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Very Weak Note 4 Vibration Strength

I'm really starting to question some of the design choices Samsung made on the Note 4 when it comes to usability. Specs don't mean anything if it's not a functional phone.
Even on the highest level of Vibration intensity, the Note 4's vibration is *extremely* weak.
Now, I may be biased as I see vibration as one of the basic functions of a device and the Note 4 would be very hard to notice under ANY circumstances. I'd be willing to bet most people would be hard pressed to notice it in their pocket for any type of notification, including phone calls.
Has any one else noticed this?

akula34 said:
I'm really starting to question some of the design choices Samsung made on the Note 4 when it comes to usability. Specs don't mean anything if it's not a functional phone.
Even on the highest level of Vibration intensity, the Note 4's vibration is *extremely* weak.
Now, I may be biased as I see vibration as one of the basic functions of a device and the Note 4 would be very hard to notice under ANY circumstances. I'd be willing to bet most people would be hard pressed to notice it in their pocket for any type of notification, including phone calls.
Has any one else noticed this?
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Samsung is horrible when it comes to vibration strength. I think HTC hits it on spot with every phone they turn out. This issue has been one of my biggest on all Samsung phones and I have had them all. I work in a loud areas all the time and people get upset when I don't respond to text or emails. With the Note 4, I sure hope it's no worse than the past phones. I'll have mine Note come Friday.
Enjoy your new toy lol!!!

The note 2 's vibration shakes my whole desk at work and it's extremely loud. I hope it's turned down from the note 2. I do have my gear neo to get notifications from my phone though.
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jyan_osu said:
The note 2 's vibration shakes my whole desk at work and it's extremely loud. I hope it's turned down from the note 2. I do have my gear neo to get notifications from my phone though.
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I had the Note 2 as well and it was the same case of low vibration. Depending on what type of case you have on the phone and what type of table/desk it's laying on, then yeah it does just fine I agree, but In the pocket it really sucks.

I guess it all depends on personal preference. Even with that aside, I don't see any issue with the vibration intensity with the N4. If you can't feel that in your pocket then Maybe I'll pick pocket you. j/k
Keep in mind the thinness of the phone. Why waste any more space on a vibrator?
To me it's plentiful. It's fine.
akula34 said:
I'm really starting to question some of the design choices Samsung made on the Note 4 when it comes to usability. Specs don't mean anything if it's not a functional phone.
Even on the highest level of Vibration intensity, the Note 4's vibration is *extremely* weak.
Now, I may be biased as I see vibration as one of the basic functions of a device and the Note 4 would be very hard to notice under ANY circumstances. I'd be willing to bet most people would be hard pressed to notice it in their pocket for any type of notification, including phone calls.
Has any one else noticed this?
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chrispyutec said:
I had the Note 2 as well and it was the same case of low vibration. Depending on what type of case you have on the phone and what type of table/desk it's laying on, then yeah it does just fine I agree, but In the pocket it really sucks.
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Ah that could be it. I don't use a case at all. Haven't my past two phones. So yeah its a bare phone sitting on my desk.
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What device did you upgrade from and how's your experience with the Note 4?

Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?

Like I said before, these are all from within a year lol.... I switched from an iphone last November 2013
First was a Xperia Z1 (battery life was eh), Galaxy S4, HTC One M7, Galaxy S5 (only thing I miss is water resistance), LG G3 (love this phone but screen was not that great and very dim in the daytime) and now to my love of my life note 4! BEAUTIFUL! only thing I don't like is no option for soft keys (menu key has LAG and I don't like the Back button on the right side.

alhadee12 said:
Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?
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Note 3 and the experience is horrible. My 4g lte isnt working but that's not for everyone's note 4 just some
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Galaxy S4. Experience has been underwhelming. Wonky GPS (loses the signal if phone is resting on my leg in the car), some apps occasionally think there is no wifi connection when there is (and being used by other apps). Aesthetically, it's a bit boxy for my taste. ART runtime isn't ready for actual use (causes the system to "update" 66 apps when I boot, extending boot time to about 5 mins, every time).

alhadee12 said:
Tell us if the Note 4 is all you thought it would be?
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I came from a Galaxy S3 and so far I'm really loving my new device. I was really close to getting the S5 but a few days/weeks after the S5 announcement, I started to read about the Note 4. It was a loooong wait but well worth it. The screen is amazing and just the size alone will make surfing the web and watching videos a lot more enjoyable.
I've played with the S-Pen and really enjoy it, which brings me to my question. I can't seem to figure out how to use the s-pen like a mouse when selecting text. I know there is an slightly different method using Air Command for this type of thing but I'm looking for the mouse-like text selecting. I thought that all I had to do was hold the button on the s-pen then drag and slide to select but it's not working for me. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

GatoL0c0 said:
I came from a Galaxy S3 and so far I'm really loving my new device. I was really close to getting the S5 but a few days/weeks after the S5 announcement, I started to read about the Note 4. It was a loooong wait but well worth it. The screen is amazing and just the size alone will make surfing the web and watching videos a lot more enjoyable.
I've played with the S-Pen and really enjoy it, which brings me to my question. I can't seem to figure out how to use the s-pen like a mouse when selecting text. I know there is an slightly different method using Air Command for this type of thing but I'm looking for the mouse-like text selecting. I thought that all I had to do was hold the button on the s-pen then drag and slide to select but it's not working for me. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
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Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.

atlprettygirl2145 said:
Note 3 and the experience is horrible. My 4g lte isnt working but that's not for everyone's note 4 just some
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I'm sorry to hear that but i came from a note 2 and on this note 4 i have amazing reception. I have lte almost everywhere i go now whereas before i had 4g

alhadee12 said:
Just hold the button on the S-Pen and hover over the text and you'll see a line that will allow you to select the text.
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Thanks, that was the piece I was missing....the slight hover at the beginning before dragging. :highfive:

Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?

alhadee12 said:
Did anyone come from a Apple product or at least tried the iPhone 6 Plus?
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My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.

From the original Galaxy ---through--> Galaxy S4 -> Note...skipped the S5 because I had the Note II -> Note III -> Now .....NOTE 4
Extremely happy with it. Can't gripe about much but here are some things I really wish they kept on or added*:
USB 3.0
Tempreture Sensor
Humidity Sensor
Speaker on the bottom and not on the back like it is now on the Note 4
4GB of RAM*
Here are the things I'm very grateful for:
The best screen EVER to date
Faster CPU
Faster GPU
METAL!
Better Camera/Sensor
Slightly bigger battery
Relocation of the SIM and microSD slot! No longer have to remove battery like you did on the Note 3
Redesigned rear cover (MUCH better, no more fake stitching)
Curved 2.5D screen
Heart Rate/O2 Sensor
UV Sensor....ehhh...either way pretty cool, but I'd rather have a TEMP and HUMIDITY sensor instead
METAL!
Did I say METAL?!
Finally what we've all been waiting for. A phone that feels like a million bucks in your hand.

RiverCity.45 said:
My wife bought a 6+ when it was released. I've used it some.
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Did you like or hate it?

alhadee12 said:
Did you like or hate it?
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I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.

RiverCity.45 said:
I didn't hate it. I'm not an iPhone guy, but my wife loves it. She hated her Android phones, so she's happy. That's good for me.
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I agree with you on that. My wife loves her iPhone as well.

The latest device I came from is the LG G3. Before that from last year, I went through the Xperia Z, HTC One M7, LG G2, Xperia Z1, before settling on Nexus 5.
I love the Note so far, first note I've tried. One thing I don't like is the lag from pressing the recents button, but I can live with it. Also not fond of the gap on the right side as I constantly have to blow the dust out, but again I can live with it. All in all best phone I've used so far and touchwiz is not as bad as it was before.
One thing though, I do like to use the pen to write my texts or Web addresses sometimes, and it's quite finicky in terms of recognizing what I type out. Sometimes I have to erase and retry several times which is annoying.

For those thinking about switching to the Axon 7..... DON'T

I just got my Axon 7 on Monday, and have played around with it for a couple days. Wanted to share my experience with it so far. I was drawn to the phone because on paper, the specs were mostly superior to the OnePlus 3. However, the ZTE software KILLS IT. It is irritating to use and without any developer support at the moment, there's not much to look forward to. In my experience, the OnePlus 3 has a faster fingerprint scanner, better camera, software, and developer support. And the high end audio on the Axon 7? Honestly the speakers are not THAT great. I find the OnePlus 3 speakers are comparable. Listening through headphones, my OnePlus 3 with Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos actually sound better than the audio from the Axon 7. The capacitive keys are not backlit, making using your phone in the dark a trial-and-error affair when you try tapping your thumb in the area you THINK the buttons are. Add in the fact that ZTE is not even honoring their fancy warranty right now (in the USA at least) due to lack of replacement devices. It's a joke.....
I was originally planning for the Axon 7 to replace my OnePlus 3, but it appears I will hang on to the OP3 instead.

I think speakers and Display are the only things better in Axon 7. Also, it won't be seeing Nougat till 2017 Just guessing

trace1er said:
I just got my Axon 7 on Monday, and have played around with it for a couple days. Wanted to share my experience with it so far. I was drawn to the phone because on paper, the specs were mostly superior to the OnePlus 3. However, the ZTE software KILLS IT. It is irritating to use and without any developer support at the moment, there's not much to look forward to. In my experience, the OnePlus 3 has a faster fingerprint scanner, better camera, software, and developer support. And the high end audio on the Axon 7? Honestly the speakers are not THAT great. I find the OnePlus 3 speakers are comparable. Listening through headphones, my OnePlus 3 with Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos actually sound better than the audio from the Axon 7. The capacitive keys are not backlit, making using your phone in the dark a trial-and-error affair when you try tapping your thumb in the area you THINK the buttons are. Add in the fact that ZTE is not even honoring their fancy warranty right now (in the USA at least) due to lack of replacement devices. It's a joke.....
I was originally planning for the Axon 7 to replace my OnePlus 3, but it appears I will hang on to the OP3 instead.
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I had a similar experience with Zte Axon Elite. There was not support, there were nor updates neither software development, there are not communities yet. In fact, after one year in the market, it is still working with lollipop. To be honest, in spite of the Axon 7 specs are apparently better than OP3, I swore to myself not to buy a ZTE phone never again. In this sense, your experience gives me the reason. I was not wrong. OP3 is simply much better.
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I have a Dolby Atmos that I ported from both Axon 7 and LeTv LeMax 2. The LeMax version is the one that works with our phones.
This should even the playing field for you.

trace1er said:
I just got my Axon 7 on Monday, and have played around with it for a couple days. Wanted to share my experience with it so far. I was drawn to the phone because on paper, the specs were mostly superior to the OnePlus 3. However, the ZTE software KILLS IT. It is irritating to use and without any developer support at the moment, there's not much to look forward to. In my experience, the OnePlus 3 has a faster fingerprint scanner, better camera, software, and developer support. And the high end audio on the Axon 7? Honestly the speakers are not THAT great. I find the OnePlus 3 speakers are comparable. Listening through headphones, my OnePlus 3 with Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos actually sound better than the audio from the Axon 7. The capacitive keys are not backlit, making using your phone in the dark a trial-and-error affair when you try tapping your thumb in the area you THINK the buttons are. Add in the fact that ZTE is not even honoring their fancy warranty right now (in the USA at least) due to lack of replacement devices. It's a joke.....
I was originally planning for the Axon 7 to replace my OnePlus 3, but it appears I will hang on to the OP3 instead.
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I am using V4A. Can you please let me know whether Dolby Atoms is useful? If yes, please me to the thread so I can install.

dindoliya said:
I am using V4A. Can you please let me know whether Dolby Atoms is useful? If yes, please me to the thread so I can install.
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If you are running TWRP recovery, just install FreedomOS. It's basically the stock OOS ROM, but in the Aroma options during installation you can select to install Viper4Android and Dolby Atmos together.

That sh*t throttles when charging lol

Hmm, I was looking to switch over.
The whole go to the forums to unlock the bootloader was a big deal for me, but some devs have found a way around that I believe. I also saw someone running TWRP, so Custom ROMs can't be that far right?
But all that will happen when they finally release the damn phone here.

Prince Chandela said:
I think speakers and Display are the only things better in Axon 7. Also, it won't be seeing Nougat till 2017 Just guessing
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I have a feeling that we won't either ... >....<

Hogyoku said:
I have a feeling that we won't either ... >....<
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I was about to say the same... Oneplus users can't make fun of other manufacturers for not updating when it takes the so long to port

Yup. Bought the A7 from best buy a few weeks ago and really really wanted to like it.
A7 Pros:
+ The A7 speakers truly are superior to the OP3 speakers...I'll give it that. But I do agree that audio from the headphone jack is NOT what I thought it would be, especially considering the "dual independent Hi-Fi processors" or whatever.
+Battery life on the A7 was also noticeably better. Not a HUGE difference, but I could easily get well over 5 hours SOT with the A7, while I get around 4 with the OP3.
+Screen was great and has a better auto-brightness function. Auto-brightness on the OP3 is terrible.
+Having QC3.0 was nice since I could use a standard 2M USB cable while charging. I'm using the 1M Sabrent extension with my OP3 for dash charging and it works fine, but it makes the cable a bit heavier and clunkier. Boy does that A7 get HOT when charging though.
That's about it as far as positives went for me. Negatives:
- I didn't mind the lack of backlit buttons (I don't use the backlights on my OP3 buttons). However, their response area is too small and they are TOO CLOSE TOGETHER. Their positioning is not natural and I could not get used to them after a week and a half of use. This was hugely annoying for me.
- MiFavor is miserable. Period. And no, changing the launcher does NOT remedy it. Anyone that says otherwise is silly.
- Camera low-lighting performance was terrible, muted, and grainy.
- Did I mention the phone gets hot as hell when charging??
- While I did find the fingerprint sensor to be very fast (maybe faster than OP3), I did not prefer the location. It is unnatural for me, probably due to my large hands. It also doesn't have vibrate feedback when a successful scan occurs. It only vibrates when you are unsuccessful. That took a lot of getting used to.
- The gestures are whack. Especially DT2W. It is soooo delayed. Probably a full 1-2 seconds before the phone vibrates and turns the screen on. OP3's is at least twice as fast. I just missed OP3's gestures in general (especially track seek with the screen off).
- What is the deal with the stupid A7 lockscreen??? You have to tap the stupid bell to show notifications. This also exacerbated my frustration with the lack of track seek gestures. To skip a track, I'd have to wake the phone, find and press the bell icon, and find and press the track seek button. This is very distracting while driving.
- Oh, and yeah, a complicated, gimmicky, and warranty-voiding bootloader unlocking procedure. No way there's going to be enough development support to correct all the issues that are present with this phone's user experience.
I bought the phone because I wanted a sweet screen and awesome speakers...I just gave up waaaaaay too much in order to get those things. Returned to best buy while still within the return period. Couldn't be happier to be back on the OP3.

biglilsteve said:
Yup. Bought the A7 from best buy a few weeks ago and really really wanted to like it.
That is exactly my experience! Thanks for the post.
I have to add that no option for on screen nav bar really sucked because, as stated above, the capacitive were too close and not backlit. And what about no option for ambient display, that stupid bell? The op3 is like a moto x with wave to wake and killer ambient display which works immediately upon pulling from pocket. Nice job op3!
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Trust me, if only OnePlus added another speaker on top and the sd card/dual sim combo tray, op3 will crush this A-crap 7 and all those flagships easily.

redeyss said:
biglilsteve said:
Yup. Bought the A7 from best buy a few weeks ago and really really wanted to like it.
That is exactly my experience! Thanks for the post.
I have to add that no option for on screen nav bar really sucked because, as stated above, the capacitive were too close and not backlit. And what about no option for ambient display, that stupid bell? The op3 is like a moto x with wave to wake and killer ambient display which works immediately upon pulling from pocket. Nice job op3!
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Yup, +1!
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corrupt1234 said:
Trust me, if only OnePlus added another speaker on top and the sd card/dual sim combo tray, op3 will crush this A-crap 7 and all those flagships easily.
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Wellll, to play devil's advocate, the A7 would be a crusher too if it had Oxygen OS haha
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luckily zte axon is not available in india and even if it was available i'd not buy since there is hardly any devs interested in that phone, where as oneplus and nexus are dev's favourites. we had custom roms for oneplus the next day it was released.

bonham1988 said:
luckily zte axon is not available in india and even if it was available i'd not buy since there is hardly any devs interested in that phone, where as oneplus and nexus are dev's favourites. we had custom roms for oneplus the next day it was released.
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The OP3 is such a good phone and OOS is such a good UI that I haven't even unlocked or rooted yet. And honestly I currently have no plans to.
On the A7, it would be mandatory though!
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biglilsteve said:
The OP3 is such a good phone and OOS is such a good UI that I haven't even unlocked or rooted yet. And honestly I currently have no plans to.
On the A7, it would be mandatory though!
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Even i havent rooted my phone yet but i'll probably do it when 7 based roms come out though i'll revert back to stock as soon as official oos is released. It seems they've learned from their past mistakes and have been releasing updates and bug fixes pretty quickly.
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I am still using my Axon 7 as my daily driver since the place I bought it from has a 30-day return period. I rooted it so I can debloat, install Adblock, Greenify, and change the DPI (so icons and text are not huge). Also using Nova Launcher. This has made the phone MUCH more tolerable, as I still REALLY REALLY want to like this phone. The only main gripes that remain are low-light camera performance, non-backlit capcitive keys, and the lockscreen bell. Many say that all these remaining issues can be eliminated through software updates (better camera post-processing, enabling on-screen buttons, and removing that bell). Unfortunately, that is a BIG IF.

On screen buttons are not a fix because then you are wasting screen real estate. But yeah everything else can be solved with solid AOSP ROMs and better camera processing. But yeah, dev support is just not looking like it's going to happen.
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Now I'm doubly-glad I didn't take a risk and go with the Axon 7! Just like the OP said, the Axon had a bit better specs in some respects (ex. expandable storage), less in others (RAM), but the developer community strength for the OP3 pulled me in that direction. I'm sure if I was more of a casual user it wouldn't be an issue....but the casual user doesn't end up on XDA, at least not for long

S20 FE vibration

Has anyone else noticed that it is extremely weak?
Compared to my S9+ I can't even feel it in my pocket.

spacemanvt said:
Has anyone else noticed that it is extremely weak?
Compared to my S9+ I can't even feel it in my pocket.
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vibration intensity is all over the place stock. From the haptic feedback on keypress to notifications, they ranged from barely noticeable to being able to feel it 3 houses down when im typing stuff. I went and adjusted them several times until i got it to where it feels exactly like the S9 i came from to this phone.

Youdoofus said:
vibration intensity is all over the place stock. From the haptic feedback on keypress to notifications, they ranged from barely noticeable to being able to feel it 3 houses down when im typing stuff. I went and adjusted them several times until i got it to where it feels exactly like the S9 i came from to this phone.
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I think it's much worse than my s9+. Specifically when getting notifications in my pocket.
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spacemanvt said:
I think it's much worse than my s9+. Specifically when getting notifications in my pocket.
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change the vibration intensity for whatever notif youre having issues with

Youdoofus said:
change the vibration intensity for whatever notif youre having issues with
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its on max for everything

spacemanvt said:
its on max for everything
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Same here I am deaf so I need to have ot on vibrate but this is the weakest I have ever had.

likecookies said:
Same here I am deaf so I need to have ot on vibrate but this is the weakest I have ever had.
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Agreed, i might actually return the phone its so bad... lol

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its on max for everything
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disable and re-enable the vibration function. Mine vibrates so hard it makes the lady 4 houses down grin uncontrollably every time i get a text

Too weak

Question s23 Haptic Feedback

Hello everyone, I am about to buy an s23 but I have a question, how is the haptic feedback? i come from an iphone 12 pro and i really like that look. Can someone tell me based on their experience?

Scavenger01 said:
Hello everyone, I am about to buy an s23 but I have a question, how is the haptic feedback? i come from an iphone 12 pro and i really like that look. Can someone tell me based on their experience?
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I just got mine yesterday, before it I used an iPhone Xs and it is definetly worse, but still better than my S20. You can adjust the strength of it, but at higher values it feels a bit jellyi or how do you say it, so its not a sudden vibration and gone, but as if it echoed for a short time. It does not mean that it's bad, this is just my opinion