Turn off WiFi "For Real"? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Long version:
-I am running a media server for my family (as well as NAS/printer/etc sharing) so I need an internet connection and WiFi on the server at all times.
-I live in an area where the internet is.... unreliable... going out for 15+ minutes on a near-monthly basis, and for shorter periods every few days.
-When I am in one of these long outages (and since nobody can use the internet they all want to watch content on the media server, which for some reason requires an internet connection to stream over the local network) I was planning to just USB/BT tether my Note9 to the server until the outage ended...
But...
Every time I tether it, in less than 15 minutes, often less than 5, despite me toggling WiFi to "Off" the phone has decided to turn wifi back on and reconnect to the network with no internet connection, terminating my cellular data session. WiFi tethering is not an option since I need the server to remain on the wifi network to serve media to... cantankerous... retired senior citizens who refuse to learn to download media themselves for offline viewing......
Tl;Dr:
How can I force the Note9 to stay on mobile data and not reconnect to WiFi untill I tell it to? (being a note9 it is, of course, Stock and un-rootable)

Try with mobile data always active under Developer options

Could be this setting in connection
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paul_59 said:
Could be this setting in connection
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That's the one! Also change location settings so that it doesn't use wifi for location tracking, because that will also turn on wifi if it's set to use the chip.

Thank you, I didn't realize that the Note9 actually kept track of where I use Wifi like that - when the wifi works that's actually a great feature to save battery when I'm away from home/work (I'll have to see if there's a program to make a quick-toggle)

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How to force wifi when available?

Ok, this was working fine on the original AT&T ROM, but since I flashed to dutty's ROM, I cant get it to work. How do I force the phone to use wifi for net access when wifi is turned on, as opposed to medianet? Currently, I have to keep manually switching from medianet to "my work connection" in connection settings.
You can use Kaiser Tweak to set it to disconnect the GPRS connection after a set amount of minutes of inactivity. Then, when you enable WiFi, it should connect ONLY to WiFi.
I think the OP needs to sort out his "work" and his "internet" instead of just trying to turn off radio data.
I have medianet set to internet and my wifi set to work...not really clear what "work" is....just want to automatically use wifi when wifi is connected, and cant find the option to do that.
Anybody???
I did set both connections to "work".
Additionally I added my tmobile gprs connection to the work profile.
All seems to work great.
I can acces my network shares over wifi and connect to the internet. When no wifi is available it connects via gprs.
I keep getting confused on this same issue. i installed the same rom we are talking about. it shows up for me when setting up email accounts. with my wifi turned on, it still tries to go out the 3g connection. I want it to use wifi if that is what is turned on and i think that was working on the death star rom. For the drop down that says "The Internet" I basically want that to point to wifi if on then fall back to 3g. How do we do that?
It should not be named "work".
So whats the solution here?
Under Connections....Select which networks are automatically used:
Programs that connect to the internet should connect using ???
I can either choose Medianet or my work network, I'd like for it to use wifi when available, how is this done?
Programs that connect to a private network should connect using ???
I have this set to my work network.
Easy Solution to 'Auto Wifi"
Buy an Iphone, works seemlessly, and you get a browser too which works, something these HTC phones havn't had in 3 years.
The easiest way to force wifi (since gprs can be acting as a ***** ), is to keep wlan enabled and to install the NOGPRS.cab (aka the modaco nodata plugin) which allows you to disable (but keep) the gprs settings and which you can toggle on (and back off) when needed.
Great little app, saves much annoyance!
Is there an easy way to toggle wi-fi on/off, that can be assigned to an icon or button? At the moment I have to open Comm Manager each time and do it from there.
Rob F

WIFI

Morning all,
I just got a touch diamond2, this is my first fone with wifi. a couple of questions!
when i'm at home or whereever and connect through wifi this has no impact on download limits within my fone contract?
Does the fone automatically no to use wifi for the internet connection when one is connected?
my fone doesn't stay connected to my home network, it finds it and connects ok but then a min or so later it says 'not connected, networks available'?
any help appreciated
Cheers
Gazza
Hi,
Using WiFi connections at home will not contribute to your mobile data plan. Wi-Fi data does not go over the cellular networks, and therefore is not part of your contract plan. This also means that you can use VoIP, streaming video, and other services over Wi-Fi, whereas you may not be able to over your mobile data plan.
The phone will not switch automatically between Mobile Data and Wi-Fi. You would need to close the Mobile Data connection, and re-start with Wi-Fi every time you wanted to switch.
Your mobile phone WiFi connection may be entering a power-saving mode when idle; To disable this, download the Advanced Config Tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151 and install it. Open the Advanced Config Tool and look for the Network settings. The bottom two options should be "Turn off Wi-Fi if no activity" and "Wi-Fi Auto off timeout" Change these as appropriate.
Hope this helps!
Hi, here are my answers based on my experience:
1) When connected to a WiFi network (eg. home, work,school etc) your phone operator is not in the position to charge you anything.You'll be charged only if using your operator GPRS,3g etc services. If you want to avoid Operator connections use Nodata.cab or make the right settings in Advanced config or HD Tweak.
2) Once Wifi connection established, it should have the priority on other data connections.
3) Wifi connection stability depends on radio and ROM you're using, my solution is to to set "Maximum Performance" in the Power Management tab under Wifi Settings. Not doing this leads to instable or even "fake" connections: windows says you're connected but no data traffic occur This is the only workaround I know, any other suggestion is super-welcome!
Cheers

N1 - 5GHz Wifi?

Does the N1 have 5GHz wifi like the Samsung?
My home LAN is 5GHz only, so I don't disturb the neighbors with my video streaming.
No, 2.4 only...
Ugh.
OK so I turned on the router's 2.4GHz, but with broadcast SSID off. My N1 wouldn't even try to connect. So I turned on router SSID and it connects AES.
I do -not- want SSID broadcast on, as Windows machines' lazy active scan will find me. Sure they'll never get in, but I do not want broadcast on.
Has anyone succeeded in connecting with it off?
When I am connected wifi and open a website on the phone, does it go over wifi preferred over 3G?
I want to share the SD card with a machine on the LAN. What's the best way to do this? FTP? Reverse SSH tunnel? Is there a sshfs for Android? EDIT: NM on this one.
Yes, I remember connecting to a WiFi with SSID off, when I had Nexus.
It is pointless to keep SSID Broadcasting off. It is super easy to find your SSID anyway, and it causes all sorts of additional problems (like the one you are seeing above). Just keep the network secure and it makes life a lot easier.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2865...hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/
http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
Now I find that whenever I have the phone connected to wifi, I lose -all- internet access. Just times out. 3G is still on and wifi is showing connected, but I can't get to websites. As soon as I turn off Wifi I can access the internet again through 3G.
With wifi I -can- access the wireless router's setup webpage from my phone, which tells me I am working through wifi, and I can remotely mount the phone filesystem on a LAN machine using sshfs, but I can not reach anything outside. Any idea why?
Does anyone know whether, when it's working right, it uses the wifi connection in preference over 3G?
The WiFi is ALWAYS preferred to 3G, which means - when you're connected to WiFi, all the internet traffic is routed through WiFi.
I don't understand then, why all data traffic stops to the outside when wifi is connected. The rest of my LAN gets outside fine, just not the phone.
If you can see LAN computers and exchange data with them - it's not the phone that's making problems. See if you have any restrictions in your router.
Oh FFS, my fault...
I set my IP statically for my LAN, and through some alert troubleshooting I found I can ping IPs outside but not DNs. I'd mis-set the DNS server in wifi settings. Now it works great!
I can now use sshdroid to mount my phone's filesystem on my LAN securely. Now, if I could only get it to wifi associate with beacon off...
It would also be nice to mount a filesystem on my LAN to the phone, although I consider the phone unsecure and question the wisdom of that, even with DroidWall running.
There is a market app that lets you connect to a hidden ssid
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk
Cool, but Market is FCing on me. I did a complete reinstall of the newest MIUI.us, and now Market's FCing again. So can't install any Market apps.
As someone else said, turning SSID off is pointless. It's like taking the numbers off the outside of your house and thinking people driving by won't see your house sitting there.
Apparently you didn't understand what I said here:
Quantumstate said:
Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
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If nothing else, please just respect my decision in this regard, or give valid proof that active scanners are not the preponderance.

Can wifi and 3G run at same time?

Can wifi and 3G run at same time? I need them together, wifi to print via wireless printer and 3G to use net.
Technically, not a problem to have both active. Problem might be that the app you want to use for wifi could map itself to the internet/3g connection group. Or the program you download with ends up switching to wifi, if that's what the phone prefers when it has two specific connections.
Usually is dependent on the program implementations now, though. But if it seems to work and then somehow fails, the app's connection preferences probably is the problem.
UIQrules said:
Technically, not a problem to have both active. Problem might be that the app you want to use for wifi could map itself to the internet/3g connection group. Or the program you download with ends up switching to wifi, if that's what the phone prefers when it has two specific connections.
Usually is dependent on the program implementations now, though. But if it seems to work and then somehow fails, the app's connection preferences probably is the problem.
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Thanks for the reply but I didn't get you mostly.
I am using HP ePrint app. I want wifi to connect to printer and 3G to recode data to print. Turning on wifi automatically connects to wifi. 3G turns off. Any how to force them stay together?

Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
exeLz said:
Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
exeLz said:
To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
Asphyx said:
Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
exeLz said:
That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
Asphyx said:
The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Asphyx said:
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!
Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.
I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653
I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?

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