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I have both, s8+ and Note 8. I first got the s8+ and was really happy with the quality of the pictures. then I got the Note 8 expecting to be able to get even better ones, but outcome was totally different. Actually the Note 8 pictures come out really out-focused and burry, even with a lot of noise in comparison with the pictures I've taken with the s8+. I'm really disappointed with that problem I'm having with the Note8 as I was expecting it to be my main device. Is there someone who's experiencing the same problem with the Note8? Does anyone know if there is any solution to this?
Any comment or help will be really appreciated!
I have to try real hard to take a burry picture, I would get it exchanged.
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I have to try real hard to take a burry picture, I would get it exchanged.
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Thanks... I was afraid that was the solution. Will do so. I'm glad tho to know I was the only one and not that all the devices had the same issues that mine has, so I can just exchange it for another one and everything is going to be fine.
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I exchanged my note 8 for a new one. Surprise it's still has the same problem (with the camera taking blurry and noisy pictures). That compared to others Note8's and my own S8+
Came to realize something. My S8 is the F version (International) which has a different CPU and GPU than the U version (US). Is the same with the Note8. the F and the U versions have different CPUs and GPU's. Maybe the different GPU is what's doing the difference by processing the image differently. What do you guys think?
Definitely think it's just a US problem which I hope is fixed soon. I switched from iPhone to the note 8 and the camera is making me regret this decision
I live in Sweden and i have a Note 8, F version (sm-n950f) same problem, noisy and griny pictures.
much worse than my old phone galaxy S7 edge.
Yeah my note 8(U) prints are worthless! I spent years talking with an online Samsung rep., and I wish they could refund me the time and energy I wasted with him. Although, i found it I send the pic to my printer via email the printer is substantially better. But still not nearly as crisp as any of my other devices (moto play z, galaxy S6). ...im really hoping they release an update?, offe any kind of solution as I have a daughter ...and I require a lot of amazing pictures!
Ok ever since Ive seen this phone I've been smitten with it., but the price has scared me off a bit...it does seem to have some down to a relatively reasonable price and its got me thinking again. The Camera is what intrigues me the most, as with most people I would assume.
Here is what gives me pause though...from a lot of accounts it doesn't do very well taking pictures of people and just about every real review Ive sen says the camera oversharpens a lot, in any situation. My dilemma is I take a lot of pictures of my kids, as a lot of people do, so crappy pictures of people is sort of a dealbreaker for a phone. The low light performance seems amazing and teh 3x zoom I could definitely get some use out of, but the beauty mode and sharpening is stopping me from buying this phone.
Are there any ROMs that can be flashed that addressed this? Is this something someone could find in the software of the phone and disable? VIA a rom again obviously because it cannot be disabled in stock form it appears.
I find with people oh and dogs it can be a a little slow I am thinking of jumping ship to the note 9 as that camera is lightening fast plus you can add a memory card
When you come to scenary I have to say wow
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I have to say however it's an amazing device it's fast and fluid operating system wise i have always used iPhones and am happy to have moved to android just wish camera person wise was more polished
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Yeah that's great, but as you probably know people and dogs rarely stand still..babies even worse. If it's a little slow that's a definitely no, I got a note 8 and even that is a bit slow at times and I miss the shot Im trying to get.
My other options are a p2xl or a Oneplus 6, or keep the Note 8 but the GF needs a new phone
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Yeah that's great, but as you probably know people and dogs rarely stand still..babies even worse. If it's a little slow that's a definitely no, I got a note 8 and even that is a bit slow at times and I miss the shot Im trying to get.
My other options are a p2xl or a Oneplus 6, or keep the Note 8 but the GF needs a new phone
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That's the problem people move and the AI modes say keep still even once shot
I played with the note 9 last night and it was lightening fast
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mancuk29 said:
I find with people oh and dogs it can be a a little slow I am thinking of jumping ship to the note 9 as that camera is lightening fast plus you can add a memory card
When you come to scenary I have to say wow
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I have to say however it's an amazing device it's fast and fluid operating system wise i have always used iPhones and am happy to have moved to android just wish camera person wise was more polished
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Slow to focus or slow shutter speed? Anyway I don't find it slow by any means, one of the fastest to both focus and fire of a shot to be honest
I've found the rear cameras work really well - it is fast to focus, the night mode and B&W are really good. Turn off the AI as I think it's not very good. For just a point and shoot, I think the Pixel 2 will give you better results. If you are willing to put in a bit of work into your shots, I think the P20 Pro will give you excellent results. Now, if you are talking about the front camera, it is not very good (IMO). So, if you use the front camera quite a bit, I might suggest other options for you.
From what I hear, the video is not very good either (I don't shoot video, so I cannot comment first hand). I've read that the rear camera processing software was done by Leica and the front camera and video was done by Huawei - that may explain the difference in quality between those.
Overall, I find the hardware excellent but am not so fond of EMUI (esp. the memory management, notifications and AOD).
I take loads of photos of my kids, who never stop moving. Ever. Most of the time it takes amazing shots, but sometimes they're a bit blurry.
The over softening of faces has been reduced on recent updates, and if you're in portrait mode you can dial it down with a slider (it's called beauty level).
You'll struggle with ROMs now though - Huawei have stopped giving bootloader unlock codes. This means you won't be able to flash anything, and even if you could it has completely stifled development. Personally I wouldn't buy it now because of this (you also won't be able to root). But the photos really are incredible so if you can put up with stock software and no root then get it.
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I've found the rear cameras work really well - it is fast to focus, the night mode and B&W are really good. Turn off the AI as I think it's not very good. For just a point and shoot, I think the Pixel 2 will give you better results. If you are willing to put in a bit of work into your shots, I think the P20 Pro will give you excellent results. Now, if you are talking about the front camera, it is not very good (IMO). So, if you use the front camera quite a bit, I might suggest other options for you.
From what I hear, the video is not very good either (I don't shoot video, so I cannot comment first hand). I've read that the rear camera processing software was done by Leica and the front camera and video was done by Huawei - that may explain the difference in quality between those.
Overall, I find the hardware excellent but am not so fond of EMUI (esp. the memory management, notifications and AOD).
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Yeah honestly I don't use a front camera a lot and even when I do the quality doesn't really matter all that much.
I do do a lot of point and shoot, the quick snap of a kid doing something . But I do like having the extra functionality if I really wanted to take the time to get a really good shot. That's just not always practical.
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I take loads of photos of my kids, who never stop moving. Ever. Most of the time it takes amazing shots, but sometimes they're a bit blurry.
The over softening of faces has been reduced on recent updates, and if you're in portrait mode you can dial it down with a slider (it's called beauty level).
You'll struggle with ROMs now though - Huawei have stopped giving bootloader unlock codes. This means you won't be able to flash anything, and even if you could it has completely stifled development. Personally I wouldn't buy it now because of this (you also won't be able to root). But the photos really are incredible so if you can put up with stock software and no root then get it.
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yeah, it seems that people were trying to get Huawei to allow people to unlock again. Eh may it would be better to just wait until that happens.
Ok so a few things.
The device as a non rooted device is as good as they come.
Design
Battery
Camera
Performance
Storage
System
Can't fault any of it.
My wife has the phone as stock and she loves it.
I have the phone with the bootloader unlocked, debranded and rooted and I love it.
I can do a lot more than my wife can with it due to the flexibility of being able to remove bloat and install things like lineage and mods like swap torpedo for speed.
Personally if I was unable to unlock the bootloader, there is no way I would contemplate buying this phone, not for its price or for it's hindered lack of unlocking options.
My advice, you cannot unlock the bootloader any more.
Pixel 2 XL It's just dropped by £100
OnePlus 6T when it arrives
Pixel 3 when it arrives.
Not this phone, unless you are going to never hope to root it.
No one of the things I would need would be to get rid of EMUI because people don't seem to like it and from what I hear I wouldn't like it either. I would by buying it with the intention of swapping something more stock ish on it, so if I can't do that its really a non starter.
I'm really looking at a 2xl probably from swappa there are a bunch of refurbs or buybacks on there for a pretty decent price and there is the 200 off deal from Fi too.
I am considering the 6, yeah the 6t will be out but not until November and even then what can they do to change it? wireless charging is almost a sure bet, but not sure what else. Maybe a bit of work on that notch but that doesn't bother me too much. My note 8 has wireless charging and I never use it, so I can do without that.
The 3XL was what I wanted originally but the more leaks I see of the phone the more I don't like it. Again I'm not a notch hater like some people seem to be but it is rather large on the 3xl it seems and with the chin on the bottom it makes the screen look oddly placed...aesthetic issues only though.
The big thing though is it looks like it's only going to have 4 gigs of ram and a battery that's not any larger than its predecessor and for a phone that's likely going to cost around a thousand dollars that's just not acceptable. Now if they come out and say we could only fit this battery and 4 gigs of ram in it because our sensor is bigger than the P20 pros, or something else crazy like that, they may have my attention, but until I hear something like that Im not so interested. Even then, Huawei managed to fit a 4k battery and 6 gigs of ram and 2 more cameras in their phone in addition to the big one...so even that would be a weak excuse, but I could settle for that.
Loving my pro. Coming from Samsung for over ten years, I really like emui. Very easy to use. Very customizable. Thumbs up from me.
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Well I'm stumped.. I recently got an S10 as the Huawei fiasco finally helped me chose the Samsung over it. I have had an S8 for 2 years and liked it very much but was looking forward to the improved cameras on the S10.
After testing it numerous times and comparing I couldn't believe it - The S10 jpgs are overly processed, even in ok indoor lighting (ISO 400 or less) to the point where they are actually much much worst than my S8.
As a comparison, see the attached pics that speak for themselves. S8 on the left, S10 on the right. Granted these aren't perfect but they are within the same lighting conditions, no tweaking (full auto) and take from the same angle. I think the Laserdisc wall one is the most convincing. I am using a SD855 variant with the latest updates
Have I got a defective unit ? Reviewers out there have been praising the S10 camera as being amongst the best if not the best. I can't believe the S8 would be giving considerably better results ?!
Well, comparing the RAW from the S8 and S10 it does look like the S10 is faring a bit better I would say (more details) so that was even more surprising. I tried the Gcam app with settings for S10 and it seems to confirm that the issue is directly tied to the Samsung app and processing. I had read that it was very agressive in noise reduction but it wasn't has bad on the S8 by an important margin. Moreoever, comparing the file sizes from Gcam to Samsung Cam indicates a way heavier compression on Samsung's part (same pic is 2.2 MB Gcam, 800kb SCam). See attached Gcam left, SCam right, should be obvious by now).
I agree, very disappointing. The s7 was better even, IMO. Using the Google camera port had gotten me excellent results, though, so I'm still satisfied with the phone overall. I really hope Samsung fixes their app, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I agree, very disappointing. The s7 was better even, IMO. Using the Google camera port had gotten me excellent results, though, so I'm still satisfied with the phone overall. I really hope Samsung fixes their app, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Which version of Gcam are you using? Do you know if telephoto is supposed to work on it? I get standard and wide but suspect that zooming is only digital. As well, no pro mode on gcam?
do any of the gcam apks support the wide angle on the s10e?
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Which version of Gcam are you using? Do you know if telephoto is supposed to work on it? I get standard and wide but suspect that zooming is only digital. As well, no pro mode on gcam?
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I'm using the version in my screenshot with the s10cs2.xml configuration from the gcam thread. Telephoto doesn't work. I also have turned off Pixel 3 AWB and have set exposure compensation to +0,8
Hope that helps.
Edit: turning off Pixel 3 AWB made a huge difference for the better in the color of my photos.
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I'm using the version in my screenshot with the s10cs2.xml configuration from the gcam thread. Telephoto doesn't work. I also have turned off Pixel 3 AWB and have set exposure compensation to +0,8
Hope that helps.
Edit: turning off Pixel 3 AWB made a huge difference for the better in the color of my photos.
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Interesting I'm on 1.5 with top motion XML. I assume it must be quite similar but it does have pixel 3 awb enabled I'll try turning it off, thanks.
Straight tripping dude. This camera is phenomenal. I was just at a pool party and was getting better, clearer, pictures than my step daughter was talking with her iPhone X.
I don't see any difference in your first set of photos. Not sure what the second set is supposed to be highlighting. The colors seem very vivid and the contrast looks spot on. The lighting isn't perfect but that's not the cameras fault.
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Straight tripping dude. This camera is phenomenal. I was just at a pool party and was getting better, clearer, pictures than my step daughter was talking with her iPhone X.
I don't see any difference in your first set of photos. Not sure what the second set is supposed to be highlighting. The colors seem very vivid and the contrast looks spot on. The lighting isn't perfect but that's not the cameras fault.
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The OP's assessment is right on in my experience, but if you're happy with it, enjoy! I wish I was happy with the camera, but it is just too processed for my taste. Anyway, as I said earlier, I'm thankful for the Gcam option.
Hi all,
I swapped my S9 for an S10 a couple of days ago
Overall seems to be a (slightly) better phone, love the fingerprint at the front (been missing that since my S7) but what has been bothering the hell out of me is the camera
I have 2 boys, 2 and 5 years old so taking pictures has always been a challenge but the sports mode on the S9 did a good job
Sports mode has apparently been removed from the S10 and the normal camera mode almost always results in blurry pictures
This is a company phone and I chose the S10 because of the good camera reviews, I can't return it so I'm stuck with this thing
Any young dads or chihuahua owners found a way to take decent shots of their Small Moving Objects?
Tried pro mode but it's always something, conditions vary off course and I tried to explain to my youngest that I had to correct the ISO but he just farted
Burst mode is not my thing neither, I take a lot of pictures so if I have to find the best one every time after I take a photo I'm guaranteed to lose one of the little buggers (again)... just kidding, I knew exactly where he was *cough*
Have GCAM installed from https://koopahtmaniac.com/index.php but I'm not sure on this thing, a whole lot of settings and seems to crash sometimes... shutter speed seems fine but when I load one of the configs for s10 it suddenly seems to take longer to take a picture
Any help appreciated
Cheers
B
So, got my phone yesterday and wanted to test the camera out. The s21 ultra will cost me around 60USD per month so I want to be blown away when moving up from s9+. But, so far I have experienced a "meh" situation where of course, the image on the screen is good, the scrolling is fantastic with 120Hz and the stereo speakers are awesome. But the image quality when just firing up the camera app and not doing any setting is just "meh". I am not impressed so far. I took some photos in the house today. Mostly with normal settings auto but the one with the deers are with pro mode and the same settings. I checked all settings and alla iso(plus rest) parameters. Am I missing something? Or why am I not impressed going from s9+ to s21 ultra?
I have not tested 4k/60fps video yet but I am already thinking of returning the phone and waiting for a good second hand version. Uploading some pictures. Let me know if I should test in another way
Forgot to add that the left pictures are always s21 ultra
Started checking the tube for some comparison and I mean videos, the look really good. I think just perhaps shooting neutral and color correct will do a nice job
Return the Phone.
I u are not happy with it.
I am just wondering if it's me, the phone or something else that makes me feel that s9+ to 21 ultra is not a big leap. I am planning to use my gimbal with my phone to capture some nice b-roll movies but what I can see so far not much has happened to the images. I am afraid to use the new s21 to much as I am thinking of returning it but I really want it to be a good buy, but already after 1 day I am thinking of a return. Perhaps I was expecting VHS to bluray difference but cameras are already so good that it's hard to make giant leaps.
It's not a big leap in terms of camera. Personally I regret not returning it in time. Now I am stuck with it and the main problem for me is the weight. I bought it thinking I was going to use this for years but now I can't stand the thought of holding this brick for so long. Also, the photos are not a huge step forward. There are instances where I see more details but also more noise. I find them to be noisy and videos blotchy in low light. I mean, the truth is, it's not worth the money. Also, pay attention to the photos you are taking with it, because the S21 Ultra has the HDR processing on, no matter if you turn it off or not. So, if you see any difference between your S9+ and S21, it's actually the HDR. The biggest problem of them all is the fact that I cannot find a good alternative to it. All of the other flagships are basically the same thing, most of them don't even have the 10x optical zoom. Cameras just cannot be better than they are now as long as they have tiny sensors. So if you do return it, you might want to hold off upgrading for some time.
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It's not a big leap in terms of camera. Personally I regret not returning it in time. Now I am stuck with it and the main problem for me is the weight. I bought it thinking I was going to use this for years but now I can't stand the thought of holding this brick for so long. Also, the photos are not a huge step forward. There are instances where I see more details but also more noise. I find them to be noisy and videos blotchy in low light. I mean, the truth is, it's not worth the money. Also, pay attention to the photos you are taking with it, because the S21 Ultra has the HDR processing on, no matter if you turn it off or not. So, if you see any difference between your S9+ and S21, it's actually the HDR. The biggest problem of them all is the fact that I cannot find a good alternative to it. All of the other flagships are basically the same thing, most of them don't even have the 10x optical zoom. Cameras just cannot be better than they are now as long as they have tiny sensors. So if you do return it, you might want to hold off upgrading for some time.
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Thanks, this is exactly what I was afraid of. I want to create some nice b-roll movies and I have a good gimbal for my phone. It feels like with a stable camera and normal daylight, there will be no difference. It's only if I want to do alot of lowlight or wide angle shots. It's just not worth the 60USD/month when I have an ok phone. I will wait for the s22 and see if it has some new power. According to the new qualcom the nextgen chip will wonders....but that is what every generation of phone says also, but when it comes to daily use I have not seen big leaps.
Tomorrow I will return the phone and sorry for all you s21u lovers, this one wasn't for me.
Thanks again @Randi03 for giving an open and honest view of the phone from a daily user
Glad to be of help. I also hope the next generations will bring something new and worth upgrading to... For me personally I will do my best to test them before buying and ignore all the hype from the manufacturers and the reviews.
A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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The snapdragon version is better than the Exynos because it gives good performance in all aspects. The camera quality is best compared to the Exynos version.
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A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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I did not set the camera to optimal settings. I wanted to try the s21ultra "out of the box". I tested some pictures on auto mode and when I switched to pro mode I made sure to at least use the same settings. Then of course we can discuss if the settings where optimal but this was not the point. 2 phones with same settings where one is a couple of generations behind should not have almost same quality pictures. And I cannot show you side-by-side the displays in preview mode but in some places I saw better preview of the image in the camera app on the s9+.
There is no doubt that the s21ultra is better, it is, but it's not 60USD/month better with my current phone
Well, I wanted to be wow-ed and really looke forward to the s21 ultra but yesterday I returned it. Waiting for the next generation but will really really check comparison videos before I decide anything
S22 is a note rather than an S
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I did not set the camera to optimal settings. I wanted to try the s21ultra "out of the box". I tested some pictures on auto mode and when I switched to pro mode I made sure to at least use the same settings. Then of course we can discuss if the settings where optimal but this was not the point. 2 phones with same settings where one is a couple of generations behind should not have almost same quality pictures. And I cannot show you side-by-side the displays in preview mode but in some places I saw better preview of the image in the camera app on the s9+.
There is no doubt that the s21ultra is better, it is, but it's not 60USD/month better with my current phone
Well, I wanted to be wow-ed and really looke forward to the s21 ultra but yesterday I returned it. Waiting for the next generation but will really really check comparison videos before I decide anything
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This is what I'm afraid of. I'm currently on note 10+, love it but I want better camera, by that I mean better crop ability. Gcam makes things better but I still hope those mpx do the diffrence in crop ability