Does anyone knows the difference between the tencent version 8/128 and 12/512. im only talking about the tencent version because i know that the 12/512 has a 4x4 mimo while the 8/128 only has a 2x2.
do you know the difference especially with the network band?
thank you
rein082892 said:
Does anyone knows the difference between the tencent version 8/128 and 12/512. im only talking about the tencent version because i know that the 12/512 has a 4x4 mimo while the 8/128 only has a 2x2.
do you know the difference especially with the network band?
thank you
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It appears that the 12gb/512gb version has these LTE bands
LTE
im guessing it has the same lte bands with the malaysian version.
reinreingoaway28 said:
im guessing it has the same lte bands with the malaysian version.
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It appears that the 12gb/512gb version has these LTE bands:
LTE bands
Edit: it keeps cutting off my message for some reason, but yes same as malaysian version
bluegizmo83 said:
It appears that the 12gb/512gb version has these LTE bands:
LTE bands
Edit: it keeps cutting off my message for some reason, but yes same as malaysian version
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does somebody own a tencent 12/512 and post a screenshot using network signal guru
reinreingoaway28 said:
does somebody own a tencent 12/512 and post a screenshot using network signal guru
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There is no Tencent 12gb/512gb. The Tencent version IS the 8gb/128gb version.
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There is no Tencent 12gb/512gb. The Tencent version IS the 8gb/128gb version.
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here in the philippines they are selling a 12/512 version from tencent. you can see a "Tencent Games" logo at the back of the phone which is why im confuse with its cellular band
rein082892 said:
here in the philippines they are selling a 12/512 version from tencent. you can see a "Tencent Games" logo at the back of the phone which is why im confuse with its cellular band
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That's weird... have you actually seen a 512gb Tencent logo version in person, like in a store or something? Or just online sales? If just online, they could just be using the same picture for both...
its just in grey market they bought it from china.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VuG67E1QREd8nKeC65airh-VAZPaFk3b/view?usp=sharing
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That's weird... have you actually seen a 512gb Tencent logo version in person, like in a store or something? Or just online sales? If just online, they could just be using the same picture for both...
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Here it is. See the link. i cant upload the picture.
You can tell thats its a 512 version from its vent because its a glass and no aluminum.
You can see a "Tencent Games" at the back of the phone
rein082892 said:
Does anyone knows the difference between the tencent version 8/128 and 12/512. im only talking about the tencent version because i know that the 12/512 has a 4x4 mimo while the 8/128 only has a 2x2.
do you know the difference especially with the network band?
thank you
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I wonder too whats the different, I pre-ordered 12GB-RAM/512GB Tencent Version from local store (in Malaysia). Saw in Youtube/Facebook someone unboxing 12/512 tencent version, box is hexagon shape with active cooler 2 & 30 watt charger right out of the box. I guess maybe the ROM is in china version
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It appears that the 12gb/512gb version has these LTE bands:
LTE bands
Edit: it keeps cutting off my message for some reason, but yes same as malaysian version
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Does this mean that the Tencent 12/256 hardware is the same as the global version? (LTE Bands, 4x4 MIMO, 802.11 ad)
ericbajana said:
Does this mean that the Tencent 12/256 hardware is the same as the global version? (LTE Bands, 4x4 MIMO, 802.11 ad)
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From what I've seen, all the 8gb/128gb versions share the same bands, and all the 12gb/512gb versions share the same bands, regardless of ROM... but then again there is a ton of conflicting info out there, and I wasn't even aware there was a 512gb Tencent model, so I really can't say for sure.
bluegizmo83 said:
From what I've seen, all the 8gb/128gb versions share the same bands, and all the 12gb/512gb versions share the same bands, regardless of ROM... but then again there is a ton of conflicting info out there, and I wasn't even aware there was a 512gb Tencent model, so I really can't say for sure.
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r u sure because I want to buy 512gb china version
Folks, i have now both versions at home from Tencent... the 8GB/128GB and 12GB/512GB... just happened so that first I ordered the 8GB version and then I noticed that LTE band 20 is missing... what was important for me. The shp told me that the 12 GB version has the LTE band 20. So I ordered the 12 GB and need to return the 8GB. But as I have them now both side by side, maybe I can answer some questions here until I will send back the 8 GB version.
The 12 GB had the Aero Cooler and 30W charger with 2 cables (USB type A to C, and USB Type C to C). The 8 GB did not come with this accessories. The cover from 8GB versin was a transparent plastic cover, the 12 GB version comes with this skeleton look case.. (forgot that name).
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Folks, i have now both versions at home from Tencent... the 8GB/128GB and 12GB/512GB... just happened so that first I ordered the 8GB version and then I noticed that LTE band 20 is missing... what was important for me. The shp told me that the 12 GB version has the LTE band 20. So I ordered the 12 GB and need to return the 8GB. But as I have them now both side by side, maybe I can answer some questions here until I will send back the 8 GB version.
The 12 GB had the Aero Cooler and 30W charger with 2 cables (USB type A to C, and USB Type C to C). The 8 GB did not come with this accessories. The cover from 8GB versin was a transparent plastic cover, the 12 GB version comes with this skeleton look case.. (forgot that name).
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Try *#2263# into the phone dialer, see if it opens the hidden band selection menu like on other phones.
bluegizmo83 said:
Try *#2263# into the phone dialer, see if it opens the hidden band selection menu like on other phones.
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I get "Connection problem or invalid MMI code"...
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I get "Connection problem or invalid MMI code"...
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Ok thanks. It was worth a try. It works on Samsung phones but not all phones. There is usually a code though that opens hidden menus like that on all phones, they're just not always the same code.
geffect said:
Folks, i have now both versions at home from Tencent... the 8GB/128GB and 12GB/512GB... just happened so that first I ordered the 8GB version and then I noticed that LTE band 20 is missing... what was important for me. The shp told me that the 12 GB version has the LTE band 20. So I ordered the 12 GB and need to return the 8GB. But as I have them now both side by side, maybe I can answer some questions here until I will send back the 8 GB version.
The 12 GB had the Aero Cooler and 30W charger with 2 cables (USB type A to C, and USB Type C to C). The 8 GB did not come with this accessories. The cover from 8GB versin was a transparent plastic cover, the 12 GB version comes with this skeleton look case.. (forgot that name).
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Were you able to confirm that the 12GB version indeed include LTE band 20?
ericbajana said:
Were you able to confirm that the 12GB version indeed include LTE band 20?
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Yes, I an confirm this. I NEVER found connection to the 20 band on my 8GB phone... with the 12GB phone I now see band 20.
Left photo is from 8GB, right from 12 GB.
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Where can I find one that'll work with tmobile?
You'd have to purchase an international unlocked version from a website like clove.co.uk
When you check out there is an option for them to open the box and insert a local sim card to unlock the device for use in other markets.
Looking for the same thing. Is there a reliable online US source for the 512gb black Note 9? Also what will we be losing by getting an unlocked version, I guess besides video calling on TMobile? TMobile Tuesday..?
dominick_7 said:
Looking for the same thing. Is there a reliable online US source for the 512gb black Note 9? Also what will we be losing by getting an unlocked version, I guess besides video calling on TMobile? TMobile Tuesday..?
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You can download the T-Mobile Tuesdays app from the Google Play Store.
It works on any phone,provided you have a T-Mobile account.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.tuesdays&hl=en_US
Same goes for T-Mobile DIGITS,just grab the app from the Play Store,log-in & set-up.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.digits&hl=en_US
As for what you'll be losing?
LTE Band71
Not sure how well an international version works as far as signal strength/WI-FI Calling/VoLTE,but,my guess would be to go with a dual SIM version that has the QUALCOMM Snapdragon chip vs the Samsung Exynos Chip:
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 8GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...2a:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930713601
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 6GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...57:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521918316706
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Samsung EXYNOS 8 GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...15:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930711183
Samsung EXYNOS 6 GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...ff:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=502408235508
KOLIOSIS said:
You can download the T-Mobile Tuesdays app from the Google Play Store.
It works on any phone,provided you have a T-Mobile account.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.tuesdays&hl=en_US
Same goes for T-Mobile DIGITS,just grab the app from the Play sSore,log-in & set-up.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tmobile.digits&hl=en_US
As for what you'll be losing?
LTE Band71
Not sure how well an international version works as far as signal strength/WI-FI Calling/VoLTE,but,my guess would be to go with a dual SIM version that has the QUALCOMM Snapdragon chip vs the Samsung Exynos Chip:
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 8GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...2a:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930713601
Qualcomm SnapDragon 845 6GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...57:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521918316706
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Samsung EXYNOS 8 GB RAM/256GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...15:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=521930711183
Samsung EXYNOS 6 GB RAM/128GB ROM:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...ff:m:mFp3KmUg-oF2jvLgEK2Vr_A&var=502408235508
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Cool, thank you for clarifying. About the band, are you sure, people are reporting it has LTE band71? Also do we know which is better, the Snapdragon for the 8gb version or Exynos for 6gb? I guess there's only root for the exynos, but I haven't rooted in years and not sure I'll mess with it.
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Cool, thank you for clarifying. About the band, are you sure, people are reporting it has LTE band71? Also do we know which is better, the Snapdragon for the 8gb version or Exynos for 6gb? I guess there's only root for the exynos, but I haven't rooted in years and not sure I'll mess with it.
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I know the US Qualcomm has Band 71,but,every site,including Samsung's sites in overseas Qualcomm markets,do not show Band 71.
Perhaps once the T-Mobile US SIM Card is installed,it's activated,if that's even possible,with or without flashing T-Mobile US Firmware...... & IDK if T-Mobile US Firmware can be flashed on an international Qualcomm model.
It's still early in the game, surely someone will post here @ XDA in the coming days.
I'd like to know myself, so that I'm armed with the information for next year's Note 10.
Canada has an unlocked black model that uses the same bands as the US. Not sure about band 71, but probably the closest you'd get compatibility wise.
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I know the US Qualcomm has Band 71,but,every site,including Samsung's sites in overseas Qualcomm markets,do not show Band 71.
Perhaps once the T-Mobile US SIM Card is installed,it's activated,if that's even possible,with or without flashing T-Mobile US Firmware...... & IDK if T-Mobile US Firmware can be flashed on an international Qualcomm model.
It's still early in the game, surely someone will post here @ XDA in the coming days.
I'd like to know myself, so that I'm armed with the information for next year's Note 10.
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Ah k. So does that mean even if I buy the 8gb 512gb unlocked version from say Best Buy in the US it won't have band 71? Otherwise it sounds like the ideal situation would be if the TMobile firmware can be flashed to the international model? I guess Im wondering, are all 512gb unlocked versions lacking that band or just ones not bought in the US like from Best Buy? I know I want the 8gb 512gb version, in black if possible, but if Im without band 71 I can deal with the stupid blue colored one as long as I have the 8gb/512gb version. They seem to be saying VoLTE and wifi calling works on the unlocked version.. does that mean it has band 71? https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...208-carrier-vs-unlocked-note-9-questions.html.
dominick_7 said:
Ah k. So does that mean even if I buy the 8gb 512gb unlocked version from say Best Buy in the US it won't have band 71? Otherwise it sounds like the ideal situation would be if the TMobile firmware can be flashed to the international model? I guess Im wondering, are all 512gb unlocked versions lacking that band or just ones not bought in the US like from Best Buy? I know I want the 8gb 512gb version, in black if possible, but if Im without band 71 I can deal with the stupid blue colored one as long as I have the 8gb/512gb version.
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I'm pretty sure the US Unlocked version has Band 71,it's just not available in Black,at least for now.
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs
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Band 71 is not listed on Best Buy's specs.
Looks like your best bet is to wait for others to post their experiences, or,contact Samsung/check their site.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note9-128gb-unlocked-ocean-blue/6278210.p?skuId=6278210
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@dominick_7
Here's another site stating the US Unlocked version does indeed have Band 71,so you'll definitely have to do your homework before buying:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/
KOLIOSIS said:
I'm pretty sure the US Unlocked version has Band 71,it's just not available in Black,st least for now.
Sent from my SM-N960U using XDA Labs
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@Dominick
Band 71 is not listed on Best Buy's specs.
Looks like your beet bet is to wait for others to post their experiences, or,contact Samsung/check their site.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-galaxy-note9-128gb-unlocked-ocean-blue/6278210.p?skuId=6278210
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Ah k. So safest bet for the 512gb variant is either the US carrier/tmobile for quickest updates but stupid colors and bloatware or thee US unlocked for slower updates but less bloatware..? What's the argument to get an unlocked version over carrier otherwise? I guess the price for getting it in black is no 71 band. Still looking at the canadian one to see if it has 71. https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/.
Edit.. crap. wait if these people are reporting the US unlocked has VoLTE and wifi calling doesnt that mean it has band 71 or..? https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...208-carrier-vs-unlocked-note-9-questions.html
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Guyinlaca said:
Canada has an unlocked black model that uses the same bands as the US. Not sure about band 71, but probably the closest you'd get compatibility wise.
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Cool, do you know what the model number is? And why go with unlocked, just for the black color and less bloat even though it may have slower updates?
KOLIOSIS said:
I know the US Qualcomm has Band 71,but,every site,including Samsung's sites in overseas Qualcomm markets,do not show Band 71.
Perhaps once the T-Mobile US SIM Card is installed,it's activated,if that's even possible,with or without flashing T-Mobile US Firmware...... & IDK if T-Mobile US Firmware can be flashed on an international Qualcomm model.
It's still early in the game, surely someone will post here @ XDA in the coming days.
I'd like to know myself, so that I'm armed with the information for next year's Note 10.
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International models are exynos not Qualcomm
dominick_7 said:
Cool, do you know what the model number is? And why go with unlocked, just for the black color and less bloat even though it may have slower updates?
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SM-N960WZKAXAC
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...12854642.aspx?
TechOut said:
International models are exynos not Qualcomm
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There's Qualcomm powered phones in China,Japan,Latin America & North America.
The rest have Exynos.
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SM-N960WZKAXAC
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product...12854642.aspx?
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Thats not listed here, https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-9-sm-n960-model-number-differences/ yet, and it seems thats the 128gb model though right?
The Canadian model probably has band 71. I don't know if anything has changed since T-Mobile's acquisition of band 71.
So annoying ghat the USA has odd bands compared to everyone else right?
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So annoying ghat the USA has odd bands compared to everyone else right?
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Agreed, I wish I could have purchased a black one without having to jump through all the hoops and risk it not working as well.
I've got the exynos 512/8 midnight black and I will be working in the USA for a few months. Wondering what network over there will be the best fit. Usually it's either T Mobile or ATT as they are GSM... But his band 71 gig means that I am effectively unable to use tmo 4g?
mikey_sk said:
I've got the exynos 512/8 midnight black and I will be working in the USA for a few months. Wondering what network over there will be the best fit. Usually it's either T Mobile or ATT as they are GSM... But his band 71 gig means that I am effectively unable to use tmo 4g?
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No,T-Mobile has Bands 2/4/5/12/66/71
Band 71 deployment is sparse at best ATM.
Most of T-Mobile users are covered in the rest.
Depending on where you plan to use your phone the most is going to dictate who works best for you.
There is a lot of overlap in most densely populated markets,if you're going to be in the sparsely populated areas AT&T is probably your best bet.
Try out this site,it should give you a good indication of which carriers are best for you:
https://www.cellmapper.net/map
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@mikey_sk
I've since edited to remove the VZW recommendation for rural areas,or,just in general,with your phone.
AT&T still likely has a slight advantage in rural areas,check the link I posted for a good indicator on which works best for you.
If you have the D/S version,then,of course you have the luxury of using both T-Mobile & AT&T,if you choose to do so.
Another BTW:
If you're going to be using a fair amount of data & are considering saving some $$$ by using pre-paid MVNOs of AT&T or T-Mobile,be aware all of them are subject to,if not outright,slower speeds vs the main carrier itself.
This is particularly true of any pre-paid option on AT&T & the MVNO's that use their network,read the fine print on any pre-paid service you choose,some have really slow speeds/throttling.
As for MVNO's/prepaid,your best bet is likely MetroPCS,which is actually part of T-Mobile US & most customers are genuinely pleased with the service/speeds & ovearll value.
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No,T-Mobile has Bands 2/4/5/12/66/71
Band 71 deployment is sparse at best ATM.
Most of T-Mobile users are covered in the rest.
Depending on where you plan to use your phone the most is going to dictate who works best for you.
There is a lot of overlap in most densely populated markets,if you're going to be in the sparsely populated areas AT&T is probably your best bet.
Try out this site,it should give you a good indication of which carriers are best for you:
https://www.cellmapper.net/map
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@mikey_sk
I've since edited to remove the VZW recommendation for rural areas,or,just in general,with your phone.
AT&T still likely has a slight advantage in rural areas,check the link I posted for a good indicator on which works best for you.
If you have the D/S version,then,of course you have the luxury of using both T-Mobile & AT&T,if you choose to do so.
Another BTW:
If you're going to be using a fair amount of data & are considering saving some $$$ by using pre-paid MVNOs of AT&T or T-Mobile,be aware all of them are subject to,if not outright,slower speeds vs the main carrier itself.
This is particularly true of any pre-paid option on AT&T & the MVNO's that use their network,read the fine print on any pre-paid service you choose,some have really slow speeds/throttling.
As for MVNO's/prepaid,your best bet is likely MetroPCS,which is actually part of T-Mobile US & most customers are genuinely pleased with the service/speeds & ovearll value.
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Thanks. Yes I know they provide slower speeds to MVNOs over there. In Europe they dont really do this so pre paid is as quick as a contract sim. I am on Three UK and I can use my data (I have 100gb allowance per month) in the USA for free so will only be using the pre paid for receiving calls. I am therefore able to pick either T Mobile or ATT when I am over there depending which one is best etc.
Hi Guys,
reffering to the below blog the Mi9 China version supports LTE Band 20
https://www.chinamobilemag.de/news/xiaomi-mi-9-china-band-20-lte.html
That would be pretty cool so european users can buy a chinese Explorer Edition or the 8/256 GB China versions too without lacking Band 20 Support.
I have just bought China version one yesterday, hoping to support B20, but surprise me it seems not having B20.
I refer to Mi website itself does not support B20,
China version: https://www.mi.com/mi9/specs/
Global version: https://www.mi.com/global/mi9/specs/
Without a proper screenshot of Network cell info application with band 20 working, i don't trust him.
how we can check this?
Vihru said:
how we can check this?
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Someone with the Chinese device would have to download LTE discovery from the Play Store & see if the mast they connect to supports band 20, & see if they connect to it..
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Flash-User said:
Hi Guys,
reffering to the below blog the Mi9 China version supports LTE Band 20
https://www.chinamobilemag.de/news/xiaomi-mi-9-china-band-20-lte.html
That would be pretty cool so european users can buy a chinese Explorer Edition or the 8/256 GB China versions too without lacking Band 20 Support.
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I think you need to change the title, all information we have so far suggests that it doesn't support Band 20, including Xiaomi's official website.
The 2 latest devices from them, Pocophone & Mix 3 both have hardware locked Band's so it seems flashing Global would be useless too.
I think the blog is wrong...
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how we can check this?
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only having the phone in hand (8GB version at this point, since it's the only difference from other users with 6GB and B20 LTE not working) and under B20 only network coverage.
IronFly said:
only having the phone in hand (8GB version at this point, since it's the only difference from other users with 6GB and B20 LTE not working) and under B20 only network coverage.
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i have chinese 8gb 128gb model..
Vihru said:
i have chinese 8gb 128gb model..
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What country are you in?
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
What country are you in?
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Finland..
Vihru said:
Finland..
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You could try this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
Not sure if your carrier supports Band 20 or not, this is something you'd have to find out from them I believe, or Google.
TheInfiniteAndroid said:
You could try this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
Not sure if your carrier supports Band 20 or not, this is something you'd have to find out from them I believe, or Google.
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that app dont work, maybe need root or something.
i know my carrier support b20 (800mhz).
Vihru said:
that app dont work, maybe need root or something.
i know my carrier support b20 (800mhz).
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You don't need root, as long as you give it permissions it will work fine
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You don't need root, as long as you give it permissions it will work fine
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it dont show band... just unknown.. not working.
Vihru said:
it dont show band... just unknown.. not working.
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Screenshot?
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Screenshot?
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here
Try this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wilysis.cellinfolite
you can use Cellular-Z from Playstore.
it shows the network you are currently connected to at the top and all other networks that your phone detects at the bottom.
you can also switch between both sim cards (slots at the top)
for example in my screenshots it shows that I'm currently using a band 20 network. and there are some others in the area.
both suggested apps are similar but I find cellular z to be more user friendly.
as a side note: I have a Redme note 5 (china) variant that does not have Band 20. the same phone is able to connect to LTE network where I live but it uses a different cell tower B3. you should check your providers cell tower map to see if there are any band 20s in your area.
Vihru said:
that app dont work, maybe need root or something.
i know my carrier support b20 (800mhz).
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Hi,
What kind type ROM do you use?
Global or original Chines?
lacika888 said:
Hi,
What kind type ROM do you use?
Global or original Chines?
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orginal chinese because cant flash yet any other. locked bootloader
B!GBOY said:
for example in my screenshots it shows that I'm currently using a band 20 network. and there are some others in the area.
both suggested apps are similar but I find cellular z to be more user friendly.
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is yours a Mi 9 8GB or the screenshot is just for reference?
Screenshot from today's conference
No 8gb/128gb global release version, what the hell are they think...
bluegizmo83 said:
No 8gb/128gb global release version, what the hell are they think...
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Pretty sure that was the original plan. Only Tencent has the smaller versions.
barry99705 said:
Pretty sure that was the original plan. Only Tencent has the smaller versions.
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Maybe, but they would have undoubtedly sold exponentially more devices if they'd release it globally...
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Maybe, but they would have undoubtedly sold exponentially more devices if they'd release it globally...
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It'll probably come a month or 2 later. Will not releasing that SKU.
128GB/8G is only for China
barry99705 said:
Pretty sure that was the original plan. Only Tencent has the smaller versions.
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I'm pretty sure 128GB version was only for China. reset of the world will get 512GB or above.. so if anyone want 128GB version they've to get Chinese version.
ismailonrails said:
I'm pretty sure 128GB version was only for China. reset of the world will get 512GB or above.. so if anyone want 128GB version they've to get Chinese version.
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They gotta have a reason to charge everyone else double the price.
Found a Asus Retailer - Global Version ROG 2 12GB/512GB - Releasing on Sep 23
Hello,
I found a site providing with release date for NA or Global release. I'm not sure but can be trusted as its a Asus retailer in NA,
Releasing on Sep 23, 2019
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https://www.mobileadvance.com/asus-rog-gaming-phone-ii-zs660kl-s855p-12g512g-bk-6-6-fhd-2340x1080-hdr-120hz-display-48mp-13mp-camera-12gb-ram-512gb-storage-lte-unlocked-dual-sim-cell-phone-us-warranty-black/
suresh1391 said:
Hello,
I found a site providing with release date for NA or Global release. I'm not sure but can be trusted as its a Asus retailer in NA,
https://www.mobileadvance.com/asus-...locked-dual-sim-cell-phone-us-warranty-black/
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Update GLOBAL version Asus ROG II is available in USA as on
23 sep 2019
From above site for 899 $USD
interested people can check it out
ASUS USA Retailer
https://www.mobileadvance.com/asus-...locked-dual-sim-cell-phone-us-warranty-black/
ASUS Official Store
https://store.asus.com/us/item/201909AM110000002/ASUS+ROG+Gaming+Phone+II+%28ZS660KL-S855P-12G512G-BK%29+-+6.6%E2%80%9D+FHD%2B+2340x1080+HDR+120Hz+Display+-+48MP%2F13MP+Camera+%E2%80%93+12GB+RAM+-+512GB+Storage+-+LTE+Unlocked+Dual+SIM+Cell+Phone+-+US+Warranty+-+Black,
ismailonrails said:
I'm pretty sure 128GB version was only for China. reset of the world will get 512GB or above.. so if anyone want 128GB version they've to get Chinese version.
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Apparently, they are selling the 128 GB version on INDIA too. And it isn't the Tencent VErsion. It is the global version one, with the aero case, but with the 18W charger and no cooler.
Here's the proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlXsVYQDwM
If it actually comes with WW firmware natively, I'm planning on buying that one.
D_Gabe said:
Apparently, they are selling the 128 GB version on INDIA too. And it isn't the Tencent VErsion. It is the global version one, with the aero case, but with the 18W charger and no cooler.
Here's the proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZlXsVYQDwM
If it actually comes with WW firmware natively, I'm planning on buying that one.
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Which LTE Bands does it have?
mzahiri said:
Which LTE Bands does it have?
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Don't really know. That's why I made a thread asking for info. Had no idea that one existed. Watch the review carefully. It's like a hybrid between the Tencent version and the global one.
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Don't really know. That's why I made a thread asking for info. Had no idea that one existed. Watch the review carefully. It's like a hybrid between the Tencent version and the global one.
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Watched the video. Pretty interesting compared to the Tencent version.
Interested in finding out which LTE bands are available. Doesn't make sense from a manufacturing perspective to have all these different versions.
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Which LTE Bands does it have?
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Here are some of the details of this version. No LTE Band info, though.
D_Gabe said:
Here are some of the details of this version. No LTE Band info, though.
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The Indian model is listed as having VoLTE and the only retailer I can find that has it listed is Flipkart. They list the model number as
ZS660KL-1A017IN
I'm guessing India is getting their own special version. IIRC Indian law requires a certain percentage of the phone to be manufactured in India.
mzahiri said:
The Indian model is listed as having VoLTE and the only retailer I can find that has it listed is Flipkart. They list the model number as
ZS660KL-1A017IN
I'm guessing India is getting their own special version. IIRC Indian law requires a certain percentage of the phone to be manufactured in India.
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If it has the global firmware I would want to get it. It's basically the Global version but with 128 GB ROM and 8 gb RAM.
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Which LTE Bands does it have?
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I checked Kimovil yesterday regarding tencent version's supported bands for India, and it has all the necessary ones. Which leads me to believe that the phone will be very similar to the tencent version, with some better stuff like aero case and global firmware, but not that far off. For those without a ROG 2 yet it seems worth it to get it form there, but without expecting any additional bands IMO.
Swooshpragler said:
I checked Kimovil yesterday regarding tencent version's supported bands for India, and it has all the necessary ones. Which leads me to believe that the phone will be very similar to the tencent version, with some better stuff like aero case and global firmware, but not that far off. For those without a ROG 2 yet it seems worth it to get it form there, but without expecting any additional bands IMO.
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It isn't the Tencent version, though...
D_Gabe said:
It isn't the Tencent version, though...
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I didn't say it is.
I said that the tencent version already has all LTE Bands for India, so the "India version", however different it may be with the aero case, global firmware, etc., most likely won't have a change of LTE Bands. At least that's what I think.
suresh1391 said:
Update GLOBAL version Asus ROG II is available in USA as on
23 sep 2019
From above site for 899 $USD
interested people can check it out
ASUS USA Retailer
https://www.mobileadvance.com/asus-...locked-dual-sim-cell-phone-us-warranty-black/
ASUS Official Store
https://store.asus.com/us/item/201909AM110000002/ASUS+ROG+Gaming+Phone+II+%28ZS660KL-S855P-12G512G-BK%29+-+6.6%E2%80%9D+FHD%2B+2340x1080+HDR+120Hz+Display+-+48MP%2F13MP+Camera+%E2%80%93+12GB+RAM+-+512GB+Storage+-+LTE+Unlocked+Dual+SIM+Cell+Phone+-+US+Warranty+-+Black,
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Thanks for the link, I ordered one directly from Asus. Wasn't crazy about $70 in tax but at least I know I will have a valid warranty and I can return it if I need to without a hassle.
When I looking for Asus ROG 2 Phone in EU (with 128GB) I only find the ZS660KL-1A050EU. This version of the ROG 2 don't support FDD-LTE B20 aka 800MHz which means it is useless and you need to go for the 512GB version.
Now they sell in Germany a new 128GB version I001DE. I can not find any information about this version but it looks like this version support 800MHz LTE.
If someone got this version, can u confirm this?
Linuxkek said:
When I looking for Asus ROG 2 Phone in EU (with 128GB) I only find the ZS660KL-1A050EU. This version of the ROG 2 don't support FDD-LTE B20 aka 800MHz which means it is useless and you need to go for the 512GB version.
Now they sell in Germany a new 128GB version I001DE. I can not find any information about this version but it looks like this version support 800MHz LTE.
If someone got this version, can u confirm this?
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As far as I'm aware, none of the 128 versions have b20
asus i001de 128GB 8 ram
I think I might get one ....... soon I'll be back.....
..............4hrs later.............. it's model and specs are by its official name which is known as ROG PHONE 2 STRIX EDITION that is what you should look for it is the 3rd eedition which is the cheapest yet as performing as the other 2 edition.
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands and you can get it in lower storage capacities than the global one. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
Sugaaa said:
Wondering how the reception is on the Chinese version in the U.S like on T-Mobile? Can anyone share their experiences? Any dropped calls, how's the 5g and 4g lte? The Chinese version says tencent on the back of the phone.
For 5g, it only has band 41 2.5GHz. It's missing band 71 600 MHz and the other 260 and 261 bands for 5G high speed mmwave.
For 4G LTE, it's missing bands 66, 12, and 71.
There's also a guide here showing you how to enable voLTE. Maybe someone can try that and share.
I'm trying to decide between global or tencent but the tencent is like $200-$300 cheaper because of the missing bands. Wondering how it actually performs in the U.S
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My buddy has the tencent version and has no signal at times, when I do on my a version. Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
bs3pro said:
Stop being cheap, and spend the $ for the a version. No band 12,66, and 71 is a deal breaker imo.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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512gb is overkill for me. I'd be fine with 128gb. I'd only pay $1000+ for iPhone 12 pro. imo, Android over $1000 isn't worth it due to its faster depreciation. Trying to see how the Chinese one actually performs.
I'm curious what bands the lenovo legion phone is going to have on its unreleased global variant too. If that comes with volte support, and priced significantly less than than the version a rog, I'll probably go with that.
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Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
bs3pro said:
Move along then. My buddy is sending his tencent rog back. It works terrible. That legion is terrible. Sounds like you should just but an apple.
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You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
Sugaaa said:
You seem pretty experienced with the rog phones. Have you owned the first or second model because I'm mostly wondering how they perform after 2-3 years. I'm trying to get a new phone that will last me around 3 years without getting buggy and slow. If you have had one of the older ones, how are they after like 2 years with the updates? I read that asus also stops updating after the first year so does that affect overall performance after 2-3 years
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I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
bs3pro said:
I had the rog2, but get new phones every few months. Sorry, cant help there. Like i said, just buy an apple, very good HW, and SW is very reliable with plenty of updates.
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The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
Sugaaa said:
The only reason I'm considering the rog 3 is because of the amazing Emulator support on 3ds,psp, and ps2 which iphone lacks. Just wish there was more info out there on this phone.
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INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
bs3pro said:
INFO? Like what? I just gave you the answers. This i why i deleted the other thread. People dont like the answers they get, so they assume its BS. The tencent is not worth the savings IF you live in the US. Plain and simple.
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I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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Lol, I just told you. 12gb, 512 IS the smallest in usa. Whatever, I'm done repeating myself
Sugaaa said:
I don't understand how there's only a 512gb variant in the global version. On their global website, it says upto 512gb so their should be 256gb and 128gb variants too but there are none for sale.
If there was the other variants, the price would match their Chinese version and I would buy it on the spot.
What also bothers me is no definite release date in the u.s. so I don't know when to look forward to when they release the smaller storage size, I grow impatient easily
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bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
Thanks for the clarification but I still think the point stands for the actual specs as opposed to the region of production
bs3pro said:
Wrong. The Hong Kong version is a also. It's the one I have. There's also Germany A version
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Can you put a link to the chinese version a you bought on ebay for 1000 if it's even still available. I'm only seeing global version a 12gb 512gb for 1200
TehAdventurer said:
bs3pro is right in this case. First and foremost, your money your choice, but you can only buy what is available on the market. At present the only A Version (which is the expected version to be made available in the US) specs are 12 GB + 512GB or 16GB + 512GB and are imported model. That said an A Version from wherever and an A Version from the US are both still A Versions with the same internal modem for T Mobile bands. It still remains to be seen when and if a 128 GB or 256 GB models are released with the A Version modem.
However, it is ill advised to purchase a model that is severely lacking band coverage as both the Tencent and B Version modems do not have support for LTE bands 66 and 71 which are important to T Mobile in particular. Honestly what is going to save you more money, buy a phone missing crucial bands because it's cheaper, and then having to get a new phone due to lack of coverage and performance, or wait and see your options and then decide.
If you are truly in dire need of a new phone you may just want to consider a different brand and shop around a little because impatience won't do any good for you or your wallet.
EDIT: To try and put this to rest, Asus Taiwan is the only country who produces and sells A Versions phones, here is the ROG phone 3 store page. These are the only models currently for sale that support T Mobile here in the States link for posterity, sorry if it's not allowed:
store.asus.com/tw/category/D5913
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Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
Sugaaa said:
Thanks. That was some solid advice. I found the taiwan version online for around $1250 with tax which was the lowest. I was going to get that and the asus kunai 3 gamepad for $200-$300 but I ended up ordering the oneplus 8 pro 12gb 256gb for $820 with tax and I'll just pick up the razer kishi gamepad for $100. I find it suits my needs better after finding out the oneplus 8 pro runs all the same games in the emulators and it's ip68 water resistant. Plus, I save $500-$600 and it has all the same tmobile bands. Just gonna miss out on that 6000mah battery.
I couldn't even find a decent case for the rog 3 let alone a water resistant one. It's a must for working out.
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Yeah, that's honestly was I was trying to get at. There's no reason to try and force yourself to like a phone that doesn't check every box for you, especially at it's price point. It's much better to get something that makes you happy and functions well than something that you forced yourself to like. Glad I could help!