What DAC does ASUS ROG Phone 2 have inside ? - ASUS ROG Phone II Questions & Answers

This is a question i really need answering as wired audio quality is very important to me and my Note 8 Exynos with the Cirrus Wolfson DAC sounds great and shows up as a separate dedicated DAC in USB Audio Player etc whereas the Mate 20 X doesn't and literally sounds like trash for wired audio quality, so does anyone know what DAC this has and if it shows up as a dedicated DAC with a decent audio player ? thx

drenco said:
This is a question i really need answering as wired audio quality is very important to me and my Note 8 Exynos with the Cirrus Wolfson DAC sounds great and shows up as a separate dedicated DAC in USB Audio Player etc whereas the Mate 20 X doesn't and literally sounds like trash for wired audio quality, so does anyone know what DAC this has and if it shows up as a dedicated DAC with a decent audio player ? thx
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I've got the Tencent 8gb/128gb model with the worldwide ROM. Tell me how to test it and I'll let you know.

bluegizmo83 said:
I've got the Tencent 8gb/128gb model with the worldwide ROM. Tell me how to test it and I'll let you know.
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Good question for me when i use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_GB it literally comes up with a message saying Hifi audio DAC detected or something like along those lines but this phone is rather new and may not be recognised or supported yet or maybe it is im not sure, also i can normally tell within 5 minutes if a phone has a True audiophile DAC in it or not.

drenco said:
Good question for me when i use this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_GB it literally comes up with a message saying Hifi audio DAC detected or something like along those lines but this phone is rather new and may not be recognised or supported yet or maybe it is im not sure, also i can normally tell within 5 minutes if a phone has a True audiophile DAC in it or not.
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Ah ok. That app is $7.99 so I can't really test with that right now. I'm no audiophile but I can definitely say this phone sounds way better than any other phone I've ever owned, with and without headphones. It has nice audio customization settings as well built in (6 band EQ for front facing speakers, 10 band EQ when using headphones, headphone profiles with lots of brands, custom listening profile that will test your hearing, etc)

bluegizmo83 said:
Ah ok. That app is $7.99 so I can't really test with that right now. I'm no audiophile but I can definitely say this phone sounds way better than any other phone I've ever owned, with and without headphones. It has nice audio customization settings as well built in (6 band EQ for front facing speakers, 10 band EQ when using headphones, headphone profiles with lots of brands, custom listening profile that will test your hearing, etc)
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Sure i understand if i can think of any other way ill get back to you Cheers.

drenco said:
Sure i understand if i can think of any other way ill get back to you Cheers.
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Don't know if any of this will help you (see screenshots), got it from an app call Device Info HW. It's calling the sound device an "sm8150tavilsndc"

bluegizmo83 said:
Don't know if any of this will help you (see screenshots), got it from an app call Device Info HW. It's calling the sound device an "sm8150tavilsndc"
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sm8150 is another name for the Snapdragon 855, i found this out recently when looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 6.

drenco said:
sm8150 is another name for the Snapdragon 855, i found this out recently when looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 6.
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I think this means rog phone 2 is using qualcomm's built in dac, and as of 2017, afaik, it's the wcd9 something.
Every qualcomm chip has a built in dac to it, it's just the phone manufacturer's choice if they want to configure it to take advantage of the dac. And i think asus, like other manufacturer's (vivo and xiaomi), chose to take advantage of it.

bluegizmo83 said:
Ah ok. That app is $7.99 so I can't really test with that right now. I'm no audiophile but I can definitely say this phone sounds way better than any other phone I've ever owned, with and without headphones. It has nice audio customization settings as well built in (6 band EQ for front facing speakers, 10 band EQ when using headphones, headphone profiles with lots of brands, custom listening profile that will test your hearing, etc)
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Try connecting your phone to a pc, make sure that adb drivers are installed. Then type this command in cmd:
Adb shell
su
cat /proc/asound/cards
or
adb shell
su
cat /proc/asound/card0
(Credits to @zenaufa for these commands)
Results should look like the one in the attached photo.

chuckRN said:
Try connecting your phone to a pc, make sure that adb drivers are installed. Then type this command in cmd:
Adb shell
su
cat /proc/asound/cards
or
adb shell
su
cat /proc/asound/card0
(Credits to @zenaufa for these commands)
Results should look like the one in the attached photo.
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Sadly that requires Root, which I haven't got around to doing yet.

bluegizmo83 said:
Sadly that requires Root, which I haven't got around to doing yet.
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That's sad. Anyway, if you ever decide to root you phone, don't forget to try this command.

bluegizmo83 said:
Ah ok. That app is $7.99 so I can't really test with that right now. I'm no audiophile but I can definitely say this phone sounds way better than any other phone I've ever owned, with and without headphones. It has nice audio customization settings as well built in (6 band EQ for front facing speakers, 10 band EQ when using headphones, headphone profiles with lots of brands, custom listening profile that will test your hearing, etc)
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I'm so glad I saw this comment. I had no idea sound profiles were a thing the phone had.
I had just given up using wired headphones because the quality was pretty bad, but this is a night and day difference.
Unfortunately, the profiles are all for older headphones (I use vmoda Crossfade 2s and bests studio 2.0s) but choosing the previous generation of each worked wonders

viper98 said:
I'm so glad I saw this comment. I had no idea sound profiles were a thing the phone had.
I had just given up using wired headphones because the quality was pretty bad, but this is a night and day difference.
Unfortunately, the profiles are all for older headphones (I use vmoda Crossfade 2s and bests studio 2.0s) but choosing the previous generation of each worked wonders
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Yeah my headphones weren't on the list either (over the ear style HyperX Cloud 2's) but the Listening Profile option that tests your hearing and makes adjustments based off the made a huge difference!

chuckRN said:
Try connecting your phone to a pc, make sure that adb drivers are installed. Then type this command in cmd:
Adb shell
su
cat /proc/asound/cards
or
adb shell
su
cat /proc/asound/card0
(Credits to @zenaufa for these commands)
Results should look like the one in the attached photo.
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This seems to be the result (rog2 tencent):

Related

Quality Headphones

Hello all,
I'm looking to buy a decent set of portable headphones for my NS...
Any suggestions ?
heroheto said:
Hello all,
I'm looking to buy a decent set of portable headphones for my NS...
Any suggestions ?
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What sort of price range are you looking in?
kenvan19 said:
What sort of price range are you looking in?
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To about the 60 quid, $100...
heroheto said:
To about the 60 quid, $100...
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I'd check out the Klipsch Image S4 or Image S4i (the only difference is the S4i has phone controls). I haven't used them myself yet but they're great from everything I've read and Klipsch makes fantastic products.
Thanks mate, will check them out.
heroheto said:
Thanks mate, will check them out.
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No problem. Also, in case you're not using it yet I'd jump over to one of the kernels that include the VooDoo sound drivers. They make a world of difference in listening to music on the phone (there is a link to Netarchy's kernel in my sig)
Using that already..
I have a rooted standard NS (2.3.2, GRH78C) with Netarchys awesome kernel.
I had to go back to 1.1 because 1.2 was crashing the phone at every boot.
Sound is superb even through the packaged headphones.
heroheto said:
Using that already..
I have a rooted standard NS (2.3.2, GRH78C) with Netarchys awesome kernel.
I had to go back to 1.1 because 1.2 was crashing the phone at every boot.
Sound is superb even through the packaged headphones.
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You'll notice a huge difference with better ones, trust me. I tested the sound improvements through the stock headphones as well as a few of my high end pairs and there is a monumental difference.
First track I listened to was The Dandy Warhols - Nietzsche.... blew me away.. thanks again
might seem crazy, but i bought the bose MIE2 mobile phone headset, and the sound quality is friggin superb. the inline button works for pause/play/ff for all the apps music player, google listen, etc. and they are so comfortable. totally worth it, but costs 130 dollars. best thing i did for my phone though
Am I the only person who cant hear any difference with or without the voodoo audio tweaks? I use Sony MDR EX 300 headphones and have done for a while.... (they are awesome imo)
The Jones said:
Am I the only person who cant hear any difference with or without the voodoo audio tweaks? I use Sony MDR EX 300 headphones and have done for a while.... (they are awesome imo)
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I've never been a fan of the sound reproduction of Sony headphones.
Here is a quote from a review of those headphones
The sound has all the traits of Sony in-ear earphones. It's no secret that average-quality dynamic transducers with an ill-designed resonance cavity don't make for mind-blowing performances.
The lack of balance is highly audible, with mediums and high frequencies that are well defined but a bass that's too strong and not very well contained. The overall definition suffers as a result and makes the sound feel a bit invasive.
Thankfully, they're much better than the kind of headphones typically supplied with portable music players, and this model is fine for anyone looking for a decent starter pair of in-ear headphones.
So long as you can find them sold at a decent price (the RRP is way too high) these headphones are a great model for anyone who wants to try out a pair of in-ear headphones. Look past the low-end packaging and a sound quality that could still be better, and these headphones have everything you need to get started.
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Also, to the OP just to add a few other options...I'd forgotten about this website:
Headphone.com $50-$100 search
Is there anyone using the Klipsch S4i with SNS? I'd like to know if all the play / pause / volume buttons work?
kenvan19 said:
I've never been a fan of the sound reproduction of Sony headphones.
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Interesting quote. Thanks. But I like them, so each to their own I suppose.
Still, I can't hear the difference when using the Voodoo audio tweaks and I seem to be alone in that.
suksit said:
Is there anyone using the Klipsch S4i with SNS? I'd like to know if all the play / pause / volume buttons work?
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I haven't used those specifically, but I have used a pair of Etymotic HF3s and a pair of iBeats or something like that (my wife's). Both have controls and only the controls on the Etymotic ones worked.
The Jones said:
Interesting quote. Thanks. But I like them, so each to their own I suppose.
Still, I can't hear the difference when using the Voodoo audio tweaks and I seem to be alone in that.
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I apologize, I hope you didn't take my post as an attack on your headphones, I was merely trying to inform as to a possible reason why the difference is not readily apparent. I can confirm that there is a difference and that the quality of the headphones being used does effect it (I've tested 4 pairs of headphones both with and without the tweak).
kenvan19 said:
I apologize, I hope you didn't take my post as an attack on your headphones, I was merely trying to inform as to a possible reason why the difference is not readily apparent. I can confirm that there is a difference and that the quality of the headphones being used does effect it (I've tested 4 pairs of headphones both with and without the tweak).
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No, its cool. I spent £30 on headphones - they are not going to be as good as a £100 pair! At the price at least, I stand by em! I will try it with my Sennheiser PXC-300's tomorrow and see if I can hear it.
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No, its cool. I spent £30 on headphones - they are not going to be as good as a £100 pair! At the price at least, I stand by em! I will try it with my Sennheiser PXC-300's tomorrow and see if I can hear it.
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Ooooo thats a nice pair. I know a lot of people who swear by them.
kenvan19 said:
Ooooo thats a nice pair. I know a lot of people who swear by them.
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Hehe, the warm feeling of approval
I just picked up a pair of audio technica ath-m50 headphones from eBay for $125. They are arguably the best headphones you can get for the money.
Sent from my Nexus S
I would not suggest buying headphones from eBay because of how many fakes there are.
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Logitech Boombox Speaker review

Here's a review I just finished for Logitech's Boombox Speakers for anyone looking for a set of bluetooth speakers for their Nexus 7
http://www.nexus7uk.com/logitech-wireless-boombox-review/
ooh i can use this as a stereo system in the bedroom and use N7 as a "remote".
wonder how much it costs in Canada...
my 2¢
Just to add on here
In the posted review he says the boom box has 8 drivers... it only has 4... two woofers and two tweeters mounted front facing
The remaining 4 are unpowered passive radiators that aid the woofers in achieving a bigger box sound.
Three very distinct volume levels:
Plugged in (max power... very loud)
Charged battery (less power... very noticeable difference)
Low battery (bummer unless your in a quiet room)
I've had this boom box for about a year now and it is the bomb... if you position it right ... on a bookshelf or boxed in area in a corner etc... the bass response is completely unbelievable for a device this size... I find I absolutely have to use an eq app to get the decent tweeter sound that I like or it sounds dull with the nexus 7 stock audio... the Volume+ app is the best for making the Logitech sound incredible.
We go to the park and there's a pavilion with a cooking area so I stick it up on the boxed in shelf area and I have a motorcycle sized sealed battery with an adapter to plug into the boom box for full 20 watts of volume... I CONSTANTLY have to prove to people that that little box is the only thing producing the sound... no hidden subwoofer... no secret speakers... it really is amazing in the right situations
Good review.
I lso have this speaker for months now which I use with my desire hd for music and my computer at times. One thing worth mentioning is when you use it to watch videos, there is a lag between the video and the sound. So thos is only good for listening to music umless if there is an app that can delay the video or sync the audio and video, but I havemt dound one yet.
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the above scenario is when I'm using bluetooth, but when connected via 3.5mm jack, it's ok...
nm8 said:
Good review.
I lso have this speaker for months now which I use with my desire hd for music and my computer at times. One thing worth mentioning is when you use it to watch videos, there is a lag between the video and the sound. So thos is only good for listening to music umless if there is an app that can delay the video or sync the audio and video, but I havemt dound one yet.
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Strange... I don't have that problem at all... and all I do is video on my 7... I don't even have any music files only music video
Seems synced up just fine on mine
b00mb00mchuck said:
Strange... I don't have that problem at all... and all I do is video on my 7... I don't even have any music files only music video
Seems synced up just fine on mine
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that's only when connected via bluetooth, but with 3.5mm jack, no sync issues.
are you connected via bluetooth?
nm8 said:
that's only when connected via bluetooth, but with 3.5mm jack, no sync issues.
are you connected via bluetooth?
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I use a different bluetooth speaker but I also saw the sound out of sync with the standard video player. When I swapped to MX Player pro the problem went away. You may want to try a couple of different video players to see if any solve the problem.
b00mb00mchuck said:
Just to add on here
In the posted review he says the boom box has 8 drivers... it only has 4... two woofers and two tweeters mounted front facing
The remaining 4 are unpowered passive radiators that aid the woofers in achieving a bigger box sound.
Three very distinct volume levels:
Plugged in (max power... very loud)
Charged battery (less power... very noticeable difference)
Low battery (bummer unless your in a quiet room)
I've had this boom box for about a year now and it is the bomb... if you position it right ... on a bookshelf or boxed in area in a corner etc... the bass response is completely unbelievable for a device this size... I find I absolutely have to use an eq app to get the decent tweeter sound I like or it sounds dull with the nexus 7 stock audio... the volume+ app is the best for making the Logitech sound incredible.
We go to the park and there's a pavilion with a cooking area so I stick it up on the boxed in shelf area and I have a motorcycle sized sealed battery with an adapter to plug into the boom box for full 20 watts of volume... I CONSTANTLY have to prove to people that that little box is the only thing producing the sound... no hidden subwoofer... no secret speakers... it really is amazing in the right situations
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b00mb00mchuck - Thankyou for the extra information, I will update my review,
Also i didn't mention but others have reported higher quality sounds connecting with the 3.5mm jack due to better bandwidth
mace242 said:
I use a different bluetooth speaker but I also saw the sound out of sync with the standard video player. When I swapped to MX Player pro the problem went away. You may want to try a couple of different video players to see if any solve the problem.
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Thanks, I have tried MXPlayer and there is still a bit of lag.
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Thanks, I have tried MXPlayer and there is still a bit of lag.
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That's what I'm using... MXPlayer and Bluetooth... no lag whatsoever
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adam448 said:
b00mb00mchuck - Thankyou for the extra information, I will update my review,
Also i didn't mention but others have reported higher quality sounds connecting with the 3.5mm jack due to better bandwidth
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That's true on the 3.5mm jack... but it kills the whole advantage of having that cool Bluetooth factor...
Nice to have the options on there to work it the way that satisfies the user... great product
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Also i didn't mention but others have reported higher quality sounds connecting with the 3.5mm jack due to better bandwidth
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Yes, the big criticism of BT music streaming is the sound quality, I understand these things aren't for audiophiles! What are your thoughts on the quality? Do you notice any artefacts / distortion that you wouldn't expect (I guess it depends on the quality of your digital source)?
I hooked my N7 up to my iPod dock which also allows BT streaming and have to say it sounded OK to me - but the dock is hardly anything special, just a hundred quid bog standard sound system and CDs don't sound all that (when compared to the HiFi).
I have purchased a BT to HiFi adapted (also by logitech) for the living room system so look forward to hearing what it sounds like through a 'proper' amp / speakers. Given that I'll be playing MP3s over BT I'm pretty confident it won't be CD quality, but I'm not too fussy! Mostly I'm playing kids music in the hope it keeps my toddle amused for 2 seconds or I'm playing streamed radio which has already gone round the houses in terms of compression so one doesn't expect HiFi quality.
Will report back on my own experiences when my new box of tricks turns up.
Nxtab
I think depends how used to listening to high quality music,
For myself, no problems other than what already posted in my review.
Maybe you can report back with how good the bt adapter was with your hi fi as I'm interested to know
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Bluetooth interrupt web radio
I have Logitech boombox for 2 days and it really is amazing, but on SGS3 they interrupt web radio
I have a Logitech "Mini Boombox" that works nice in the office. Hooks up via bluetooth to the Nexus 7.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Boom...8&qid=1353034414&sr=8-1&keywords=mini+boombox
I think I may be purchasing the boombox you reviewed as well. It sounds like a nice addition to my gadget collection.
The Logitech mini boom box is on offer at £40 from tesco direct in the UK.
Yeah just found that mate, Im going to invest in one of those!
Happy new year all!
adam448 said:
Yeah just found that mate, Im going to invest in one of those!
Happy new year all!
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Happy new year Adam hope you had a good one.
Like your nexus blog BTW
Jon
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I thought about this for a while too but I decided to get a bluetooth adapter for my existing sound receiver / speaker system and it sounds beautiful
jon1964 said:
The Logitech mini boom box is on offer at £40 from tesco direct in the UK.
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The mini one is awesome.
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Audio Quality on Nexus 6?

All I can say is the audio quality through the headphone jack, and speaker on the Note 4 is garbage! That does not make it a bad phone, because with all its other features, the Note 4 is awesome but for an avid audiophile like me, my phone needs a great DAC/ headphone jack. The iphone 6+ Does have fantastic audio quality, but I use android phones as my workhorse, and Ipad as my consumption device, so iPhone is out for me. I am REALLY hoping that since the Nexus 6 has the 2 front facing stereo speakers, that it is being pushed by a strong high quality DAC. I currently have the M8 , and the audio is quite nice, but I have always wanted a nexus device after owning the HTC Nexus 1 , and the Nexus 6 checks all the boxes for me personally. It just has to have great audio and battery life and I'm sold! Hopefully we can get some reviews of the big sexy nexus before pre ordering starts?
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
What headphones are you using?
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What headphones are you using?
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
Schoat333 said:
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
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Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
Edit: I am also hoping the N6 will have a powerful audio chip.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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How do you like the P7's? I bought the P5's years ago but admittedly they don't get much use. I have tried the P7's and while I'm not sure if their sound sig is for me, they were insanely comfortable.
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awareunlikeu said:
Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
feedtheducks said:
I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
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Yeah those UE900's are some mighty fine phones my friend! But yeah I just want superb audio out of the box without tweaking. I know I can get it if I go back to apple for a phone, but I use iPad, so to me having an iPhone with its boring software when I already have an iPad that I use for consumption/work just seems like unnecessary overkill. As I use Android as my workhorse/EDC device. I have the HTC One M8 right now, and its close to what I want, but I don't particularly care for the software, except Blinkfeed, and I loath the camera. Headphone audio is damn good only because it is the loudest phone on the market right now due to the DAC having to push the BoomSound speakers and also pushing that same power to the headphone jack. But louder is not always better. The iphone 6 Plus's audio quality is quite a bit better, but not as loud, or "punchy". I hope its not too much to expect excellent audio quality with the way Googs is going away from the decently priced cutting corners Nexus devices to the absolute best Android has to offer Android device, which is what the N6 is sounding like they are marketing it has.
istrikerx said:
If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
"The Nexus 6 comes with a pair of stereo speakers on the front, just like HTC’s phones. And just like the phones from Taiwan, Google’s phablet gives brilliant sound quality. Movies really draw you in with the combination of that huge screen and those crisp speakers And we could fill the whole house with music just with the Nexus 6
Source
awareunlikeu said:
V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I am a M-100 user as well, hell year brother!
As for audio quality, personally I never use something as spread out as a Cellphone/Smartphone for quality music listening. Most of the time they are not equipped with the proper magic for good audio compared to PMP's and other quality audio sources. That is why I still carry around a PMP for most of my music listening (Better HW for sound, Storage all for Music, Separate battery for Music).
I know it's almost archaic to still have a PMP and a SmartPhone since the latter can technically do both, but if you want the best audio quality it's best to get a PMP for your audiophile needs. I suggest taking a look for this if you are curious for a PMP recommendation: http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000060437344&MenuID=105026016
As for the N6, its up in the air. But I usually would not bet my wallet that it would make a quality music player. It might be good for some music here and there but as a whole with pro cans it just might not be enough to get the most out of them.
To me the original Moto X audio quality through headphones was great. I ordered a Nexus 5 trying to decide which one to keep and ended up sending the Nexus back. One of the reasons was the audio wasn't as good as the X. I HOPE the N6 will be just as good. Motorola hasn't let me down yet.
I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
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I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
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I am fairly sure FLAC files are supported by the current version of android. I just flashed a completely stock rom, no root on my N5 and I am able to play FLAC on it using Shuttle+.
Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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+1 for Poweramp
I'm curious how the front speqkers compare to my m8. I love the audio on this phone.
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There are 2 main improvement in android L for sound: low latency and usb-enabled headphones. I'm not an audiophile myself but I guess for startes those two should make a difference.
That being said, unfortunatly, headphones quality output is something hard to tell without specific reviews.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
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Funny you talk about Apple's "audio superiority" when their headphone jacks across iPad, PowerBook/MacBook, iPhone, and iPod lines have been poorly grounded for years.

Headphone Output Quality

I'm coming from a Oneplus One a much better phone for music than my poor old Galaxy S2. How does the Oneplus 3 do compared to its predecessor's? Is it loud, undistorted, have a good range in its built-in DAC for the 3.5mm Jack?
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I haven't got mine yet although from all the reviews i've seen they say the earphone quality is good
It sound really good in my opinion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
Yes, with sony headphone the quality is very good
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It sound really good in my optionion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
Loving the sound from my Xiaomi Mi Piston 3 on my Oneplus 3..!
It easily tops the quality and power of the Nexus 6. My completely stock OP3 sounds just as good and loud as my rooted N6 using Viper4Android.
Not bad at all, much better than my Nexus 5X.
Sound quality is good and I was a bit worried when I got mine. Coming from a Huawei P8, which I found to be great, I have been very happy with OP3.
I use Neutron player and after I took time to disable some features and enable others, I am very pleased. Output is loud and clear makes my earbuds boom nicely. Overall, no complaints at all. Speaker volume on the other hand... not as good as I'd like.
But, headphone, for me anyway, is most important.
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking
R3Lax1 said:
No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Mulayan said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
It has the generic Snapdragon converter. Nothing special but sound quality is decent through the h/phone out. When I had the phone I used it a couple of times with both Grado and Sennheiser cans. No real complaints, not amazing. Good enough imho.
We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
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I never said it's a phone. Do I?
The Wolfson is actually the DAC which is used in The Galaxy S and there was an App called Voodoo Controller by Supercurio which enabled really undistorted and clear output.
Wolfson DACs where also used in some BMW and Mercedes by the way...
Finally mines arrived been using it for a day listening with inateck Aries earphones and I'm very impressed good amount of bass and undistorted Highs. Using viper on oxygenos. Way better than my s2 and not massively better than my oneplus one.
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We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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So the sound quality is average as for the phone? So probably big difference compared to good quality mp3 player? I was thinking if zte axon 7 has really better sound quality or just dolby, useless for music 32bit. People say it's noticeably better, but just because it has more bass or whatever, or with dolby on when it can get only worse for music.
Maybe you or anyone else knows something about sound quality, has a good headphones to check it, has some comparison to good portable audio player or decent phone.
I'm not an audiophile but I can appreciate sound quality more than others, I'm using old Cowon j3 player and it sounds really well. Have also OPO which I'm using with Spotify, but can hear sound degradation over Cowon
When it's loud, or has a lot of bass or hurting ears high tones says nothing about sound quality. I would like to know how is the soundstage, if the instruments are separate, if they are heard well not mixed up with other sounds, if the sound is flat or not, you said the dynamic range is fine, that's good.
Do anyone know what sound chip is inside OP3?

No 3.5 Audio Jack in Next Iteration of Samsung Galaxy Line

Already rumors circulating that the 3.5 audio jack will be eliminated on the next iteration of Samsung Galaxy phones. That's too bad. Basically a deal breaker for me as I will not purchase any phone with a notch or missing a 3.5 audio jack, (and I would argue one with a quality DAC attached).
Looks like next time that I'm looking to replace my phone, it will be with a much cheaper Chinese phone and that I'll be using the money left towards a dedicated DAP from here on out.
Oh well...
It's idiotic to believe such rumours so early on when the don't even have a single reputable photo of the phone
they have said that since s6 and here we are
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It's idiotic to believe such rumours so early on when the don't even have a single reputable photo of the phone
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Well, when every other manufacturer except LG is doing it, I could imagine Samsung doing it, too. Also they already presented their AKG bluetooth lineup. It would make sense moneywise to kill the jack, so they can sell those better...
I hope not, if they stay with it, they'll get all the headphone jack people on their side. Even right now, I only switched to Samsung because they're the last remaining headphone jack phones with a community.
I'd love to go LG, but there are just no ROMs, kernels or other mods at all.
I dont use Jack 2 years now and im ok! Bt Headphones is more comfort to wear
Michuta said:
I dont use Jack 2 years now and im ok! Bt Headphones is more comfort to wear
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I connect my phone to various devices like my speakers in my kitchen or like a HIFI at friends. I use my phone with headphones but I connect it almost everyday to all sorts of speakers.
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I dont use Jack 2 years now and im ok! Bt Headphones is more comfort to wear
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Just because it's more comfortable to wear doesn't mean it's better in general.
Quality is worse, not just because of codecs, but also because there are actually no good wireless headphones out there.
Yes, I can convert my IEMs to wireless, but then I'm still stuck with just AptX, because there are no "wireless cable" options for LDAC / AptX-HD, except I'm gong with a bluetooth DAC - Which would be even less comfortable than the normal cable in the first place.
I don't even start how unstable LDAC and AptX-HD are.
Just because you find it ok, doesn't mean it's indeed ok to remove the headphone jacks. At least until we get a proper replacement tech where we don't sacrifice anything.

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