you'd be better off buying new parts.
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That was the answer i was looking for. Thank you!
P.S. Does anyone maybe know where i can get front buttons? I searched all over the net and i can't find them

SlashSpeed said:
P.S. Does anyone maybe know where i can get front buttons? I searched all over the net and i can't find them
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The front buttons seems to be included in a front cover. See for yourself here: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/x1-front-cover-p19247.htm

Avarell_Dalton said:
The front buttons seems to be included in a front cover. See for yourself here: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/x1-front-cover-p19247.htm
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Thanks for the link. Helped me a lot. But, is it possible to buy front cover and battery cover together?
Like this: http://mobile.brando.com/sony-erics...ment-front-battery-cover_p04302c0670d088.html
Just with the soft buttons included?

It appears to me being a f***ing nightmare to change the housing of the X1...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elgC8hwHfYQ&

SlashSpeed said:
Thanks for the link. Helped me a lot. But, is it possible to buy front cover and battery cover together?
Like this: http://mobile.brando.com/sony-erics...ment-front-battery-cover_p04302c0670d088.html
Just with the soft buttons included?
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Well, mobilefun sells both parts, just not bundled (battery cover £17.56). I suppose you're looking for a cheeper price and there I can't help you. I've shopped at mobilefun before and they work flawlessly even with orders abroad as in my case.
GL, A.D

Avarell_Dalton said:
Well, mobilefun sells both parts, just not bundled (battery cover £17.56). I suppose you're looking for a cheeper price and there I can't help you. I've shopped at mobilefun before and they work flawlessly even with orders abroad as in my case.
GL, A.D
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Well thanks for the help. The faceplate looks really awesome, but i think it's overpriced. At lease in my opinion.
You can see for the battery cover which is £17.56(about 18€?), while on the cnn.cn is only 10.99€(about 8€). It's a shame they don't sell the faceplate tho

Battery cover on the dummy phone is plastic. The battery cover is the same piece as the entire bottom housing.

On the back of the screen when the keyboard is open...those little rubber screw covers have fallen off on my xperia! Any idea where i can get some from can they be removed from a dummy phone ?
Thanks

Replacement housing on Ebay

Was looking to buy a new outer housing for the phone as I dropped it and there are grooves/pits in the soft rubber part of the housing. This one on ebay says it oem, but the camera does not extent as far as out on the original case, and there are no metal edges around the camera bezel (these may actually be better for the device). Was wondering if anyone can confirm if this is indeed oem, maybe htc changed the housing in later models?
Link here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-HTC-HD...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item45f16d3a99

thank you...

It looks like the real thing. not sure about the camera bit though. Also, the mini picture in the first image is definitely not the hd2. Might be worth asking the seller.

hello n4v1n,
same housing as original, when you will take off your outer housing, you will see that camera's extention with metal edge doesn't come with it (it's part of the camera's module, not housing)

agree with kengel77.. the camera module is by itself, therefore it will be on your board..

I can confirm that the camera part is part of the housing as I have taken it apart already. The board has just the lens attached to it, nothing else.

Would this work for the T9193 as well as the T8585?
I scuffed the corner of my housing (dropped it onto pavement in the leather sleeve, just happened to land on the exposed corner...) and removing the Telstra branding seems like a plus.
$20 is a pittance.
Also, how difficult/risky is the actual process of replacing the housing?

Ok I can confirm this is NOT an OEM housing as truesupplier.com has it for $98.00!!! too expensive imo. Also @spike15, removing the old housing is easy although you will most likely damage the original housing in the process as u have to pry it open with some sort of plastic edge and it's really tight. I have little grooves in the plastic above where the earpiece is now.

n4v1n said:
@spike15, removing the old housing is easy although you will most likely damage the original housing in the process as u have to pry it open with some sort of plastic edge and it's really tight. I have little grooves in the plastic above where the earpiece is now.
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I don't care about the original housing -- it'll be going straight in the garbage.
Can anyone confirm the quality of these housings? Can anyone confirm that the T8585 housing is identical (at least in shape and size) to the T9193 housing?

Spike15 said:
I don't care about the original housing -- it'll be going straight in the garbage.
Can anyone confirm the quality of these housings? Can anyone confirm that the T8585 housing is identical (at least in shape and size) to the T9193 housing?
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Since its not oem and from china, MOST likely will be garbage, considering an oem version costs 5X more. just my 2cents./ Also the antenna leads for the wifi, gps etc. are not included, so you will have to take them off the original, they look like stickers and if they tear, you're screwed. I didnt mess with them but they look very fragile.

n4v1n said:
Since its not oem and from china, MOST likely will be garbage, considering an oem version costs 5X more. just my 2cents./ Also the antenna leads for the wifi, gps etc. are not included, so you will have to take them off the original, they look like stickers and if they tear, you're screwed. I didnt mess with them but they look very fragile.
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Does the truesupplier one include these leads?
No one has an answer for whether or not the T8585 and T9193 housings are identical? : /

maybe this thread can give the answer
DN41
edit: look at the size...so it won't match...click

DN41 said:
maybe this thread can give the answer
DN41
edit: look at the size...so it won't match...click
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The T9193 is not the T-Mobile version, it's the Telstra version...

afaik ALL US versions are the t9193's.
the internationals (europe/asia/etc) are the t8585's.
DN41

Spike15 said:
Does the truesupplier one include these leads?
No one has an answer for whether or not the T8585 and T9193 housings are identical? : /
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Yea the one at truesupply includes the leads built into the case because it is officially OEM

DN41 said:
afaik ALL US versions are the t9193's.
the internationals (europe/asia/etc) are the t8585's.
DN41
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No, because the T9193 is the Telstra version, and Telstra is an Australian telco.
Do I need to take a picture of my Telstra HD2 box which says "T9193" on it?

Spike15 said:
No, because the T9193 is the Telstra version, and Telstra is an Australian telco.
Do I need to take a picture of my Telstra HD2 box which says "T9193" on it?
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yes you have t9193, the housing will NOT fit, end of story.

Are you sure this won't fit?
Someone on page suggested the only reason difference in size might be standard of measure difference. Sounds very ridiculous.
Why are you saying it won't fit?

[Q]third party back covers ?

i had this thing on my mind ! .. what if some third party company does a very durable and good cover just like the ones made by HTC ! just to replace the plastic-y one on the nexus S !
i mean is it possible ! and would you buy it ?! : D

I can't see why they couldn't make it.
I wouldn't buy one since I will be using a case. Once that case is on, the phone will feel solid for me.

I say no, why? Cuz the NFC reader is on the battery cover itself! Anandtech has a video review and they showed it. The NFC is glued or something onto the battery cover and there are 2 tiny metal contact points that connect onto the back of the phone.
I doubt any third party covers going to come out and tell you to rip out the NFC reader and try to paste it back exactly right.

isnt just a aerial for the chip thats in the back not the chip it self?

well it's only one feature that's still not widely spread to lose ! i'd trade it for a good quality battery cover !
it's also ok i think to keep the NFC cover with u wherever u go just in case u need it !
^ providied it's the chip not an antenna or watever : D

tomqman said:
isnt just a aerial for the chip thats in the back not the chip it self?
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It's the antenna, without it, the NFC will NOT work at all.

nxt said:
It's the antenna, without it, the NFC will NOT work at all.
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yep so it shouldnt add much on the cost

nxt said:
I say no, why? Cuz the NFC reader is on the battery cover itself! Anandtech has a video review and they showed it. The NFC is glued or something onto the battery cover and there are 2 tiny metal contact points that connect onto the back of the phone.
I doubt any third party covers going to come out and tell you to rip out the NFC reader and try to paste it back exactly right.
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The atenna on the covers are probably like $.50 at most, third party mfgs will to incorporate them.

yeah i agree... If there were compatible replacement back covers made from either steel like Moto or good quality rubberised plastic like HTC, i would definitely get the Nexus S.... Otherwise i'll wait for the moto olympus

joey3002 on the Evo forums ended up producing a bunch of covers simply because he wanted to. Granted the inside of the Evo is way cooler than the NS, but if you want it enough it can be done.

[Q] GPS hardware gone bad on HD2

Hi all,
My HD2 running HyperDroid v12 from Pongster is a dream phone. Everything is working excellent except recently I got the digitizer changed from a local shop here in LA and in the process of fixing the digitizer the idiot seems to have ruined my GPS related hardware (which obviously he is not owning up to). I tried all sorts of software remedies (including changing ROMS) but nothing seems to get a GPS lock.
My questions is -
Is there any way to buy and replace the GPS receiver in the phone?
Thanks

The guy might have accidentally removed the connection from the circuit board, I remember seeing threads from before of other's doing the same thing when fixing the digitizer.

Moon2 said:
The guy might have accidentally removed the connection from the circuit board, I remember seeing threads from before of other's doing the same thing when fixing the digitizer.
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Thanks Moon
Any recommendations on what tools to buy to open my HD2? Any schematics on what the gps antenna would look like? Coudnt find similar threads for HD2...

Here's links to official disassembly & assembly videos:
Disassembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=player_embedded
Assembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=player_embedded
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They tell you what you need, and instead of the "flat plastic stick", a guitar pick should be fine.
- No need to remove speaker from housing.
- Ignore everything from 1:47, and look at 3:22 from the disassembly video, instead of removing the gps coaxial cable, check if it's actually connected properly, if not, just push it in.
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I'll try and find those threads I remember reading, in which the OP and other members had the same problem after replacement of digitizer.

Moon2 said:
Here's links to official disassembly & assembly videos:
Disassembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=player_embedded
Assembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=player_embedded
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They tell you what you need, and instead of the "flat plastic stick", a guitar pick should be fine.
- No need to remove speaker from housing.
- Ignore everything from 1:47, and look at 3:22 from the disassembly video, instead of removing the gps coaxial cable, check if it's actually connected properly, if not, just push it in.
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I'll try and find those threads I remember reading, in which the OP and other members had the same problem after replacement of digitizer.
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Thanks so much bro... Greatly appreciate your help!

Moon2 said:
Here's links to official disassembly & assembly videos:
Disassembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=player_embedded
Assembly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=player_embedded
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They tell you what you need, and instead of the "flat plastic stick", a guitar pick should be fine.
- No need to remove speaker from housing.
- Ignore everything from 1:47, and look at 3:22 from the disassembly video, instead of removing the gps coaxial cable, check if it's actually connected properly, if not, just push it in.
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I'll try and find those threads I remember reading, in which the OP and other members had the same problem after replacement of digitizer.
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Hi Moon,
I followed the steps in the videos you provided and opened my HD2. The GPS coaxial cable seems to be fit in snug, which I guess is indicative that the GPS antenna itself may have gone bad somehow. Possible?
I did a little searching and found this link where I can buy an antenna from -
http://www.gsm4world.us/oem-htc-hd2-t8585-gps-antenna-board-flex-ribbon-cable-d-03752_579.html
That said, I am not too comfortable trying to replace it by myself. Any chance anybody knows a person/shop in the LA area who may have expertise in such jobs? The one I found in Glendale (CellularDR) is the reason this has happened so I'm not too keen on re-visiting them.
Thanks again for all the help!

Can't you get a separate external GPS receiver and bluetooth it?

It kinda beats the purpose of havnig a all in one device, plus you need to always watch 2 batteries and not just one . But, I must say it is the safe option and worth considering.

KT said:
Hi Moon,
I followed the steps in the videos you provided and opened my HD2. The GPS coaxial cable seems to be fit in snug, which I guess is indicative that the GPS antenna itself may have gone bad somehow. Possible?
I did a little searching and found this link where I can buy an antenna from -
http://www.gsm4world.us/oem-htc-hd2-t8585-gps-antenna-board-flex-ribbon-cable-d-03752_579.html
That said, I am not too comfortable trying to replace it by myself. Any chance anybody knows a person/shop in the LA area who may have expertise in such jobs? The one I found in Glendale (CellularDR) is the reason this has happened so I'm not too keen on re-visiting them.
Thanks again for all the help!
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Hi KT did you manage to solve the issue? i´m having the same problem and i´m thinking if you managed to solve the problem replacing the gps antenna..
thanks

New back housing w/antennas
I had to replace the back housing on my phone as it broke (it looked like the plastic had deteriorated), and the new one comes with all 3 antenna attached, and a new battery cover for less than US 20.00. I have better reception now on all 3 radios, and the phone looks new again. If your have to take it apart anyway, why not replace the whole back? I got it from these people, eBay item 350487086071, but there are tons out there, and it was dead simple. Unscrewed the four screws, used the plastic piece to pop the snaps, and that was it.
YMMV, but for only 20, you can rule out the antennas if nothing else.

mikeeed said:
I had to replace the back housing on my phone as it broke (it looked like the plastic had deteriorated), and the new one comes with all 3 antenna attached, and a new battery cover for less than US 20.00. I have better reception now on all 3 radios, and the phone looks new again. If your have to take it apart anyway, why not replace the whole back? I got it from these people, eBay item 350487086071, but there are tons out there, and it was dead simple. Unscrewed the four screws, used the plastic piece to pop the snaps, and that was it.
YMMV, but for only 20, you can rule out the antennas if nothing else.
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Hi mate, thank you so much for your reply, great tip, and good to know that is good quality product, and because I have a spare battery cover I bought only the chassis.. great price I will start from there.. thanks once again.
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Fake Genuine Samsung Flip Cover

I bought this flip cover advertised as genuine on Ebay and when it arrived I realized there is no NFC chip in it (mentioned in the listing, but I didn't see it). Additionally the colour is more black that grey, so it doesn't really match my phone + the texture of the back panel is different than the original panel of the phone. This makes me think it might be a fake copy.
But then I called Samsung Technical Support and one very cocky guy told me Samsung doesn't manufacture any covers for its phones and what they sell on their website is from 3rd party - WTF???
So is there a Genuine cover? And is there a genuine one without a NFC chip in the back?
How can I tell if it's fake?

it says right in the listing "no nfc chip" go re read it

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it says right in the listing "no nfc chip" go re read it
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So is there a Genuine Flip Cover without NFC chip?
And what does Genuine actually mean in this case? Made by Samsung? Made for Samsung? Not affiliated with Samsung at all?
It's just that the whole cover feels of cheap quality.

cyper.bg said:
So is there a Genuine Flip Cover without NFC chip?
And what does Genuine actually mean in this case? Made by Samsung? Made for Samsung? Not affiliated with Samsung at all?
It's just that the whole cover feels of cheap quality.
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This is one of the non-genuine ones that have NFC:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Support-..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item53efdbedaf

Wow, they really went out if their way to sell this as the original flip cover. You have to be really careful when buying stuff like this. Watch out for words like Genuine, OEM, and Original.
To my knowledge, Samsung includes the NFC chip in all flip covers. Why would they offer one without? That really makes no sense. Why leave out something that costs so little only to disable one of the included features out of the box?
When the price is too good to be true that should throw up a caution flag.
Just curious, does the inside of the cover have the notch for the home button? All knockoffs I've seen do not. Just wondering how the actual product differs from the pics shown. The pics they've listed appear to be of the real flip cover. I guess they figured that most people wouldn't know the difference.

cyper.bg said:
I bought this flip cover advertised as genuine on Ebay and when it arrived I realized there is no NFC chip in it (mentioned in the listing, but I didn't see it). Additionally the colour is more black that grey, so it doesn't really match my phone + the texture of the back panel is different than the original panel of the phone. This makes me think it might be a fake copy.
But then I called Samsung Technical Support and one very cocky guy told me Samsung doesn't manufacture any covers for its phones and what they sell on their website is from 3rd party - WTF???
So is there a Genuine cover? And is there a genuine one without a NFC chip in the back?
How can I tell if it's fake?
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I'm assuming you're UK based from the ebay link? I bought the grey flip case from a UK seller (link below) and can confirm the NFC chips are in these ones. It was delivered within 2 days. I presume you can probably find one a bit cheaper but anyone selling the non-NFC versions should really be making sure everyone is aware of this too and as 'carhigh' mentioned the ebay page you linked to does have this stated right at the top. I'm presuming the product code of the non-NFC ones will also be different.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200838433126?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

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Wow, they really went out if their way to sell this as the original flip cover. You have to be really careful when buying stuff like this. Watch out for words like Genuine, OEM, and Original.
To my knowledge, Samsung includes the NFC chip in all flip covers. Why would they offer one without? That really makes no sense. Why leave out something that costs so little only to disable one of the included features out of the box?
When the price is too good to be true that should throw up a caution flag.
Just curious, does the inside of the cover have the notch for the home button? All knockoffs I've seen do not. Just wondering how the actual product differs from the pics shown. The pics they've listed appear to be of the real flip cover. I guess they figured that most people wouldn't know the difference.
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Now that you mentioned, no there isn't a notch for the home button - another clue this isn't a genuine product. So far I've found these differences:
No notch for the home button:
Protective film at the back doesn't have the 3 squares with some instructions as in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xvBERAUb-M0#t=33s Also the color of the whole case is more black than dark grey.
No NFC contacts. No serial number on the inside of the back cover as in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4cyXej7zxo0#t=41s Different mold design as well.
The small phone image on the lower left side of the packaging is not full colour, but very dark. You can't see any details such as the time on its screen:
Also there wasn't any protective white piece inside the flip cover as in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xvBERAUb-M0#t=28s

How these guys have 99.9% positive feedback is beyond me. I buy from ebay a lot and have never left negative feedback. I believe most issues can be resolved, but the one thing I can't stand is a blatant lie. That's what they're doing here. The product shown is not the product they're selling.

At least he is willing to help (obviously because he knows he's at fault here):
hi, sorry that you have an issue with the cover. would you like to return it for a full refund .we will credit you for the return postage . please advise. regards.
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hi, would that hep if i send you a self-stamped envelope which you use for returning the item by putting it in anypost box . we need to return it to the supplier because we have found a few odd ones without nfc chips and had to lower the price for all. i got it from the supplier for 15.02 poundsnd need to get it back from them. hope this is alrightfor you . alternatively, you may keep it for 10pounds and we refund the difference . which option do you prefer ?
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You can get a genuine Samsung flip cover w/NFC direct from Samsung for $19.99 after the 50% off code.

Awesome, glad you got it worked out.

ericshmerick said:
You can get a genuine Samsung flip cover w/NFC direct from Samsung for $19.99 after the 50% off code.
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I'm in the UK :crying:

the fact that he's reaching out to you to see how he can address the issue and make you whole is probably why he's a top seller. I'm glad he's trying to resolve the issue. Let us know how it goes!
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At least he is willing to help (obviously because he knows he's at fault here):
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mobilebuddha said:
the fact that he's reaching out to you to see how he can address the issue and make you whole is probably why he's a top seller. I'm glad he's trying to resolve the issue. Let us know how it goes!
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Well, no complaints there:
He refunded me in full and will send me a self-stamped envelope to return the case.