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Considering the Mi Mix. Where to buy/which version?

I've lately been looking at the Mi Mix, and must say it it much more appealing than the S8 that one will be seeing everywhere shortly.
If ordered, it will probably be used with the Epic rom or similar. English or Norwegian language.
This in mind, which version should one order, and from where? I see many advertising with "global rom" and "multilanguage" etc. but I assume this does not matter if a custom rom will be used anyway?
The 256gb 18k is the one that's interesting.

s.hafsmo said:
I've lately been looking at the Mi Mix, and must say it it much more appealing than the S8 that one will be seeing everywhere shortly.
If ordered, it will probably be used with the Epic rom or similar. English or Norwegian language.
This in mind, which version should one order, and from where? I see many advertising with "global rom" and "multilanguage" etc. but I assume this does not matter if a custom rom will be used anyway?
The 256gb 18k is the one that's interesting.
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It depends on what you will do with the device, how app-intensive is your day in the context of the number of apps you have open at any one time.
At this point though, there is little to no reason not to go for the 6Gb RAM/256Gb Storage version.
The Mix has good roms now (RR, Lineage) with no bugs, so if you're thinking about going that way, then the stock rom doesn't matter.
I would recommend going for having the Global rom when you're buying. Why? Because all devices are factory flashed with the chinese roms, but if you want a global one, then the vendor will take care of unlocking the device & they usually leave it that way, without bothering re-locking it again.
This means that you can flash from day 1 & don't need to bother applying for unlock permissions.

adwinp said:
It depends on what you will do with the device, how app-intensive is your day in the context of the number of apps you have open at any one time.
At this point though, there is little to no reason not to go for the 6Gb RAM/256Gb Storage version.
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My apologies for not being specific in my original post. I'll be getting the 256gb Mi Mix, and was attempting to refer to which rom version to choose.
You did however answer that as well, which is much appreciated. Then I'll be looking for one with the global rom.
Have anyone ordered from Goldway on Ali? Lots of places sell these, but I'm not sure which are legit.

If you're in the USA I have an extra new 256Gb version I have decided to sell, was keeping it as a back up in case my daily Mix failed but have since decided I'd rather not have the money tied up in two Mi Mixes.

I'm in Norway, but shipping across the pond isn't that bad with USPS. Send me a PM with model details and a price if you're still interested in selling.

s.hafsmo said:
I see many advertising with "global rom" and "multilanguage" etc.
The 256gb 18k is the one that's interesting.
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global rom supports multilanguage, google play etc

6GB /256GB ... get an untampered one with the Chinese rom, unlock it your self and root it yourself then choose the rom YOU want. There are many complaints here and there about Vendor roms with adds and malware etc. Best way to avoid those is go in stock [Chinese] and do the work yourself to root and rom it.

Thanks! Would you be able to recommend a site where I could acquire one? I see most on Ali (recommended sellers) have the global rom.

I'm also looking to get one, what site do you guys recommend and how much should it be going for these days?

romors666 said:
If you're in the USA I have an extra new 256Gb version I have decided to sell, was keeping it as a back up in case my daily Mix failed but have since decided I'd rather not have the money tied up in two Mi Mixes.
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Hey romors666, I'm interested in your mi mix. I'm in the state. pm me for detail, thanks

I bought mine on AliExpress, including shipping to UK for 256GB model ￡430.08. I got sealed, don`t want anybody to install any ROMs on my phone. I`m not waiting for 72hrs to pass so that I can unlock bootloader and install Global ROM.

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I bought mine on AliExpress, including shipping to UK for 256GB model ￡430.08. I got sealed, don`t want anybody to install any ROMs on my phone. I`m not waiting for 72hrs to pass so that I can unlock bootloader and install Global ROM.
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How do you like it so far? I wish it had nfc so i could use Android pay

I`m loving it. Side by side with S7, S7 looks like garbage. Its like Ford Fiesta vs Bentley
It has NFC and Android Pay in the Global ROM.

I paid £435 from geekbuying no other fee to pay amazing phone this one is a keeper for sure a iconic phone.That screen is just in your face it will turn heads.

I can only agree with above. Whoever sees this phone, they all are wooow, what is this ?! Who makes this, Apple?
Best phone I have ever owned purely due to quality of screen. Switched to EE network from Vodafone - zero issues with data/internet, quite fast.

I'm in the US, just purchased mine off Swappa. Hardware is incredible, but software is pretty bad. Miui lacks a lot of features I've grown to expect from Nougat phones (safetynet, split screen, double click recent to go to last app, nav bar that doesn't look awful, quick reply inside notifications, ambient display, etc).
Resurrection Remix is very close to being done. Only real issue left is a 2 second delay between when you click power button/double tap to wake/hit fingerprint sensor until screen turns on. MIUI is lightning fast, so it's definitely just software issue that can hopefully get fixed. Everything else is rock solid on RR, and it even passes safetynet. Once this wakeup lag gets fixed, phone will be perfect.

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I'm in the US, just purchased mine off Swappa. Hardware is incredible, but software is pretty bad. Miui lacks a lot of features I've grown to expect from Nougat phones (safetynet, split screen, double click recent to go to last app, nav bar that doesn't look awful, quick reply inside notifications, ambient display, etc).
Resurrection Remix is very close to being done. Only real issue left is a 2 second delay between when you click power button/double tap to wake/hit fingerprint sensor until screen turns on. MIUI is lightning fast, so it's definitely just software issue that can hopefully get fixed. Everything else is rock solid on RR, and it even passes safetynet. Once this wakeup lag gets fixed, phone will be perfect.
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The 2 seconds delay is not likely to be addressed so just get it anyway lol

Will this device work on Verizon, if it does will I be able to get 4glte? I live in KY.
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so... what next?

So alot of people (especially in the UK) will be coming to the end of contract and life cycle on the p20. The question is....what next.
Do we go p40 without Google services or look at something different?
Iv loved the p20, it's been reliable and solid, but I'm a Google loyalist. I use the services and apps and the idea of losing apps iv paid for already on Google play just seems a step to far.
Iv found updates painfully slow to arrive through O2, months and months behind. So definitely an unlocked from carrier handset next.
But what one?
Samsung
One Plus
Or something completely different?

I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.

The Restless Soul said:
I love my phone, but unfortunately i came to get too annoyed with the software.
I will be switching to either Xiaomi, oneplus (doubt about oneplus but i'll see).
Until Huawei releases harmony os, i will not buy their stuff anymore. Great hardware, **** software.
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Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.

If you want updates to your phone, you have 2 choices. Iphone or pixel.
OnePlus is super easy to unlock the bootloader and will not void the warranty. Then just use lineageOS.

I had enough of of the Huawei software. I was expecting Android 10 by now, but nothings been said about that release for a while now.
Add locked bootloaders and no development, made a rather boring phone. It was the only Android phone I've ever had which didn't even get a working TWRP after 2 years!
I went for the Pixel 4XL yesterday, and I'm very happy with it. Bootloader unlocked, rooted and GPay working fine

forever_lol said:
Yes. This mi 10 pro seems like a decent upgrade.
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Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!

The Restless Soul said:
Exactly. Sadly that it is kinda expensive and doesn't bring water resistance, but still it's pretty great!
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According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.

forever_lol said:
According to current information it's 4999 yuan which is more expensive than previous releases but it's still cheaper than OnePlus 7T Pro, not to mention Samsung or Pixel and iPhone. I am afraid it'll be more pricey in Europe though. Lack of IP rating is bad but I think I can live without it if the price is competitive.
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If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.

The Restless Soul said:
If it is at least splash proof, then i am happy either way. Better that than nothing. Besides, MIUI is really good in terms of looks and customization. I don't know about the system apps and country-features restrictions. Let's see how the phone will perform.
Personally, the non-pro version is better than the pro, but let's wait first.
Oneplus is good too but still skeptical about them, after they got called out many times due to their software backdoors and insecurity.
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It's supposed to be splash proof. Regular mi 10 has bigger battery but pro version has better camera.

If you care about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.

I've never owned Xiaomi and frankly speaking I am bit curious, especially that this year they claim they won't compete with other flagships with price factor only. I guess I'll order it online, use it and return it within 14 days if I don't like it. Samsung is not an option to me as I want a handset with SD 865 and my region is "blessed" with their Exynos. Pixel is overpriced on the other hand and designwise...just horrible. I'd rather go for OP if their quality check is improved this year.

arty_a said:
If you case about software on any level - don't go with Xiaomi. They are even worse than Huawei with updates and their camera software is probably the worst on the market.
I think the "what's next" really depends on the personal preference and needs.
I personally would never go with anything without Google services. Software wise - Pixels lead, OnePlus are probably the second choice right now. Camera wise it's probably Pixel/Samsung. If you want to keep the price low, Xiaomi is probably the way to go but you will sacrifice things. I would say OnePlus is the most balanced, but if I wouldn't care for the price I would go with Pixel.
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I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?

The Restless Soul said:
I mean, since many xda nerds advertise xiaomi (second place, top being oneplus) as the best company that supports custom roms, i suppose a custom rom with gcam can fix all the issues Xiaomi phones have. I guess?
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True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.

arty_a said:
True if you are willing to do all that. Last time I checked xiaomi.eu stopped supporting GCam ports on their official forum because they worked pretty terrible. I guess you can find some ROM like LineageOS that works with GCam, I didn't really look into it since I don't own a Xiaomi phone anymore.
If you just want to buy something that works out of the box they are not the best choice.
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I'm sure you're right about previous releases. Thank you for your feedback. It's good to hear some critical voice before the final decision is made. However there are already camera comparisons between mi 10 pro and s20 ultra and these pics/videos looks pretty good. Mi 10 pro camera is supposed to be revolutionary and able to compete with other flagships. Well we'll see.

Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.

Why do you need to upgrade? I'm holding off here in the UK until 5G becomes a reality and decent phones are available. New phones for 2020 so far (and into the Q2) don't really offer anything above what I currently have hardware wise. The phone works fine for me, battery lasts > 1 day even after 2 years.

dladz said:
Oneplus 8 pro. Nothing comes close unless you want to spend £1200 on a pixel 5. If money isn't a problem then the latter would be comparable and the only phone that is.
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I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee

dlevick said:
I'm thinking the one plus but it looks like it's network exclusive to ee
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I am with EE, by far the best in London, Liverpool and Manchester for all the places I visit, getting expensive now but that fits perfectly for me...
What gives you the idea that EE will have the OnePlus , as in the new one?
That is the one I want.

For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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blufreak said:
For me oneplus would have to show incredible improvement in keeping their promises regarding coming improvements and their cameras. I can't trust reviews 9n them anymore and would want to see it first hand. Shame as otherwise their hardware is blinding fast and updates/rootproof warranty are great
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Honestly for me so long as ois is on the camera and it's got "some" development, the screen is 90hz or over..I'm in.
The rest is a bonus.
Oh and I miss that DND hardware switch
Apparently waterproofing, wireless charging is all on its way.
My only problem will be the price if they're all added, personally I couldn't care less about wireless charging, not when it idles so well and charges as fast as it does..maybe if I started using it I'd become a fan but I can't see it at the moment.
Time will tell.
Plus if they don't have the 8 pro on my carrier I ain't getting it lol.

Question Would you buy?

Hi all,
Just a quick one, thinking of buying the mi 11 but will be just a UK stock one as not really got time for flashing etc, just wondered with battery life and other connectivity issues would you still recommend buying ?
Cheers in advance

Not yet if ur life depends on flashing custom roms

Even tho it appears you can do plenty of tweaks with ADB tool ??
Struggling to find a replacement for my mate 20 pro !! Defo need wireless charging which a lot don't have

not anymore,
i purchased it in march,
it was much more expansive than now, for sure
however there are many things which annoys me on my mi11
--> battery is not good
--> proximity sensor sometimes is crazy
--> receiption of wifi and 4g is not as good as other phones directly next to each other
--> updates does not have any changelog, i mean at least there are updates but no one knows whats changed
--> it's too big somehow
--> curved screen annoys me
sure, might be different for other people, but next time i will not buy on day1 + smaller and no curved device

I'm very happy for my mi 11. I'm on Xiaomi stable EU rom.
Works nice, battery life is ok (120hz screen and resolution obviously eat battery somehow).
Work smooth, is super.
Only one minutes is that night video mode it is not good as it was on official Xiaomi materials for this phone.
Screen is beautiful, worth of buy for it.

qvert said:
not anymore,
i purchased it in march,
it was much more expansive than now, for sure
however there are many things which annoys me on my mi11
--> battery is not good
--> proximity sensor sometimes is crazy
--> receiption of wifi and 4g is not as good as other phones directly next to each other
--> updates does not have any changelog, i mean at least there are updates but no one knows whats changed
--> it's too big somehow
--> curved screen annoys me
sure, might be different for other people, but next time i will not buy on day1 + smaller and no curved device
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How could you buy a phone that looks and feels in a way that you don't like ?
Some things you find out about a phone after using it a while, but there are pictures even on google...you can see how it looks and how big is it.
I have Mi 11 and yes, the battery is ok, but it could be better if the CPU wasn't so power hungry.
The rest of the "issues" that you listed are your fault, or a local issue...not all Mi 11 have those issues.

qvert said:
not anymore,
i purchased it in march,
it was much more expansive than now, for sure
however there are many things which annoys me on my mi11
--> battery is not good
--> proximity sensor sometimes is crazy
--> receiption of wifi and 4g is not as good as other phones directly next to each other
--> updates does not have any changelog, i mean at least there are updates but no one knows whats changed
--> it's too big somehow
--> curved screen annoys me
sure, might be different for other people, but next time i will not buy on day1 + smaller and no curved device
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I've got to be honest, I think the device is amazing in every way, and my phone background is Samsung Note series phones, and to be honest, this is an amazing device.
Battery life is very good, and I have no complaints about anything else if I'm honest.
You mention changelog, but where you go to update the software, it tells you what was included in the last software update ?

Blitzz.666 said:
How could you buy a phone that looks and feels in a way that you don't like ?
Some things you find out about a phone after using it a while, but there are pictures even on google...you can see how it looks and how big is it.
I have Mi 11 and yes, the battery is ok, but it could be better if the CPU wasn't so power hungry.
The rest of the "issues" that you listed are your fault, or a local issue...not all Mi 11 have those issues.
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thats why i said its my issues and not everyones
still it's the worse device (FOR ME, not for everyone) i purchased since years and i buy 1-2 phones every year
and i had a bunch of xiaomis too
my last devices somehow are like
Mi 11
Pixel 5
Oneplus 8 Pro
Poco f2 Pro
Mi 9t Pro
Oneplus 7 Pro
and the mi11 simply disappoints me personally
It would be fine if it would be cheaper or if i would not get a poco f3 which is doing everything the same except a slight worse camera for 1/3 of the money

qvert said:
thats why i said its my issues and not everyones
still it's the worse device (FOR ME, not for everyone) i purchased since years and i buy 1-2 phones every year
and i had a bunch of xiaomis too
my last devices somehow are like
Mi 11
Pixel 5
Oneplus 8 Pro
Poco f2 Pro
Mi 9t Pro
Oneplus 7 Pro
and the mi11 simply disappoints me personally
It would be fine if it would be cheaper or if i would not get a poco f3 which is doing everything the same except a slight worse camera for 1/3 of the money
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This is the first phone you ever had that comes with SD888, so don't compare.

Hey man, ignore the others. The phone is great. I purchased it for only £500 and it's the best phone I've ever purchased. The only downside I see is battery life. With my usage I get around 5 hours on screen time but this is without using the battery saver and with 120hz enabled. If you tweak some settings you can easily get upwards of 6 to 7 hours.

If you know what to expect from MIUI, then it isn't really a big deal. However, if you are used to clean ROMs, then MIUI will slap you.
It comes with a lot of suspicious apps and most of Xiaomi is about colorful effects that do nothing. There are a lot of bugs and overall the focus is 90% on themes and design rather than functionality (e.g. you can't use one handed mode when you got gesture control active).
If I knew back then what I know now after using a Xiaomi for 2 weeks, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Very happy with mine, bought chinese version £500 and flashed Xiaomi stable EU rom which is clean while saving money pretty much up there with S21 ultra for spec while costing less Love the screen at 120hz and set res to FHD as I cant tell the difference I get around 5-6hours SOT and overall build is very good pretty difficult to find something at this price and spec
Also dont mind MIUI actually like it

Looked at Wanda for buying one, but didn't know you could put EU rom on ?
Did some flashing in past but not done anything recently so some questions,
- it easy enough with these ??
- also what's updating like ? do you need to do them yourself once flashed ? you don't get any OTA ?
- do all standard google / banking / gpay stuff work ?

pss53 said:
Looked at Wanda for buying one, but didn't know you could put EU rom on ?
Did some flashing in past but not done anything recently so some questions,
- it easy enough with these ??
- also what's updating like ? do you need to do them yourself once flashed ? you don't get any OTA ?
- do all standard google / banking / gpay stuff work ?
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Hey man, flashing the xiaomi.eu ROM is pretty easy. It is basically a modified version of the China ROM so have all of their cool features. You can check out the guide by visiting their site or checking the thread which should be a couple below this one. Updating is done via twrp flashing as you do not receive OTA updated. Google works fine however you may need to do some tweaking to get your bank app/gpay to work. For example I needed to install an app called adaway to block some DNS so that my bank app would work. Hope this helps.

Cheers and if I bought global version would you need to flash that??
Just I struggle for my own "tech time" now i'm busy with work and a wife ! :-D

pss53 said:
Cheers and if I bought global version would you need to flash that??
Just I struggle for my own "tech time" now i'm busy with work and a wife ! :-D
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No wouldnt need to will work fine

pss53 said:
Hi all,
Just a quick one, thinking of buying the mi 11 but will be just a UK stock one as not really got time for flashing etc, just wondered with battery life and other connectivity issues would you still recommend buying ?
Cheers in advance
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I have UK model (supplied by UK H3G network vendor), with Global MIUI 12.5 (Android 11).
Battery life is stellar
SOT is 8+ hours at 60hz
OS is stable and smooth.
Wireless and reverse wireless charging work perfecty.
Mi 11 5G is basically on par with a Samsung S21 Ultra at half the price (minus the 10x zoom lense).

Before I had Mi 10 which I bricked somehow, idk for sure it's my fault but anyway I've got refund of price which I paid when I bought 10, so natural choice of my was 11, and in comparison to 10 it's way better fingerprints reader, faster which you can feel everywhere, stunning display even when compared to 10, still way better, battery lot better, camera no words the huge difference, in overall my 10 had about 250 apps and was really slow sometimes, getting hot with no reason,.
Now 11 the same amount, almost but mostly all, before bootloader unlock and flashing Xiaomi.eu is working as I expect from mobile, fast, no lags and no overheating.
But it's not like 10 was bad, try to understand me comparing to 10 Xiaomi made a good job and released much better successor. That's it, if my 10 would still work I probably wouldn't buy it.
Previously I had mix 2s and wait two generations to hop into new one, and same before.
In overall it's very good model, and I don't regret that I picked that one instead of Poco F3 or whatever else. I trust flagships are better not only with 10-15% performance, where's more of everything...

Question So no X90 Pro+ for the global market - any Chinese import issues?

I have been following the reviews of the X90 Pro+ since it was released and was super exited to finally retire my P30 Pro for this king of photography.
I find it hard to believe that Vivo decided to keep it exclusive to China, but that seems to be the case. Guess they think people who want the best camera phone is going to buy the lesser Vivo's instead of the upcoming S23. Doubt anyone is tempted by these Vivo's - utterly bizarre decision. Hoping sales will make them realise that.
In any case - thinking of importing it, as there is no other phone that tempts me.
Apart from the lack of warranty and/or hassle getting anything fixed or replaced in case of a fault (had the worst nightmare with an S7 from E-Global years back - threw it in the bin), are there any downsides to importing this phone to Europe (UK specifically)?
From my understanding there should be no 4g/5g band issues. How about Origin OS? Seems it has more functionality than Funtouch, but are there any potential issues?
I don't use Android Auto.
Finally - which Chinese vendor is considered safe and reliable?
Thanks!

Haskren said:
I have been following the reviews of the X90 Pro+ since it was released and was super exited to finally retire my P30 Pro for this king of photography.
I find it hard to believe that Vivo decided to keep it exclusive to China, but that seems to be the case. Guess they think people who want the best camera phone is going to buy the lesser Vivo's instead of the upcoming S23. Doubt anyone is tempted by these Vivo's - utterly bizarre decision. Hoping sales will make them realise that.
In any case - thinking of importing it, as there is no other phone that tempts me.
Apart from the lack of warranty and/or hassle getting anything fixed or replaced in case of a fault (had the worst nightmare with an S7 from E-Global years back - threw it in the bin), are there any downsides to importing this phone to Europe (UK specifically)?
From my understanding there should be no 4g/5g band issues. How about Origin OS? Seems it has more functionality than Funtouch, but are there any potential issues?
I don't use Android Auto.
Finally - which Chinese vendor is considered safe and reliable?
Thanks!
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I bought mine from Giztop.com They shipped it extremely fast and packed well to avoid any damages..

Ok great. I might order from them.
Another thing - I read somewhere that Origin does not support always on display - is that true? That's one of the basic functions which is a must

Haskren said:
Ok great. I might order from them.
Another thing - I read somewhere that Origin does not support always on display - is that true? That's one of the basic functions which is a must
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No the phone has AOD, some 3rd party apps won't work though. I use Google messages for texting and AOD won't show my incoming texts

I ordered mine last month from Wonda Mobile. They shipped via Fedex and I got it in just 3 days. https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/vivo/vivo-x90-pro-plus-5g-cn-dual-sim-12gb-ram-256gb.html
the price seems to be going down every day, I paid around 1150€ for my black 12/256 model and now I see it's just 979€.
- The downsides of OriginOS are pretty much notification problems.. You won't get notifications from certain third party apps like Telegram for example, when dark mode is enabled. No idea if they are gonna fix it, but apparently it was a problem on the Vivo X80 Pro as well (China version) and it was fixed in an update.
- "Ok Google" voice recognition won't work either (I don't use it, but that's what I read)
- 4G works without any issues. For 5G you might wanna check out on kimovil.com, if the phone is fully compatible with your carrier.

I ordered mine from tradingshenzhen, it arrived 2 days ago.
- I bought it (512GB version) on December 29, now it has the same price, it didn't drop and I was monitoring the websites everyday since December 22, ~1150E. I bought it for the camera.
- first of all, I think people should buy this phone only if they need / want the camera, since it comes with a lot of settings / apps still in chinese.
- I think 5G is only suported in China, I got a notification saying it only works in "mainland China", so I have 4G, but I don't care, I'm more then happy with 4G.
- When you receive the phone it will have a lot of applications in Chinese, I haven't removed them yet, I will start the process today, but I will only remove what I know, not every application like others did here (I don't care if they "spy" on me)
- Apps that don't work: google voice, android auto, desktop mode when connected to a monitor. I don't use them so for me is OK.
You are buying for 1000E a phone that the competitors are selling for at least 1600E, but you must accept that not everything will work on it.
For me is OK, I realised I don't use all the "new" hot stuff, I'm still using the phone like I used my Samsung S7 6-7 years ago.

jericho246 said:
I ordered mine last month from Wonda Mobile. They shipped via Fedex and I got it in just 3 days. https://www.wondamobile.com/mobile/vivo/vivo-x90-pro-plus-5g-cn-dual-sim-12gb-ram-256gb.html
the price seems to be going down every day, I paid around 1150€ for my black 12/256 model and now I see it's just 979€.
- The downsides of OriginOS are pretty much notification problems.. You won't get notifications from certain third party apps like Telegram for example, when dark mode is enabled. No idea if they are gonna fix it, but apparently it was a problem on the Vivo X80 Pro as well (China version) and it was fixed in an update.
- "Ok Google" voice recognition won't work either (I don't use it, but that's what I read)
- 4G works without any issues. For 5G you might wanna check out on kimovil.com, if the phone is fully compatible with your carrier.
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Fully agree with this but would like to add:
- timeline doesn't work in maps
Not sure how important that is, i had it always disabled.

google assistant also doesn't work properly (no conversation, no okay google).
Google backup doesn't work making setup/moving your phone super painful. I haven't found any free third party app that could move app settings and some data from messengers for example.

No desktop mode is a bummer as it's a feature I use when travelling with my P30 pro.
Hmmm - perhaps I will wait until February and hope a global release is announced

P6P said:
Fully agree with this but would like to add:
- timeline doesn't work in maps
Not sure how important that is, i had it always disabled.
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Timeline in Google maps does indeed work..

aspj1111 said:
Timeline in Google maps does indeed work..
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Oh ok. I haven't tried that myself because it's always off for me. I have read that many times from the other users so I thought it's true.

No you can access timeline but it doesn't register new places. So it doesn't work.
I really regret having bought this dump phone with great camera...
Cannot activate location history.

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No you can access timeline but it doesn't register new places. So it doesn't work.
I really regret having bought this dump phone with great camera...
Cannot activate location history.
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I love this phone. Coming from pixel 7 Pro this one feels way more premium

Well cannot use Google maps hand free without assistant. Cannot read out emails aloud without conversation of google assistant.
Notifications of Signal often break (must be because China cannot block Signal messenger like they can do with WhatsApp and others). Google apps in general crippled.
This phone has to be used like a phone 5 years ago. No modern intelligent interaction possible with the phone. But yeah outstanding camera for photos (less so for videos) and good but not great battery life.
If only Asus would have a camera phone. The Zenfone 9 and the rog phone 6 really rock for the target people. Pixel 7 would rock with good battery life. That's why just wait for Samsung s23 which likely will trump the x90 camera wise anyhow. And battery wise too (for that really bad chip they got good battery life). But yeah besides Samsung, Google and Asus, and Nokia on the low end there are no more good software phones. Motorola still a bit better then the remaining Chinese producers. As long as consumers buy mainly based on hardware they can continue with dismal software.

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Well cannot use Google maps hand free without assistant. Cannot read out emails aloud without conversation of google assistant.
Notifications of Signal often break (must be because China cannot block Signal messenger like they can do with WhatsApp and others). Google apps in general crippled.
This phone has to be used like a phone 5 years ago. No modern intelligent interaction possible with the phone. But yeah outstanding camera for photos (less so for videos) and good but not great battery life.
If only Asus would have a camera phone. The Zenfone 9 and the rog phone 6 really rock for the target people. Pixel 7 would rock with good battery life. That's why just wait for Samsung s23 which likely will trump the x90 camera wise anyhow. And battery wise too (for that really bad chip they got good battery life). But yeah besides Samsung, Google and Asus, and Nokia on the low end there are no more good software phones. Motorola still a bit better then the remaining Chinese producers. As long as consumers buy mainly based on hardware they can continue with dismal software.
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Well I guess it depends on what you want or need, i'm more than happy. From your writings i think even the Pixel 6a would be good for you.

I want very good camera with zoom, and very good battery life, and reliability with full google services. Pixel 7 pro doesn't have good battery life..
90 or 120 Hz Display is a must too. Actually FHD+ would be best (because of battery life and FHD+ mode on 1440p screen looks unsharp), needs to be waterproof and have very bright screen (1000nits without HDR for outdoor use is what I feel is enough).
Likely s23 Ultra and maybe s23 plus (depends on the quality of the zoom lens) would be perfect or waiting if Pixel 8 pro has better Chipset when it comes to power consumption.
I never play games. Speed is only important in terms of camera.
Pixel 6a will not work for camera and battery life

extremecarver said:
I want very good camera with zoom, and very good battery life, and reliability with full google services. Pixel 7 pro doesn't have good battery life..
90 or 120 Hz Display is a must too. Actually FHD+ would be best (because of battery life and FHD+ mode on 1440p screen looks unsharp), needs to be waterproof and have very bright screen (1000nits without HDR for outdoor use is what I feel is enough).
Likely s23 Ultra and maybe s23 plus (depends on the quality of the zoom lens) would be perfect or waiting if Pixel 8 pro has better Chipset when it comes to power consumption.
I never play games. Speed is only important in terms of camera.
Pixel 6a will not work for camera and battery life
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Got about 8h SOT with the Pixel 7 Pro. I think that's good .

aspj1111 said:
I bought mine from Giztop.com They shipped it extremely fast and packed well to avoid any damages..
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I think to order when I realised that model Pro plus is not coming to Europe. Just need to make clear, is it true that 5G doesn't work on this? and there is obviously English menu in OS, any other issues?

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I think to order when I realised that model Pro plus is not coming to Europe. Just need to make clear, is it true that 5G doesn't work on this? and there is obviously English menu in OS, any other issues?
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I would check the compatibility assistant on Tradingshenzhen. 5G works great for me.

5g works (check the bands on kimovil for your country). mmwave is not supported but rare in Europe. In US no mmwave is a big letdown.1500mhz 5G will likely start in 1-2 years in many countries in Europe - and isn't supported. But very few phones (2022) support it.
I would really wait for S23 however now. In China/Taiwan the x90 Pro+ is cheap (840/880€) but I would not thing a second about it if you can get a Pixel 7 Pro for much cheaper as in Europe (here P7Pro 256GB is more expensive, S22 Ultra same price).

Question Mi 11 ultra in 2023

I am half tempted buying a mi 11 ultra but is it still relevant in 2023 ?
But my biggest concern is the dead wifi/Mobo since I already own a vanilla mi 11 that needed a board replacement

iBURGER said:
I am half tempted buying a mi 11 ultra but is it still relevant in 2023 ?
But my biggest concern is the dead wifi/Mobo since I already own a vanilla mi 11 that needed a board replacement
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Very happy with mine.
Was tempted to upgrade to a Pixel 7 Pro or a Honor Magic 5 Pro (I care mostly about the camera) but honestly it's very hard to justify. Pictures remain best in class even vs the latest phones, the phone is really fast, screens good. It's really hard for me so far to get tempted by a new phone. And I do want to get tempted... Maybe will need a Mi 13 Ultra or a Pixel 8 to get me to upgrade (I tend to trust DXO and they haven't ranked the Mi 13 Pro very well. Seems the 11 Ultra still does a better job overall when it goes down to the camera)
So yeah if you find a good deal on one you won't be disappointed.

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Very happy with mine.
Was tempted to upgrade to a Pixel 7 Pro or a Honor Magic 5 Pro (I care mostly about the camera) but honestly it's very hard to justify. Pictures remain best in class even vs the latest phones, the phone is really fast, screens good. It's really hard for me so far to get tempted by a new phone. And I do want to get tempted... Maybe will need a Mi 13 Ultra or a Pixel 8 to get me to upgrade (I tend to trust DXO and they haven't ranked the Mi 13 Pro very well. Seems the 11 Ultra still does a better job overall when it goes down to the camera)
So yeah if you find a good deal on one you won't be disappointed.
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Thank you for the reply that's why I am tempted to buy it especially since it's cheaper now than most snapdragon 8 gen 2 flagships with basically same specs but as I said my biggest concern is the phone dying within few months as many reported " summer can reach 45° in my area"

iBURGER said:
Thank you for the reply that's why I am tempted to buy it especially since it's cheaper now than most snapdragon 8 gen 2 flagships with basically same specs but as I said my biggest concern is the phone dying within few months as many reported " summer can reach 45° in my area"
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I live in Hong Kong, which is pretty hot in summer, and never really had heat related issues (That being, said I don't play games, so I don't hit much on the processor)
For sure if you buy it, you shouldn't pay more than half of a curent flagship price (The phone is 2 generations behind, it should really be cheap)

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I live in Hong Kong, which is pretty hot in summer, and never really had heat related issues (That being, said I don't play games, so I don't hit much on the processor)
For sure if you buy it, you shouldn't pay more than half of a curent flagship price (The phone is 2 generations behind, it should really be cheap)
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I can back you on this, I'm also in Hong Kong, Mi 11 Ultra with Global rom MIUI 13 for dinner time already, and i do game, Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact, Nikke. No heat problem and wifi issues. Great phone, especially at the current price point. Something to stand out from the all look the same phone lines out there.

I agree with all the feedback shared above. It is still a beast of a phone and runs multiple application parallely without any lag. Camera is great. If you are a AOSP fan, you have couple of good ROMs as well - PE+ and Project 404 roms.
Knock yourself out with a Mi 11 Ultra

I bought an used Mi 11 Ultra for 500 Euro a week ago and i rly like it ! I couldnt find a phone that i like more than this despite it being a 2 years old model.
It was with China ROM and 2 days ago i installed EliteRom free version (had to wait 1 week for bootloader to be unlocked). So far great experience.
I am planning to try some magisk modules i found here on the forum for underclocking for better battery life.

Hi guys can you give us info about battery performance with latest updates? Or comparisons with other phone you been using. Thanks

After a long time I try a Xiaomi device. As you can see on my posts or at my signature I use to own tons of devices. Pixels , Samsung's , and iPhones every year almost all of their flagships. Anyway I love the mi 11 ultra when released but it was way too expensive for a Chinese phone. I found one one month ago for around 300€ 256/12 white ceramic (CN version ) and give it a go . Phone is extremely snappy fast and reliable ( with Xiaomi eu Rom ) after few modification if I can say it with elite Rom and a few magisk modules like snapdragon 888 power efficient etc phone is great. Very good battery life I get easily around 7H sot with daily use ( no gaming but I use all social apps more than 7apps) phone never overheat like stock and I can say this is the fastest charging phone ever use. I can easily recommend this for a daily device in 2023. Special it the person who gonna buy it knows how to unlock bootloader and debloat this plus all the mods I mention above. Camera is also top notch that's why its still on top 15 phones of dxo ..I hope this helps cya

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After a long time I try a Xiaomi device. As you can see on my posts or at my signature I use to own tons of devices. Pixels , Samsung's , and iPhones every year almost all of their flagships. Anyway I love the mi 11 ultra when released but it was way too expensive for a Chinese phone. I found one one month ago for around 300€ 256/12 white ceramic (CN version ) and give it a go . Phone is extremely snappy fast and reliable ( with Xiaomi eu Rom ) after few modification if I can say it with elite Rom and a few magisk modules like snapdragon 888 power efficient etc phone is great. Very good battery life I get easily around 7H sot with daily use ( no gaming but I use all social apps more than 7apps) phone never overheat like stock and I can say this is the fastest charging phone ever use. I can easily recommend this for a daily device in 2023. Special it the person who gonna buy it knows how to unlock bootloader and debloat this plus all the mods I mention above. Camera is also top notch that's why its still on top 15 phones of dxo ..I hope this helps cya
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Could you mention any of the settings or steps you've done on that phone. I don't remember having a rooted cell phone. And I would like this equipment to last me several years, in addition to a screen duration of more than 4.5 hours that it is giving me
Thanks

Regioenleon said:
Could you mention any of the settings or steps you've done on that phone. I don't remember having a rooted cell phone. And I would like this equipment to last me several years, in addition to a screen duration of more than 4.5 hours that it is giving me
Thanks
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Well there is plenty of videos out there how to unlock and root a Xiaomi in 2023. After that it's easy to flash twrp and any Rom u want.. I prefer elite Rom cause it's miui based and give some extra options like 60/90/120 hz.. u can easily put the phone to FHD+ AND 90hz and get even more juice. Out of this battery. Feel free to ask anything u want .

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Well there is plenty of videos out there how to unlock and root a Xiaomi in 2023. After that it's easy to flash twrp and any Rom u want.. I prefer elite Rom cause it's miui based and give some extra options like 60/90/120 hz.. u can easily put the phone to FHD+ AND 90hz and get even more juice. Out of this battery. Feel free to ask anything u want .
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Well, I will follow the steps to root.
A question regarding that ROM, or the AOSP. Is it true that the MIUI camera doesn't work?
And yes, what I look for the most is battery performance

I don't try aosp but on this Rom miui camera is working great. . Follow the magisk modules as well I post on another thread I see u saw it .