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(Rant) Laggy

Okay so I'm not one to complain but I just got the note 4 about 5 hours ago and damn does this thing stutter, Like opening apps scrolling through the home screens and stuff is fine but no apps and I mean none run smooth, they all have the micro scrolling stutter and even after switching to art they still do it. And I'm coming from a nexus 4 so this phone shouldn't feel like a high end phone yet perform like a a low end phone I have not rooted but I am deciding to just Duke it out and wait for roms I already received the update that's supposed to help the lag and no difference I mean I kind of new what I was getting my self into when I got it considering it is a Samsung phone but still. Hoping for hyper drive or at least a debloated stock rom soon

I have no lag at all. Have you tried rebooting it and maybe a factory reset?

Even in power saving its pretty smooth i m an old nexus 4-5 user too i wouldnt expect this smoothness from a touchwiz phone

Yes the first thing I did was factory reset then I disabled a bunch of Samsung and Google Apps I didn't use and yea I'm giving it a week if nothing improves I'm swapping it out for another one

Is this snapdragon or exynos ? No lag here aswell (910c)

OsSkates1996 said:
Yes the first thing I did was factory reset then I disabled a bunch of Samsung and Google Apps I didn't use and yea I'm giving it a week if nothing improves I'm swapping it out for another one
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If you're planning to root, don't just yet. It could be a hardware fault somewhere, because as you said, it still stutters after a factory reset. Once you root, you lose all warranty, even if it turns out to be harware fault.
If you can try visit a store with Note 4 demo units, compare them to yours.

I already tried some days a couple of Note 4. 1 abit lag, stutter lag, but another much smoother. Pls return it and get another one

Run some benchmarks before you return it - if it's hardware reason it should result in lower benchamrk results.

I was messing around with my brother's Note 4 (Snapdragon) and noticed lag as well. Which is funny because I was exploring my friend's S5 and there was absolutely 100% no lag. My brother had a live wallpaper and a bunch of apps running in the background, so I assume that could be the reason. However, there shouldn't be any lag what-so-ever at this point. WTF is going on?
Maybe I'll wait for the Note 5. Lol.

I use exynos version and get no lag at all
My ram free never over 400mb but it still very smooth
Maybe you should try factory reset and make sure dont change your device to art
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acsbg said:
Is this snapdragon or exynos ? No lag here aswell (910c)
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where did you order it from? I'm looking for that version...

lgass said:
where did you order it from? I'm looking for that version...
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Its the version sold here in Bulgaria, im not aware of any online shops that will ship it internationally though...

OsSkates1996 said:
Okay so I'm not one to complain but I just got the note 4 about 5 hours ago and damn does this thing stutter, Like opening apps scrolling through the home screens and stuff is fine but no apps and I mean none run smooth, they all have the micro scrolling stutter and even after switching to art they still do it. And I'm coming from a nexus 4 so this phone shouldn't feel like a high end phone yet perform like a a low end phone I have not rooted but I am deciding to just Duke it out and wait for roms I already received the update that's supposed to help the lag and no difference I mean I kind of new what I was getting my self into when I got it considering it is a Samsung phone but still. Hoping for hyper drive or at least a debloated stock rom soon
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I dont thing this is true story.....if its true then you have faulty note 4

acsbg said:
Its the version sold here in Bulgaria, im not aware of any online shops that will ship it internationally though...
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ok! thanks!

I have the t mobile snapdragon version and yea i will be testing it extensively for a week before I do anything because I mean even some of the display models at best buy were being smoother than mine haha but don't get me wrong guys I love this phone it is amazing I just can't take the stuttering and about the s5 yes that's weird my dad has the s5 and I was comparing it to my note and noticed no lag at all compared to my note :/

Or could it just be that the display is so clear that even the littlest things are noticeable? Lol

Mine is really laggy (snapdragon UK version) it takes 2-3 seconds to load up the open apps menu, 2-3 seconds to then open an app such as facebook, google, menu, gallery etc, I don't play many games but one I use quite often which the phone should smash through is Words with friends, it takes awhile to load and you can literally see it lagging as you move the tiles from one section to another.
You can see it lagging as you scroll through facebook and twitter also.

Got a SA Vodacom Snapdragon one and no lag.

Not really lag, but more like device throttling. Check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/help/camera-video-lagging-t2913392

Mine is N910C (Exynos Edition).
No lag as you mention.
I even test with my friend iPhone 6 Plus, 99% apps opening in Note 4 is ahead faster than iPhone 6 Plus.
The only slight delay is Recent Apps and also sometimes they is a little slight jittering animation.
Overall this Note 4 is pretty smooth. I rate it second smoother animation android after HTC One M8 but for speed, it is the most speedy android phone ever for the moment.

Lag

I've had the Moto X for about a month and a half and one thing that's always bothered me is the odd software lag. Let me point out where this is most noticeable:
- Twitter: with images enabled in the news feed, scrolling becomes extremely jittery. this issue is non-existent on the Galaxy S5 (I've tried them side by side and they have the same processor)
- Google Music: terrible experience all around when it comes to animations. when opening the app, the bar on the bottom that pops up with your last played track lags. when selecting your library the app lags when loading album artwork. everything about this app is laggy which is odd for the 801 + 320 chipset.
There are other areas where the phone stutters and I can't figure out why. It's been like this since day 1, and I don't have an excessive amount of apps running in the background (usually 850mb of RAM being used). Opening the app drawer and scrolling between home screens is smooth - it's just the graphics performance in apps can be utter crap. Anyone else notice this? I'm running 4.4.4 btw. I've been thinking of doing a software reset but don't want to go through the hassle. I don't have any out-of-the-ordinary apps installed so I'm baffled as to why an almost stock Android device behaves likes this.

This happens to me as well. For the hardware in the Moto X it sure doesn't perform like it. I actually made a post just like this the other day.
Are you rooted? I'm considering downgrading back to 4.4.4 I cannot stand it. I will probably end up returning the phone for a refund.

I'm honestly surprised to hear this, my moto X has been smoother than my nexus 5. I'd really try the master reset and load up apps a few at a time to see if/when you get lag again.

Something has got to be going on with your phone, the Moto X is hands down the smoothest Android phone I've ever owned which says a lot because I've owned upwards of 20, and most of them were flagships. I also have the N5 at the moment and the X is noticeably smoother when side by side, and that is a major feat considering how insanely smooth the N5 is. I'd do a reset and maybe even a reflash if you can. If that doesn't work, maybe you just got a bad device.

Me too especially chrome both on kitkat and lollipop and only on specific websites. Google books too to be honest but hardly noticeable.
I was surprised to see a bit of jitter considering the high praise it gets.
Now perhaps this is just how it should be, but the z3 compact with same specs felt faster albeit with a smaller res.

I've noticed it too. Can we find a common theme?
Mine is the pure edition with system version 22.21.11 lollipop
Build number LXE22.46-11
Moto additional features turned on
Not modified, not rooted

bobloblawsum said:
I've noticed it too. Can we find a common theme?
Mine is the pure edition with system version 22.21.11 lollipop
Build number LXE22.46-11
Moto additional features turned on
Not modified, not rooted
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Just to follow up. I ended up unlocking the boot loader and rooting my phone, in the process essentially factory wiping it. Since then it's been noticibly faster.
I doubt it has anything to do with rooting it and everything to do with resetting it. I believe the OTA update to lollipop out of the box just left too much crap in the cache maybe? Who knows.
Now it's just like the nexus 5 in terms of fluidity

I noticed some terrible lag with the Telus 4.4.4 build. Even with a full reset it just never seemed to live up to the hardware standards. At absolutely everything my Nexus 7 2013 was faster(with both using the ART runtime).
One possibly significant thing I noticed with 4.4.4 is if I would ftp a file via wifi from a local machine the speed was incredibly slow, only 300kB/sec. Wifi however was super fast for nearly anything else, I also ran a flash benchmark test and it was quick. But when ftping and writing to flash it was always slow. I have since updated to the t-mobile lollipop build and the same ftp is now 2600kB/sec and the entire phone is quicker with no lag.

Lollipop runs like crap. Getting constant redraws all the time

varignet said:
Me too especially chrome both on kitkat and lollipop and only on specific websites. Google books too to be honest but hardly noticeable.
I was surprised to see a bit of jitter considering the high praise it gets.
Now perhaps this is just how it should be, but the z3 compact with same specs felt faster albeit with a smaller res.
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That lower res makes all the difference in the world. It has the same SOC as all the current flagships, but because of the 720p display it'll outperform any of them. That's also one of the reasons why it gets such great battery life too. That phone is one seriously awesome piece of tech. And as much as I hate OEM skins, I actually like Sony's.

A lot of phones sometimes get lagged up after an OTA, even the iPhone can and has for ppm and myself. If clearing cache in recovery don't help try a factory reset. Its not a problem with just the moto x.
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No lag here. This is the smoothest phone I have used non rooted.

dobbs3x said:
A lot of phones sometimes get lagged up after an OTA, even the iPhone can and has for ppm and myself. If clearing cache in recovery don't help try a factory reset. Its not a problem with just the moto x.
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Clearing cache did not have an effect, but a factory reset seems to have completely alleviated the lag/stuttering issues. Thanks!

Note 5 horrible lag

Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad. Many of the games I have tried to play on it have horrible lag. Couple examples would be Big Fish Casino, Clicker Heroes, Order and Chaos, and Hearthstone. I did some testing with my GF's phone, which is the S6 Edge+, her phone does the same thing with clicker heroes. Didn't go much further than that. I still have a few days left to return the phone but I am having trouble believing that both my phone and hers could be defective. My iphone6 didn't stumble a bit on any of these games.
Anyone know if the above games should cause FPS lag? Facebook does a number to it also, but only when trying to make me sync new photos. I may just end up going with the iphone6s because I had zero problems with it the last 2 years.
Thanks

Mikey8470 said:
Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad. Many of the games I have tried to play on it have horrible lag. Couple examples would be Big Fish Casino, Clicker Heroes, Order and Chaos, and Hearthstone. I did some testing with my GF's phone, which is the S6 Edge+, her phone does the same thing with clicker heroes. Didn't go much further than that. I still have a few days left to return the phone but I am having trouble believing that both my phone and hers could be defective. My iphone6 didn't stumble a bit on any of these games.
Anyone know if the above games should cause FPS lag? Facebook does a number to it also, but only when trying to make me sync new photos. I may just end up going with the iphone6s because I had zero problems with it the last 2 years.
Thanks
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Update the software if there is any updates. Then factory wipe(make sure to backup any data to your computer). Fixes most if not all problems with lag.

Mikey8470 said:
Just picked up the Note 5. I came from the iphone6. Needless to say its pretty bad.
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Not sure if this is the right approach to this forum. When you say "needless to say" does it mean you were expecting it to be laggy ? Becasue I don't see this to be a common problem. Not even sure why you moved away from your iphone if you were so happy about it.
It would be useful , for anyone to chip in , to know what model and firmware you have.
As for the lag my simple answer is : I have a 920G , rooted with dr Ketan Fware and SkyHigh Kernel, and my N5 is screaming fast with no lag.
P_

pakalrtb said:
Not sure if this is the right approach to this forum. When you say "needless to say" does it mean you were expecting it to be laggy ? Becasue I don't see this to be a common problem. Not even sure why you moved away from your iphone if you were so happy about it.
It would be useful , for anyone to chip in , to know what model and firmware you have.
As for the lag my simple answer is : I have a 920G , rooted with dr Ketan Fware and SkyHigh Kernel, and my N5 is screaming fast with no lag.
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I apologize for the bad approach. Spoke out of frustration. The model is SM-920T and the build number is LMY47X.N920TUVS2COKC.
I also factory reset the phone and when I tested clicker heroes again its pretty much locks the phone up if there are too many coins flying along side clicking.

Mikey8470 said:
I apologize for the bad approach. Spoke out of frustration. The model is SM-920T and the build number is LMY47X.N920TUVS2COKC.
I also factory reset the phone and when I tested clicker heroes again its pretty much locks the phone up if there are too many coins flying along side clicking.
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That sounds weird, I've had nothing but a quite smooth experience on this phone even just stock rooted. However i do have SkyHigh kernel installed and i have to say it makes a world of difference.

succumbtothegreater said:
That sounds weird, I've had nothing but a quite smooth experience on this phone even just stock rooted. However i do have SkyHigh kernel installed and i have to say it makes a world of difference.
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I have already talked to the service rep that sold me the phone. Of course hes like "Eh must be the sim card." He denied that the phone was locking up. I will probably go and get a new one tomorrow before my 14 days are up and they try to stick me with a refurb. I haven't had a rooted android device since the Droid X first came out. Is it a lot safer now days? Just don't wanna try to root a device that is having so many hicupps out of the box.

You don't need to root for great performance. I've been running stock for months and all is very smooth with great battery life.

TechAnimal said:
You don't need to root for great performance. I've been running stock for months and all is very smooth with great battery life.
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So do you think I have a dud phone then? I think I will go get a new one anyways. It is probably the best thing to do if I am not happy with the current performance of my phone.

It's not a dud. Also, it's not lag, more like dropping frame rate or an inconsistent frame rate. The note 5 doesn't lag, it just can't produce a consistent frame rate in games I play. That's how android is.
I just got a note 5 as a business phone and I use a 6s plus as a main phone. On most games iOS is way smoother than android. It's because the games developed on iOS for very few devices. Android games on the other hand have to be made to run for many kinds of models. I love my note 5 but I just have to accept the fact that games run smoother on iOS because the game developers are able to optimize their apps. This is easily seen in hearthstone for iOS vs android.
My note 5 is my business phone, the iPhone is for gaming. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but the truth is if you want a smooth gaming experience and can't have both operating systems like I do, just go back to iOS.

prinzhernan said:
It's not a dud. Also, it's not lag, more like dropping frame rate or an inconsistent frame rate. The note 5 doesn't lag, it just can't produce a consistent frame rate in games I play. That's how android is.
I just got a note 5 as a business phone and I use a 6s plus as a main phone. On most games iOS is way smoother than android. It's because the games developed on iOS for very few devices. Android games on the other hand have to be made to run for many kinds of models. I love my note 5 but I just have to accept the fact that games run smoother on iOS because the game developers are able to optimize their apps. This is easily seen in hearthstone for iOS vs android.
My note 5 is my business phone, the iPhone is for gaming. I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but the truth is if you want a smooth gaming experience and can't have both operating systems like I do, just go back to iOS.
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Yes. Dropped frame rate in games and in animations (scrolling through lists is the worst experience e.g. Youtube Facebook ...). Rooting and new kernel improves significantly, so it' a software issue, not hardware.

Willyman said:
Yes. Dropped frame rate in games and in animations (scrolling through lists is the worst experience e.g. Youtube Facebook ...). Rooting and new kernel improves significantly, so it' a software issue, not hardware.
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Is there any way to actually go against this and set a certain frame rate? Some guy developed an app that did it for the LG G3 but again they're very different devices so

Yes, there is a utility app from Samsung that allows you to adjust the frame rate and other settings as well. It is called Game Tuner, you can get it on the Google Play store. Enjoy!

KruseLudsMobile said:
Yes, there is a utility app from Samsung that allows you to adjust the frame rate and other settings as well. It is called Game Tuner, you can get it on the Google Play store. Enjoy!
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Whoa thanks! I actually just got a replacement device a few days ago, dropped my OG on its back, cracked the LCD and wouldnt work. This new device, same settings, everything, its flying, way better than my previous one. The OP's issue could just be his device and needs a replacement

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Whoa thanks! I actually just got a replacement device a few days ago, dropped my OG on its back, cracked the LCD and wouldnt work. This new device, same settings, everything, its flying, way better than my previous one. The OP's issue could just be his device and needs a replacement
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Get the app anyway and try to push the device to be all it can be!

Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the OnePlus 5T under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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I am a scrolling smoothness fanatic.
I even wrote a custom app to try and understand wtf was up with the note 7 scrolling: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/help/note-7-weird-scrolling-touchwiz-root-t3455650
Every since I switched from iPhone a couple of years ago, I could never get that same smooth feeling. I went through about 7 android devices looking for that.
Now that that's clear, here is my review :
This phone is a revelation. I do not know how such smoothness is even possible.
It is the smoothest phone I saw in my entire life. It's even taking the luxury of over performing the iPhone.
I love it

Agreed. This thing puts the Pixel 2 series to shame when it comes to butter smoothness, not to mention app loading.

Hi. Do you guys find the scrolling to be choppy when scrolling slowly? For me it is very choppy.

GCbard said:
Hi. Do you guys find the scrolling to be choppy when scrolling slowly? For me it is very choppy.
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Not at all. This is the most buttery smooth phone I have EVER used.

Does this video seem like the scolling is smooth to you?

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Does this video seem like the scolling is smooth to you?
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That's definitely not how it should be.

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That's definitely not how it should be.
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That's definitely how it is for some of us. Mine was worse than shown in the video but since the latest OOS update (4.7.4) it has improved considerably. Still seeing some stuttering going on here and there but for the most part it's cleared up.
Brand new 2 day old phone no root, bootloader locked and everything installed and setup from scratch.
My personal experience so far, other than the initial lag/stutter, has be mostly positive and I'm loving my new phone.
Can't wait to root and unlock the bootloader to open this puppy up and see what she can REALLY do.

I figured out what it was. It was an app that I downloaded to monitor usage and it was causing lag and scrolling. I did a factory reset and now everything is working smooth as butter
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Scrolling smoothness

Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 Pro under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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The phone is pretty smooth. I usually have about 6/8 apps opened in background and the phone never gave me any problem.

Just purchased Note 6 Pro (India) 4/64GB for a family memeber of mine.
Updated the phone after first boot to latest stable MiUi 10. Went to Play Store for app updates.
Now here at play store I see some stuttering while clicking an app to expand from update screen. Just as the screen is enlarging, there is that stuttering.
Apart from that over all the stock launcher is running rest of the stuff smoothly.
Not complaining since I chose this over MiA2 SD660 knowing the performance issue of SD636 to compare with.
Thanks

NaXal said:
Just purchased Note 6 Pro (India) 4/64GB for a family memeber of mine.
Updated the phone after first boot to latest stable MiUi 10. Went to Play Store for app updates.
Now here at play store I see some stuttering while clicking an app to expand from update screen. Just as the screen is enlarging, there is that stuttering.
Apart from that over all the stock launcher is running rest of the stuff smoothly.
Not complaining since I chose this over MiA2 SD660 knowing the performance issue of SD636 to compare with.
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what performance issue of 636?

bornlivedie said:
what performance issue of 636?
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I am talking about SD660 vs SD636
SD636 is best when running 720p 16:9/10 but it isn't that fluid when you bump up the resolution to 1080p 19:9 or such. Specially when SD660 is sold at same price point with MiA2.
As I wrote above, I knew the difference I may face, so I am not complaining but simply stating the experience that I am getting.
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